Re: [videoblogging] crappy-looking video

2005-08-20 Thread Jen Simmons




You want crappy looking video??
Then I recommend Soreson Video codec (export using Quicktime 
conversion in Final Cut + pick Soreson Video as the codec... or some 
similar thing in a different system). Use this codec, along with the 
other advice (like a low data rate) to get a super pixelated look. (It 
was the main codec used for the Quicktime 5 Player and stinks compared 
to Mpeg-4.) The best thing to do is a lot of trial and error. There's 
nothing like compressing and recompressing the same clip a couple of 
dozen times while taking lots of notes about all the different numbers 
you are using to get a real understanding of how compression works. It 
will only take 10-12 hours or so :-)

The best way to get crappy audio is to compress the audio at or below 
24 kHz -- the lower, the crappier. But you may really, really NOT want 
to make your audio crappy too.

So yeah, like Ryanne said -- what are you up to?

jen


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On Aug 18, 2005, at 11:19 PM, Adrian Miles wrote:

 around the 18/8/05 Philip Clark mentioned about [videoblogging]
 crappy-looking video that:
 I've tried a couple of them, but I thought I'd save some time and just
 ask, are there any of these formats which lend themselves more to
 crappy-looking video?

 set a low data rate, large pixel size, and have a lot of action. if
 it is still then you just can't do it without a lot of effort. Also
 qt pro will give more control, but you want to over ride presets so
 that you drop data rate, bump up frame rate, and resolution.
 -- 
 cheers
 Adrian Miles

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Re: [videoblogging] crappy-looking video

2005-08-18 Thread Andreas Haugstrup




On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:29:40 +0200, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Ideally, low quality would go hand-in-hand with a low file size;
 otherwise I'd just mess it up with some crazy pixelation/distortion
 effects.

Yeah. :o)

 So I go to QuickTime  Expert Settings, choose 8 frames/second,
 Quality: least, Data Rate: a very low number. Then there's a drop-down
 menu with a ton of different formats.

If you've got 3ivx, use it. It gives pretty crisp images at low quality. 
Otherwise:

Video codex: MPEG-4
Framerate: 6 for PAL, 5 or 10 for NTSC (Someone on this told me to scale 
down framerates in even fractions).
Daterate: Start with 5 KB/s - move up if it looks too crappy.

I've used 3ivx (instead of MPEG-4) with 6 frames per second and a datarate 
of 10KB/s before. It's pretty good. You can see what's going on fine. My 
video was 60x120 so YMMV. If there is a lot of movement (like Bre Pettis 
flailing his arms in the air) the low framerate is very noticeable, 
otherwise it doesn't matter.

I'll encourage anyone who pushes compression. I'm not a fan of this whole 
5 megs per minute is fine when 1.5 megs per minute is just fine. :o)

 I've tried a couple of them, but I thought I'd save some time and just
 ask, are there any of these formats which lend themselves more to
 crappy-looking video?

If you just want it to look crappy go with an old video codec. Cinepak 
with a low datarate should give you a pretty crappy video. :o)

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Re: [videoblogging] crappy-looking video

2005-08-18 Thread Adrian Miles




around the 18/8/05 Philip Clark mentioned about [videoblogging] 
crappy-looking video that:
I've tried a couple of them, but I thought I'd save some time and just
ask, are there any of these formats which lend themselves more to
crappy-looking video?

set a low data rate, large pixel size, and have a lot of action. if 
it is still then you just can't do it without a lot of effort. Also 
qt pro will give more control, but you want to over ride presets so 
that you drop data rate, bump up frame rate, and resolution.
-- 
cheers
Adrian Miles

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