Re: [vintagvw] My weekend with Dave and Marion Bolen

2019-05-23 Thread No Quarter
I have indeed checked out Raby's stuff and boy you have to pay a mint for 
some of that stuff.  Raby takes it to Porsche level for sure and then some. 
If I can get a good set of heads, I've got a mild stroker crank I could use 
and then it's just getting the DTM cooling stuff situated.  I really don't 
like that DTM stuff without a thermostat because if you drive on a cool day, 
it can just keep the engine too cool.  I guess the solution is only to drive 
in warm weather and drive it like you stole it.  LOL!


NQ

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NQ, have you checked with Jake Raby, wealth of information and reminds me
of Gene Berg, although nicer ;^)
https://type4store.com/


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Re: [vintagvw] My weekend with Dave and Marion Bolen

2019-05-23 Thread Dave C. Bolen



Dean,

oh, that is  nice one!  Wish a could weld aluminum!

The contour throttle body was one thing I suggested to NQ.



Cheers, dave

On Tue, 21 May 2019, D Johnson wrote:


NQ, I've always been a lurker (since the 80's) but certainly enjoy your posts. 
I will try, in the future, to comment so you know there is interest. I will
always read a good technical or vw related post. Keep it up. BTW I ran across 
this from a couple years
ago... 
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/converted-my-old-volkswagen-to-fuel-injection.2511764/

You probably saw it too. Keep us up to date on your project, and I'll do the 
same, if I get a chance to put my bug back together. I'm upgrading to an
alternator so I can run an electric heater. The old generator wasn't cutting 
it. I also need to weld some holes that have appeared in my heater boxes. But
first I have to re-wire my welder... and clean my shop... 

Dean Johnson
'71 Super Beetle

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:39 AM Dan Moy  wrote:
  NQ, have you checked with Jake Raby, wealth of information and reminds me 
of Gene Berg, although nicer ;^) 
https://type4store.com/  

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:36 AM No Quarter  wrote:
  Thanks Ray.  I used to amaze myself with my articles I wrote simply 
because
  I hated writing so much in school.  When I could type my thoughts, it 
seemed
  to flow so much easier.

  I've been scanning the net for the parts I'll need to do the conversion 
on a
  type 1.  The choices are endless, but one thing I'm discovering is that 
the
  one TPS I need, is the one that costs so blooming much...like 60 to 80 
bucks
  easy.  Yet there are TPS units from other cars - less easy to work with -
  for well under 10 bucks and sometimes under 5.  It looks like I will be
  getting resourceful and possible even utilizing some 3D printing to make
  adapters.

  If I'm ever in PA, I will take you up on your offer.  Enid and I were 
coming
  back from Maine last October and had a 13 hour layover in Philadelphia
  primarily because I didn't notice the different between AM and PM on the
  flight itinerary.  That was a long day.

  I'm assuming that FI isn't something most guys are interested in due to 
the
  lack of response on here and that is okay.  I was doing even more
  brainstorming today about what I would do if my FI system crashed so then 
I
  started thinking about putting a TPS on a 34-pict-3 and just leaving the
  fuel shut off to the carb.  If anytime my tps failed, I'd disable 
everything
  including the fuel pump, and switch over to old carburetor mode so I could
  keep on going.

  Carburetors just don't impress me now that we have FI and with the pull of
  Dave's 1776 etched in my mind, I can't say no any more.  Just gotta work
  toward saving some bucks by being a bit more ingenious with how to home 
brew
  this entire thing.

  NQ

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Re: [vintagvw] My weekend with Dave and Marion Bolen

2019-05-23 Thread Dave C. Bolen

Dan,

You must have hit Jake on a good day or maybe he has just mellowed over 
the years.


He used to be pretty gruff and crusty and suffered no fools.


Cheers, dave

On Tue, 21 May 2019, Dan Moy wrote:


NQ, have you checked with Jake Raby, wealth of information and reminds me of 
Gene Berg, although nicer ;^) 
https://type4store.com/  

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:36 AM No Quarter  wrote:
  Thanks Ray.  I used to amaze myself with my articles I wrote simply 
because
  I hated writing so much in school.  When I could type my thoughts, it 
seemed
  to flow so much easier.

  I've been scanning the net for the parts I'll need to do the conversion 
on a
  type 1.  The choices are endless, but one thing I'm discovering is that 
the
  one TPS I need, is the one that costs so blooming much...like 60 to 80 
bucks
  easy.  Yet there are TPS units from other cars - less easy to work with -
  for well under 10 bucks and sometimes under 5.  It looks like I will be
  getting resourceful and possible even utilizing some 3D printing to make
  adapters.

  If I'm ever in PA, I will take you up on your offer.  Enid and I were 
coming
  back from Maine last October and had a 13 hour layover in Philadelphia
  primarily because I didn't notice the different between AM and PM on the
  flight itinerary.  That was a long day.

  I'm assuming that FI isn't something most guys are interested in due to 
the
  lack of response on here and that is okay.  I was doing even more
  brainstorming today about what I would do if my FI system crashed so then 
I
  started thinking about putting a TPS on a 34-pict-3 and just leaving the
  fuel shut off to the carb.  If anytime my tps failed, I'd disable 
everything
  including the fuel pump, and switch over to old carburetor mode so I could
  keep on going.

  Carburetors just don't impress me now that we have FI and with the pull of
  Dave's 1776 etched in my mind, I can't say no any more.  Just gotta work
  toward saving some bucks by being a bit more ingenious with how to home 
brew
  this entire thing.

  NQ

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Re: [vintagvw] My weekend with Dave and Marion Bolen

2019-05-23 Thread Dave C. Bolen

NQ,

Thanks for the kind words!  It was good for me to go back over a lot of 
things both learned and forgotten 14 years ago when I first installed 
megasquirt.


Hopefully the side trips down memory lane added to the entertainment value 
of "class" and let you get "un-crossed" eyes for a few minutes.


It was great to visit and see someone in person(and his lovely wife) that 
has been on the list so long!...is it really 26 years!!!?


Cheers, dave

On Sun, 19 May 2019, No Quarter wrote:

Hello gang...NQ here...things have been pretty quiet here on the list since I 
last posted back in January.  Since that time my wife and I spent a wonderful 
month in Australia that went way too fast.  The trip was punctuated with the 
sad fact that a young man decided to check out of life by jumping off the 
bridge we were walking on.  He was right behind us about 20 feet and even 
though we didn't see him jump, the sound and sights afterwards will be burned 
into my mind until my dying day.


On a brighter note, after being on the list here since around 1996 (23 years 
ago), I finally got to meet one of our long-time listees!   Enid and I just 
got back from spending a wonderful weekend with the Bolens in Fayetteville, 
AR.  The reason for the trip was for Dave to share with me his knowledge 
about how to fuel-inject a VW engine and what a wonderful treat it was!  I 
learned so much my head is still swimming, but Dave patiently peeled back 
layers of the fear of the unknown for me and gave me new-found confidence on 
the entire fuel injection process.  It's a bit involved, but so worth the 
effort.


While Dave's wife kindly took my wife under her wing and went and did lady 
things together with her, Dave and I hit the books so-to-speak.  Actually, I 
hit the books more - but Dave was kind enough to have a laptop with larger 
screen plugged in - all propelled with linux - as well as a well thought-out 
syllabus to help teach me how to do this.  I've come away with a 
crystal-clear view of what needs to happen in order to convert to fuel 
injection.


One of my dreams was to build an upright DTM style 2L Type 4 engine, but the 
dual carburetor thing always scared me off.  My experience with duals hasn't 
been good and I absolutely hate dorking with dual carbs.  In my climate, the 
lack of chokes makes starting a VW engine a pure joke and having to 
synchronize carbs every so often is just not worth it to me.  I like the 
center-fed style like what the 1600DP has and now armed with the knowledge 
Dave sent me home with, I think I could do a DTM T4 2L and create a custom 
manifold that would mimic the 1600DP style and then fuel inject it!


As icing on the cake, Dave took me for a ride in his 1968 Beetle with a 
1776cc engine.  The turbo has been removed for various reasons while things 
get resorted out, but I'm telling you guys - I have *NEVER* felt a 1776cc 
engine pull like this.  It was absolutely unreal and now I understand more 
than ever why some dub owners like fuel injection and even turbos.  You know 
when you accelerate and you hit 3rd and 4th gear how your engine starts to 
kind of run out of steam?  That point where the cam has done it's job and 
your pistons are moving so fast that only so much air-fuel mixture can enter 
the cylinder?  With a turbo, this doesn't happen.  It just keeps right on a 
pulling!  I didn't experience that, but I understand the lure so much more so 
now.


Our quick little 3 day vacation ended this evening when we arrived home ready 
to start another work week, but we left with gratitude in our hearts and with 
much thankfulness for the hospitality shown to us on our quick stay.  Dave's 
friend Randy was an absolute pleasure to chat with and we hope to make our 
way back down there again soon where we felt welcomed with open arms.


In closing, I share with y'all a photo of the 2 of us...the teacher and the 
student with the project in the background.  If my eyes look a little 
crossed, it's not without good reason because I got schooled hard and enjoyed 
every single stinkin' minute of it.


https://elassleybie.incolor.com/temp/DaveBolenNQ.jpg

Thank You Dave and Marion (and Randy!) for the wonderful and all-too-short 
time spent together.


NQ










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