Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM, dv1...@wayne.edu wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 04:02:59PM +0200, björn wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:46 AM, dv1...@wayne.edu wrote: Could it be because MacVim has TWO 'configure' files of substance, while BramVim only has one? In MacVim repo: 'configure' is just a tiny wrapper. 'src/configure' is meaty. 'src/auto/configure' is even meatier (by ~175KB!!). In BramVim repo: 'configure' is just a tiny wrapper. 'src/configure' is a slightly larger wrapper. 'src/auto/configure' is meaty, about as meaty as 'src/configure' from MacVim. If, in MacVim, the meaty config script that's governing cachefile placement is the one sitting in /src, then that would explain why it's dropping config.cache right in /src (look at its line 914, see a relative path). In BramVim, the only meaty config script is in 'src/auto', so the corresponding line would dump config.cache in src/auto, right? This particular message below is not me agitating for a patch, but just asking a question so I can learn more about how MacVim works. Why is it that MacVim has two configure scripts of substance, src/configure and src/auto/configure, whereas in BramVim src/configure is just a wrapper that calls src/auto/configure? The git logs tell me that originally MacVim's src/configure WAS just a wrapper, but that it became meaty on Oct 18th 2007, where the commit message was Generated configure script OK, I've restored the src/configure script from upstream now. Thanks for figuring this out and pointing it out to me. I made the mistake of running autoconf instead of make autoconf and that is what caused the problem in the first place. I don't want to sound ungrateful or discouraging, but unfortunately your posts are often so long that it makes it hard for me to get the point and I often don't have the energy to read all the multiple postings to one thread. In this case, if you had kept it to one post which simply said replace src/configure with the one from upstream it would have been so much easier for me to fix this. Instead I misunderstood what you were talking about and hence my very delayed reaction. My apologies for this. Anyway, I hope everything works as it should now and thanks once again. Björn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
On Jun 23, 2013, at 1:56 PM, gmn dv1...@wayne.edu wrote: I would certainly have done so, but not being a programmer, I didn't know that that is in fact the correct solution. For all I knew, there may have been a very good reason for there to be two different, meaty configure scripts. Therefore I tried to provide as much info as seemed relevant for helping you to diagnose the problem. I apologize that it was a flood. This is often a problem of a sweet spot type. Sometimes you need a flood of info, others a quick note that there is a problem. A tip that's worked for me in the past is that you put a quick and concise summary and then the flood of details after. This way the readers don't get lost and can look up particulars if needed. Also, if you get a vague reply and details were spread across a thread it is helpful to send a recap email. -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 04:13:44PM +0200, björn wrote: OK, I've restored the src/configure script from upstream now. Tested and works. Thanks again. -gmn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:46 AM, dv1...@wayne.edu wrote:
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:27:17PM +0200, björn wrote:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:55 PM, wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 01:10:58PM -0400, wrote:
On 05/27/13 at 10:46:11 -0400 gmn wrote:
In my opinion, whatever scripts in MacVim that control this ought to
be changed so that the result matches BramVim, and config.cache
files will go in src/auto rather than just src. That way, make
distclean in a MacVim repo will in fact clean them.
That is to say, *if* it is easy to do so, then the relevant scripts
ought to be changed so that blah blah.
(Or perhaps 'make distclean' can be patched to also obliterate any
existing src/config.cache)
If it isn't an easy thing, just forget it. I can deal with it.
Hi Björn,
Although I discovered how to trigger the issue, I don't know what causes
it. I don't know enough about makefiles or confiure scripts to wade
through the difference between those of MacVim and those of BramVim. So
I propose modifying, in MacVim, src/Makefile according the the below
diff.
The line two lines above my added one is doing almost nothing at all,
because the files auto/config.{status,log,cache} are never created by
MacVim as far as I can see:
** If I call './configure -C', they get put in src/, which is what
generated this bug-reporting thread.
** If on the other hand I call plain './configure', then no caches are
created, so there's nothing for that line of the Makefile to destroy.
** If I call './configure --cache-file=src/auto/config.cache (which
'./configure --help tells me is kosher), then no config.cache is put
*anywhere*, and config.{log,status} are put straight into src/ where
the latter won't get wiped out by 'make distclean'.
Therefore I propose leaving that line in place (since it's doing no
harm), but adding one that allows 'make distclean' to destroy
'src/config.{cache,log,status}'. I tested this locally and it seems to
work. Thus 'make distclean' will destroy the things it's supposed to
destroy.
I think it would be better to figure out why there is a difference
instead of blindly patching. I don't know what causes it though, so I
can't help.
Hi Björn,
I think I've found out why MacVim is putting config.cache (et. al.) in
the wrong place (which is itself why 'make distclean' isn't seeking
and destroying those files).
Could it be because MacVim has TWO 'configure' files of substance, while
BramVim only has one?
In MacVim repo:
'configure' is just a tiny wrapper.
'src/configure' is meaty.
'src/auto/configure' is even meatier (by ~175KB!!).
In BramVim repo:
'configure' is just a tiny wrapper.
'src/configure' is a slightly larger wrapper.
'src/auto/configure' is meaty, about as meaty as 'src/configure' from
MacVim.
If, in MacVim, the meaty config script that's governing cachefile
placement is the one sitting in /src, then that would explain why it's
dropping config.cache right in /src (look at its line 914, see a
relative path).
In BramVim, the only meaty config script is in 'src/auto', so the
corresponding line would dump config.cache in src/auto, right?
Of further interest: BramVim's 'src/configure' appears to be calling
'src/auto/configure' with an explicit request that config.cache be left
in 'src/auto'.
If I am right that this is what's causing MacVim to put the files in a
different place from BramVim, it seems to me that either:
(a) one of MacVim's two meaty configure scripts (or both??) should be
made to drop config.cache (and .log, and .status) in 'src/auto', and to
know that that's where to read cached info from.
Or,
(b) the Makefile's 'make distclean' should be tweaked to find those
files in their current location ('src/'). Of course, this needn't be
done in exactly the way I proposed earlier.
BTW, MacVim's 'src/configure' appears to correspond to BramVim's
'src/auto/configure'. There are many differences, but they seem to be
almost all tiny differences. Also, MacVim's 'src/auto/configure'
appears to be older than 'src/configure'.
I'm sorry, but the speculation doesn't help. All I can say is that I
have done nothing to change the way the configure script works for
MacVim. There are a few (not many) changes in the configure.in
script, but that's it. If you figure it out, please send me a patch,
otherwise I can not be of much help.
Björn
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Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 04:02:59PM +0200, björn wrote:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:46 AM, dv1...@wayne.edu wrote:
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:27:17PM +0200, björn wrote:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:55 PM, wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 01:10:58PM -0400, wrote:
On 05/27/13 at 10:46:11 -0400 gmn wrote:
In my opinion, whatever scripts in MacVim that control this ought to
be changed so that the result matches BramVim, and config.cache
files will go in src/auto rather than just src. That way, make
distclean in a MacVim repo will in fact clean them.
That is to say, *if* it is easy to do so, then the relevant scripts
ought to be changed so that blah blah.
(Or perhaps 'make distclean' can be patched to also obliterate any
existing src/config.cache)
If it isn't an easy thing, just forget it. I can deal with it.
Hi Björn,
Although I discovered how to trigger the issue, I don't know what causes
it. I don't know enough about makefiles or confiure scripts to wade
through the difference between those of MacVim and those of BramVim. So
I propose modifying, in MacVim, src/Makefile according the the below
diff.
The line two lines above my added one is doing almost nothing at all,
because the files auto/config.{status,log,cache} are never created by
MacVim as far as I can see:
** If I call './configure -C', they get put in src/, which is what
generated this bug-reporting thread.
** If on the other hand I call plain './configure', then no caches are
created, so there's nothing for that line of the Makefile to destroy.
** If I call './configure --cache-file=src/auto/config.cache (which
'./configure --help tells me is kosher), then no config.cache is put
*anywhere*, and config.{log,status} are put straight into src/ where
the latter won't get wiped out by 'make distclean'.
Therefore I propose leaving that line in place (since it's doing no
harm), but adding one that allows 'make distclean' to destroy
'src/config.{cache,log,status}'. I tested this locally and it seems to
work. Thus 'make distclean' will destroy the things it's supposed to
destroy.
I think it would be better to figure out why there is a difference
instead of blindly patching. I don't know what causes it though, so I
can't help.
Hi Björn,
I think I've found out why MacVim is putting config.cache (et. al.) in
the wrong place (which is itself why 'make distclean' isn't seeking
and destroying those files).
Could it be because MacVim has TWO 'configure' files of substance, while
BramVim only has one?
In MacVim repo:
'configure' is just a tiny wrapper.
'src/configure' is meaty.
'src/auto/configure' is even meatier (by ~175KB!!).
In BramVim repo:
'configure' is just a tiny wrapper.
'src/configure' is a slightly larger wrapper.
'src/auto/configure' is meaty, about as meaty as 'src/configure' from
MacVim.
If, in MacVim, the meaty config script that's governing cachefile
placement is the one sitting in /src, then that would explain why it's
dropping config.cache right in /src (look at its line 914, see a
relative path).
In BramVim, the only meaty config script is in 'src/auto', so the
corresponding line would dump config.cache in src/auto, right?
Of further interest: BramVim's 'src/configure' appears to be calling
'src/auto/configure' with an explicit request that config.cache be left
in 'src/auto'.
If I am right that this is what's causing MacVim to put the files in a
different place from BramVim, it seems to me that either:
(a) one of MacVim's two meaty configure scripts (or both??) should be
made to drop config.cache (and .log, and .status) in 'src/auto', and to
know that that's where to read cached info from.
Or,
(b) the Makefile's 'make distclean' should be tweaked to find those
files in their current location ('src/'). Of course, this needn't be
done in exactly the way I proposed earlier.
BTW, MacVim's 'src/configure' appears to correspond to BramVim's
'src/auto/configure'. There are many differences, but they seem to be
almost all tiny differences. Also, MacVim's 'src/auto/configure'
appears to be older than 'src/configure'.
I'm sorry, but the speculation doesn't help. All I can say is that I
have done nothing to change the way the configure script works for
MacVim. There are a few (not many) changes in the configure.in
script, but that's it. If you figure it out, please send me a patch,
otherwise I can not be of much help.
The speculation is spot on, though. I have solved this, in the sense
that I've identified the cause and how to fix it:
MacVim puts config.{cache,log,status} in src, because src/configure is
NOT merely a wrapper (as it is in BramVim), so there is no special
request to src/auto/configure to put the cache in src/auto (as there is
in BramVim). This alone clinches that
Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 04:02:59PM +0200, björn wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:46 AM, dv1...@wayne.edu wrote: Could it be because MacVim has TWO 'configure' files of substance, while BramVim only has one? In MacVim repo: 'configure' is just a tiny wrapper. 'src/configure' is meaty. 'src/auto/configure' is even meatier (by ~175KB!!). In BramVim repo: 'configure' is just a tiny wrapper. 'src/configure' is a slightly larger wrapper. 'src/auto/configure' is meaty, about as meaty as 'src/configure' from MacVim. If, in MacVim, the meaty config script that's governing cachefile placement is the one sitting in /src, then that would explain why it's dropping config.cache right in /src (look at its line 914, see a relative path). In BramVim, the only meaty config script is in 'src/auto', so the corresponding line would dump config.cache in src/auto, right? This particular message below is not me agitating for a patch, but just asking a question so I can learn more about how MacVim works. Why is it that MacVim has two configure scripts of substance, src/configure and src/auto/configure, whereas in BramVim src/configure is just a wrapper that calls src/auto/configure? The git logs tell me that originally MacVim's src/configure WAS just a wrapper, but that it became meaty on Oct 18th 2007, where the commit message was Generated configure script -gmn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:55 PM, wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 01:10:58PM -0400, wrote:
On 05/27/13 at 10:46:11 -0400 gmn wrote:
In my opinion, whatever scripts in MacVim that control this ought to
be changed so that the result matches BramVim, and config.cache
files will go in src/auto rather than just src. That way, make
distclean in a MacVim repo will in fact clean them.
That is to say, *if* it is easy to do so, then the relevant scripts
ought to be changed so that blah blah.
(Or perhaps 'make distclean' can be patched to also obliterate any
existing src/config.cache)
If it isn't an easy thing, just forget it. I can deal with it.
Hi Björn,
Although I discovered how to trigger the issue, I don't know what causes
it. I don't know enough about makefiles or confiure scripts to wade
through the difference between those of MacVim and those of BramVim. So
I propose modifying, in MacVim, src/Makefile according the the below
diff.
The line two lines above my added one is doing almost nothing at all,
because the files auto/config.{status,log,cache} are never created by
MacVim as far as I can see:
** If I call './configure -C', they get put in src/, which is what
generated this bug-reporting thread.
** If on the other hand I call plain './configure', then no caches are
created, so there's nothing for that line of the Makefile to destroy.
** If I call './configure --cache-file=src/auto/config.cache (which
'./configure --help tells me is kosher), then no config.cache is put
*anywhere*, and config.{log,status} are put straight into src/ where
the latter won't get wiped out by 'make distclean'.
Therefore I propose leaving that line in place (since it's doing no
harm), but adding one that allows 'make distclean' to destroy
'src/config.{cache,log,status}'. I tested this locally and it seems to
work. Thus 'make distclean' will destroy the things it's supposed to
destroy.
I think it would be better to figure out why there is a difference
instead of blindly patching. I don't know what causes it though, so I
can't help.
Björn
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Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 09:27:17PM +0200, björn wrote: I think it would be better to figure out why there is a difference instead of blindly patching. I don't know what causes it though, so I can't help. Very well then :) To all: don't use the '-C' flag with './configure', or else you will ruin 'make distclean' for yourself. It won't destroy your configure cache. (Unless you're aware of this and willing to remove the relevant things manually or patch your local Makefile as I did earlier in this thread). -gmn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
On 05/27/13 at 10:46:11 -0400 gmn wrote: In my opinion, whatever scripts in MacVim that control this ought to be changed so that the result matches BramVim, and config.cache files will go in src/auto rather than just src. That way, make distclean in a MacVim repo will in fact clean them. That is to say, *if* it is easy to do so, then the relevant scripts ought to be changed so that blah blah. (Or perhaps 'make distclean' can be patched to also obliterate any existing src/config.cache) If it isn't an easy thing, just forget it. I can deal with it. -gmn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
Two things, for the record, 1. To prevent any confusion with my other ongoing thread re Tiger PPC, I note that this business about config.cache happens on all archs. I see it on Tiger PPC, Leopard PPC, Lion and Mountain Lion. 2. Also, besides config.cache, the following files are put into src/auto in BramVim but in src on MacVim: config.log, config.status. -gmn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:16 PM, dv1...@wayne.edu wrote: Bram Moolenaar wrote: Doing 'make distclean' doesn't remove src/config.cache. Shouldn't it? I went to compare this to the BramVim repo, but found that the BramVim repo's ./configure script never even creates src/config.cache in the first place. If I forget to do the export CC=clang bit before ./configuring on Lion or greater, then realize my error and go back and do it, then do make distclean to clear the cache, the ./configure script yells at me to do make distclean even though I already did. Sure enough, src/config.cache is still sitting there. I have to manually remove the file. Vim puts config.cache in src/auto. If you have one in src then something went wrong. That's what I suspected, but MacVim has been doing this for what seems like at least a year. I don't have config.cache in src/. Not sure why you do but as far as I can tell MacVim is not the cause of this. There should not be any reason why it should create this file (at least I never patched the configure script to do so). Björn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
Doing 'make distclean' doesn't remove src/config.cache. Shouldn't it? I went to compare this to the BramVim repo, but found that the BramVim repo's ./configure script never even creates src/config.cache in the first place. If I forget to do the export CC=clang bit before ./configuring on Lion or greater, then realize my error and go back and do it, then do make distclean to clear the cache, the ./configure script yells at me to do make distclean even though I already did. Sure enough, src/config.cache is still sitting there. I have to manually remove the file. Vim puts config.cache in src/auto. If you have one in src then something went wrong. -- If an elephant is left tied to a parking meter, the parking fee has to be paid just as it would for a vehicle. [real standing law in Florida, United States of America] /// Bram Moolenaar -- b...@moolenaar.net -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\ an exciting new programming language -- http://www.Zimbu.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org/// -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
Bram Moolenaar wrote: Doing 'make distclean' doesn't remove src/config.cache. Shouldn't it? I went to compare this to the BramVim repo, but found that the BramVim repo's ./configure script never even creates src/config.cache in the first place. If I forget to do the export CC=clang bit before ./configuring on Lion or greater, then realize my error and go back and do it, then do make distclean to clear the cache, the ./configure script yells at me to do make distclean even though I already did. Sure enough, src/config.cache is still sitting there. I have to manually remove the file. Vim puts config.cache in src/auto. If you have one in src then something went wrong. That's what I suspected, but MacVim has been doing this for what seems like at least a year. -gmn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
make distclean fails to remove src/config.cache
Hi Björn, Doing 'make distclean' doesn't remove src/config.cache. Shouldn't it? I went to compare this to the BramVim repo, but found that the BramVim repo's ./configure script never even creates src/config.cache in the first place. If I forget to do the export CC=clang bit before ./configuring on Lion or greater, then realize my error and go back and do it, then do make distclean to clear the cache, the ./configure script yells at me to do make distclean even though I already did. Sure enough, src/config.cache is still sitting there. I have to manually remove the file. -gmn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
