Re: [videoblogging] Re: do video blogger care about privacy?
start with ... I watch Randy Mann videos :) ... Richard the odd ... On 8/25/07, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so I'm wondering what's odd about me oh where do i start On 8/24/07, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]deirdre.straughan%40gmail.com wrote: I've been very much myself online for 25 years, from text to video (I still mostly do text), and have sometimes been asked whether it feels weird to have complete strangers know so much about me. If it felt weird, I wouldn't do it. What I tell about myself online is not quite as open as it appears, but anything I'm hiding is mostly out of respect for others' privacy, not concerns about my own. Sometimes protecting others gets me into gray areas. I'm beginning to wonder: when are the stories of my life MY stories, free for me to tell, though other people are big parts of those stories? It's interesting to see that my daughter (now legally an adult) has followed this path of openness without my really discussing it with her explicitly. She's had one weird stalker incident (turned out to be a local teenager), but not much else to feel uncomfortable about in spite of being far more appetizing a target than I am. The return for my openness is that I've made a lot of friends (and so has Ross). I have usually been comfortable with blurring the lines between my online and offline worlds - as those who came to vlogEurope last year know, I had no qualms about inviting to stay in my house a bunch of people whom I knew mostly via their videos (which, ahem, I'd hardly even watched). (If all else failed, Andreas would beat them up for me, right? grin) BTW, while we're on the subject: I'll be in the Bay Area from Sept 5-15 and would love to see people! In San Francisco 5th evening through 8th am, then Silicon Valley for a conference (Storage Developers - not exciting to this group, but I am being paid to film it!), then back in SFO Sept 13-15, when I leave to return to Europe. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan living travelling in Italy (and other Countries Beginning with I) www.beginningwithi.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: do video blogger care about privacy?
so I'm wondering what's odd about me oh where do i start On 8/24/07, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been very much myself online for 25 years, from text to video (I still mostly do text), and have sometimes been asked whether it feels weird to have complete strangers know so much about me. If it felt weird, I wouldn't do it. What I tell about myself online is not quite as open as it appears, but anything I'm hiding is mostly out of respect for others' privacy, not concerns about my own. Sometimes protecting others gets me into gray areas. I'm beginning to wonder: when are the stories of my life MY stories, free for me to tell, though other people are big parts of those stories? It's interesting to see that my daughter (now legally an adult) has followed this path of openness without my really discussing it with her explicitly. She's had one weird stalker incident (turned out to be a local teenager), but not much else to feel uncomfortable about in spite of being far more appetizing a target than I am. The return for my openness is that I've made a lot of friends (and so has Ross). I have usually been comfortable with blurring the lines between my online and offline worlds - as those who came to vlogEurope last year know, I had no qualms about inviting to stay in my house a bunch of people whom I knew mostly via their videos (which, ahem, I'd hardly even watched). (If all else failed, Andreas would beat them up for me, right? grin) BTW, while we're on the subject: I'll be in the Bay Area from Sept 5-15 and would love to see people! In San Francisco 5th evening through 8th am, then Silicon Valley for a conference (Storage Developers - not exciting to this group, but I am being paid to film it!), then back in SFO Sept 13-15, when I leave to return to Europe. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan living travelling in Italy (and other Countries Beginning with I) www.beginningwithi.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: do video blogger care about privacy?
Hey dear Richard and Heath and everyone, Your posts really got to me in a visceral way. Great questions; ones that deserve an evening at a bar over ancient single malt. There WAS a HUGE long thread about this issue. http://tinyurl.com/yqvgmm Well, not that huge... Give me a call, Richard :) Note new phone # Fond / warm regards, Jan On 8/23/07, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an interesting question Richard. One I struggled with to be honest. At first I really didn't want people to know a lot about me. Part of the reason I adopted the persona of The Batman Geek was for that reason. Now to be honest part of the reason for the Batman Geek was one, I really do like Batman and two, I was trying to create a hook for my batman geek show. I had this silly notion that I could create a show and talk about geeky toy things and become a huge star. (no, I do not take drugs, although I can understand why some may think I do.) But a funny thing happened, I really started enjoying the very personal nature of videoblogging. And I started to get to know people and I became less worried about people finding out who I really am. Yes there are risks, and to be honest there is still a ton people DON'T know about me. As I am sure is the case with most. Maybe not on this list but I venture to guess that outside the list it is very true. What are the risks? employeers seeing me run in the street with scissors or talk about my depression and go. No, thanks Some stranger showing up at my house and cleaning me out. And so on and so on. But the other side is that I get to meet some really cool people and make real world connections that I otherwise would never have. I mean if I had met Jay, or Michael or Ryann or a few others on the street randomlyI would have been like no way but through vlogging I got to know the people and the people are pretty cool. Don't always have to like or agree, but hey I love my wife and we fight so Honestly now I wish I was not the batman geek I wish I was just Heath, because to be honest sometime I think people see batman geek and go, who the $%* is this guy? But I can't control that so, I just try to be myself and let the chips fall where they may. So do I care about privacy, sure I do, there are some things I keep to myself, like the thing with my family, although I did share a bit about my Dad, I took down the post a week later because well.it was personal and private and should stay that way for now. some conversations and dialogue are best suited face to face or with close friends, not everyone. But do I care you know I live in Cincinnati, that I like Batman, that I love to have conversation, that I believe in God, that I love my wife and kids and that I have some of the most amazing friends on the planet and that my world has been turned upside down the minute I fould freevlog on the web? Not at all... Heath http://batmangeek.com This post probably was all over and lord knows I am sure I misspled a lot of stuff but just speaking from my heart, so.. ;) --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disclosure: This post is part of my on-going attempt to relate my research, which is a big part of what I do for a living, with my passion (which is, of course is vlogging), so, if you answer this post, you will be influencing on-going discussions about my student's thesis project. Having said that, we're talking about this broad issue of privacy, and how, as you know, there are a lot of people who are afraid to put like anything on the web. And, of course, there are many frightening anecdotes going around (true and not) about privacy issues and the web. So, as we're discussing this fundamental issue, relating to the web, I'm wondering why I've never worried about this. Of course I plaster my own face all over my videos, and my wife's and even my children and grand children are in some of my videos, and I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to get my home address somewhere in my web sites etc ... so I'm wondering what's odd about me (with regard to lack of privacy concerns - not all the other odd stuff about me :) And I note that the culture on this list seems to be very open - for example, I often find cell phone numbers on some of the most active list participants on their sites, or even in email signatures ... as a group, it seems to me that we are very open in that way. I remember, in one video, Jay Dedman showing his new apartment, and commenting that the extra room was for anyone watching who needed an extra room when they were in New York I don't remember any very lengthy/serious thread in more than two years on the list where anyone discussed the issue of dangers associated with posting videos of yourself on the web. I had never given this much thought in the past, but as I think about
Re: [videoblogging] Re: do video blogger care about privacy?
I've been very much myself online for 25 years, from text to video (I still mostly do text), and have sometimes been asked whether it feels weird to have complete strangers know so much about me. If it felt weird, I wouldn't do it. What I tell about myself online is not quite as open as it appears, but anything I'm hiding is mostly out of respect for others' privacy, not concerns about my own. Sometimes protecting others gets me into gray areas. I'm beginning to wonder: when are the stories of my life MY stories, free for me to tell, though other people are big parts of those stories? It's interesting to see that my daughter (now legally an adult) has followed this path of openness without my really discussing it with her explicitly. She's had one weird stalker incident (turned out to be a local teenager), but not much else to feel uncomfortable about in spite of being far more appetizing a target than I am. The return for my openness is that I've made a lot of friends (and so has Ross). I have usually been comfortable with blurring the lines between my online and offline worlds - as those who came to vlogEurope last year know, I had no qualms about inviting to stay in my house a bunch of people whom I knew mostly via their videos (which, ahem, I'd hardly even watched). (If all else failed, Andreas would beat them up for me, right? grin) BTW, while we're on the subject: I'll be in the Bay Area from Sept 5-15 and would love to see people! In San Francisco 5th evening through 8th am, then Silicon Valley for a conference (Storage Developers - not exciting to this group, but I am being paid to film it!), then back in SFO Sept 13-15, when I leave to return to Europe. -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan living travelling in Italy (and other Countries Beginning with I) www.beginningwithi.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
