Re: [videoblogging] what happens when cops are wrong
No pants story ... Sad, but funny You've got a group adding a few smiles to everyone's day. Then the police arrive and disrupt the subway, clog things up, and, generally exhibit disorderly conduct. ... the irony is overwhelming ... police spending their time in major metropolitan cities arresting people for writing with chalk on the side walk and walking around in boxer shorts ... tax dollars at work ... in contrast, this past weekend I was on a float trip on the Jacks Fork river in the Ozarks, camping in am isolated spot on the river in the middle of no where with friends, and a highway patrolmen shows up. It turns out that the highway patrolmen had hiked two miles from the nearest point where a car could get to, in order to let one of my friends know that his daughter had been in an accident. My friend and the highway patrol guy then canoed down stream to that same place and the highway patrolman gave him a ride to his car and arranged for the canoe to be picked up. This was really beyond the call of duty, something most anyone would gladly pay tax dollars for - and, when it happened I vowed I wouldn't spend all my time just talking about bad stuff cops do, so, anyway, there you have it. ... Richard On 4/9/07, JOHNNIE WARNER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..something I felt like sharing - kinda made me wanna say h. Its been plenty of times that have been shared over the web when people are mistreated or mishandled by the cops or other forms of authority. This youtube clip in particular just shows how backwards and corrupt some of OUR law enforcement agencies are and where their real priorities are. Although this may be comical in it s deliverance of the prank - i don't think it deserved the end result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7snbtwG5wcmode=relatedsearch= http://www.oneinthehand.blogspot.com The only Treo Training Video Cast in the World [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] what happens when cops are wrong
Richard, Thanks for that story. I come from a cop family, so it's always nice to hear people talk about good personal experiences, which often don't get talked about. Yes, there are bad eggs - which get the most attention - but there are a lot of good ones out there, too (and they outnumber the bad ones!). On 4/10/07, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No pants story ... Sad, but funny You've got a group adding a few smiles to everyone's day. Then the police arrive and disrupt the subway, clog things up, and, generally exhibit disorderly conduct. ... the irony is overwhelming ... police spending their time in major metropolitan cities arresting people for writing with chalk on the side walk and walking around in boxer shorts ... tax dollars at work ... in contrast, this past weekend I was on a float trip on the Jacks Fork river in the Ozarks, camping in am isolated spot on the river in the middle of no where with friends, and a highway patrolmen shows up. It turns out that the highway patrolmen had hiked two miles from the nearest point where a car could get to, in order to let one of my friends know that his daughter had been in an accident. My friend and the highway patrol guy then canoed down stream to that same place and the highway patrolman gave him a ride to his car and arranged for the canoe to be picked up. This was really beyond the call of duty, something most anyone would gladly pay tax dollars for - and, when it happened I vowed I wouldn't spend all my time just talking about bad stuff cops do, so, anyway, there you have it. ... Richard On 4/9/07, JOHNNIE WARNER [EMAIL PROTECTED]johnnie.warner%40gmail.com wrote: ..something I felt like sharing - kinda made me wanna say h. Its been plenty of times that have been shared over the web when people are mistreated or mishandled by the cops or other forms of authority. This youtube clip in particular just shows how backwards and corrupt some of OUR law enforcement agencies are and where their real priorities are. Although this may be comical in it s deliverance of the prank - i don't think it deserved the end result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7snbtwG5wcmode=relatedsearch= http://www.oneinthehand.blogspot.com The only Treo Training Video Cast in the World [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- joshpaul o: 818-237-5200 c: 818-667-0900 w: joshpaul.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] what happens when cops are wrong
That's amazing. What a guy. I was on a bit of a rant, because I feel that too often humanity, moderation and common sense is lost in bureaucracy, crowd behavior and politics. But you're right - well posted. I hope your friend's daughter is okay. On 10 Apr 2007, at 15:08, Richard (Show) Hall wrote: No pants story ... Sad, but funny You've got a group adding a few smiles to everyone's day. Then the police arrive and disrupt the subway, clog things up, and, generally exhibit disorderly conduct. ... the irony is overwhelming ... police spending their time in major metropolitan cities arresting people for writing with chalk on the side walk and walking around in boxer shorts ... tax dollars at work ... in contrast, this past weekend I was on a float trip on the Jacks Fork river in the Ozarks, camping in am isolated spot on the river in the middle of no where with friends, and a highway patrolmen shows up. It turns out that the highway patrolmen had hiked two miles from the nearest point where a car could get to, in order to let one of my friends know that his daughter had been in an accident. My friend and the highway patrol guy then canoed down stream to that same place and the highway patrolman gave him a ride to his car and arranged for the canoe to be picked up. This was really beyond the call of duty, something most anyone would gladly pay tax dollars for - and, when it happened I vowed I wouldn't spend all my time just talking about bad stuff cops do, so, anyway, there you have it. ... Richard On 4/9/07, JOHNNIE WARNER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..something I felt like sharing - kinda made me wanna say h. Its been plenty of times that have been shared over the web when people are mistreated or mishandled by the cops or other forms of authority. This youtube clip in particular just shows how backwards and corrupt some of OUR law enforcement agencies are and where their real priorities are. Although this may be comical in it s deliverance of the prank - i don't think it deserved the end result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7snbtwG5wcmode=relatedsearch= http://www.oneinthehand.blogspot.com The only Treo Training Video Cast in the World [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] what happens when cops are wrong
Hello Rupert, On 4/10/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles, I understand what you're saying, but if you think the police are just an impersonal physical manifestation of the law, and don't ever act in a way that overreaches what the law was designed for, i think you are wrong. I wasn't trying to say that. I agree with you that the people in the Police can act based on their own agenda. But I don't think that that is the case in that video. I think some people have a very romantic view of the Police. That they are knights in shinning armor. That they would rather fall on the sword themselves than do any harm. Things I've seen and things I've heard tell me none of that is true. (Actions speak louder than words.) My point is just to realize what the Police actually are. Police themselves (who are, as a community, a very political group - with a small p), their superiors and the lawmakers all have personal attitudes which influence how eager they are to pursue certain people or police and prosecute certain activities. the same law can be exploited more or less aggressively by people with different agendas. I only say this here because I'm worried about people with cameras. I see attitudes among police and lawmakers in the west that make me nervous. i was stopped 2 weeks ago by a policeman who told me to stop filming a roadblock at the end of my road on my phone 'because of terrorism'. this under the watchful eye of 3 lamppost-mounted council/police CCTV cameras. The UK is the most CCTVd nation in the world, with between 5 and 10 million cameras. each of us is filmed several hundred times a day, and now they are fitting the cameras with face recognition software and loudspeakers so that they can bark orders at us from the sky. yet we, the public, have to be more and more careful and surreptitious if we want to use a camera in public. in france, it's apparently illegal to film an act of violence now unless you are an accredited journalist (the authorities protecting themselves from rodney king style exposés). in america, they locked a videoblogger up for a year because he refused to give them his tape. which said more about their politics than about his, in my opinion. people are careless about their civil liberties, the authorities are pushing their envelope of control, and those of us with cameras are going to start seeing the effect of that more and more unless we can raise public consciousness in a sensible way. I share your worries. We're not actually disagreeing. My whole point was just to get people to realize what the Police actually are. See ya Rupert http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 10 Apr 2007, at 06:38, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello, The law is a means to an end. Not a holy document. If it's not illegal now... that can be fixed and made illegal very easily. Saying things like they are backwards or corrupt implies that they are NOT doing what they are suppose to be doing. Even in this case, the police are doing what their suppose to do. (The question that that statement begs is... WHO determines what they are suppose to be doing.) See ya On 4/9/07, JOHNNIE WARNER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..something I felt like sharing - kinda made me wanna say h. Its been plenty of times that have been shared over the web when people are mistreated or mishandled by the cops or other forms of authority. This youtube clip in particular just shows how backwards and corrupt some of OUR law enforcement agencies are and where their real priorities are. Although this may be comical in it s deliverance of the prank - i don't think it deserved the end result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7snbtwG5wcmode=relatedsearch= http://www.oneinthehand.blogspot.com The only Treo Training Video Cast in the World -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ ___ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/
Re: [videoblogging] what happens when cops are wrong
thanks Rupert ... for the record, my friend's daughter is ok ... she was bit by a dog and she's very young, but they did a skin graft and it appears it's going to turn out pretty well considering ... Richard On 4/10/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's amazing. What a guy. I was on a bit of a rant, because I feel that too often humanity, moderation and common sense is lost in bureaucracy, crowd behavior and politics. But you're right - well posted. I hope your friend's daughter is okay. On 10 Apr 2007, at 15:08, Richard (Show) Hall wrote: No pants story ... Sad, but funny You've got a group adding a few smiles to everyone's day. Then the police arrive and disrupt the subway, clog things up, and, generally exhibit disorderly conduct. ... the irony is overwhelming ... police spending their time in major metropolitan cities arresting people for writing with chalk on the side walk and walking around in boxer shorts ... tax dollars at work ... in contrast, this past weekend I was on a float trip on the Jacks Fork river in the Ozarks, camping in am isolated spot on the river in the middle of no where with friends, and a highway patrolmen shows up. It turns out that the highway patrolmen had hiked two miles from the nearest point where a car could get to, in order to let one of my friends know that his daughter had been in an accident. My friend and the highway patrol guy then canoed down stream to that same place and the highway patrolman gave him a ride to his car and arranged for the canoe to be picked up. This was really beyond the call of duty, something most anyone would gladly pay tax dollars for - and, when it happened I vowed I wouldn't spend all my time just talking about bad stuff cops do, so, anyway, there you have it. ... Richard On 4/9/07, JOHNNIE WARNER [EMAIL PROTECTED]johnnie.warner%40gmail.com wrote: ..something I felt like sharing - kinda made me wanna say h. Its been plenty of times that have been shared over the web when people are mistreated or mishandled by the cops or other forms of authority. This youtube clip in particular just shows how backwards and corrupt some of OUR law enforcement agencies are and where their real priorities are. Although this may be comical in it s deliverance of the prank - i don't think it deserved the end result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7snbtwG5wcmode=relatedsearch= http://www.oneinthehand.blogspot.com The only Treo Training Video Cast in the World [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] what happens when cops are wrong
Oh, sorry, Charles - I read it wrong. Glad I didn't get worked up about it, otherwise I'd now feel pretty dumb :) Rupert On 10 Apr 2007, at 20:02, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello Rupert, On 4/10/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles, I understand what you're saying, but if you think the police are just an impersonal physical manifestation of the law, and don't ever act in a way that overreaches what the law was designed for, i think you are wrong. I wasn't trying to say that. I agree with you that the people in the Police can act based on their own agenda. But I don't think that that is the case in that video. I think some people have a very romantic view of the Police. That they are knights in shinning armor. That they would rather fall on the sword themselves than do any harm. Things I've seen and things I've heard tell me none of that is true. (Actions speak louder than words.) My point is just to realize what the Police actually are. Police themselves (who are, as a community, a very political group - with a small p), their superiors and the lawmakers all have personal attitudes which influence how eager they are to pursue certain people or police and prosecute certain activities. the same law can be exploited more or less aggressively by people with different agendas. I only say this here because I'm worried about people with cameras. I see attitudes among police and lawmakers in the west that make me nervous. i was stopped 2 weeks ago by a policeman who told me to stop filming a roadblock at the end of my road on my phone 'because of terrorism'. this under the watchful eye of 3 lamppost-mounted council/police CCTV cameras. The UK is the most CCTVd nation in the world, with between 5 and 10 million cameras. each of us is filmed several hundred times a day, and now they are fitting the cameras with face recognition software and loudspeakers so that they can bark orders at us from the sky. yet we, the public, have to be more and more careful and surreptitious if we want to use a camera in public. in france, it's apparently illegal to film an act of violence now unless you are an accredited journalist (the authorities protecting themselves from rodney king style exposés). in america, they locked a videoblogger up for a year because he refused to give them his tape. which said more about their politics than about his, in my opinion. people are careless about their civil liberties, the authorities are pushing their envelope of control, and those of us with cameras are going to start seeing the effect of that more and more unless we can raise public consciousness in a sensible way. I share your worries. We're not actually disagreeing. My whole point was just to get people to realize what the Police actually are. See ya Rupert http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ On 10 Apr 2007, at 06:38, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello, The law is a means to an end. Not a holy document. If it's not illegal now... that can be fixed and made illegal very easily. Saying things like they are backwards or corrupt implies that they are NOT doing what they are suppose to be doing. Even in this case, the police are doing what their suppose to do. (The question that that statement begs is... WHO determines what they are suppose to be doing.) See ya On 4/9/07, JOHNNIE WARNER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..something I felt like sharing - kinda made me wanna say h. Its been plenty of times that have been shared over the web when people are mistreated or mishandled by the cops or other forms of authority. This youtube clip in particular just shows how backwards and corrupt some of OUR law enforcement agencies are and where their real priorities are. Although this may be comical in it s deliverance of the prank - i don't think it deserved the end result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7snbtwG5wcmode=relatedsearch= http://www.oneinthehand.blogspot.com The only Treo Training Video Cast in the World -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ __ Make Television http://maketelevision.com/ __ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] what happens when cops are wrong
..something I felt like sharing - kinda made me wanna say h. Its been plenty of times that have been shared over the web when people are mistreated or mishandled by the cops or other forms of authority. This youtube clip in particular just shows how backwards and corrupt some of OUR law enforcement agencies are and where their real priorities are. Although this may be comical in it s deliverance of the prank - i don't think it deserved the end result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7snbtwG5wcmode=relatedsearch= http://www.oneinthehand.blogspot.com The only Treo Training Video Cast in the World [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] what happens when cops are wrong
Hello, The law is a means to an end. Not a holy document. If it's not illegal now... that can be fixed and made illegal very easily. Saying things like they are backwards or corrupt implies that they are NOT doing what they are suppose to be doing. Even in this case, the police are doing what their suppose to do. (The question that that statement begs is... WHO determines what they are suppose to be doing.) See ya On 4/9/07, JOHNNIE WARNER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..something I felt like sharing - kinda made me wanna say h. Its been plenty of times that have been shared over the web when people are mistreated or mishandled by the cops or other forms of authority. This youtube clip in particular just shows how backwards and corrupt some of OUR law enforcement agencies are and where their real priorities are. Although this may be comical in it s deliverance of the prank - i don't think it deserved the end result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7snbtwG5wcmode=relatedsearch= http://www.oneinthehand.blogspot.com The only Treo Training Video Cast in the World -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.ca supercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ ___ Cars, Motorcycles, Trucks, and Racing... http://tirebiterz.com/
