Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
map something to , and it will insert a real tab character for you. for example: inoremap will map F6 for you, replace it with anything you want. I always need such a map, since I've set 'expandtab' all the time. -- Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606 wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2007-04-11 23:16:08: > That's a very good tip: ) > I also wanna know how to insert a "Tab" when I editing files like > /etc/hosts? > Can I? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2007-04-05 21:08:43: > > > >> but in this situation,is there any way to auto-indent *.py? > >> > >> > > > > << is "decrease indent" (hold on Shift, then '<' twice) > > >> is "increase indent" > > You can use << or >> command in Normal mode and Visual mode. which is as > > good as, if no better than, the key. > > > > -- > > Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606 >
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
On 4/11/07, wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's a very good tip: ) I also wanna know how to insert a "Tab" when I editing files like /etc/hosts? Can I? What I did for indenting is I usually use space to replace the TAB with the following settings: set expandtab set tabstop=4 But if I indeed need a realy TAB, I press "CTRL+V TAB" to get one. This may be not what you want, because I didn't go through the whole thread. Anyway, hope that helps a bit. :) -- Best, Zhaojun (Joseph) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2007-04-05 21:08:43: > >> but in this situation,is there any way to auto-indent *.py? >> >> > > << is "decrease indent" (hold on Shift, then '<' twice) > >> is "increase indent" > You can use << or >> command in Normal mode and Visual mode. which is as > good as, if no better than, the key. > > -- > Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
That's a very good tip: ) I also wanna know how to insert a "Tab" when I editing files like /etc/hosts? Can I? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2007-04-05 21:08:43: > >> but in this situation,is there any way to auto-indent *.py? >> >> > > << is "decrease indent" (hold on Shift, then '<' twice) > >> is "increase indent" > You can use << or >> command in Normal mode and Visual mode. which is as > good as, if no better than, the key. > > -- > Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
On 4/6/07, Taylor Venable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:22:43 -0400 "Yakov Lerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/4/07, wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. > > Can I replace this key to Caps Lock,for example? > > I heard some people use Tab as a substitute for Esc. Weird. > But it's easier to do in platform-independent way. > > Yakov If Wikipedia is correct in that vi was originally written on ADM-3A terminals (I think I also read that on here at one time as well) and that this particular terminal had it's escape key where nearly all modern keyboards have a tab key, it kinda makes sense. Here's the page, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi Indeed. And it didn't have tab key, did it ? I use the "mini-keyboard" (measures 29x11cm). I love it becaise everything is nearby. Fingers need to traver less. And takes less space on the crammed desktop :-) Another nice relevant link is this keyboard: http://www.engadget.com/tag/optimus optimis keyboard where every key is a [color] display Yakov
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2007-04-05 21:08:43: > but in this situation,is there any way to auto-indent *.py? > << is "decrease indent" (hold on Shift, then '<' twice) >> is "increase indent" You can use << or >> command in Normal mode and Visual mode. which is as good as, if no better than, the key. -- Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:22:43 -0400 "Yakov Lerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/4/07, wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. > > Can I replace this key to Caps Lock,for example? > > I heard some people use Tab as a substitute for Esc. Weird. > But it's easier to do in platform-independent way. > > Yakov If Wikipedia is correct in that vi was originally written on ADM-3A terminals (I think I also read that on here at one time as well) and that this particular terminal had it's escape key where nearly all modern keyboards have a tab key, it kinda makes sense. Here's the page, for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi Although I'm not going to switch to that scheme any time soon - ^[ works just as well. -- Taylor Venable [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metasyntax.net/
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:08:43 -0400, wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but in this situation,is there any way to auto-indent *.py? I wouldn't have thought so, since the meaning of the code is implied by the indentation rather than vice versa. Personally I always indent using the basic autoindent option along with ^T and ^D. I format my code for the benefit of human readers (mainly myself), so I lay it out to maximise the clarity. Manual indentation works best for that, and after nearly two decades of practice my use of ^T and ^D as required has become automatic. -- Matthew Winn
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Yakov Lerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2007-04-04 22:22:43: On 4/4/07, wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. Can I replace this key to Caps Lock,for example? I heard some people use Tab as a substitute for Esc. Weird. But it's easier to do in platform-independent way. Yakov It's not weird IMO, Tab key is rarely required inside Vim, thanks to the powerful auto-indent feature of Vim (you don't need the tab key even when editing Makefile!), I never feel a need to use key in vim during the last 3 years. I use the Tab key in Vim constantly, not only to insert hard tabs but also for 'wildmenu' completion. I don't feel Esc is "too far away" but maybe it comes (see below) from my early piano lessons (which did not, however, make a pianist out of me). Personaly, I think it is easier to train my fingers to reach the so-called-far-away-ESC-key. (Imagine that the piano players often need to reach keys in the piano much farther than ESC, and they do that precisely.) -- Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606 Best regards, Tony. -- Keep America beautiful. Swallow your beer cans.
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
but in this situation,is there any way to auto-indent *.py? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "Yakov Lerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2007-04-04 22:22:43: > >> On 4/4/07, wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. >>> Can I replace this key to Caps Lock,for example? >>> >> I heard some people use Tab as a substitute for Esc. Weird. >> But it's easier to do in platform-independent way. >> >> Yakov >> > > It's not weird IMO, Tab key is rarely required inside Vim, thanks to the > powerful auto-indent feature of Vim (you don't need the tab key even when > editing Makefile!), I never feel a need to use key in vim during the > last 3 years. > > Personaly, I think it is easier to train my fingers to reach the > so-called-far-away-ESC-key. (Imagine that the piano players often need to > reach keys in the piano much farther than ESC, and they do that precisely.) > > -- > Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
"Yakov Lerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2007-04-04 22:22:43: > On 4/4/07, wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. > > Can I replace this key to Caps Lock,for example? > > I heard some people use Tab as a substitute for Esc. Weird. > But it's easier to do in platform-independent way. > > Yakov It's not weird IMO, Tab key is rarely required inside Vim, thanks to the powerful auto-indent feature of Vim (you don't need the tab key even when editing Makefile!), I never feel a need to use key in vim during the last 3 years. Personaly, I think it is easier to train my fingers to reach the so-called-far-away-ESC-key. (Imagine that the piano players often need to reach keys in the piano much farther than ESC, and they do that precisely.) -- Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
On 4/4/07, wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. Can I replace this key to Caps Lock,for example? I heard some people use Tab as a substitute for Esc. Weird. But it's easier to do in platform-independent way. Yakov
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
On Wed, April 4, 2007 10:55 am, wangxu wrote: > ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. Can I replace this key > to Caps Lock,for example? I don't know how you would do it with the Caps Lock key, but here's what I put in my vimrc to do it with the command key: let mapleader = "," HTH! Tom Purl
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
It is no recommended to map Esc to CapsLock, because you have to figure out different mapping ways for different environments. Try Ctrl-[, Esc is equivalent to Ctrl-[. or, FYR, I myself use "imap jj " instead.
Re: how to replace ESC to some other key?
wangxu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2007-04-04 23:55:55: > ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. > Can I replace this key to Caps Lock,for example? > Thanks. This was well discussed on vim online. Search for tips in vim.sf.net. You'll got all things you need to assign CapsLock to ESC. -- Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606
how to replace ESC to some other key?
ESC is so far from the center of the keyboard. Can I replace this key to Caps Lock,for example? Thanks.
