Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread WWWhatsup



Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including
DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed
specifically for them to verify my ownership. 

iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.

joly

At 04:41 PM 4/19/2006, you wrote:
http://www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2006/04/18/controversial_video_hosting_company_veoh_raises_125m.htmlhttp://www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2006/04/18/controversial_video_hosting_company_veoh_raises_125m.html

He said Veoh from the beginning had wanted to upload only content from RSS feeds which users had explicitly submitted to Veoh. He said Veoh had required publishers submitting feeds to insert a specific snippet of code verifying they were owners of the feed. However, he said Veoh's process was bugged, and wasn't identifying which content was owned by the submitters and which wasn't. As a result, when outsiders submitted copyrighted content, Veoh ended up uploading it when it shouldn't have. He said he has since nuked all content that hasn't been adequately submitted.

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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Michael Verdi



On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services includingDTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feedspecifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.
The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread WWWhatsup



Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.

Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcoding 
for transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.

joly


On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including
DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed
specifically for them to verify my ownership.

iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like. 


The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute. 

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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Michael Sullivan



Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes. God forbid people speak out against precious Apple.At least people... humans... speak to us here from Veoh. Christ, the CEO responded!
When has anyone from Apple contributed to the conversation of videoblogging?sullOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.
jolyOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including
DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feedspecifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.
The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Michael Verdi



On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Not sure where you've been for the last two weeks but, Veoh had sucked up a zillion RSS feeds and transcoded videos to flash. Then they were hosting them and displaying them on their site with no attribution and under thier own license.
Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcoding
for transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.Apple does many things wrong but they're certainly not doing what Veoh was doing. If you search for me on the iTunes music store you will see a link to my videoblog (it says website with a little arrow next to it). Also the transcoding happens on your own computer. Apple isn't serving up any of my videos.
It's a huge difference.-VerdijolyOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services includingDTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed
specifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Josh Leo



they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.
jolyOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including
DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feedspecifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.
The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Devlon



On 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



but the full thing is distributed from Veoh's servers/network and the creator does not receive any statistics for that.Trust me, I wasn't defending them Josh. This is a good point, one that doesn't get brought up. 
-josh
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they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their player. Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after jumping through their hoops.


On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.
jolyOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including
DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feedspecifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.



The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

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On 4/20/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Which means Veoh got membership sign-ups from people signing up to view
preview-only videos that shouldn't have been hacked up. Membership
sign-ups are a currency in the Internet. Using non-permitted works like
that = very not cool.Especially when that currency (I am sure of it) had something to do with funding.

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they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You
are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their
player. Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Michael Sullivan



I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.I just cannot swallow an argument that puts P2P technology for independent media makers as being less significant than download statistics, especially when that P2P platform is also building a model to compensate media makers... financially and by giving them reach/exposure.
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but the full thing is distributed from Veoh's servers/network and the creator does not receive any statistics for that.-josh
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On 4/20/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their player. Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after jumping through their hoops.


On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup 
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Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.
jolyOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feedspecifically for them to verify my ownership.iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.



The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread WWWhatsup





FLV previews of content is a recent development, prompted by the YouTube envy, no doubt,
 not entirely thought out before introduction, I'll give you that. I myself would have preferred
full flv previews, given the option.

But the actual Veoh distro does no transcoding.

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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Deirdre Straughan



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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Joshua Kinberg



I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content.
If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics.


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I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.

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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Steve Garfield



Go look at 'my' profile:

http://veoh.com/users/steve

;-)

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Wow, you should shave Steve.On 4/20/06, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Go look at 'my' profile:

http://veoh.com/users/steve

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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Michael Sullivan



but now veoh works differently. so whatever.and... their is no law about screwing up someones server stats.whats more important, making media and distributing it or reading your stats for novelty?the message or the metric? 
sullOn 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content.
If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics.


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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Anne Walk



hey sull!this is the internet. the metric is the message!(joke)On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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but now veoh works differently. so whatever.and... their is no law about screwing up someones server stats.whats more important, making media and distributing it or reading your stats for novelty?the message or the metric? 
sullOn 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg 
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I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content.
If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics.


-josh
On 4/20/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.

It does. If you go to http://veoh.com/users/deirdre you can see my profile, click on View All above the videos to see all my videos with their individual stats, rate them, etc.  

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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with interesting statements from the company

2006-04-20 Thread Michael Sullivan



sure seems that way.. ha. thank god for messages like Robert's! What a great reminder to the power of this medium.. that is underused.i'm such a monkey in the middle, ain't i? sull
On 4/20/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



hey sull!this is the internet. the metric is the message!(joke)On 4/20/06, 
Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


but now veoh works differently. so whatever.and... their is no law about screwing up someones server stats.whats more important, making media and distributing it or reading your stats for novelty?the message or the metric? 
sullOn 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg 

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I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content.
If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics.


-josh
On 4/20/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.

It does. If you go to http://veoh.com/users/deirdre you can see my profile, click on View All above the videos to see all my videos with their individual stats, rate them, etc.  

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