Re: [Videolib] What Am I Doing Wrong?
Though this wasn't my question, I just must say, the knowledge on this list is awesome! --Sharon Johnson Sent from my iPad On May 8, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Brigid Duffy bdu...@sfsu.edumailto:bdu...@sfsu.edu wrote: People of the Wind DVD 1976 1 hr., 50 min. In 1923 filmmakers Merian C. Cooper and Ernest B. Schoedsack recorded the arduous migration of the Bhaktiari people across the Zagros Mountains of western Iran in Grass: A Nation's Battle for Life . Fifty years later filmmaker Anthony Howarth traveled with the Babadi, part of the Bhaktiari people, across the same mountains. As this documentary shows, though some technology has changed, the human struggle remains much the same. DVD Empire for $20.93 plus shipping, amazon.comhttp://amazon.com for $26.99 and many other online retailers. Brigid Duffy Academic Technology San Francisco State University San Francisco, CA 94132-4200 E-mail: mailto:bdu...@sfsu.edu bdu...@sfsu.edumailto:bdu...@sfsu.edu On May 8, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Norma Leistiko wrote: I have a patron looking for a movie; help me find it if you have ANY suggestions: Title: the patron does not know Color: yes, in color Location: shot in or represents IRAN Story: Sheep hearder taking his flock for long journeys to new grasslands long long trips across plains up mountains Atmosphere: The sheepherders all wore colorful clothes, colorful tents, beautiful collorsy Story: crossing to other territories so sheep could eat Drama: just the drama of traveling long long distances Year: Film came out about 1970 Norma Leistiko, Reference Librarian Hillsboro Public Library 2850 NE Brookwood Pkwy Hillsboro, Oregon mailto:norm...@ci.hillsboro.or.usnorm...@ci.hillsboro.or.usmailto:norm...@ci.hillsboro.or.us -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of mailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu ghand...@library.berkeley.edumailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 1:53 PM To: Lawrence Daressa Cc: mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] What Am I Doing Wrong? hi again I'm gonna forward my reply (below) and you query to the list. in order to stream to the classroom you need a laptop with wireless or IP network access and you need a projector that will handle digital output (which is most of them) Progressive downloads (streaming) is a pain in the ass. Don't go there! All that said, I would NEVER (ever) recommend that a faculty person opt for streamed delivery over DVD. I consider myself somewhat savvy and possessing considerable sang froid when it comes to using tech to teach, and I can tell you from considerable experience that it's always a total crap shoot--an experience totally dependent on network vagaries and equipment quirks. Classes here start at 10 min after the hour, typically, which means you have 5-10 minutes to run into the class, boot out whomever is in there milling around from the previous class, whip out your lap top, VGA and audio cables, find the input box and hook them up, test the sound level, pray that the projector is working and that the network is not acting hinky. Not my idea of a good time. Gary Subject: Remote Streaming to Classrooms Newsreel would like to call on the wisdom of the list to answer a technical question. How difficult is it to stream content from a remote (not campus) server directly into a classroom? Can it be run directly through a video projector or does it need a laptop with an internet connection? What are the potential glitches we might encounter? Finally, does it make a difference if the content is streamed using real time (RTMP) or progressive streaming? Please answer off-line to l...@newsreel.orgmailto:l...@newsreel.org. Thanks. If you could tell me how to post this or post it for me, I'd greatly appreciate it. I have returned from my two week sojourn in Kyoto; many cherry blossoms, many Zen temples, no post-tsunami stress syndrome. It's the end of term so we should be able to schedule our long-postponed lunch date. Best Wishes Larry. Lawrence Daressa California Newsreel 500 Third Street, #505 San Francisco, CA 94107 phone: 415.284.7800 x302 fax: 415.284.7801 l...@newsreel.orgmailto:l...@newsreel.org www.newsreel.orghttp://www.newsreel.org Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edumailto:ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
Re: [Videolib] Off air record question
Hi Kim, I'd contact the producers of the program and ask they'd be willing to provide you with a copy of the program. It's also entirely possible that their programs are archived on their website. Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Streaming Question
Dear all, but mostly Gary: An age ago, didn't you send out a link to your blog that analyzed the current state of affairs with online/digital (vendor) based vids? I can't find the link, and I'm wondering if it isn't time to re-engineer the content? Troy On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Susan Albrecht albre...@wabash.edu wrote: Sorry folks – left out a digit. It’s 17,000. :0 Susan From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:49 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Question I agree with Jessica. Did you give the professor the correct information? Yes and no, I’d say. Swank now has a catalog of 7,000 feature films for which they have streaming rights (for academic use and via course management systems). The cost varies depending on number you’re signing on for and duration of access. Susan From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:45 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Question Depending on the film obtaining streaming rights should not be impossible though it could be prohibitively expensive. It really depends on the titles. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:37 PM, John Streepy john.stre...@cwu.edu wrote: Hello all, I am 99.9% positive I gave a faculty member the correct response to his request but I thought I would verify with the CW of this august body. The professor is teaching an entirely online course and wants to stream a few full length feature films for the students. These films would only be accessible though a closed password encrypted system. I informed him that at best he could steam a clip or two (for that is protected both by fair use and the TEACH Act) but digitizing and streaming a full feature film would violate copyright. I then informed him that obtaining streaming rights for feature films is next to impossible. Did I give this professor correct information? thanks jhs John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian -- James Turner Rex Libris Transitus profusum est nocens! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com -- M. Troy Davis | (757) 279-8871 Director, Swem Media Center Visiting Assistant Professor of Literary and Cultural Studies / Film Studies Earl Gregg Swem Library The College of William Mary mtd...@wm.edu - http://swem.wm.edu/go/media http://www.flickr.com/photos/swemmedia/ http://www.facebook.com/swemmedia http://www.youtube.com/swemmedia We have been looking for art in the wrong places. ~ Brian Eno VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Streaming Question
Hi Troy Well, ages ago I put together a white paper with Larry Daressa (of California Newsreel) which attempted to provide a snapshot of the terrain, including issues (http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/vod08b.pdf) which was subsequently turned into an article in Library Trends (Volume 58, Number 3, Winter 2010) Is that what you're thinking of??? While I think a few things have shifted slightly since, not sure a re-engineering is called for yet... Gary Handman Dear all, but mostly Gary: An age ago, didn't you send out a link to your blog that analyzed the current state of affairs with online/digital (vendor) based vids? I can't find the link, and I'm wondering if it isn't time to re-engineer the content? Troy On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Susan Albrecht albre...@wabash.edu wrote: Sorry folks – left out a digit. It’s 17,000. :0 Susan From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:49 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Question I agree with Jessica. Did you give the professor the correct information? Yes and no, I’d say. Swank now has a catalog of 7,000 feature films for which they have streaming rights (for academic use and via course management systems). The cost varies depending on number you’re signing on for and duration of access. Susan From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:45 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming Question Depending on the film obtaining streaming rights should not be impossible though it could be prohibitively expensive. It really depends on the titles. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:37 PM, John Streepy john.stre...@cwu.edu wrote: Hello all, I am 99.9% positive I gave a faculty member the correct response to his request but I thought I would verify with the CW of this august body. The professor is teaching an entirely online course and wants to stream a few full length feature films for the students. These films would only be accessible though a closed password encrypted system. I informed him that at best he could steam a clip or two (for that is protected both by fair use and the TEACH Act) but digitizing and streaming a full feature film would violate copyright. I then informed him that obtaining streaming rights for feature films is next to impossible. Did I give this professor correct information? thanks jhs John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian -- James Turner Rex Libris Transitus profusum est nocens! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Jessica Rosner Media Consultant 224-545-3897 (cell) 212-627-1785 (land line) jessicapros...@gmail.com -- M. Troy Davis | (757) 279-8871 Director, Swem Media Center Visiting Assistant Professor of Literary and Cultural Studies / Film Studies Earl Gregg Swem Library The College of William Mary mtd...@wm.edu - http://swem.wm.edu/go/media http://www.flickr.com/photos/swemmedia/ http://www.facebook.com/swemmedia http://www.youtube.com/swemmedia We have been looking for art in the wrong places. ~ Brian Eno VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped
