Re: Fwd: Do Not Reply To This Message:Re: Time to remove naming restrictions?

2006-10-06 Thread Ali Akcaagac
Hello,

I received feedback from them today and they said that they recently had
a lot of issues with bouncing back and that they finally solved this
issue. We therefore should not receive anything from them anymore.

greetings,

Ali Akcaagac

On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 12:13 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
 It's not half a dozen unwanted emails. It's just one email address, i.e., 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- these false bounces all come from the same 
 source. If you feel up to it, write [EMAIL PROTECTED] telling them their 
 mail routers are misconfigured (you can use my mail to Yakov in this thread 
 as 
 a kind of boilerplate). You can also point him to 
 http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html . But don't expect quick and 
 accurate action, that postmaster could quite possibly be an arrogant 
 blockhead 
 wo won't do anything you suggest to him for his own good.




Re: Fwd: Do Not Reply To This Message:Re: Time to remove naming restrictions?

2006-10-06 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Ali Akcaagac wrote:

Hello,

I received feedback from them today and they said that they recently had
a lot of issues with bouncing back and that they finally solved this
issue. We therefore should not receive anything from them anymore.

greetings,

Ali Akcaagac


We'll see -- or rather (hopefully) we won't (see any more of these bothersome 
bounces).


Best regards,
Tony.


Re: Fwd: Do Not Reply To This Message:Re: Time to remove naming restrictions?

2006-10-03 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Nikolai Weibull wrote:

I keep getting this f**king message every time I post to vim-dev.
Seriously, wtf?

 nikolai (awaiting another notification for this mail not getting through)

-- Forwarded message --
From: System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Oct 2006 14:19:05 -0400
Subject: Do Not Reply To This Message:Re: Time to remove naming 
restrictions?

To: Nikolai Weibull [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[...]

Yeah, I get them too. It means someone at knbt discontinued his mail account 
(or got it cancelled) without going to the trouble of unsubscribing from Vim. 
Since the pseudo-bounce does not include the address in question, there's no 
way to know who it was. You can either blacklist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
in your mail reader (e.g. by creating a new filter rule, 'if From: is 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then Move to Trash'), or treat it in whatever 
manner you treat spam.


And since the bounce doesn't go thru the list (it goes direct to the poster), 
no one can filter the bounces away in our place.



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: Do Not Reply To This Message:Re: Time to remove naming restrictions?

2006-10-03 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Nikolai Weibull wrote:
[...]

So anyway, I guess my request is for Felix von Leitner, or whoever
doesn't maintain this mailing list anymore (according to earlier
discussions on similar subjects), to remove the offending email
address from the mailing address.

Thanks.

 nikolai

P.S.
Sorry about the extra traffic about this.
D.S.



The problem is, not only the KNBT pseudo-bounce is misdirected, it is 
incomplete. In particular, it doesn't say which address was not found, so all 
Felix (or Bram or someone) can know is that someone @knbt.com is no longer a 
valid address. But they can't go forcibly unsubscribing _every_ @knbt.com 
subscriber, can they? Quite probably there are more than one.



Best regards,
Tony.


Re: Fwd: Do Not Reply To This Message:Re: Time to remove naming restrictions?

2006-10-03 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Ali Akcaagac wrote:

On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 11:34 +0200, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:

You can either blacklist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
in your mail reader (e.g. by creating a new filter rule,
'if From: is [EMAIL PROTECTED] then Move
to Trash'), or treat it in whatever manner you treat spam.


Hello,

I'm getting these mails as well

I think this is definately no solution. Think about new people who like
joining this mailinglist in regard of contributing or giving feedback to
this list. You definately don't want them to blacklist half a dozen
unwanted emails before they can finally start posting something or
participating to this mailinglist.

mfg,

Ali Akcaagac





It's not half a dozen unwanted emails. It's just one email address, i.e., 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- these false bounces all come from the same 
source. If you feel up to it, write [EMAIL PROTECTED] telling them their 
mail routers are misconfigured (you can use my mail to Yakov in this thread as 
a kind of boilerplate). You can also point him to 
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html . But don't expect quick and 
accurate action, that postmaster could quite possibly be an arrogant blockhead 
wo won't do anything you suggest to him for his own good.



Best regards,
Tony.


Fwd: Do Not Reply To This Message:Re: Time to remove naming restrictions?

2006-10-02 Thread Nikolai Weibull

I keep getting this f**king message every time I post to vim-dev.
Seriously, wtf?

 nikolai (awaiting another notification for this mail not getting through)

-- Forwarded message --
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Date: 2 Oct 2006 14:19:05 -0400
Subject: Do Not Reply To This Message:Re: Time to remove naming restrictions?
To: Nikolai Weibull [EMAIL PROTECTED]






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Re: Do Not Reply To This Message:Re: Time to remove naming restrictions?

2006-10-02 Thread Nikolai Weibull

On 10/2/06, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Me too. I think it means that (1) email address at KNBT that is
unavailable or no longer valid, and (2) it's time for you to add
special filtering rule to your mail reader. I mean, who said mail bot
cannot post to mailing list ?


It's not posting to the mailing list, it's sending it to me, and I
haven't asked for a return receipt or anything.  One would hope that
mailing list software + MTAs would get together and understand that I,
the poster to the mailing list, don't want to know that some douchebag
registered an email address with the mailing list and didn't remove
themself from the mailing list when it was dropped at the recipient
end.  Also, it would be nice if the MTA in question would only send
/one/ notification (during a given time period), not once every time.

So anyway, I guess my request is for Felix von Leitner, or whoever
doesn't maintain this mailing list anymore (according to earlier
discussions on similar subjects), to remove the offending email
address from the mailing address.

Thanks.

 nikolai

P.S.
Sorry about the extra traffic about this.
D.S.