RE: [vintagvw] Strange herbie behavior
Hi, Kyle, I tend to agree with Dave -- every symptom you've identified with your Herbie could be attributed to low voltage. So there is something in the system causing a voltage drop (duh). The aggregate of too much resistance in every oxidized terminal or loose connector is the usual area of first attack. And since so many different functions are being affected in Herbie, I would quickly get very suspicious of the system ground. (I work on ambulances and police cars, which are notorious for having a lot of added-on current-suckers. Ground problems account for about 60% of the electrical problems I solve.) Each component needs to be well grounded, obviously. Wiper motors, flasher relays, lighting, horn -- especially if your car was repainted, be sure there's a toothed washer at every attachment point requiring a chassis ground. And of course: be sure any ground terminals (you'll recognize them by the brown wires running to them) are paint-free. The turn signals atop the fenders must be mounted with toothed grounding washers on their undersides. Look at the main battery ground cable. Clean up its battery connection. Look where it's attached to the chassis: clean and paint-free? Have a good toothed washer there? Cable shoe polished clean? Any acid ever gotten wicked up into the cable? Is it original naked flat braid or PVC-jacketed cable? If there's any discoloration, replace it. If it's a vinyl-jacketed cable, replace it anyhow. It's a cheap intervention that can work miracles. Happy hunting. The grounding is just one area lots of us sleuths fail to attend to very much, but it affects the entire car. Bert Knupp in Music City USA __n|_ °(_)º (ô\_|_/ô) U° °U Polizeikäfer 70 From: vintagvw@googlegroups.com [mailto:vintagvw@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Davis Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:35 PM To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com Subject: [vintagvw] Strange herbie behavior Wants to really go in first and second. Wipers died in the down position. Was jerky and sporadic before dying. Turn signals no longer blink quickly, just stay lit (indicator only, not actual signals.) He's a 66 standard. Converted to twelve volts. 75 amp alternator 1600 dp engine. single barrel carb, 30 pict series. his battery did run down the other day. Let me know, Kyle -- -- Visit the VintagVW archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/vintagvw@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintagvw+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to vintagvw@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintagvw. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[vintagvw] Strange herbie behavior
Wants to really go in first and second. Wipers died in the down position. Was jerky and sporadic before dying. Turn signals no longer blink quickly, just stay lit (indicator only, not actual signals.) He's a 66 standard. Converted to twelve volts. 75 amp alternator. 1600 dp engine. single barrel carb, 30 pict series. his battery did run down the other day. Let me know, Kyle -- Visit the VintagVW archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/vintagvw@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintagvw+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to vintagvw@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintagvw. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [vintagvw] Strange herbie behavior
Kyle, See my rants from years ago about cleaning all your electrical connections. All of them! Look it up. cheers, dave On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, Kyle Davis wrote: Wants to really go in first and second. Wipers died in the down position. Was jerky and sporadic before dying. Turn signals no longer blink quickly, just stay lit (indicator only, not actual signals.) He's a 66 standard. Converted to twelve volts. 75 amp alternator. 1600 dp engine. single barrel carb, 30 pict series. his battery did run down the other day. Let me know, Kyle -- Visit the VintagVW archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/vintagvw@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintagvw+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to vintagvw@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintagvw. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit the VintagVW archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/vintagvw@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintagvw+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to vintagvw@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintagvw. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [vintagvw] Strange herbie behavior
Could be a fuse too (or dirty fuse block contacts), looks like on the early 66's power for turn signal and wipers was tied together (one of the 16 amp fuses). Is the horn not working too? There are some diagrams for a 66 here http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=125985 -Original Message- From: vintagvw@googlegroups.com [mailto:vintagvw@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave C. Bolen Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:05 PM To: vintagvw@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Strange herbie behavior Kyle, See my rants from years ago about cleaning all your electrical connections. All of them! Look it up. cheers, dave On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, Kyle Davis wrote: Wants to really go in first and second. Wipers died in the down position. Was jerky and sporadic before dying. Turn signals no longer blink quickly, just stay lit (indicator only, not actual signals.) He's a 66 standard. Converted to twelve volts. 75 amp alternator. 1600 dp engine. single barrel carb, 30 pict series. his battery did run down the other day. Let me know, Kyle -- Visit the VintagVW archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/vintagvw@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintagvw+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to vintagvw@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintagvw. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit the VintagVW archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/vintagvw@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintagvw+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to vintagvw@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintagvw. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit the VintagVW archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/vintagvw@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VintagVW - Air Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vintagvw+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to vintagvw@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintagvw. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.