Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
http://blip.tv/file/441109 Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. Thanks Rupert! (now go friend me in facebook arelady, how long I gotta wait!? :P ) - Dave On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I downloaded one of your mp4s and changed the extension to 3gp and it plays fine. What that means, I don't know. Seeing as it worked for a while and then stopped, my first guess is that it's something Apple screwed up in the last Quicktime update - allowing QT to recognise a 3gp file with an mp4 extension. I do know that my Nokia records lower quality 160x120 video as 3gp and higher quality 320x240 640x480 as mp4. So maybe your phone is set to record at lower quality but is still outputting an mp4 extension. Can you rename the file extensions in your phone, or would you have to copy to PC first before emailing/uploading to Blip? What a drag. Rupert On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:56, David Meade wrote: well I have an unlimited data plan with cingular (now att) , and can record as much video as my SD card will allow. So far my mobile vlogs have all been via email. I record the video and then email it to my blip address ... it then automatically gets cross posted to my site. I've done one such video in avi format and several in mp4 ... unfortunately something has happened recently and QuickTime player is no longer playing MP4 videos recorded from my phone (Cingular 8125). If you go to http://www.davidmeade.com/tags/movlog/ you can see my mp4s which previously played inline just fine ... but now even though blip confirms the files are there ... quicktime player isn't playing them anymore. I dont really know whats going on with it, but I think the blip people are looking into it in case there's anything they can do in order to continue to play nice with HTC phones. Anyway, I would love to find a simple edit ability for windows mobile devices. (I also hope that the intro/outro feature at blip becomes a reality one day ... but thats another story :-) ) Thanks for the links I'll look them over! - Dave On 10/22/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Crazy. Thanks Jan! I hope to find a solution that will work right from the phone ... I wonder if I can rename the files right on the phone perhaps. I'll try to do some testing over lunch today. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com On 10/23/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blip.tv/file/441109 Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. Thanks Rupert! (now go friend me in facebook arelady, how long I gotta wait!? :P ) - Dave On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I downloaded one of your mp4s and changed the extension to 3gp and it plays fine. What that means, I don't know. Seeing as it worked for a while and then stopped, my first guess is that it's something Apple screwed up in the last Quicktime update - allowing QT to recognise a 3gp file with an mp4 extension. I do know that my Nokia records lower quality 160x120 video as 3gp and higher quality 320x240 640x480 as mp4. So maybe your phone is set to record at lower quality but is still outputting an mp4 extension. Can you rename the file extensions in your phone, or would you have to copy to PC first before emailing/uploading to Blip? What a drag. Rupert On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:56, David Meade wrote: well I have an unlimited data plan with cingular (now att) , and can record as much video as my SD card will allow. So far my mobile vlogs have all been via email. I record the video and then email it to my blip address ... it then automatically gets cross posted to my site. I've done one such video in avi format and several in mp4 ... unfortunately something has happened recently and QuickTime player is no longer playing MP4 videos recorded from my phone (Cingular 8125). If you go to http://www.davidmeade.com/tags/movlog/ you can see my mp4s which previously played inline just fine ... but now even though blip confirms the files are there ... quicktime player isn't playing them anymore. I dont really know whats going on with it, but I think the blip people are looking into it in case there's anything they can do in order to continue to play nice with HTC phones. Anyway, I would love to find a simple edit ability for windows mobile devices. (I also hope that the intro/outro feature at blip becomes a reality one day ... but thats another story :-) ) Thanks for the links I'll look them over! - Dave On 10/22/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Hi everyone: On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pat, I still advise caution on that interpretation of the market. My own interpretation of mobile companies offering video services is that they are selling their own content from their own portals. That's how it is in the UK, anyway - most video consumed on phones is P*rn/Soft P*rn Sport Comedy clips sold through the provider's channels. Access to third party podcasting is not highlighted, nor is it very easy and it's only sought out by the truly dedicated. And since nobody even on this list of early adopters has ever said they do it, except as an experiment (Steve G), I stand by my thoughts. As for embedding watchable video on a web page for viewing on a mobile device... you can see how the magnificent http://wreckandsalvage.com do it - I wonder if they have many mobile views. But if we *don't* start going after cell phone users and their phones, we'll be handing them over to the telcos and their HOMOGENIZED content. That's what I (And I think David as well, though of course I'll let him speak for himself :) ) am trying to prevent. Btw, you saw this thread as encouraging - it isn't. It isn't about David trying to appeal to cell phone video viewers, it's about him trying to send video shot on his phone to his blog for viewing regularly on the web or via RSS. And the thread I started is somewhat similar, only I'm not sending video shots over my phone. David I just happened to post around the same time. AnyhowBack to the subject at hand :D Cheers, -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
well I have an unlimited data plan with cingular (now att) , and can record as much video as my SD card will allow.So far my mobile vlogs have all been via email. I record the video and then email it to my blip address ... it then automatically gets cross posted to my site. I've done one such video in avi format and several in mp4 ... unfortunately something has happened recently and QuickTime player is no longer playing MP4 videos recorded from my phone (Cingular 8125). If you go to http://www.davidmeade.com/tags/movlog/ you can see my mp4s which previously played inline just fine ... but now even though blip confirms the files are there ... quicktime player isn't playing them anymore. I dont really know whats going on with it, but I think the blip people are looking into it in case there's anything they can do in order to continue to play nice with HTC phones. Anyway, I would love to find a simple edit ability for windows mobile devices. (I also hope that the intro/outro feature at blip becomes a reality one day ... but thats another story :-) ) Thanks for the links I'll look them over! - Dave On 10/22/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
So I downloaded one of your mp4s and changed the extension to 3gp and it plays fine. What that means, I don't know. Seeing as it worked for a while and then stopped, my first guess is that it's something Apple screwed up in the last Quicktime update - allowing QT to recognise a 3gp file with an mp4 extension. I do know that my Nokia records lower quality 160x120 video as 3gp and higher quality 320x240 640x480 as mp4. So maybe your phone is set to record at lower quality but is still outputting an mp4 extension. Can you rename the file extensions in your phone, or would you have to copy to PC first before emailing/uploading to Blip? What a drag. Rupert On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:56, David Meade wrote: well I have an unlimited data plan with cingular (now att) , and can record as much video as my SD card will allow. So far my mobile vlogs have all been via email. I record the video and then email it to my blip address ... it then automatically gets cross posted to my site. I've done one such video in avi format and several in mp4 ... unfortunately something has happened recently and QuickTime player is no longer playing MP4 videos recorded from my phone (Cingular 8125). If you go to http://www.davidmeade.com/tags/movlog/ you can see my mp4s which previously played inline just fine ... but now even though blip confirms the files are there ... quicktime player isn't playing them anymore. I dont really know whats going on with it, but I think the blip people are looking into it in case there's anything they can do in order to continue to play nice with HTC phones. Anyway, I would love to find a simple edit ability for windows mobile devices. (I also hope that the intro/outro feature at blip becomes a reality one day ... but thats another story :-) ) Thanks for the links I'll look them over! - Dave On 10/22/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. Thanks Rupert! (now go friend me in facebook arelady, how long I gotta wait!? :P ) - Dave On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I downloaded one of your mp4s and changed the extension to 3gp and it plays fine. What that means, I don't know. Seeing as it worked for a while and then stopped, my first guess is that it's something Apple screwed up in the last Quicktime update - allowing QT to recognise a 3gp file with an mp4 extension. I do know that my Nokia records lower quality 160x120 video as 3gp and higher quality 320x240 640x480 as mp4. So maybe your phone is set to record at lower quality but is still outputting an mp4 extension. Can you rename the file extensions in your phone, or would you have to copy to PC first before emailing/uploading to Blip? What a drag. Rupert On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:56, David Meade wrote: well I have an unlimited data plan with cingular (now att) , and can record as much video as my SD card will allow. So far my mobile vlogs have all been via email. I record the video and then email it to my blip address ... it then automatically gets cross posted to my site. I've done one such video in avi format and several in mp4 ... unfortunately something has happened recently and QuickTime player is no longer playing MP4 videos recorded from my phone (Cingular 8125). If you go to http://www.davidmeade.com/tags/movlog/ you can see my mp4s which previously played inline just fine ... but now even though blip confirms the files are there ... quicktime player isn't playing them anymore. I dont really know whats going on with it, but I think the blip people are looking into it in case there's anything they can do in order to continue to play nice with HTC phones. Anyway, I would love to find a simple edit ability for windows mobile devices. (I also hope that the intro/outro feature at blip becomes a reality one day ... but thats another story :-) ) Thanks for the links I'll look them over! - Dave On 10/22/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com
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Oh, God, I haven't used Facebook for ages. Except to watch those videos that Heath made, and only then because he tagged me and I got sent a message about that. It's got to the point where I'm scared to open it to read all the messages and friend requests and hear how many people have bitten and poked and infected me. Jesus - Facebook has become like my bank statements. How did that happen? On 22 Oct 2007, at 23:10, David Meade wrote: Thanks Rupert! (now go friend me in facebook arelady, how long I gotta wait!? :P ) - Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] pocketPC video editor?
Hi everyone: On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. I don't think this will work. I'm trying to figure out a way to encode videos for cell phones without having to upload like a hundred instances of THE SAME video every time I make a video on my desktop PC, but I don't think doing THIS will work regardless of the type of PC. So far, all I've found is some software that encode for some phones, but not others while other software will encode will only encode for only a scant (A *very small* scant at that) handful of phones and that's it. Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/
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Hey Pat, Yeah, the unfortunate truth of video codecs is that you can't make something for everyone. Flash seems like the perfect Mac/Windows solution, since nearly all computers have Flash player, or can download it quickly. But Flash doesn't work on phones. Or at least, Flash 8 9 won't work on my video phone. Gah. Flash 7 Youtube videos will, though. But now they're being converted to H264, which won't. The one format that does seem to be accepted by almost all phones that play video is 3gp. But at what resolution? 160x120 or thereabouts, I think. Tiny. If you get VisualHub, and get it to pump out multiple versions of your file, and upload all those files to Blip, and then get Blip to crosspost to your blog, you'll get a nice post with all your file formats linked to. MP4, WMV, 3GP, FLV. Then, if you publish with Wordpress, you can use something like the nice plugin that the ShowInABox.tv guys have made, to create format- specific feeds. So it'll be possible for you to 'easily' offer podcasting in different formats. But I have to ask, how many people will actually watch on a phone? Like Jan, I make videos using my phone - a Nokia N93, which has serious video capabilities - but I've never ever watched or subscribed to anybody else's video on it. And I'm someone who's very into watching web video. So is it worth the effort? I guess you won't know until you try. Rupert http://twittervlog.tv/ On 23 Oct 2007, at 00:03, Patrick Cook wrote: Hi everyone: On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. I don't think this will work. I'm trying to figure out a way to encode videos for cell phones without having to upload like a hundred instances of THE SAME video every time I make a video on my desktop PC, but I don't think doing THIS will work regardless of the type of PC. So far, all I've found is some software that encode for some phones, but not others while other software will encode will only encode for only a scant (A *very small* scant at that) handful of phones and that's it. Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yeah. I had same probs with mp4 files not playing. Anywhere. Used the 'change the extension to 3gp' which worked fine. Problem with 8525 pocket pc mp4 shooting is that the files are too large to MMS to Blip, so I've got to get 'em to the MacBook, change the extension, edit, then upload. Have reverted to shooting in the smaller 3gp files for immediate upload gratification. How do you get your phone to shoot in avi? Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. Thanks Rupert! (now go friend me in facebook arelady, how long I gotta wait!? :P ) - Dave On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I downloaded one of your mp4s and changed the extension to 3gp and it plays fine. What that means, I don't know. Seeing as it worked for a while and then stopped, my first guess is that it's something Apple screwed up in the last Quicktime update - allowing QT to recognise a 3gp file with an mp4 extension. I do know that my Nokia records lower quality 160x120 video as 3gp and higher quality 320x240 640x480 as mp4. So maybe your phone is set to record at lower quality but is still outputting an mp4 extension. Can you rename the file extensions in your phone, or would you have to copy to PC first before emailing/uploading to Blip? What a drag. Rupert On 22 Oct 2007, at 21:56, David Meade wrote: well I have an unlimited data plan with cingular (now att) , and can record as much video as my SD card will allow. So far my mobile vlogs have all been via email. I record the video and then email it to my blip address ... it then automatically gets cross posted to my site. I've done one such video in avi format and several in mp4 ... unfortunately something has happened recently and QuickTime player is no longer playing MP4 videos recorded from my phone (Cingular 8125). If you go to http://www.davidmeade.com/tags/movlog/ you can see my mp4s which previously played inline just fine ... but now even though blip confirms the files are there ... quicktime player isn't playing them anymore. I dont really know whats going on with it, but I think the blip people are looking into it in case there's anything they can do in order to continue to play nice with HTC phones. Anyway, I would love to find a simple edit ability for windows mobile devices. (I also hope that the intro/outro feature at blip becomes a reality one day ... but thats another story :-) ) Thanks for the links I'll look them over! - Dave On 10/22/07, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hadn't thought about that David, but it might be nice...especially to cut out the last 2-3 frames when filming 'small' video in 3gp (my pocket pc films in either 3gp or mp4, 'large'). Here are my collected 8525 links though - FYI - http://del.icio.us/love_detective/8525 Will let you know if I find anything in my web travels. Curious: Do you have a maximum MMS upload size attached to your account? If not, who are you using and what kind of plan do you have? Warmly, Jan On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Does anyone know of a Windows Mobile application that allows for trimming and combining of video clips? I just cannot find such an app but find it hard to believe that not even one crappy option exists. My windows mobile phone takes video (avi or mp4) and I want to be able to trim the clips and then re-order/combine them together into one longer clip before I upload to blip (or wherever). Thanks, - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.DavidMeade.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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My guess is the most universal cell phone format for download is 3gp. Send me your phone # off list and we can try. Jan On 10/22/07, Patrick Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone: On 10/22/07, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm thats odd ... 3gp is a type of mp4 as I understand it .. but still ... that odd. :-P I don't think I can change the extension, but I can choose to save as avi instead of mp4 ... I'll do some testing ... given your discovery, I bet they probably are using the same codec inside the avi container and thus I probably wouldnt be sacrificing anything by using avi. I'll test that to be sure. I don't think this will work. I'm trying to figure out a way to encode videos for cell phones without having to upload like a hundred instances of THE SAME video every time I make a video on my desktop PC, but I don't think doing THIS will work regardless of the type of PC. So far, all I've found is some software that encode for some phones, but not others while other software will encode will only encode for only a scant (A *very small* scant at that) handful of phones and that's it. Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/WburgtvFallFilmFest - Fall Film Fest http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi everyone: On 10/22/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Pat, [Snip] The one format that does seem to be accepted by almost all phones that play video is 3gp. But at what resolution? 160x120 or thereabouts, I think. Tiny. Interestingly enough, I've found from the software I've downloaded and used that 176 x 144 is believed (Keyword is BELIEVED) to be the defacto standard for cell phones, though the preview seems to vary from phone to phone (One of the pieces of software I downloaded gives a preview as to how the video would likely look in a given phone). But I have to ask, how many people will actually watch on a phone? I think that with Sprint Verizon already offering video services, it's quite obvious that there's a market for people who'll watch video on their phone. And I'm someone who's very into watching web video. So is it worth the effort? I guess you won't know until you try. Well not to hijack the thread here, but it appears as though I'm not the only one interested in trying to appeal to cell phone video viewers. But in case I'm not successful, it won't be for lack of trying. :D Cheers :D -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - **NEW VLOG** AS MY WORLD TURNS - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcst) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/
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Hi Pat, I still advise caution on that interpretation of the market. My own interpretation of mobile companies offering video services is that they are selling their own content from their own portals. That's how it is in the UK, anyway - most video consumed on phones is P*rn/Soft P*rn Sport Comedy clips sold through the provider's channels. Access to third party podcasting is not highlighted, nor is it very easy and it's only sought out by the truly dedicated. And since nobody even on this list of early adopters has ever said they do it, except as an experiment (Steve G), I stand by my thoughts. As for embedding watchable video on a web page for viewing on a mobile device... you can see how the magnificent http://wreckandsalvage.com do it - I wonder if they have many mobile views. Btw, you saw this thread as encouraging - it isn't. It isn't about David trying to appeal to cell phone video viewers, it's about him trying to send video shot on his phone to his blog for viewing regularly on the web or via RSS. I watch videos on my iPod occasionally on the London underground. I am the only person I've ever seen doing that, even given the massive sales of video ipods - they launched 2 years ago this week. And I've never seen or heard of anybody watching video on their mobile phone. And a good number of people I know have video enabled phones, now, because the call packages are cheap. Cheers, Rupert On 23 Oct 2007, at 03:06, Patrick Cook wrote: I think that with Sprint Verizon already offering video services, it's quite obvious that there's a market for people who'll watch video on their phone. ...not to hijack the thread here, but it appears as though I'm not the only one interested in trying to appeal to cell phone video viewers. But in case I'm not successful, it won't be for lack of trying. :D And I'm someone who's very into watching web video. So is it worth the effort? I guess you won't know until you try. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
