Re: Newbie question: how/where do I submit a bug (and possibly a patch)?

2007-12-19 Fir de Conversatie Philip Prindeville

Ben Schmidt wrote:
 once logged into 
 Sourceforge, it says that this is for filing bugs against the vimonline 
 website...  not for filing bugs against Vim itself
 

 I think that is correct. The procedure for reporting Vim bugs is documented 
 in 
 Vim's help at, funnily enough

 :help bugs

 Cheers,

 Ben.
   

Equally funny is that once I have it built and running enough to be able 
to do that, I'll probably have fixed the bug myself and it will be a 
non-issue at that point.



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Re: Newbie question: how/where do I submit a bug (and possibly a patch)?

2007-12-19 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck

Philip Prindeville wrote:
 In a sort of roundabout kind of way, I clicked on the link bugs when I 
 when to www.vim.org's site help link, but once logged into 
 Sourceforge, it says that this is for filing bugs against the vimonline 
 website...  not for filing bugs against Vim itself (though looking at 
 the list of existing bugs, most of them seem to be against Vim... oddly).
 
 So which is right?
 
 Thanks,
 
 -Philip

I would suggest the following:

1. Find out who is responsible for the component where you think there is a 
bug. Most of Vim is maintained by Bram, [EMAIL PROTECTED] , but not all of 
it. If the maintainer isn't Bram, his name and email address ought to be 
mentioned near the top of the source file or Vim script in question, and/or 
near the top of the corresponding help file (if any).

2. Write out a bug report, as clearly as you can, if possible with a procedure 
to repeat the bug every time when using [g]vim -N -u NONE, and address that 
bug report to both the maintainer and the vim_dev group ( 
vim_dev@googlegroups.com i.e. this one).

3. Wait for any reactions.


Best regards,
Tony.
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Re: Newbie question: how/where do I submit a bug (and possibly a patch)?

2007-12-19 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck

Philip Prindeville wrote:
 Ben Schmidt wrote:
 once logged into 
 Sourceforge, it says that this is for filing bugs against the vimonline 
 website...  not for filing bugs against Vim itself
 
 I think that is correct. The procedure for reporting Vim bugs is documented 
 in 
 Vim's help at, funnily enough

 :help bugs

 Cheers,

 Ben.
   
 
 Equally funny is that once I have it built and running enough to be able 
 to do that, I'll probably have fixed the bug myself and it will be a 
 non-issue at that point.

Even if you fix the bug yourself, you should let others benefit from it, e.g. 
by sending the bug description and the fix (as a context diff of every file 
you changed) to Bram and also (if different) to the maintainer(s) of the 
concerned source(s) (see my previous post), and possibly also to the vim_dev 
group.

Of course, before doing that, you should make sure that you have the latest 
sources with all patches, and the latest runtimes. See, among others, my HowTo 
pages:
(Unix) http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/vim/compunix.htm
(Win32) http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/vim/compile.htm


Best regards,
Tony.
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Re: Newbie question: how/where do I submit a bug (and possibly a patch)?

2007-12-19 Fir de Conversatie Ben Schmidt

 once logged into 
 Sourceforge, it says that this is for filing bugs against the vimonline 
 website...  not for filing bugs against Vim itself

I think that is correct. The procedure for reporting Vim bugs is documented in 
Vim's help at, funnily enough

:help bugs

Cheers,

Ben.


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Re: Newbie question: how/where do I submit a bug (and possibly a patch)?

2007-12-19 Fir de Conversatie Ben Schmidt

Philip Prindeville wrote:
 Ben Schmidt wrote:
 once logged into 
 Sourceforge, it says that this is for filing bugs against the vimonline 
 website...  not for filing bugs against Vim itself
 
 I think that is correct. The procedure for reporting Vim bugs is documented 
 in 
 Vim's help at, funnily enough

 :help bugs

 Cheers,

 Ben.
   
 Equally funny is that once I have it built and running enough to be able 
 to do that, I'll probably have fixed the bug myself and it will be a 
 non-issue at that point.

O dear, what a shame! I presumed by 'bug' you meant something wrong with a 
running 
Vim, not a problem building Vim.

Bugs and build problems are frequently discussed on this list, which is 
mentioned 
briefly at :help bugs, too, so post away and we'll see if someone can help. For 
interest/information, I've pasted the section of the help below.

Smiles,

Ben.



Bug reports:*bugs* *bug-reports* *bugreport.vim*

Send bug reports to: Vim bugs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is not a maillist but the message is redirected to the Vim maintainer.
Please be brief; all the time that is spent on answering mail is subtracted
from the time that is spent on improving Vim!  Always give a reproducible
example and try to find out which settings or other things influence the
appearance of the bug.  Try different machines, if possible.  Send me patches
if you can!

It will help to include information about the version of Vim you are using and
your setup.  You can get the information with this command: 
:so $VIMRUNTIME/bugreport.vim
This will create a file bugreport.txt in the current directory, with a lot
of information of your environment.  Before sending this out, check if it
doesn't contain any confidential information!

If Vim crashes, please try to find out where.  You can find help on this here:
|debug.txt|.

In case of doubt or when you wonder if the problem has already been fixed but
you can't find a fix for it, become a member of the vim-dev maillist and ask
your question there. |maillist|



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