Re: Start Working Today

2012-03-27 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar

Marc Weber wrote:

[line deleted to avoid being caught in a spam filter]
 Origin b...@vim.org looks suspicious - because AFAIK sourceforge does
 not allow sending emails (at least it was so in the past). Bram also has
 a different email he's been using in the past.
[line deleted to avoid being caught in a spam filter]
 
 So does anybody have an idea whether this is a (badly written) real job
 offer by Bram or whether it is what it looks like: spam?
 
 And why is the sending email something @vim.org?
 
 I would love to see a job site for vimmers :) But we should create a
 dedicated mailinglist then.

That message was not from me.  If you look at the headers that should be
obvious.  I wonder how it managed to get through, b...@vim.org is not a
member of this group.

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Re: Start Working Today

2012-03-26 Fir de Conversatie Marc Weber
Having (reasnoble) sallarys in job offers doesn't look like spam to me.
Origin b...@vim.org looks suspicious - because AFAIK sourceforge does
not allow sending emails (at least it was so in the past). Bram also has
a different email he's been using in the past.
jobdayseu.com does not exist - which clearly shows this is (close to) spam.

So does anybody have an idea whether this is a (badly written) real job
offer by Bram or whether it is what it looks like: spam?

And why is the sending email something @vim.org?

I would love to see a job site for vimmers :) But we should create a
dedicated mailinglist then.

Marc Weber

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RE: Start Working Today

2012-03-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Marc Weber wrote:
 So does anybody have an idea whether this is a (badly
 written) real job offer by Bram or whether it is what it
 looks like: spam?

Of course it's spam. I have already notified Bram and deleted
the original post from the Google Groups archive.

I don't think there is anything useful that can be said in
public. I doubt if spammers bother to read this list, but there
would be no value from a public discussion about possible
counter measures.

John

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Re: Start Working Today

2012-03-26 Fir de Conversatie Edward L. Fox
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 16:30, Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de wrote:
 [...]
 So does anybody have an idea whether this is a (badly written) real job
 offer by Bram or whether it is what it looks like: spam?

It is SPAM.  Just Google for jobdayseu.com and you'll see many
similar job offer letters in many different mailing lists.

 And why is the sending email something @vim.org?
 I would love to see a job site for vimmers :) But we should create a
 dedicated mailinglist then.

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Re: Start Working Today

2012-03-26 Fir de Conversatie Marc Weber
jamessan just told me that email specs allow to set different from
address - I just hoped that that would be part of spam protection 
of the mailer - rejecting suspicious from contents.

Probably such spam protection would not help much because spammers could
register again using different email.

It does not talk about the kind of employee they are looking for (coder,
artist, ..)

So sorry for the noise. I think we can close the thread unless somebody
has great ideas how to prevent such mails in the future.

Marc Weber

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RE: Start Working Today

2012-03-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Marc Weber wrote:
 It does not talk about the kind of employee they are looking
 for (coder, artist, ..)

I had better warn any naive readers:

Never believe anything you read on the Internet, including
emails that appear to come from Bram.

Spam can be spam (it is genuinely promoting something).

Spam can be meaningless (someone is just trying a demo).

Spam can be phishing (to get suckers to take the bait in the
spam and perform some action based on its content).

Spam can be MALWARE. It might contain a link which, if clicked,
would exploit vulnerabilities in your browser, and install a
virus on your computer.

Spam can be subtle. It might not contain a link, but might
provide sufficient information so that you put something like
example.com into the address bar of your browser, and that is
the site which delivers the malware.

No doubt there are lots of other things bad things that spammers
can dream up as well.

John

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Re: Start Working Today

2012-03-26 Fir de Conversatie Mark Manning
Too bad too - I'm looking at leaving my job and was going 
h.  :-)  But it looked too good to be true (it showed up 
in my junk folder so I had to look on the mailing list folder to see if 
anyone else got this).  Oh well - back to looking.  :-)


On 3/26/2012 6:30 PM, Marc Weber wrote:

Having (reasnoble) sallarys in job offers doesn't look like spam to me.
Origin b...@vim.org looks suspicious - because AFAIK sourceforge does
not allow sending emails (at least it was so in the past). Bram also has
a different email he's been using in the past.
jobdayseu.com does not exist - which clearly shows this is (close to) spam.

So does anybody have an idea whether this is a (badly written) real job
offer by Bram or whether it is what it looks like: spam?

And why is the sending email something @vim.org?

I would love to see a job site for vimmers :) But we should create a
dedicated mailinglist then.

Marc Weber



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