Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?
Dear Caryl, It's an illegal download site coming out of Panama. You can always go to whois.com and fill in the website URL and find who owns it. In this case, you can find it at http://www.whois.com/whois/movie4kproxy.net Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.com Visit our new websites! www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.com, www.shirleyclarkefilms.com, To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click herehttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0150/7896/files/2014MilestoneVideoCatalog.pdf?75 ! Support Milestone Film on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426 and Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilms! See the website: Association of Moving Image Archivistshttp://www.amianet.org/ and like them on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Association-of-Moving-Image-Archivists/86854559717 AMIA 2014 Conference, Savannah, Georgia, October 8-11, 2014http://www.amianet.org/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Caryl M Ward cw...@binghamton.edu wrote: Hello Collective Wisdom, A professor has asked me about a site that one of her students has found: MOVIE4K. It looks bogus to me, but I don't want to click too far into it. If anyone has knowledge of it, can you provide me with a brief explanation to share with faculty and students? Thanks, Caryl Ward Caryl Ward Head of Acquisitions Subject Librarian for Comparative Literature, LACAS and Romance Languages Binghamton University Libraries (SUNY) cw...@binghamton.edu 607 (777-4926) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?
Jessica, I don't mean to be snarky to you, but as a librarian, I get questions. Answering them with authority is my job. So when a professor, in good faith, asks me is this site safe?, I'm going to do my best to find out all I can about it. I found nothing about MOVIE4K in my standard sources, aside from it being a possible clone of one with a similar name that was shut down last year. This is a teachable moment. Professors and students alike don't always understand what content is freely available, what is coming from a paid resource (from their library) and what is illegally downloaded onto the Internet. I am glad when they ask. I was expecting to hear that accessing this site could result in a computer virus, and if that is the case (and I consider the good people on this list would the authority to confirm), I would like to share that information--quickly, before the original student shares the site with her classmates. Caryl *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2014 11:21 AM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site? Actually not a bootleg site, a pirate downloading site. I don't need to be snarky but you should not need to explain this to a profesor. This site streams new release movies illegally in fact the site itself admits this and just says they don't think it is right people should MAKE money on their films. You could always tell him you don't think he should be paid for his teaching. Would this professor also ask you to not bother buying books and just to download them? Jessica On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Caryl M Ward cw...@binghamton.edu wrote: Hello Collective Wisdom, A professor has asked me about a site that one of her students has found: MOVIE4K. It looks bogus to me, but I don't want to click too far into it. If anyone has knowledge of it, can you provide me with a brief explanation to share with faculty and students? Thanks, Caryl Ward Caryl Ward Head of Acquisitions Subject Librarian for Comparative Literature, LACAS and Romance Languages Binghamton University Libraries (SUNY) cw...@binghamton.edu 607 (777-4926) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?
I am sorry but if a professor can't recognize a pirate site I honestly don't think they know enough to teach. I know this sounds harsh but the site stated on the front page that I looked at that they were there so people did not have to pay for films and links to films new in theaters. I do understand as a librarian you need to give an answer but I have trouble believing that telling someone who presumably have some knowledge of rights that a site offering free downloads of movies in theaters is a teachable moment. I can't honestly believe any professor would think this was a legal site or use. I can have sympathy for people confused by bootleg video sites but streaming sites with movies just released in theaters does not require a PHD to realize they are legal. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Caryl M Ward cw...@binghamton.edu wrote: Jessica, I don't mean to be snarky to you, but as a librarian, I get questions. Answering them with authority is my job. So when a professor, in good faith, asks me is this site safe?, I'm going to do my best to find out all I can about it. I found nothing about MOVIE4K in my standard sources, aside from it being a possible clone of one with a similar name that was shut down last year. This is a teachable moment. Professors and students alike don't always understand what content is freely available, what is coming from a paid resource (from their library) and what is illegally downloaded onto the Internet. I am glad when they ask. I was expecting to hear that accessing this site could result in a computer virus, and if that is the case (and I consider the good people on this list would the authority to confirm), I would like to share that information--quickly, before the original student shares the site with her classmates. Caryl *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2014 11:21 AM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site? Actually not a bootleg site, a pirate downloading site. I don't need to be snarky but you should not need to explain this to a profesor. This site streams new release movies illegally in fact the site itself admits this and just says they don't think it is right people should MAKE money on their films. You could always tell him you don't think he should be paid for his teaching. Would this professor also ask you to not bother buying books and just to download them? Jessica On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Caryl M Ward cw...@binghamton.edu wrote: Hello Collective Wisdom, A professor has asked me about a site that one of her students has found: MOVIE4K. It looks bogus to me, but I don't want to click too far into it. If anyone has knowledge of it, can you provide me with a brief explanation to share with faculty and students? Thanks, Caryl Ward Caryl Ward Head of Acquisitions Subject Librarian for Comparative Literature, LACAS and Romance Languages Binghamton University Libraries (SUNY) cw...@binghamton.edu 607 (777-4926) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site?
Dear Caryl, In regards to a virus that's a very complex question. Since you can't know the source of the website or each individual upload (almost all of these sites have thousands of films uploaded illegally by thousands of people) and each one of them have probably downloaded a lot of films from illegal websites, it's very possible that many of them have viruses attached. I'm not sure there is a way to tell without downloading files and checking them out. It's definitely comparable to STDs, come to think of it. If you don't know the person, you're taking a real risk. If you have relations (isn't that so polite of me?) with a dozen or 100 people, the odds are really not in your favor. And in terms of downloading, you may think you're using protection, but there are so many new viruses every day, that your anti-virus software might not protect you. Now this is from a distributor so I have a dim view of downloading. Everybody under 25 does a ton of it, but I've never done a scan of a computer of somebody who does it to see what it reveals. Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.com Visit our new websites! www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.com, www.shirleyclarkefilms.com, To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click herehttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0150/7896/files/2014MilestoneVideoCatalog.pdf?75 ! Support Milestone Film on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426 and Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilms! See the website: Association of Moving Image Archivistshttp://www.amianet.org/ and like them on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Association-of-Moving-Image-Archivists/86854559717 AMIA 2014 Conference, Savannah, Georgia, October 8-11, 2014http://www.amianet.org/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Caryl M Ward cw...@binghamton.edu wrote: Jessica, I don't mean to be snarky to you, but as a librarian, I get questions. Answering them with authority is my job. So when a professor, in good faith, asks me is this site safe?, I'm going to do my best to find out all I can about it. I found nothing about MOVIE4K in my standard sources, aside from it being a possible clone of one with a similar name that was shut down last year. This is a teachable moment. Professors and students alike don't always understand what content is freely available, what is coming from a paid resource (from their library) and what is illegally downloaded onto the Internet. I am glad when they ask. I was expecting to hear that accessing this site could result in a computer virus, and if that is the case (and I consider the good people on this list would the authority to confirm), I would like to share that information--quickly, before the original student shares the site with her classmates. Caryl *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2014 11:21 AM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Bootleg site? Actually not a bootleg site, a pirate downloading site. I don't need to be snarky but you should not need to explain this to a profesor. This site streams new release movies illegally in fact the site itself admits this and just says they don't think it is right people should MAKE money on their films. You could always tell him you don't think he should be paid for his teaching. Would this professor also ask you to not bother buying books and just to download them? Jessica On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Caryl M Ward cw...@binghamton.edu wrote: Hello Collective Wisdom, A professor has asked me about a site that one of her students has found: MOVIE4K. It looks bogus to me, but I don't want to click too far into it. If anyone has knowledge of it, can you provide me with a brief explanation to share with faculty and students? Thanks, Caryl Ward Caryl Ward Head of Acquisitions Subject Librarian for Comparative Literature, LACAS and Romance Languages Binghamton University Libraries (SUNY) cw...@binghamton.edu 607 (777-4926) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries
