Re: closing keyboard without exiting message

2016-06-11 Thread SoonerAnnie
Hi Gordon, 

You should be able to swipe to the left to get to the last message that was 
sent to the group. If it was the message you just posted, swipe again to the 
left and it should be there. Hope this helps. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 8:38 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to close the keyboard without exiting a message. For example 
> if you're in a text conversation and the person sends you a message while 
> you're typing and you want to read it since the keyboard takes up most of the 
> bottom part of the screen. right now I just hit the back button and go back 
> into the conversation and relaunch the keyboard when I want to type again.
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Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

2016-06-11 Thread MamaPeach
With NetFlix, I can watch an episode of a show such as The Andy Griffith 
Show. If I pause an episode, then resume play, I get an error and I can't 
continue the episode. I have to remove the NetFlix app from the app 
switcher, then restart the device and that doesn't always work either. The 
error doesn't always happen from pausing either, it just happens. Sometimes, 
I can never get it to work and I have to switch to another profile to watch 
the same episode. YouTube doesn't work half of the time, same thing, remove 
the app from the app switcher and restart the device. . With Hulu, I can be 
browsing around and if I click on more details to learn more about a movie, 
the app will crash every time. These are just a few little annoyances that I 
am having to deal with. I have uninstalled the apps and reinstalled, but the 
problems still exist. My software is up to date as well. The device seemed 
more stable when it was first released than it is now. I guess one of the 
software updates caused these problems.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV 4th Generation

Can you describe what issues you have with Netflix and Youtube?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of MamaPeach

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 3:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

I love mine, but lately I have been noticing some glitches that make  me 
very unhappy, especially with NetFlix and YouTube. I am hoping an update for 
either the Apple TV or for the apps themselves will be released soon that 
will fix these issues. Overall though, I love it and don't regret getting 
mine.


-Original Message-
From: christopher hallsworth
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:56 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Apple TV 4th Generation

Evening everyone.

Your owner and myself are investigating in the Apple TV 4th Generation.
Apart from the book I’ve just bought from Mosen Consulting, “Apple TV 4th 
Generation with VoiceOver”, how are you personally finding it? One of the 
reasons we may be upgrading is the lack of security and bug fix updates in 
the Apple TV 3rd Generation and of course be up in the world . But 
one other somewhat mysterious reason is I’ve heard from the owner that it 
can change the source of an HD TV without one ever having to do it 
themselves. While we are no Apple engineers, we suspect it could be to do 
with our boxes. Any thoughts greatly appreciated. Thank you.



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closing keyboard without exiting message

2016-06-11 Thread Gordon
Is there a way to close the keyboard without exiting a message. For 
example if you're in a text conversation and the person sends you a 
message while you're typing and you want to read it since the keyboard 
takes up most of the bottom part of the screen. right now I just hit the 
back button and go back into the conversation and relaunch the keyboard 
when I want to type again.


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RE: iPhone and Mophie Juice

2016-06-11 Thread Terrie Terlau
For the 6 plus, the switch is so tiny that it almost feels like a grain of 
sand. It is on the back of the case, near the bottom (the battery  end). If you 
put the back of the case toward your body with the battery part down, it is low 
and on the right. It slides left-right with the left being where the mophie 
battery is being used.
I only know about the 6 plus. I hope this is helpful.
Terrie Terlau
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Cramer
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:03 PM
To: viphone
Subject: iPhone and Mophie Juice

Hi,

I read on this list that someone asked about the Mophie juice pack for the 
iPhone.  I bought one and pretty much figured out how to use it.
However, after spending a bunch of time looking for it, I simply can't find the 
switch I have to flip when I want to switch from my phone's battery to the 
Mophie battery.  Where is it or how do I find and use it?  I have the iPhone 6 
with the Mophie juice pack.  It might be very obvious, but I can't find it.
Thanks!
Tom

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Re: How Can I Review Voice Messages I've Sent with the Roger App?

2016-06-11 Thread Alan Lemly
Michelle, 

Thanks so much for your answer and for the link to the article. I think I'm 
going to like Roger if I can get my primary contacts to use it. 

Alan 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Michelle Bernstein  
> wrote:
> 
> Alan, Here is a link to a December 2015 New York Times article on the Roger 
> App which states that
> "You can't save messages from others, or even listen to your own before you 
> send them".
> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/nyregion/new-app-is-a-21st-century-walkie-talkie.html?_r=0
>  
> Hope this helps.  Regards, Michelle Bernstein
> 
>> On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 2:03:55 PM UTC-4, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> I just listened to the AppleVis podcast on the Roger app and am trying it on 
>> my iPhone 6. I like its audio quality and how it allows me to send voice 
>> messages. I tested the app by recording a voice message to one of my 
>> contacts not yet on Roger but I can't figure out how to review what I 
>> recorded and sent.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Can anyone with more experience with the Roger app tell me how I can review 
>> the Rogers I've sent? I tried opening the link which was in the text that I 
>> sent containing my first Roger message but I couldn't figure out how to hear 
>> the recording.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
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Re: iPhone and Mophie Juice

2016-06-11 Thread Andy Baracco

With the back of the case facing you, it is in the lower left area.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Cramer

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 4:03 PM
To: viphone
Subject: iPhone and Mophie Juice

Hi,

I read on this list that someone asked about the Mophie juice pack for
the iPhone.  I bought one and pretty much figured out how to use it.
However, after spending a bunch of time looking for it, I simply can't
find the switch I have to flip when I want to switch from my phone's
battery to the Mophie battery.  Where is it or how do I find and use
it?  I have the iPhone 6 with the Mophie juice pack.  It might be very
obvious, but I can't find it.
Thanks!
Tom

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Re: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop thinking about tomorrow

2016-06-11 Thread Anthony Vece
I can listen to it on oOTunes.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone SE

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 5:42 PM, Afik Sofir  wrote:
> 
>  
>  
> From: Announce 
> [mailto:announce-bounces+afik.sofer=gmail@lists.mushroomfm.com] On Behalf 
> Of announceme...@mushroomfm.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:30 AM
> To: Afik Sofir
> Cc: Mushroom FM Announcements
> Subject: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop thinking 
> about tomorrow
>  
> Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow, doo doo doo, da doo, da dee. And 
> when the Mosen Explosion is on, tomorrow will indeed be only a day away with 
> all its excitement and promise.
> 
> Apple will be revealing plenty of exciting new features on all its platforms, 
> and we'll be covering that extensively with our awesome Tech Team show. Are 
> you looking forward to the big reveal? What are you hoping for? We'll look 
> forward to all your thoughts ahead of the big day.
> 
> And then...and then, we begin an exciting new era for Mushroom FM, hundreds 
> of hours and some months in the planning, with less repetition
> and more fresh shows so you can listen to us for longer. I'll be telling you 
> about some of the new shows you can hear, including my new shows every week 
> night, which I'm really excited about.
> 
> Now all this change means that the Mosen Explosion only gets one, count em, 
> one replay, so I hope you'll make a real effort to join me live, because 
> that's so much fun. I mean, let's face it, yelling at me via email, Twitter 
> or telephone is so much more constructive than just yelling at your device, 
> right? We're now replayed on Tuesday mornings at 5 Am Eastern time, a great 
> time for those who genuinely can't hear the show because it's the middle of 
> the night when we're live. Groovy!
> 
> We've got some crazy wacky news in the mix this week, as we learn about a 
> very spicy seagull, a deer who's made a woman a prisoner, and a debate about 
> the constitutionality of vegetable gardens.
> 
> Bonnie's here with her bulletin too, and we'll open up the history books.
> I hope there'll be sufficient music and entertainment to help you pass the 
> time as we eagerly await tomorrow, tomorrow...
> 
> I'd be totally thrilled, stoked, delighted and jazzed if you'd join me at 2 
> PM Eastern, 7 PM UK, for the Mosen Explosion, only on the always innovating, 
> ever expanding Mushroom FM.
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RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Sandy,

If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You 
will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or maybe 
they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling botvac) 
organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time you can 
afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.

Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their 
union’s “sucks” *smile*

Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Sieghard and Marie,

Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model 
numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 
hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable to 
say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example, accessibility, 
seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have only done the most 
basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its own thing, 
once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to look for, and 
I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of the price, but 
still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can send it back if you 
do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you are disappointed

OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus 
fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several 
models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an app 
is the one which includes the word 'connected".

As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be about 4 
and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass type, so, 
obviously, no probs there, I could possibly fit the entire Dagganham Girls 
Brass Band under there! But if you have something more modern, much less than 5 
inches might be too tight.

I think that this Neato product has the best and easiest dust bin, both for 
removal and emptying. It was nearly full after today's effort, and Hugh was 
sure it wouldn't have much to get, seeing as he had hoovered, with a powerful 
traditional vac recently. I had a lot of dog hairs in it, though the dog is not 
meant to moult and Hugh was sure he had got them all! Another nice thing, but I 
haven't tried it yet with the app, you can spot clean. Lets imagine you have 
spilt something in the kitchen, sugar or flour, perhaps, and you know it is in 
a certain area, just go get your Bot, carried easily by the handle, put it just 
in front of where you think your spillage is and press the spot clean button, 
or use the app, and it will clean a square of about 4 ft (don't quote me on 
just how large the area is, can't remember just now) starting with the outer 
perimeter and working in. So, you don't have to do the whole room if it doesn't 
suit.

Lastly, if anyone is serious about one of these, do look around. Amazon isn't 
bad, in fact, it might be the cheapest, but some have extended warrentees for 
up to 5 years, worth looking at IMHO.

Wine time now, will clink a glass with my new pal Bottom.

Sandy

P.S. Sieghard, you asked how large the floor space of my ground floor, Hugh 
says about 1000 square feet.

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 11 Jun 2016, at 19:52, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
That’s where a traditional 4-poster with just a slatted base and a good 
mattress and a vacuum that is not an upright come in handy. Our bed has about a 
foot of space underneath and I have a built-in central vacuum so just the hose 
and the thing with the floor brush which is only about 2 inches thick and I can 
even get underneath our couch with it.

I must admit that Sandy’s new toy sounds interesting and tempting. Sandy, I 
haven’t looked yet, but do they have different dmodels, if so, which one did 
you buy?


Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:48 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Under the bed? Do you have an idea what the height off the floor the thing 
measures? This could convince my wife to allow a trial purchase. She would be 
wild about something that would get under the bed. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:24 PM
To: 

iPhone and Mophie Juice

2016-06-11 Thread Tom Cramer
Hi,

I read on this list that someone asked about the Mophie juice pack for
the iPhone.  I bought one and pretty much figured out how to use it.
However, after spending a bunch of time looking for it, I simply can't
find the switch I have to flip when I want to switch from my phone's
battery to the Mophie battery.  Where is it or how do I find and use
it?  I have the iPhone 6 with the Mophie juice pack.  It might be very
obvious, but I can't find it.
Thanks!
Tom

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RE: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop thinking about tomorrow

2016-06-11 Thread Richard Turner
Hi,

I just found that you can listen via TuneIn Radio, iTunes Radio and several 
other ways.

Search for MushroomFM in your favorite streaming app.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jeremy Gilley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop 
thinking about tomorrow

 

where can we find this?

 

  _  

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Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com
Subject: FW: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop 
thinking about tomorrow

 

 

 

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Subject: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop thinking 
about tomorrow

 

Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow, doo doo doo, da doo, da dee. And 
when the Mosen Explosion is on, tomorrow will indeed be only a day away with 
all its excitement and promise.

Apple will be revealing plenty of exciting new features on all its platforms, 
and we'll be covering that extensively with our awesome Tech Team show. Are you 
looking forward to the big reveal? What are you hoping for? We'll look forward 
to all your thoughts ahead of the big day.

And then...and then, we begin an exciting new era for Mushroom FM, hundreds of 
hours and some months in the planning, with less repetition
and more fresh shows so you can listen to us for longer. I'll be telling you 
about some of the new shows you can hear, including my new shows every week 
night, which I'm really excited about.

Now all this change means that the Mosen Explosion only gets one, count em, one 
replay, so I hope you'll make a real effort to join me live, because that's so 
much fun. I mean, let's face it, yelling at me via email, Twitter or telephone 
is so much more constructive than just yelling at your device, right? We're now 
replayed on Tuesday mornings at 5 Am Eastern time, a great time for those who 
genuinely can't hear the show because it's the middle of the night when we're 
live. Groovy!

We've got some crazy wacky news in the mix this week, as we learn about a very 
spicy seagull, a deer who's made a woman a prisoner, and a debate about the 
constitutionality of vegetable gardens.

Bonnie's here with her bulletin too, and we'll open up the history books.
I hope there'll be sufficient music and entertainment to help you pass the time 
as we eagerly await tomorrow, tomorrow...

I'd be totally thrilled, stoked, delighted and jazzed if you'd join me at 2 PM 
Eastern, 7 PM UK, for the Mosen Explosion, only on the always innovating, ever 
expanding Mushroom FM.

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Re: How Can I Review Voice Messages I've Sent with the Roger App?

2016-06-11 Thread Michelle Bernstein
Alan, Here is a link to a December 2015 New York Times article on the Roger 
App which states that
"You can't save messages from others, or even listen to your own before you 
send them".
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/nyregion/new-app-is-a-21st-century-walkie-talkie.html?_r=0
 
Hope this helps.  Regards, Michelle Bernstein

On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 2:03:55 PM UTC-4, Alan Lemly wrote:

> I just listened to the AppleVis podcast on the Roger app and am trying it 
> on my iPhone 6. I like its audio quality and how it allows me to send voice 
> messages. I tested the app by recording a voice message to one of my 
> contacts not yet on Roger but I can't figure out how to review what I 
> recorded and sent.
>
>  
>
> Can anyone with more experience with the Roger app tell me how I can 
> review the Rogers I've sent? I tried opening the link which was in the text 
> that I sent containing my first Roger message but I couldn't figure out how 
> to hear the recording.
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer.
>
>  
>
> Alan Lemly
>

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RE: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop thinking about tomorrow

2016-06-11 Thread Jeremy Gilley
where can we find this?

 

  _  

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Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com
Subject: FW: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop
thinking about tomorrow

 

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:30 AM
To: Afik Sofir
Cc: Mushroom FM Announcements
Subject: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop
thinking about tomorrow

 

Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow, doo doo doo, da doo, da dee.
And when the Mosen Explosion is on, tomorrow will indeed be only a day away
with all its excitement and promise.

Apple will be revealing plenty of exciting new features on all its
platforms, and we'll be covering that extensively with our awesome Tech Team
show. Are you looking forward to the big reveal? What are you hoping for?
We'll look forward to all your thoughts ahead of the big day.

And then...and then, we begin an exciting new era for Mushroom FM, hundreds
of hours and some months in the planning, with less repetition
and more fresh shows so you can listen to us for longer. I'll be telling you
about some of the new shows you can hear, including my new shows every week
night, which I'm really excited about.

Now all this change means that the Mosen Explosion only gets one, count em,
one replay, so I hope you'll make a real effort to join me live, because
that's so much fun. I mean, let's face it, yelling at me via email, Twitter
or telephone is so much more constructive than just yelling at your device,
right? We're now replayed on Tuesday mornings at 5 Am Eastern time, a great
time for those who genuinely can't hear the show because it's the middle of
the night when we're live. Groovy!

We've got some crazy wacky news in the mix this week, as we learn about a
very spicy seagull, a deer who's made a woman a prisoner, and a debate about
the constitutionality of vegetable gardens.

Bonnie's here with her bulletin too, and we'll open up the history books.
I hope there'll be sufficient music and entertainment to help you pass the
time as we eagerly await tomorrow, tomorrow...

I'd be totally thrilled, stoked, delighted and jazzed if you'd join me at 2
PM Eastern, 7 PM UK, for the Mosen Explosion, only on the always innovating,
ever expanding Mushroom FM.

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FW: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop thinking about tomorrow

2016-06-11 Thread Afik Sofir
 

 

From: Announce 
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Of announceme...@mushroomfm.com
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:30 AM
To: Afik Sofir
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Subject: [Mushroom FM Announce] The Mosen Explosion says, don't stop thinking 
about tomorrow

 

Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow, doo doo doo, da doo, da dee. And 
when the Mosen Explosion is on, tomorrow will indeed be only a day away with 
all its excitement and promise.

Apple will be revealing plenty of exciting new features on all its platforms, 
and we'll be covering that extensively with our awesome Tech Team show. Are you 
looking forward to the big reveal? What are you hoping for? We'll look forward 
to all your thoughts ahead of the big day.

And then...and then, we begin an exciting new era for Mushroom FM, hundreds of 
hours and some months in the planning, with less repetition
and more fresh shows so you can listen to us for longer. I'll be telling you 
about some of the new shows you can hear, including my new shows every week 
night, which I'm really excited about.

Now all this change means that the Mosen Explosion only gets one, count em, one 
replay, so I hope you'll make a real effort to join me live, because that's so 
much fun. I mean, let's face it, yelling at me via email, Twitter or telephone 
is so much more constructive than just yelling at your device, right? We're now 
replayed on Tuesday mornings at 5 Am Eastern time, a great time for those who 
genuinely can't hear the show because it's the middle of the night when we're 
live. Groovy!

We've got some crazy wacky news in the mix this week, as we learn about a very 
spicy seagull, a deer who's made a woman a prisoner, and a debate about the 
constitutionality of vegetable gardens.

Bonnie's here with her bulletin too, and we'll open up the history books.
I hope there'll be sufficient music and entertainment to help you pass the time 
as we eagerly await tomorrow, tomorrow...

I'd be totally thrilled, stoked, delighted and jazzed if you'd join me at 2 PM 
Eastern, 7 PM UK, for the Mosen Explosion, only on the always innovating, ever 
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Re: Using Microsoft Word on my iPhone 6S with my BI 40 Braille display

2016-06-11 Thread Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון
hi, try to use the latter q with space to turn of qwick nav

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-11 ביוני 2016, בשעה 22:24, ‏‏Paul Hunt ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Thanks Richard. There is a keystroke. I'll give it a try.
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Assuming you are using all the latest versions, the only thing I can think 
>> of is that Quick Nav was on.
>> 
>> I don't recall if there is a keystroke to turn it off with a braille 
>> display, but you can do that with a Bluetooth keyboard with the left and 
>> right arrow keys together.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Paul Hunt
>> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Using Microsoft Word on my iPhone 6S with my BI 40 Braille display
>> 
>> Hello everybody. Today I took notes at a meeting with my iPhone 6S and my BI 
>> 40 braille display. I was using Microsoft Word.
>> Every time I entered a character, my braille display went to the top of the 
>> current page or the top of the document. Is there a way to get my display to 
>> follow the cursor?
>> Thanks so much.
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Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Hi Sieghard and Marie,

Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model 
numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 
hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable to 
say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example, accessibility, 
seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have only done the most 
basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its own thing, 
once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to look for, and 
I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of the price, but 
still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can send it back if you 
do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you are disappointed

OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus 
fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several 
models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an app 
is the one which includes the word 'connected". 

As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be about 4 
and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass type, so, 
obviously, no probs there, I could possibly fit the entire Dagganham Girls 
Brass Band under there! But if you have something more modern, much less than 5 
inches might be too tight.

I think that this Neato product has the best and easiest dust bin, both for 
removal and emptying. It was nearly full after today's effort, and Hugh was 
sure it wouldn't have much to get, seeing as he had hoovered, with a powerful 
traditional vac recently. I had a lot of dog hairs in it, though the dog is not 
meant to moult and Hugh was sure he had got them all! Another nice thing, but I 
haven't tried it yet with the app, you can spot clean. Lets imagine you have 
spilt something in the kitchen, sugar or flour, perhaps, and you know it is in 
a certain area, just go get your Bot, carried easily by the handle, put it just 
in front of where you think your spillage is and press the spot clean button, 
or use the app, and it will clean a square of about 4 ft (don't quote me on 
just how large the area is, can't remember just now) starting with the outer 
perimeter and working in. So, you don't have to do the whole room if it doesn't 
suit.

Lastly, if anyone is serious about one of these, do look around. Amazon isn't 
bad, in fact, it might be the cheapest, but some have extended warrentees for 
up to 5 years, worth looking at IMHO.

Wine time now, will clink a glass with my new pal Bottom.

Sandy

P.S. Sieghard, you asked how large the floor space of my ground floor, Hugh 
says about 1000 square feet.   

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jun 2016, at 19:52, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> That’s where a traditional 4-poster with just a slatted base and a good 
> mattress and a vacuum that is not an upright come in handy. Our bed has about 
> a foot of space underneath and I have a built-in central vacuum so just the 
> hose and the thing with the floor brush which is only about 2 inches thick 
> and I can even get underneath our couch with it.
>  
> I must admit that Sandy’s new toy sounds interesting and tempting. Sandy, I 
> haven’t looked yet, but do they have different dmodels, if so, which one did 
> you buy?
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:48 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Under the bed? Do you have an idea what the height off the floor the thing 
> measures? This could convince my wife to allow a trial purchase. She would be 
> wild about something that would get under the bed. Keith
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jeremy Gilley
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> That is what I did sandy. accidently pressed the button and off it went lol.
> My dog too has no problems with it. she sniffed it a couple times and was 
> like ok, what ever.
> This thing even zoomed under my bed everything. It was really awesome 
> cleaning my apt. I have a 1,300 SQFT apt. Your right, it finds the rooms off 
> the living room and if you leave closets opened as I accidently did, it even 
> zoomed in and cleaned.
> It is remarkable how it can be at the back end of the APT and it finds it way 
> to the front of the apt where the charger is, turn itself around and back 
> itself up to recharge.
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:16 PM
> To: 

RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Jeremy Gilley
So,

I baught the newest neato that just came out. I got it at best buy. It was
origionally $629.00 US Dollars. I ended up getting some off and got it for
$560.00 US dollars.

I just finished getting it set up through my phone with the help of a friend
to check the WI-FI info on the vacume. Talk about totally cool.

I love this thing.My sighted friend was totally impressed with it and
couldn't believe how well it did with going under things and around things.

Mine came with a 30 day return policy. Needless to say, I won't be returning
it. I also purchased a warranty for it. If there is a problem, take it in
where I baught it and if they can't fix it, they will just hand me a new
unit.

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 2:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
you using Dropbox

 

Which model did you get?

Marie

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins'   via VIPhone 

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you
using Dropbox

 

Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has
arrived and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about
half an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using
the Bot.

 

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt
with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms,
all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some
have 3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open,
nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room
until it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed
to be heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little
utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back
through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly,
only banging its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its
direct line to the docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song
and sent me a message to my iPhone saying it was done! 

 

This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and
has a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!!

 

Satisfied Sandy.

Hi, 

Here's a link to "2016-06-10 02_59.wav" in my Dropbox:

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adjusting a user's volume in zello

2016-06-11 Thread Jed Barton

Hey guys.
I am trying to adjust a user's volume in zello.  I adjust it.  There is 
a zero, then  there is a plus db and a minus db.  is there any sort of 
done button, cause it doesn't seem to be holding.  Any ideas?


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Re: What is air-play, and how does it work?

2016-06-11 Thread christopher hallsworth
Airplay lets you stream audio and or video content wirelessly to airplay 
compatible devices like Apple TV and Airplay speakers to name but a few. With 
Airplay mirroring, whatever is displayed on your device is “mirrored” to your 
Apple TV.
> On 9 Jun 2016, at 09:30, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
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> Hello everyone,
> 
> I was wondering, what is air-play, and how does it work?
> Why would you want to use it?
> 
> I discovered it earlier tonight, when I was trying to get the IPhone to work 
> with my IPod doc.
> 
> Anyway, it stated that I could use the IPhone audio, which I was already 
> doing. Or that I could stream it as video, over my Apple TV.
> Now if what I am listening to, is just audio, will it still play over my 
> Apple TV?
> I have an IPhone 5S, and a 3rd generation Apple TV.
> 
> Any help would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
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Re: Using Microsoft Word on my iPhone 6S with my BI 40 Braille display

2016-06-11 Thread Paul Hunt
Thanks Richard. There is a keystroke. I'll give it a try.

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Assuming you are using all the latest versions, the only thing I can think of 
> is that Quick Nav was on.
> 
> I don't recall if there is a keystroke to turn it off with a braille display, 
> but you can do that with a Bluetooth keyboard with the left and right arrow 
> keys together.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Using Microsoft Word on my iPhone 6S with my BI 40 Braille display
> 
> Hello everybody. Today I took notes at a meeting with my iPhone 6S and my BI 
> 40 braille display. I was using Microsoft Word.
> Every time I entered a character, my braille display went to the top of the 
> current page or the top of the document. Is there a way to get my display to 
> follow the cursor?
> Thanks so much.
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some zello problems

2016-06-11 Thread Jed Barton

Hey guys,

I am running the latest IOS.  has anyone noticed that when you load 
zello, it screws with voiceover, and screws with the volume?  Also, i am 
trying to set it up, so that when i get a notifiication on zello, or if 
someone talks, voiceover doesn't constantly say 1 notification.  It gets 
real old real fast especially during a long conversation.  Any ideas?


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RE: Using Microsoft Word on my iPhone 6S with my BI 40 Braille display

2016-06-11 Thread Richard Turner
Assuming you are using all the latest versions, the only thing I can think of 
is that Quick Nav was on.

I don't recall if there is a keystroke to turn it off with a braille display, 
but you can do that with a Bluetooth keyboard with the left and right arrow 
keys together.

Richard


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using Microsoft Word on my iPhone 6S with my BI 40 Braille display

Hello everybody. Today I took notes at a meeting with my iPhone 6S and my BI 40 
braille display. I was using Microsoft Word.
Every time I entered a character, my braille display went to the top of the 
current page or the top of the document. Is there a way to get my display to 
follow the cursor?
Thanks so much.

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Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Marie
Which model did you get?
Marie


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has arrived 
and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about half an hour, 
is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using the Bot.

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms, 
all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some have 
3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open, 
nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room until 
it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed to be 
heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little utility 
room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back through 3 
rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly, only banging 
its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its direct line to the 
docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song and sent me a message 
to my iPhone saying it was done! 

This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and has 
a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!!

Satisfied Sandy.
Hi, 
Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0



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RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That’s where a traditional 4-poster with just a slatted base and a good 
mattress and a vacuum that is not an upright come in handy. Our bed has about a 
foot of space underneath and I have a built-in central vacuum so just the hose 
and the thing with the floor brush which is only about 2 inches thick and I can 
even get underneath our couch with it.

I must admit that Sandy’s new toy sounds interesting and tempting. Sandy, I 
haven’t looked yet, but do they have different dmodels, if so, which one did 
you buy?


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:48 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Under the bed? Do you have an idea what the height off the floor the thing 
measures? This could convince my wife to allow a trial purchase. She would be 
wild about something that would get under the bed. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

That is what I did sandy. accidently pressed the button and off it went lol.
My dog too has no problems with it. she sniffed it a couple times and was like 
ok, what ever.
This thing even zoomed under my bed everything. It was really awesome cleaning 
my apt. I have a 1,300 SQFT apt. Your right, it finds the rooms off the living 
room and if you leave closets opened as I accidently did, it even zoomed in and 
cleaned.
It is remarkable how it can be at the back end of the APT and it finds it way 
to the front of the apt where the charger is, turn itself around and back 
itself up to recharge.


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Keith,

Because the house was vacuumed 2 days ago, there wasn't any build-up in the 
corners etc. But, because of the shape of this Neato, which has a square edge, 
it does go along the wall edges, using its side brushes, these push the 
dust/hair under the rotating brushes and are sucked up. Also, because of the 
square corners, it should do a better job in corners. I can only say that we 
will be monitoring it over the next month, not using any other vacuum, and I 
will report back to you. As for tiles: approx half of our floor space is tiled 
and it works well with them. I was a little concerned when my partner ordered 
the Bot before I had finished researching it because I had heard that it had 
problems with dark/black floors, interpreting them as "drop-off". The thing is 
not meant to fall off steps and uses brightness/darkness as a guide. Well, we 
have a chess-board tiled floor and I was worried it might not manage it, 
however, no probs. perhaps the problems were with earlier models. Rugs are no 
problem either. However, if you have something long haired like a goat skin 
rug, well, you will have the same problems that you would have with any hoover.

Lastly, re the chairs and table scenario: the Bot does map and remember, 
but it also sees, in a way, it uses laser. If things are exactly in their usual 
place, I imagine, it will be most quick to do its work, but if things are 
moved, it will work, just as it did for me this morning, when it mapped for the 
first time. By the way, we did leave the chairs down, round the tables, it was 
fine! it went in between the legs and did a fine job! Do you get the impression 
I like this new toy?

Lastly, as I told Jeramy, we do still need help with turning on the wifi on the 
BotVac itself before we can use it with the app. But one can always just press 
the start button and off it goes!

Sandy.

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On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:25, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:
Hi,
How does it do on edges and corners? And tile?

If a dining room table has chairs positioned at the table, it can’t get 
underneath. So, if one removes the chairs on occasion to do a more thorough 
cleaning, is it smart enough to know at those times, without the chairs there, 
it should clean under the table, too?

Thanks, Keith

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Sieghard,

Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local 

Using Microsoft Word on my iPhone 6S with my BI 40 Braille display

2016-06-11 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello everybody. Today I took notes at a meeting with my iPhone 6S and my BI 40 
braille display. I was using Microsoft Word.
Every time I entered a character, my braille display went to the top of the 
current page or the top of the document. Is there a way to get my display to 
follow the cursor?
Thanks so much.

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Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
just did a check on the net, it is 12 cm I'll leave you in Siri to do the 
conversion to inches.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jun 2016, at 18:53, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
> 
> I think 3 inches?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:48 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Under the bed? Do you have an idea what the height off the floor the thing 
> measures? This could convince my wife to allow a trial purchase. She would be 
> wild about something that would get under the bed. Keith
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jeremy Gilley
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> That is what I did sandy. accidently pressed the button and off it went lol.
> My dog too has no problems with it. she sniffed it a couple times and was 
> like ok, what ever.
> This thing even zoomed under my bed everything. It was really awesome 
> cleaning my apt. I have a 1,300 SQFT apt. Your right, it finds the rooms off 
> the living room and if you leave closets opened as I accidently did, it even 
> zoomed in and cleaned.
> It is remarkable how it can be at the back end of the APT and it finds it way 
> to the front of the apt where the charger is, turn itself around and back 
> itself up to recharge.
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Hi Keith,
>  
> Because the house was vacuumed 2 days ago, there wasn't any build-up in 
> the corners etc. But, because of the shape of this Neato, which has a square 
> edge, it does go along the wall edges, using its side brushes, these push the 
> dust/hair under the rotating brushes and are sucked up. Also, because of the 
> square corners, it should do a better job in corners. I can only say that we 
> will be monitoring it over the next month, not using any other vacuum, and I 
> will report back to you. As for tiles: approx half of our floor space is 
> tiled and it works well with them. I was a little concerned when my partner 
> ordered the Bot before I had finished researching it because I had heard that 
> it had problems with dark/black floors, interpreting them as "drop-off". The 
> thing is not meant to fall off steps and uses brightness/darkness as a guide. 
> Well, we have a chess-board tiled floor and I was worried it might not manage 
> it, however, no probs. perhaps the problems were with earlier models. Rugs 
> are no problem either. However, if you have something long haired like a goat 
> skin rug, well, you will have the same problems that you would have with any 
> hoover.
>  
> Lastly, re the chairs and table scenario: the Bot does map and remember, 
> but it also sees, in a way, it uses laser. If things are exactly in their 
> usual place, I imagine, it will be most quick to do its work, but if things 
> are moved, it will work, just as it did for me this morning, when it mapped 
> for the first time. By the way, we did leave the chairs down, round the 
> tables, it was fine! it went in between the legs and did a fine job! Do you 
> get the impression I like this new toy?
>  
> Lastly, as I told Jeramy, we do still need help with turning on the wifi on 
> the BotVac itself before we can use it with the app. But one can always just 
> press the start button and off it goes!
>  
> Sandy. 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:25, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> How does it do on edges and corners? And tile?
>  
> If a dining room table has chairs positioned at the table, it can’t get 
> underneath. So, if one removes the chairs on occasion to do a more thorough 
> cleaning, is it smart enough to know at those times, without the chairs 
> there, it should clean under the table, too?
>  
> Thanks, Keith
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Sieghard,
>  
> Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined abby, 
> but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the ground 
> floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will time it 
> tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my new 
> household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I had 
> it set to 

How Can I Review Voice Messages I've Sent with the Roger App?

2016-06-11 Thread Alan Lemly
I just listened to the AppleVis podcast on the Roger app and am trying it on
my iPhone 6. I like its audio quality and how it allows me to send voice
messages. I tested the app by recording a voice message to one of my
contacts not yet on Roger but I can't figure out how to review what I
recorded and sent.

 

Can anyone with more experience with the Roger app tell me how I can review
the Rogers I've sent? I tried opening the link which was in the text that I
sent containing my first Roger message but I couldn't figure out how to hear
the recording.

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: iMac for sale plus Mac Master Series free

2016-06-11 Thread M. Taylor
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I’m selling off my current iMac with the below specs to make room for the new 
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RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Jeremy Gilley
I think 3 inches?

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:48 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
you using Dropbox

 

Under the bed? Do you have an idea what the height off the floor the thing
measures? This could convince my wife to allow a trial purchase. She would
be wild about something that would get under the bed. Keith

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jeremy Gilley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
you using Dropbox

 

That is what I did sandy. accidently pressed the button and off it went lol.

My dog too has no problems with it. she sniffed it a couple times and was
like ok, what ever.

This thing even zoomed under my bed everything. It was really awesome
cleaning my apt. I have a 1,300 SQFT apt. Your right, it finds the rooms off
the living room and if you leave closets opened as I accidently did, it even
zoomed in and cleaned.

It is remarkable how it can be at the back end of the APT and it finds it
way to the front of the apt where the charger is, turn itself around and
back itself up to recharge.

 

  _  

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
you using Dropbox

 

Hi Keith,

 

Because the house was vacuumed 2 days ago, there wasn't any build-up in
the corners etc. But, because of the shape of this Neato, which has a square
edge, it does go along the wall edges, using its side brushes, these push
the dust/hair under the rotating brushes and are sucked up. Also, because of
the square corners, it should do a better job in corners. I can only say
that we will be monitoring it over the next month, not using any other
vacuum, and I will report back to you. As for tiles: approx half of our
floor space is tiled and it works well with them. I was a little concerned
when my partner ordered the Bot before I had finished researching it because
I had heard that it had problems with dark/black floors, interpreting them
as "drop-off". The thing is not meant to fall off steps and uses
brightness/darkness as a guide. Well, we have a chess-board tiled floor and
I was worried it might not manage it, however, no probs. perhaps the
problems were with earlier models. Rugs are no problem either. However, if
you have something long haired like a goat skin rug, well, you will have the
same problems that you would have with any hoover.

 

Lastly, re the chairs and table scenario: the Bot does map and remember,
but it also sees, in a way, it uses laser. If things are exactly in their
usual place, I imagine, it will be most quick to do its work, but if things
are moved, it will work, just as it did for me this morning, when it mapped
for the first time. By the way, we did leave the chairs down, round the
tables, it was fine! it went in between the legs and did a fine job! Do you
get the impression I like this new toy?

 

Lastly, as I told Jeramy, we do still need help with turning on the wifi on
the BotVac itself before we can use it with the app. But one can always just
press the start button and off it goes!

 

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:25, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 wrote:

Hi,

How does it do on edges and corners? And tile?

 

If a dining room table has chairs positioned at the table, it can't get
underneath. So, if one removes the chairs on occasion to do a more thorough
cleaning, is it smart enough to know at those times, without the chairs
there, it should clean under the table, too?

 

Thanks, Keith

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
you using Dropbox

 

Sieghard,

 

Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined
abby, but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the
ground floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will
time it tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my
new household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I
had it set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your
floors to your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery
intensive mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house,
whereas, I do have some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of
larger, say, 6 by 8, or therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on
them. Also, re noise, on Turbo,it is louder 

RE: 6th gen iPod Touch, blue, 128GB

2016-06-11 Thread M. Taylor
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Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
there is a Japanese robot Guide  dog. I am following its progress…

sent

Sandy from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jun 2016, at 18:10, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Couldn't you make a Bot guide dog/lead dog out of it?  call it K9 if you 
> must; others did.
> 
> Cheaper to run is my guess and don't have to carry poop facilities.  I'd try 
> one of these, yet not had a guide dog nor ever applied 
> for one.
> 
> Might make an interesting public awareness exercise what it is about and not 
> to feed it.
> 
> BobH, thinks it would have mileage.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 4:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
> 
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> 
> Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and 
> ask if they could hook up some of that technology to your 
> brain, next thing you’ll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make 
> sure they leave out  whatever makes the botvac suck up 
> all the dirt it comes across, it might give you indigestion and I don’t think 
> our anatomy is designed to cough up furballs *smile*.
> 
> Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and 
> how long did it take for it to do the six rooms?
> 
> 
> Happy vacuuming,
> Sieghard
> 
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
> using Dropbox
> 
> Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has 
> arrived and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, 
> lasting about half an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first 
> experience using the Bot.
> 
>In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
> with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground 
> floor, we have 6 rooms, all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at 
> least 2 doors, some have 3, not counting external 
> doors. I left all the internal doors open, nevertheless, the BotVac did each 
> room, not being tempted out of the room until it was 
> finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed to be heading 
> home to the docking station, that it had missed the 
> little utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, 
> back through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once 
> finished, it headed, unerringly, only banging its head a little on a 
> treadmill, but not put off from its direct line to the docking 
> station, where it backed into place, sang a song and sent me a message to my 
> iPhone saying it was done!
> 
>This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and 
> has a great sense of which room it is in. I want a 
> botVac hat!!
> 
>Satisfied Sandy.
> Hi,
> 
> Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0
> 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
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RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Under the bed? Do you have an idea what the height off the floor the thing 
measures? This could convince my wife to allow a trial purchase. She would be 
wild about something that would get under the bed. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jeremy Gilley
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

That is what I did sandy. accidently pressed the button and off it went lol.
My dog too has no problems with it. she sniffed it a couple times and was like 
ok, what ever.
This thing even zoomed under my bed everything. It was really awesome cleaning 
my apt. I have a 1,300 SQFT apt. Your right, it finds the rooms off the living 
room and if you leave closets opened as I accidently did, it even zoomed in and 
cleaned.
It is remarkable how it can be at the back end of the APT and it finds it way 
to the front of the apt where the charger is, turn itself around and back 
itself up to recharge.


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hi Keith,

Because the house was vacuumed 2 days ago, there wasn't any build-up in the 
corners etc. But, because of the shape of this Neato, which has a square edge, 
it does go along the wall edges, using its side brushes, these push the 
dust/hair under the rotating brushes and are sucked up. Also, because of the 
square corners, it should do a better job in corners. I can only say that we 
will be monitoring it over the next month, not using any other vacuum, and I 
will report back to you. As for tiles: approx half of our floor space is tiled 
and it works well with them. I was a little concerned when my partner ordered 
the Bot before I had finished researching it because I had heard that it had 
problems with dark/black floors, interpreting them as "drop-off". The thing is 
not meant to fall off steps and uses brightness/darkness as a guide. Well, we 
have a chess-board tiled floor and I was worried it might not manage it, 
however, no probs. perhaps the problems were with earlier models. Rugs are no 
problem either. However, if you have something long haired like a goat skin 
rug, well, you will have the same problems that you would have with any hoover.

Lastly, re the chairs and table scenario: the Bot does map and remember, 
but it also sees, in a way, it uses laser. If things are exactly in their usual 
place, I imagine, it will be most quick to do its work, but if things are 
moved, it will work, just as it did for me this morning, when it mapped for the 
first time. By the way, we did leave the chairs down, round the tables, it was 
fine! it went in between the legs and did a fine job! Do you get the impression 
I like this new toy?

Lastly, as I told Jeramy, we do still need help with turning on the wifi on the 
BotVac itself before we can use it with the app. But one can always just press 
the start button and off it goes!

Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:25, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:
Hi,
How does it do on edges and corners? And tile?

If a dining room table has chairs positioned at the table, it can’t get 
underneath. So, if one removes the chairs on occasion to do a more thorough 
cleaning, is it smart enough to know at those times, without the chairs there, 
it should clean under the table, too?

Thanks, Keith

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Sieghard,

Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined abby, 
but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the ground 
floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will time it 
tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my new 
household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I had it 
set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your floors to 
your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery intensive 
mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house, whereas, I do have 
some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of larger, say, 6 by 8, or 
therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on them. Also, re noise, on 
Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find it at all loud, even when 
Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it was working. When it did the 
utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it 

RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Jeremy Gilley
That is what I did sandy. accidently pressed the button and off it went lol.

My dog too has no problems with it. she sniffed it a couple times and was
like ok, what ever.

This thing even zoomed under my bed everything. It was really awesome
cleaning my apt. I have a 1,300 SQFT apt. Your right, it finds the rooms off
the living room and if you leave closets opened as I accidently did, it even
zoomed in and cleaned.

It is remarkable how it can be at the back end of the APT and it finds it
way to the front of the apt where the charger is, turn itself around and
back itself up to recharge.

 

  _  

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
you using Dropbox

 

Hi Keith,

 

Because the house was vacuumed 2 days ago, there wasn't any build-up in
the corners etc. But, because of the shape of this Neato, which has a square
edge, it does go along the wall edges, using its side brushes, these push
the dust/hair under the rotating brushes and are sucked up. Also, because of
the square corners, it should do a better job in corners. I can only say
that we will be monitoring it over the next month, not using any other
vacuum, and I will report back to you. As for tiles: approx half of our
floor space is tiled and it works well with them. I was a little concerned
when my partner ordered the Bot before I had finished researching it because
I had heard that it had problems with dark/black floors, interpreting them
as "drop-off". The thing is not meant to fall off steps and uses
brightness/darkness as a guide. Well, we have a chess-board tiled floor and
I was worried it might not manage it, however, no probs. perhaps the
problems were with earlier models. Rugs are no problem either. However, if
you have something long haired like a goat skin rug, well, you will have the
same problems that you would have with any hoover.

 

Lastly, re the chairs and table scenario: the Bot does map and remember,
but it also sees, in a way, it uses laser. If things are exactly in their
usual place, I imagine, it will be most quick to do its work, but if things
are moved, it will work, just as it did for me this morning, when it mapped
for the first time. By the way, we did leave the chairs down, round the
tables, it was fine! it went in between the legs and did a fine job! Do you
get the impression I like this new toy?

 

Lastly, as I told Jeramy, we do still need help with turning on the wifi on
the BotVac itself before we can use it with the app. But one can always just
press the start button and off it goes!

 

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:25, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 wrote:

Hi,

How does it do on edges and corners? And tile?

 

If a dining room table has chairs positioned at the table, it can't get
underneath. So, if one removes the chairs on occasion to do a more thorough
cleaning, is it smart enough to know at those times, without the chairs
there, it should clean under the table, too?

 

Thanks, Keith

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
you using Dropbox

 

Sieghard,

 

Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined
abby, but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the
ground floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will
time it tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my
new household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I
had it set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your
floors to your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery
intensive mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house,
whereas, I do have some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of
larger, say, 6 by 8, or therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on
them. Also, re noise, on Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find
it at all loud, even when Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it
was working. When it did the utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it
and so had started feeding the cat and the dog, it carried on working around
them and me, in a really rather confined space.

 

I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably
impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years!
The app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the
owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but
also to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility!

 

Sandy (Version 1) 

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard 

Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Hi Keith,

Because the house was vacuumed 2 days ago, there wasn't any build-up in the 
corners etc. But, because of the shape of this Neato, which has a square edge, 
it does go along the wall edges, using its side brushes, these push the 
dust/hair under the rotating brushes and are sucked up. Also, because of the 
square corners, it should do a better job in corners. I can only say that we 
will be monitoring it over the next month, not using any other vacuum, and I 
will report back to you. As for tiles: approx half of our floor space is tiled 
and it works well with them. I was a little concerned when my partner ordered 
the Bot before I had finished researching it because I had heard that it had 
problems with dark/black floors, interpreting them as "drop-off". The thing is 
not meant to fall off steps and uses brightness/darkness as a guide. Well, we 
have a chess-board tiled floor and I was worried it might not manage it, 
however, no probs. perhaps the problems were with earlier models. Rugs are no 
problem either. However, if you have something long haired like a goat skin 
rug, well, you will have the same problems that you would have with any hoover.

Lastly, re the chairs and table scenario: the Bot does map and remember, 
but it also sees, in a way, it uses laser. If things are exactly in their usual 
place, I imagine, it will be most quick to do its work, but if things are 
moved, it will work, just as it did for me this morning, when it mapped for the 
first time. By the way, we did leave the chairs down, round the tables, it was 
fine! it went in between the legs and did a fine job! Do you get the impression 
I like this new toy?

Lastly, as I told Jeramy, we do still need help with turning on the wifi on the 
BotVac itself before we can use it with the app. But one can always just press 
the start button and off it goes!

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:25, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> How does it do on edges and corners? And tile?
>  
> If a dining room table has chairs positioned at the table, it can’t get 
> underneath. So, if one removes the chairs on occasion to do a more thorough 
> cleaning, is it smart enough to know at those times, without the chairs 
> there, it should clean under the table, too?
>  
> Thanks, Keith
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Sieghard,
>  
> Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined abby, 
> but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the ground 
> floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will time it 
> tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my new 
> household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I had 
> it set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your 
> floors to your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery 
> intensive mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house, whereas, 
> I do have some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of larger, say, 6 
> by 8, or therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on them. Also, re 
> noise, on Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find it at all loud, 
> even when Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it was working. When 
> it did the utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it and so had started 
> feeding the cat and the dog, it carried on working around them and me, in a 
> really rather confined space.
>  
> I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably 
> impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years! The 
> app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the 
> owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but 
> also to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility!
>  
> Sandy (Version 1) 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
>  
> Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and 
> ask if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing 
> you’ll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave 
> out  whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it might 
> give you indigestion and I don’t think our anatomy is designed to cough up 
> furballs *smile*.
>  
> Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and 
> how long did it take for it to do the six rooms?
>  
>  
> Happy vacuuming,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 

RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Jeremy Gilley
Hi,

Actually just did a face time with a friend.

After calling Neato, they said that I needed to make sure the WI-FI was
checked on the robot.

SO, face time my friend, and they said it wasn't checked, but being that
this is a touch screen, I couldn't feel anything and couldn't click on what
needed to be checked.

SO, they are coming over.

Hopefully can get this set up.

I have ran the machine twice on my apartment.

The first time it did it one way wich I thought it was odd, then the second
time it ran manually, it did it another way.

It can get stuck in some areas lol. Got stuck in the bathroom lol.

But over all, it is cool. It beeps at you when the canister needs to be
emptied, but I could never figure out how to restart it after that.

Hoping the app will help me click on resume or something.

 

 

  _  

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
you using Dropbox

 

Hi again,

 

Having read your message more closely, I am wondering, might this be
something to do with your router? I know that ours is OK, but that might be
just chance. I do know that it can only work on certain channels or some
such. If you go to the Neato Robotics site, there is a useful FaQ section, I
saw referehce to the wifi question there. I am thinking that this might be
your problem. If so, it will not be a question of accessibility, but
something that might occur to anyone.

 

Good luck again, Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:13, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:

Hi,

I have purchased one of these things, and unless I have gotten the wrong
app, it is totally not working for me.

It keeps asking for my password to connect to my network, but when I put it
in, it gives an error and says to see the robot screen for more info.

Did you have help setting up the app origionally?

 


  _  


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
you using Dropbox

 

Sieghard,

 

Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined
abby, but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the
ground floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will
time it tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my
new household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I
had it set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your
floors to your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery
intensive mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house,
whereas, I do have some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of
larger, say, 6 by 8, or therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on
them. Also, re noise, on Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find
it at all loud, even when Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it
was working. When it did the utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it
and so had started feeding the cat and the dog, it carried on working around
them and me, in a really rather confined space.

 

I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably
impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years!
The app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the
owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but
also to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility!

 

Sandy (Version 1) 

sent from the dark side of the moon

 

On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Sandy,

 

Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and
ask if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing
you'll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave
out  whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it
might give you indigestion and I don't think our anatomy is designed to
cough up furballs *smile*.

 

Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and
how long did it take for it to do the six rooms?

 

 

Happy vacuuming,

Sieghard

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you
using Dropbox

 

Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has
arrived and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about
half an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using
the Bot.

 

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt
with my, 

Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Bot guide dog idea:  it would be a right pain if battery died while out and you 
had to carry it home.
Actually, you'd pull the lead handle up and over and pull it home.  
Hummmnmnmnm,...  need to think about that some more.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox


Hi Sandy,

Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and ask 
if they could hook up some of that technology to your 
brain, next thing you’ll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make 
sure they leave out  whatever makes the botvac suck up 
all the dirt it comes across, it might give you indigestion and I don’t think 
our anatomy is designed to cough up furballs *smile*.

Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and how 
long did it take for it to do the six rooms?


Happy vacuuming,
Sieghard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has arrived 
and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, 
lasting about half an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first 
experience using the Bot.

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground 
floor, we have 6 rooms, all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at 
least 2 doors, some have 3, not counting external 
doors. I left all the internal doors open, nevertheless, the BotVac did each 
room, not being tempted out of the room until it was 
finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed to be heading 
home to the docking station, that it had missed the 
little utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, 
back through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once 
finished, it headed, unerringly, only banging its head a little on a treadmill, 
but not put off from its direct line to the docking 
station, where it backed into place, sang a song and sent me a message to my 
iPhone saying it was done!

This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and has 
a great sense of which room it is in. I want a 
botVac hat!!

Satisfied Sandy.
Hi,

Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0


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Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Couldn't you make a Bot guide dog/lead dog out of it?  call it K9 if you must; 
others did.

Cheaper to run is my guess and don't have to carry poop facilities.  I'd try 
one of these, yet not had a guide dog nor ever applied 
for one.

Might make an interesting public awareness exercise what it is about and not to 
feed it.

BobH, thinks it would have mileage.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox


Hi Sandy,

Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and ask 
if they could hook up some of that technology to your 
brain, next thing you’ll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make 
sure they leave out  whatever makes the botvac suck up 
all the dirt it comes across, it might give you indigestion and I don’t think 
our anatomy is designed to cough up furballs *smile*.

Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and how 
long did it take for it to do the six rooms?


Happy vacuuming,
Sieghard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has arrived 
and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, 
lasting about half an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first 
experience using the Bot.

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground 
floor, we have 6 rooms, all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at 
least 2 doors, some have 3, not counting external 
doors. I left all the internal doors open, nevertheless, the BotVac did each 
room, not being tempted out of the room until it was 
finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed to be heading 
home to the docking station, that it had missed the 
little utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, 
back through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once 
finished, it headed, unerringly, only banging its head a little on a treadmill, 
but not put off from its direct line to the docking 
station, where it backed into place, sang a song and sent me a message to my 
iPhone saying it was done!

This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and has 
a great sense of which room it is in. I want a 
botVac hat!!

Satisfied Sandy.
Hi,

Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0


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Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
I loved this story.  Great for spacious flats/apartments;  I'm in a 2-storey 
semi/duplex, and very cluttered;  Bot would not be 
happy.
- Original Message - 
From: "'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 2:19 PM
Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox


Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has arrived 
and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, 
lasting about half an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first 
experience using the Bot.

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground 
floor, we have 6 rooms, all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at 
least 2 doors, some have 3, not counting external 
doors. I left all the internal doors open, nevertheless, the BotVac did each 
room, not being tempted out of the room until it was 
finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed to be heading 
home to the docking station, that it had missed the 
little utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, 
back through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once 
finished, it headed, unerringly, only banging its head a little on a treadmill, 
but not put off from its direct line to the docking 
station, where it backed into place, sang a song and sent me a message to my 
iPhone saying it was done!

This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and has 
a great sense of which room it is in. I want a 
botVac hat!!

Satisfied Sandy.
Hi,
Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0



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Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Hi again,

Having read your message more closely, I am wondering, might this be 
something to do with your router? I know that ours is OK, but that might be 
just chance. I do know that it can only work on certain channels or some such. 
If you go to the Neato Robotics site, there is a useful FaQ section, I saw 
referehce to the wifi question there. I am thinking that this might be your 
problem. If so, it will not be a question of accessibility, but something that 
might occur to anyone.

Good luck again, Sandy. 

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> On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:13, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have purchased one of these things, and unless I have gotten the wrong app, 
> it is totally not working for me.
> It keeps asking for my password to connect to my network, but when I put it 
> in, it gives an error and says to see the robot screen for more info.
> Did you have help setting up the app origionally?
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Sieghard,
>  
> Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined abby, 
> but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the ground 
> floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will time it 
> tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my new 
> household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I had 
> it set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your 
> floors to your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery 
> intensive mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house, whereas, 
> I do have some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of larger, say, 6 
> by 8, or therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on them. Also, re 
> noise, on Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find it at all loud, 
> even when Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it was working. When 
> it did the utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it and so had started 
> feeding the cat and the dog, it carried on working around them and me, in a 
> really rather confined space.
>  
> I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably 
> impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years! The 
> app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the 
> owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but 
> also to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility!
>  
> Sandy (Version 1) 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> 
>> On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi Sandy,
>>  
>> Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and 
>> ask if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing 
>> you’ll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave 
>> out  whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it 
>> might give you indigestion and I don’t think our anatomy is designed to 
>> cough up furballs *smile*.
>>  
>> Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and 
>> how long did it take for it to do the six rooms?
>>  
>>  
>> Happy vacuuming,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
>> using Dropbox
>>  
>> Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has 
>> arrived and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about 
>> half an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using 
>> the Bot.
>>  
>> In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
>> with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms, 
>> all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some 
>> have 3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open, 
>> nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room 
>> until it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed 
>> to be heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little 
>> utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back 
>> through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly, 
>> only banging its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its 
>> direct line to the docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song 
>> and sent me a message to my iPhone saying it was done! 
>>  
>> This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into 

Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Hi Jerome, (I think I spelled your name wrong, sorry)

So far, the only thing I have found I needed help with was turning on wifi 
on the machine itself. I had to get my partner to use the onboard touch screen 
to do this. It took him about 20 seconds to do it, but, surely, 'tis a pity 
that we can't do it ourselves.

In case you haven't done this: someone who can see it must select 'settings' on 
the touch screen. Then select "wifi" and then turn it on and, finally, back out 
to the home screen. Then you just follow the prompts to set it up, using the 
app,  with your router. I did make a mess of entering my router's password (too 
much wine on a Friday night!!) So, when I went to settings on the phone, it 
couldn't find the Neato device. I had to troubleshoot online, by the way, there 
is a whole load of help sites with troubleshooting and tips and tricks, out 
there. I discovered that if, with the straight edge toward you, you push the 
right hand side of the bumper, gently,  in toward the machine while holding the 
"home/clean" button down for 15 seconds, it resets the wifi and you can start 
again. When I did this, my phone fould see the Neato again and all went well 
from then on.

Let me know if this is not helpful and I will find you some links that 
explain it better!

Good luck, Sandy. 


sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:13, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have purchased one of these things, and unless I have gotten the wrong app, 
> it is totally not working for me.
> It keeps asking for my password to connect to my network, but when I put it 
> in, it gives an error and says to see the robot screen for more info.
> Did you have help setting up the app origionally?
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with 
> you using Dropbox
>  
> Sieghard,
>  
> Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined abby, 
> but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the ground 
> floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will time it 
> tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my new 
> household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I had 
> it set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your 
> floors to your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery 
> intensive mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house, whereas, 
> I do have some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of larger, say, 6 
> by 8, or therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on them. Also, re 
> noise, on Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find it at all loud, 
> even when Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it was working. When 
> it did the utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it and so had started 
> feeding the cat and the dog, it carried on working around them and me, in a 
> really rather confined space.
>  
> I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably 
> impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years! The 
> app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the 
> owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but 
> also to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility!
>  
> Sandy (Version 1) 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> 
>> On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi Sandy,
>>  
>> Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and 
>> ask if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing 
>> you’ll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave 
>> out  whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it 
>> might give you indigestion and I don’t think our anatomy is designed to 
>> cough up furballs *smile*.
>>  
>> Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and 
>> how long did it take for it to do the six rooms?
>>  
>>  
>> Happy vacuuming,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
>> using Dropbox
>>  
>> Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has 
>> arrived and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about 
>> half an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using 
>> the Bot.
>>  
>> In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
>> with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms, 
>> all interlinking. Apart 

RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Hi,
How does it do on edges and corners? And tile?

If a dining room table has chairs positioned at the table, it can’t get 
underneath. So, if one removes the chairs on occasion to do a more thorough 
cleaning, is it smart enough to know at those times, without the chairs there, 
it should clean under the table, too?

Thanks, Keith

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Sieghard,

Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined abby, 
but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the ground 
floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will time it 
tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my new 
household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I had it 
set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your floors to 
your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery intensive 
mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house, whereas, I do have 
some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of larger, say, 6 by 8, or 
therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on them. Also, re noise, on 
Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find it at all loud, even when 
Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it was working. When it did the 
utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it and so had started feeding the 
cat and the dog, it carried on working around them and me, in a really rather 
confined space.

I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably 
impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years! The 
app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the 
owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but also 
to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility!

Sandy (Version 1)

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
Hi Sandy,

Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and ask 
if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing you’ll 
be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave out  
whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it might give 
you indigestion and I don’t think our anatomy is designed to cough up furballs 
*smile*.

Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and how 
long did it take for it to do the six rooms?


Happy vacuuming,
Sieghard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
using Dropbox

Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has arrived 
and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about half an hour, 
is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using the Bot.

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms, 
all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some have 
3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open, 
nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room until 
it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed to be 
heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little utility 
room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back through 3 
rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly, only banging 
its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its direct line to the 
docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song and sent me a message 
to my iPhone saying it was done!

This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and has 
a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!!

Satisfied Sandy.
Hi,

Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0


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RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Jeremy Gilley
Hi,

I have purchased one of these things, and unless I have gotten the wrong
app, it is totally not working for me.

It keeps asking for my password to connect to my network, but when I put it
in, it gives an error and says to see the robot screen for more info.

Did you have help setting up the app origionally?

 

  _  

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
you using Dropbox

 

Sieghard,

 

Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined
abby, but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the
ground floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will
time it tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my
new household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I
had it set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your
floors to your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery
intensive mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house,
whereas, I do have some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of
larger, say, 6 by 8, or therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on
them. Also, re noise, on Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find
it at all loud, even when Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it
was working. When it did the utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it
and so had started feeding the cat and the dog, it carried on working around
them and me, in a really rather confined space.

 

I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably
impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years!
The app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the
owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but
also to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility!

 

Sandy (Version 1) 

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Sandy,

 

Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and
ask if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing
you'll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave
out  whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it
might give you indigestion and I don't think our anatomy is designed to
cough up furballs *smile*.

 

Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and
how long did it take for it to do the six rooms?

 

 

Happy vacuuming,

Sieghard

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you
using Dropbox

 

Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has
arrived and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about
half an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using
the Bot.

 

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt
with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms,
all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some
have 3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open,
nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room
until it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed
to be heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little
utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back
through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly,
only banging its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its
direct line to the docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song
and sent me a message to my iPhone saying it was done! 

 

This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and
has a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!!

 

Satisfied Sandy.

Hi,

Here's a link to "2016-06-10 02_59.wav" in my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0



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Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sieghard,

Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined abby, 
but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the ground 
floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will time it 
tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my new 
household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I had it 
set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your floors to 
your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery intensive 
mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house, whereas, I do have 
some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of larger, say, 6 by 8, or 
therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on them. Also, re noise, on 
Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find it at all loud, even when 
Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it was working. When it did the 
utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it and so had started feeding the 
cat and the dog, it carried on working around them and me, in a really rather 
confined space.

I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably 
impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years! The 
app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the 
owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but also 
to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility!

Sandy (Version 1) 

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> On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
>  
> Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and 
> ask if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing 
> you’ll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave 
> out  whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it might 
> give you indigestion and I don’t think our anatomy is designed to cough up 
> furballs *smile*.
>  
> Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and 
> how long did it take for it to do the six rooms?
>  
>  
> Happy vacuuming,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you 
> using Dropbox
>  
> Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has 
> arrived and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about half 
> an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using the Bot.
>  
> In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
> with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms, 
> all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some 
> have 3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open, 
> nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room 
> until it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed 
> to be heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little 
> utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back 
> through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly, 
> only banging its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its 
> direct line to the docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song 
> and sent me a message to my iPhone saying it was done! 
>  
> This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and 
> has a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!!
>  
> Satisfied Sandy.
> Hi,
> Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0
> 
> 
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2016-06-11 Thread VaShaun Jones
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Re: Newsfeed preferences in Facebook

2016-06-11 Thread Deidre Muccio
Yes, thank you, I scoured through every conceivable setting and finally found 
it under favorites


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> On Jun 11, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
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> 
> In the more tab, right under the favorites heading, there is a most recent 
> option. Other than that, newsfeed preferences can be found inside of the more 
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>> Hey, I can't find the place for newsfeed preferences that includes to select 
>> most recent posts. It seems year so ago I saw that when I hit on the more 
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Forwarding Multiple messages in whats app

2016-06-11 Thread Dr. Harshit Jaithwar
Hi friends, is there any way in iPhone, to selecting and forwarding
multiple whats app messages in one go?



  Currently frustrated by forwarding one by one. In android, it was pretty
easy to select multiple messages and forward to other whats ap user at once.



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RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Sandy,

Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and ask 
if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing you’ll 
be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave out  
whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it might give 
you indigestion and I don’t think our anatomy is designed to cough up furballs 
*smile*.

Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and how 
long did it take for it to do the six rooms?


Happy vacuuming,
Sieghard

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Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has arrived 
and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about half an hour, 
is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using the Bot.

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms, 
all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some have 
3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open, 
nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room until 
it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed to be 
heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little utility 
room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back through 3 
rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly, only banging 
its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its direct line to the 
docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song and sent me a message 
to my iPhone saying it was done!

This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and has 
a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!!

Satisfied Sandy.
Hi,

Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:

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FS: 6th gen iPod Touch, blue, 128GB

2016-06-11 Thread Kd
Hi, guys!

I'm selling an iPod Touch 6th generation, in excellent condition, blue, 128GB. 
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Re: This is file 2. Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Dave
Hi sandra,

thanks very much for that.

sounds like an interesting machine, and the recording was excellent!

cheers,

Dave.


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This is file 2. Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

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Hi,
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Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread Dave
hi sandra,

there is only one link, which is part one of your demo, in this Email.

do you have the link to part 2?

Dave.

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Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has arrived 
and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about half an hour, 
is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using the Bot.

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms, 
all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some have 
3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open, 
nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room until 
it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed to be 
heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little utility 
room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back through 3 
rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly, only banging 
its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its direct line to the 
docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song and sent me a message 
to my iPhone saying it was done! 

This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and has 
a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!!

Satisfied Sandy.
Hi, 
Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:

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Re: Newsfeed preferences in Facebook

2016-06-11 Thread Feliciano Godoy
In the more tab, right under the favorites heading, there is a most recent 
option. Other than that, newsfeed preferences can be found inside of the more 
tab, followed by settings.

Regards,
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Newsfeed preferences in Facebook

2016-06-11 Thread Deidre Muccio
I found finally found what I think I was looking for a called most recent and 
it was under favorites. Not where I would've expected to find it but there are 
it is. Or there it was. Hey, I can't find the place for newsfeed preferences 
that includes to select most recent posts. It seems year so ago I saw that when 
I hit on the more selection but I can't find it anywhere anymore on my iPhone. 
We are is it? Who knows?


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Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox

2016-06-11 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has arrived 
and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about half an hour, 
is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using the Bot.

In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt 
with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms, 
all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some have 
3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open, 
nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room until 
it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed to be 
heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little utility 
room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back through 3 
rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly, only banging 
its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its direct line to the 
docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song and sent me a message 
to my iPhone saying it was done! 

This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and has 
a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!!

Satisfied Sandy.
Hi,
Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:

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Re: facetime calling question

2016-06-11 Thread terrie arnold
Have  you thought of getting  the. App  Magic  Jack , as you can  creat a new  
number  for your phone  , it cost  nothing  and. You  can  use  your list  of. 
Contacts  to call. People , pick  the. Area  code  , etc 
 Hope. That. This  helps , as  you. Can get  voice  mail with this as  well

My thoughts for today

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> I have a very easy cell phone number that I want to keep for ever. So I'm 
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> your actual number and use your apple ID instead?
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Newsfeed preferences in Facebook

2016-06-11 Thread Deidre Muccio
Hey, I can't find the place for newsfeed preferences that includes to select 
most recent posts. It seems year so ago I saw that when I hit on the more 
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Re: Apple TV 4th Generation

2016-06-11 Thread christopher hallsworth
Yes that’s a good selling point for the both of us, plus Siri, the bluetooth 
Siri remote and the fact it can do more than the previous generations including 
Apple Music which we personally love. The most critical consideration to 
upgrade though is the lack of updates we third generation users are receiving 
despite Apple still producing the product. But we understand it is ancient 
hardware so an upgrade is the way to go.
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> Hi Chrism,
> 
> You can also pick what apps you want to install as it has itsown store.  I 
> would like to have one myself.  Perhaps when I am in a better situation i 
> will own one.  I think it will be a while though as I am  trying to move to 
> south Carelina and will have to see how things go.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
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>> Evening everyone.
>> 
>> Your owner and myself are investigating in the Apple TV 4th Generation. 
>> Apart from the book I’ve just bought from Mosen Consulting, “Apple TV 4th 
>> Generation with VoiceOver”, how are you personally finding it? One of the 
>> reasons we may be upgrading is the lack of security and bug fix updates in 
>> the Apple TV 3rd Generation and of course be up in the world . But 
>> one other somewhat mysterious reason is I’ve heard from the owner that it 
>> can change the source of an HD TV without one ever having to do it 
>> themselves. While we are no Apple engineers, we suspect it could be to do 
>> with our boxes. Any thoughts greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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