Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros
Den 11.01.2007 kl. 02:05 skrev sull [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (order of the media:content element designate order of presentation) thats how i treated it in an experimental aggregator once.. trying to mimic some SMIL functionality using media RSS. but i didnt know that media:content was looked at for ordering of presentation... have you seen it used like this? Nope, I have never used an aggregator that supports media rss. I just know how it's *supposed* to work (ie. what's written in the spec). Conforming aggregators will handle playback this way. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/
RE: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros
Devices that follow the space elevator specification will get me through to the ionosophere within a week. Unfortunately none of them exist yet. :-) -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:12 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros Den 11.01.2007 kl. 02:05 skrev sull [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (order of the media:content element designate order of presentation) thats how i treated it in an experimental aggregator once.. trying to mimic some SMIL functionality using media RSS. but i didnt know that media:content was looked at for ordering of presentation... have you seen it used like this? Nope, I have never used an aggregator that supports media rss. I just know how it's *supposed* to work (ie. what's written in the spec). Conforming aggregators will handle playback this way. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros
Hah! Dude. You're hitting that prematurely. Sorry, but it's not a public feature yet, and it's a mistake that you saw it. But soon! -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Cammack Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:07 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros Blip's done it again! :D http://blip.tv/prefs/video_parts/ blockquoteYou can now use blip.tv to automatically insert intros and outros into your videos. You can use these intros and outros for your own branded content or for pre-roll or post-roll advertising that you sell yourself./blockquote Sweet! What'll they think of next? :D -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros
I have been WAITING for that forever, please make it live as soon as you can :) Peter On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hah! Dude. You're hitting that prematurely. Sorry, but it's not a public feature yet, and it's a mistake that you saw it. But soon! -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cammack Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:07 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros Blip's done it again! :D http://blip.tv/prefs/video_parts/ blockquoteYou can now use blip.tv to automatically insert intros and outros into your videos. You can use these intros and outros for your own branded content or for pre-roll or post-roll advertising that you sell yourself./blockquote Sweet! What'll they think of next? :D -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV Yahoo! Groups Links -- Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ my job: http://petervandijck.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros
Soon, soon, and my apologies for the sneak peak there :) We've still got some more testing and debugging to do before we can really release it to the public. Let me ask everyone a question about how we implement this feature, actually. In order to do this right we have to create copies of your original uploaded files which include your custom intros and outros. This means that we would no longer be displaying your original, unaltered, unchanged video file to the public. We would instead be displaying a version of your video file which includes our own modifications. How do we do this correctly, without upsetting people? One primary goal of ours is to always, always, always make your original video file available somewhere. It's very important to us. But how do that in a user-friendly way, and do we make it available in cross-posts? Do we only make the modified file available in cross-posts? How about cross-uploads to Archive.org? Yours, Mike -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Van Dijck Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:51 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros I have been WAITING for that forever, please make it live as soon as you can :) Peter On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hah! Dude. You're hitting that prematurely. Sorry, but it's not a public feature yet, and it's a mistake that you saw it. But soon! -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cammack Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:07 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros Blip's done it again! :D http://blip.tv/prefs/video_parts/ blockquoteYou can now use blip.tv to automatically insert intros and outros into your videos. You can use these intros and outros for your own branded content or for pre-roll or post-roll advertising that you sell yourself./blockquote Sweet! What'll they think of next? :D -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV Yahoo! Groups Links -- Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ my job: http://petervandijck.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros
why not just do it for flv/player? On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Soon, soon, and my apologies for the sneak peak there :) We've still got some more testing and debugging to do before we can really release it to the public. Let me ask everyone a question about how we implement this feature, actually. In order to do this right we have to create copies of your original uploaded files which include your custom intros and outros. This means that we would no longer be displaying your original, unaltered, unchanged video file to the public. We would instead be displaying a version of your video file which includes our own modifications. How do we do this correctly, without upsetting people? One primary goal of ours is to always, always, always make your original video file available somewhere. It's very important to us. But how do that in a user-friendly way, and do we make it available in cross-posts? Do we only make the modified file available in cross-posts? How about cross-uploads to Archive.org? Yours, Mike -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Dijck Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:51 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros I have been WAITING for that forever, please make it live as soon as you can :) Peter On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike%40blip.tv wrote: Hah! Dude. You're hitting that prematurely. Sorry, but it's not a public feature yet, and it's a mistake that you saw it. But soon! -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cammack Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:07 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros Blip's done it again! :D http://blip.tv/prefs/video_parts/ blockquoteYou can now use blip.tv to automatically insert intros and outros into your videos. You can use these intros and outros for your own branded content or for pre-roll or post-roll advertising that you sell yourself./blockquote Sweet! What'll they think of next? :D -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV Yahoo! Groups Links -- Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ my job: http://petervandijck.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros
Would that make people happy? Would people understand why their intros and outros were only in the videos people watch on the Web, and not in itunes or windows media center or tivo? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sull Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:19 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros why not just do it for flv/player? On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Soon, soon, and my apologies for the sneak peak there :) We've still got some more testing and debugging to do before we can really release it to the public. Let me ask everyone a question about how we implement this feature, actually. In order to do this right we have to create copies of your original uploaded files which include your custom intros and outros. This means that we would no longer be displaying your original, unaltered, unchanged video file to the public. We would instead be displaying a version of your video file which includes our own modifications. How do we do this correctly, without upsetting people? One primary goal of ours is to always, always, always make your original video file available somewhere. It's very important to us. But how do that in a user-friendly way, and do we make it available in cross-posts? Do we only make the modified file available in cross-posts? How about cross-uploads to Archive.org? Yours, Mike -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Dijck Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:51 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros I have been WAITING for that forever, please make it live as soon as you can :) Peter On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike%40blip.tv wrote: Hah! Dude. You're hitting that prematurely. Sorry, but it's not a public feature yet, and it's a mistake that you saw it. But soon! -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroup s.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cammack Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:07 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros Blip's done it again! :D http://blip.tv/prefs/video_parts/ blockquoteYou can now use blip.tv to automatically insert intros and outros into your videos. You can use these intros and outros for your own branded content or for pre-roll or post-roll advertising that you sell yourself./blockquote Sweet! What'll they think of next? :D -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV Yahoo! Groups Links -- Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ my job: http://petervandijck.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros
true. though i can watch flv with quicktime andnot needing the web. there are also countless windows based desktop flv players. but yeah, as far as ipods, tivos etc flash wont help here. what about this... have your feeds contain the seperate intros and outros wrapping the original video? that could be done with mediaRSS for instance. actually, that would require a modified player to look at media:content sequentially. But you could extend the blip namespace to handle this. but then this wouldnt help feedburner users... unless they also adopt these theoretical new blip namespace extensions. now that i have thought it through, and blip is able and willing to stitch together intros and outros with a video... and no quality degradation exists and you can change them whenever you want go for it. :-) sull On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would that make people happy? Would people understand why their intros and outros were only in the videos people watch on the Web, and not in itunes or windows media center or tivo? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sull Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:19 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros why not just do it for flv/player? On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike%40blip.tv wrote: Soon, soon, and my apologies for the sneak peak there :) We've still got some more testing and debugging to do before we can really release it to the public. Let me ask everyone a question about how we implement this feature, actually. In order to do this right we have to create copies of your original uploaded files which include your custom intros and outros. This means that we would no longer be displaying your original, unaltered, unchanged video file to the public. We would instead be displaying a version of your video file which includes our own modifications. How do we do this correctly, without upsetting people? One primary goal of ours is to always, always, always make your original video file available somewhere. It's very important to us. But how do that in a user-friendly way, and do we make it available in cross-posts? Do we only make the modified file available in cross-posts? How about cross-uploads to Archive.org? Yours, Mike -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Van Dijck Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:51 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros I have been WAITING for that forever, please make it live as soon as you can :) Peter On 1/10/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike%40blip.tvmike%40blip.tv wrote: Hah! Dude. You're hitting that prematurely. Sorry, but it's not a public feature yet, and it's a mistake that you saw it. But soon! -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroup s.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cammack Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:07 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros Blip's done it again! :D http://blip.tv/prefs/video_parts/ blockquoteYou can now use blip.tv to automatically insert intros and outros into your videos. You can use these intros and outros for your own branded content or for pre-roll or post-roll advertising that you sell yourself./blockquote Sweet! What'll they think of next? :D -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV Yahoo! Groups Links -- Find 1s of videoblogs and podcasts at http://mefeedia.com my blog: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/ my job: http://petervandijck.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com
Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros
Den 10.01.2007 kl. 23:57 skrev sull [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what about this... have your feeds contain the seperate intros and outros wrapping the original video? that could be done with mediaRSS for instance. actually, that would require a modified player to look at media:content sequentially. But you could extend the blip namespace to handle this. Presentation order is already a part of media rss (order of the media:content element designate order of presentation), but if you want a playlist I think you should use a real playlist format... -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/
Re: [videoblogging] Blip adds Intros Outros
(order of the media:content element designate order of presentation) thats how i treated it in an experimental aggregator once.. trying to mimic some SMIL functionality using media RSS. but i didnt know that media:content was looked at for ordering of presentation... have you seen it used like this? thanks, sull On 1/10/07, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Den 10.01.2007 kl. 23:57 skrev sull [EMAIL PROTECTED]sulleleven%40gmail.com : what about this... have your feeds contain the seperate intros and outros wrapping the original video? that could be done with mediaRSS for instance. actually, that would require a modified player to look at media:content sequentially. But you could extend the blip namespace to handle this. Presentation order is already a part of media rss (order of the media:content element designate order of presentation), but if you want a playlist I think you should use a real playlist format... -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
