Re: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions

2013-10-22 Thread Deg Farrelly
I think your assumptions are wrong.

Jane Hutchison and my study show that libraries are NOT acquiring Blu Ray
(in general).

My own computer does not have a BR drive, the Library does not have a BR
player, and the University does not support BR in it's computers/classroom
equipment.

Individual academic units (most notably Film Studies) may have BR
capability.


deg farrelly, Media Librarian
Arizona State University Libraries
Hayden Library C1H1
P.O. Box 871006
Tempe, Arizona  85287-1006
Phone:  602.332.3103

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On 10/22/13 10:35 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu
videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote:


I know most of you do not like blu-ray but I would like to know how much a
problem it is. I am working on a kind of epic project I have been making
cryptic references to and for complicated reasons much of it is Blu ray
only. In terms of research I would assume most students and most libraries
have reasonable access to playing on Blu ray either using a player or a
laptop. I guess the bigger issue is classroom use, is it really that
difficult to get Blu ray player for a classroom ( to make this even more
complicated the part of this collection most likely to be used in class
will be available on DVD).

Feedback appreciated but it is not possible to change formats on this
material though it will be available for streaming for those schools who
can do their own.


--
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com
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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions

2013-10-22 Thread Windsor, Matthew
A related question: 

I would be interested to know if academic libraries are passing on Blu-ray 
media due to the lack of players (as Deg mentioned) or because they were burnt 
on laserdisc adoption in the eighties (or HD DVDs in the Blu-Ray war).

Matthew


Matthew Windsor
Systems and Media Services Librarian
Olin C. Bailey Library
Hendrix College
501-450-1287



-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Deg Farrelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:06 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions

I think your assumptions are wrong.

Jane Hutchison and my study show that libraries are NOT acquiring Blu Ray (in 
general).

My own computer does not have a BR drive, the Library does not have a BR 
player, and the University does not support BR in it's computers/classroom 
equipment.

Individual academic units (most notably Film Studies) may have BR capability.


deg farrelly, Media Librarian
Arizona State University Libraries
Hayden Library C1H1
P.O. Box 871006
Tempe, Arizona  85287-1006
Phone:  602.332.3103

---

http://tinyurl.com/AboutNMM
To market, to market, to find some fresh filmŠ I'm attending the 2013 National 
Media Market, November 3-7 In Charleston, South Carolina.  See you there?


On 10/22/13 10:35 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu
videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote:


I know most of you do not like blu-ray but I would like to know how 
much a problem it is. I am working on a kind of epic project I have 
been making cryptic references to and for complicated reasons much of 
it is Blu ray only. In terms of research I would assume most students 
and most libraries have reasonable access to playing on Blu ray either 
using a player or a laptop. I guess the bigger issue is classroom use, 
is it really that difficult to get Blu ray player for a classroom ( to 
make this even more complicated the part of this collection most likely 
to be used in class will be available on DVD).

Feedback appreciated but it is not possible to change formats on this 
material though it will be available for streaming for those schools 
who can do their own.


--
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com
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VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions

2013-10-22 Thread Jessica Rosner
I am well aware that universities do not want to acquire Blu ray but I
admit I am surprised that the library does not have a single Blu ray
player. I guess my feeling is that if there is enough demand for the
material schools will find a way to use it. In your case if you were
interested you could stream it. As a practical matter the key material that
will be available in DVD but much of the supporting material more likely
used for research will be Blu ray (or streaming) only.  I am just hoping
that institutions or individuals will find a way to access it. It will be
interesting. Those of you going to NMM can check it out and I will post on
videonews shortly.

Thanks


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Deg Farrelly deg.farre...@asu.edu wrote:

 I think your assumptions are wrong.

 Jane Hutchison and my study show that libraries are NOT acquiring Blu Ray
 (in general).

 My own computer does not have a BR drive, the Library does not have a BR
 player, and the University does not support BR in it's computers/classroom
 equipment.

 Individual academic units (most notably Film Studies) may have BR
 capability.


 deg farrelly, Media Librarian
 Arizona State University Libraries
 Hayden Library C1H1
 P.O. Box 871006
 Tempe, Arizona  85287-1006
 Phone:  602.332.3103

 ---

 http://tinyurl.com/AboutNMM
 To market, to market, to find some fresh filmŠ
 I'm attending the 2013 National Media Market, November 3-7
 In Charleston, South Carolina.  See you there?


 On 10/22/13 10:35 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu
 videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote:

 
 I know most of you do not like blu-ray but I would like to know how much a
 problem it is. I am working on a kind of epic project I have been making
 cryptic references to and for complicated reasons much of it is Blu ray
 only. In terms of research I would assume most students and most libraries
 have reasonable access to playing on Blu ray either using a player or a
 laptop. I guess the bigger issue is classroom use, is it really that
 difficult to get Blu ray player for a classroom ( to make this even more
 complicated the part of this collection most likely to be used in class
 will be available on DVD).
 
 Feedback appreciated but it is not possible to change formats on this
 material though it will be available for streaming for those schools who
 can do their own.
 
 
 --
 Jessica Rosner
 Media Consultant
 224-545-3897 (cell)
 212-627-1785 (land line)
 jessicapros...@gmail.com
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 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.




-- 
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions

2013-10-22 Thread Susan Albrecht
For us, Matthew, it's more about a dearth of players.  To my knowledge, we have 
only ONE blu-ray player on campus.  It's well placed, since it's in the room 
most frequently used for public screenings and for film studies courses, but 
since it's the only one (we don't even have one here in our library), we have 
avoided purchasing blu-ray discs.  (The film studies folks tend to buy their 
own to use with their students.)

I wouldn't mind seeing us add a blu-ray player or two, but I'm NOT going to 
start replacing standard DVD with blu-ray in the collection - I can't even 
afford to upgrade as many VHS tapes to DVDs as I want to.  And heck, I'm still 
most concerned about making sure IT doesn't ditch our VCRs without notice!

I have been frustrated on occasion by having to purchase combo packs in order 
to acquire standard DVDs.

Susan

Susan Albrecht
Library Acquisitions Manager
Wabash College Lilly Library
765-361-6216
765-361-6295 fax
albre...@wabash.edu
www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films
http://pinterest.com/wabashcolllib/

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-Original Message-
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Windsor, Matthew
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:17 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions

A related question: 

I would be interested to know if academic libraries are passing on Blu-ray 
media due to the lack of players (as Deg mentioned) or because they were burnt 
on laserdisc adoption in the eighties (or HD DVDs in the Blu-Ray war).

Matthew


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions

2013-10-22 Thread Meghann Matwichuk
We are not 'passing' on Bluray media -- we limit our purchases to those 
titles that are especially visual or have been very well restored, such 
as BBC Planet Earth-type programs and restorations like the Kubrick 
films, or films that are very popular and for which we need multiple 
copies.  But the reason that we do not purchase more on Bluray has 
everything to do with the former (general lack of players / format 
adoption by both patrons and classroom technologists) and nothing (at 
least to my mind) to do with the latter.  Ironically, our (pretty much 
dead) laser disc collection is about the same size as our Bluray 
collection right now -- around 225 titles -- but we will continue to 
grow our Blurays.  I see it as a niche supplementary collection, and do 
not expect it will ever come close to outpacing standard def DVDs.


--
Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
Associate Librarian
Film and Video Collection Department
Morris Library, University of Delaware
181 S. College Ave.
Newark, DE 19717
(302) 831-1475
http://www.lib.udel.edu/filmandvideo


On 10/22/2013 3:16 PM, Windsor, Matthew wrote:

A related question:

I would be interested to know if academic libraries are passing on Blu-ray 
media due to the lack of players (as Deg mentioned) or because they were burnt 
on laserdisc adoption in the eighties (or HD DVDs in the Blu-Ray war).

Matthew


Matthew Windsor
Systems and Media Services Librarian
Olin C. Bailey Library
Hendrix College
501-450-1287




VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions

2013-10-22 Thread Karsten, Eileen
We have some Blu-ray players.  In the future, when we have to replace a player, 
the college is planning to purchase  mulit-region Blu-ray players.The 
college recently purchased one for my office.What keeps me from purchasing 
Blu-rays is the price difference?  On average (for our library), a Blu-ray 
costs $10.00 more than a DVD.  We calculated that if we had bought all Blu-rays 
last year, we would have cut our media budget by roughly two-thirds.  Lake 
Forest College has a very small media budget and every dollar counts.


Eileen Karsten
Head of Technical Services
Donnelley  Lee Library
Lake Forest College
555 N. Sheridan Road
Lake Forest, IL 60045
kars...@mx.lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu
847-735-5066



VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions

2013-10-22 Thread Randal Baier

 

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Subject: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions
Date: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 4:03 pm


We have some Blu-ray players.  In the future, when we have to replace a player, 
the college is planning to purchase  mulit-region Blu-ray players.The 
college recently purchased one for my office.What keeps me from purchasing 
Blu-rays is the price difference?  On average (for our library), a Blu-ray 
costs $10.00 more than a DVD.  We calculated that if we had bought all Blu-rays 
last year, we would have cut our media budget by roughly two-thirds.  Lake 
Forest College has a very small media budget and every dollar counts.


Eileen Karsten
Head of Technical Services
Donnelley  Lee Library
Lake Forest College
555 N. Sheridan Road
Lake Forest, IL 60045
kars...@mx.lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu
847-735-5066



VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Blue Ray Questions

2013-10-22 Thread Randal Baier



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Date: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 4:03 pm


We have some Blu-ray players.  In the future, when we have to replace a player, 
the college is planning to purchase  mulit-region Blu-ray players.The 
college recently purchased one for my office.What keeps me from purchasing 
Blu-rays is the price difference?  On average (for our library), a Blu-ray 
costs $10.00 more than a DVD.  We calculated that if we had bought all Blu-rays 
last year, we would have cut our media budget by roughly two-thirds.  Lake 
Forest College has a very small media budget and every dollar counts.


Eileen Karsten
Head of Technical Services
Donnelley  Lee Library
Lake Forest College
555 N. Sheridan Road
Lake Forest, IL 60045
kars...@mx.lakeforest.edumailto:kars...@lakeforest.edu
847-735-5066



VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.