Re: [videoblogging] Re: Support for the Jena 6
I don't get it. The silence from this group is deafening? You're accusing us of being hypocritical? Of hollow words to market another dotcom product or service? One email at 3.00, asking if any vloggers are nearby, then a link to a million-viewed Youtube video at 7.00, then you post at 8.00 all hostile. If your point is Why Didn't We Discuss This Before, then why didn't you bring it up before, instead of just sitting on your hands, silently getting angry about the deafening silence from this group? Personally, until Heath's post, which I read after reading yours, I didn't know anything about it - first news I heard of it in the UK was last night, and there was no mention of videoblogging or the web as a crucial part of the story. And you know what, I didn't find out from your unhelpfully toned and negative message. This isn't a rolling news discussion group. If you think something is worthy of discussion, bring it up. Don't sit silent and then accuse everyone else of being dishonest or hypocritical for doing the same. On 20 Sep 2007, at 20:00, Its A Mystery and So Im I wrote: This is a perfect example of the long tail in effect yet the silence from this group is deafening. It's funny how people talk about technology changing this and empowering the voiceless. I can remember folks saying the same thing in this group. Yet its just hollow words to market another dotcom product or service it seems. (Getting off my soapbox.) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure how many people here know about this but you all may want to check out the link here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070920/ap_on_re_us/school_fight In an era of shock racism or entertaiment racism, it's hard to believe that this didn't get more attention because it's REAL racism, no if's and's or but's about it. Any vloggers live near where this is happening? If so care to let us know what's happening on the street? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Support for the Jena 6
Waiting for a leader to arise is apathetic. If you believe in a cause why wait for a leader for that cause. Be that leader. Speak out. Make a video. I've only been on this list for about a month so I can't speak to its purpose. However, I don't look to this list to be the end all be all of things going on in the world. Yes, Jena 6 is injustice. No, no one was talking about it on this list. Does that mean we aren't dialogging about it elsewhere? No. . . . kenya allmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kenya.allmond.us vm/f 202.478.0490 To thine own self be true. - Original Message From: Its A Mystery and So Im I [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:06:27 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Support for the Jena 6 OK, with exception to folks outside the US this story was out there on the net, blogs, myspace, youtube. I heard about the Jena 6 story through Pacifica radio. For who those that don't know. That's the PBS(public broadcast station) of radio. t was like someone was t sleep at the wheel when this thing was making its round on the net. Yes this is not a virtual newsdesk group but it does relate to videoblogging in a indirect way. Local news broadcast from the area of the incident was posted blogs, myspace, youtube and so on. Is this group resting on its past laurels. Wasn't one of the many reasons we joined this list was to challenge the system to do things that the mainstream media wasn't capable of or motivated in doing. Has this group fallen off.(not literally) It's not about the technology it about the people behind and in front of the camera. I loved this group because it felt like we were pushing the envelope and using video in an innovative way. I can't blame this group for anything. It's just a reflection of the attitudes of the off-line world. There's much diversity. The issues is no different that you find in blogisphere and podcasting community. The only thing that left for me to feel excited for is the technology innovations. Outside that it has been ho hum discussion wise. I use to look forward to reading the discussions in group. It felt like a community of smart, caring people who wanted to use technology to shake things up. I guess I was just being a bit naive. Nobody cares about anything anymore. Have we become apathetic narcissist. I this might sound negative, buts it not. My heart is a bleeding just one that is sick of the ways things are. I have tried to believe in the goodness of people and thought would get better.(this is a general statement about the world as a whole) They haven't gotten any better of course unless you one of the privileged few. There no more Ghandi, Martin, Malcolm, Bobby, John John or Theodore. Where are our heroes for the 21st century. Will they emerge from a unlikely source like this group? ( --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't get it. The silence from this group is deafening? You're accusing us of being hypocritical? Of hollow words to market another dotcom product or service? One email at 3.00, asking if any vloggers are nearby, then a link to a million-viewed Youtube video at 7.00, then you post at 8.00 all hostile. If your point is Why Didn't We Discuss This Before, then why didn't you bring it up before, instead of just sitting on your hands, silently getting angry about the deafening silence from this group? Personally, until Heath's post, which I read after reading yours, I didn't know anything about it - first news I heard of it in the UK was last night, and there was no mention of videoblogging or the web as a crucial part of the story. And you know what, I didn't find out from your unhelpfully toned and negative message. This isn't a rolling news discussion group. If you think something is worthy of discussion, bring it up. Don't sit silent and then accuse everyone else of being dishonest or hypocritical for doing the same. On 20 Sep 2007, at 20:00, Its A Mystery and So Im I wrote: This is a perfect example of the long tail in effect yet the silence from this group is deafening. It's funny how people talk about technology changing this and empowering the voiceless. I can remember folks saying the same thing in this group. Yet its just hollow words to market another dotcom product or service it seems. (Getting off my soapbox.) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: Not sure how many people here know about this but you all may want to check out the link here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070920/ap_on_re_us/school_fight In an era of shock racism or entertaiment racism, it's hard to believe that this didn't get more attention because it's REAL racism, no if's and's or but's about it. Any vloggers live near where this is happening? If so care
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Support for the Jena 6
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Support for the Jena 6
I don't think this email list is marketing anything. ? This list - while we do at times go off on long and fervent tangents - isn't necessarily a recap of all the topics being discussed out there in the vlog-o-sphere. The youtube video is (as youtube videos often are) a good example of internet video giving power to the people, and just because this list isnt a flutter about a given topic doesn't mean that nobody is out there using video to get that message out. After all people can be champions of giving a voice to the voiceless even if they themselves don't speak up on every single issue worthy of a voice in every medium possible. Especially now that youtube is so big ... I don't know that is fair to try and judge if video is getting the word out about some given topic based on the actual discussion of that topic in this list - or even by videos published by the (now comparatively small number of) producers that do in fact frequent this list. Also ... I've been on a low information diet lately so I've fallen behind on the discussions here, but it seems to me alot of the stuff we used to talk about here has moved to places like twitter. Anyway ... I'm not saying the topic isn't deserving of alot of attention ... but I'm not sure content discussions in this list is a fair representation of how much attention its getting within the online video community ... and thus shouldn't condemn this list to be categorized as marketing fluff. (? for what exactly?) - Dave On 9/20/07, Its A Mystery and So Im I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a perfect example of the long tail in effect yet the silence from this group is deafening. It's funny how people talk about technology changing this and empowering the voiceless. I can remember folks saying the same thing in this group. Yet its just hollow words to market another dotcom product or service it seems. (Getting off my soapbox.) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure how many people here know about this but you all may want to check out the link here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070920/ap_on_re_us/school_fight In an era of shock racism or entertaiment racism, it's hard to believe that this didn't get more attention because it's REAL racism, no if's and's or but's about it. Any vloggers live near where this is happening? If so care to let us know what's happening on the street? Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
