iBooks on the PC

[Danijela Popović]

Hi all,
I have a question about iBooks.
I've downloaded few books from the iTunes, but I'm wondering if there
is any way to read those books on my PC, in txt or any other format...

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Re: Bizarre Battery Issue

[kelby carlson]

Yes, it did not help.

On 2/1/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Have you tried my suggestion?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
>
> So I learned that you can tell if you have a battery problem if your standby
> and usage times are exactly the same. Mine are, so there's clearly something
> going on.
>
> On 1/31/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> As I said before, do a reset network settings, this can have amazing
>> effects on battery drain.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Kelby Carlson
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
>>
>> So, I'm still having this issue even after switching the apps off. I
>> left my phone on but didn't use it for about four hours and it lost 20
>> percent of its battery. It's only about three months old.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>> Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:09 am
>> Subject: RE: Bizarre Battery Issue
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Try a Reset Network Settings.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Kelby Carlson
>>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
>>>
>>> I don't, and when I checked the app switcher it showed it as active
>>> for some reason.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Richard Turner  
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>>> Date: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:26 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are
>>> > not using it?
>>> > If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
>>> > Richard
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson
>>> > > 
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > All,
>>> > >
>>> > > I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the
>>> > > last couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in
>>> > > the last
>>> > > 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by
>>> > > my mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it
>>> > > turned off; it also says that the app has only been on in the
>>> > > background for one minute. Any idea what's going on?
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RE: Bizarre Battery Issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you tried my suggestion?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue

So I learned that you can tell if you have a battery problem if your standby 
and usage times are exactly the same. Mine are, so there's clearly something 
going on.

On 1/31/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> As I said before, do a reset network settings, this can have amazing 
> effects on battery drain.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
>
> So, I'm still having this issue even after switching the apps off. I 
> left my phone on but didn't use it for about four hours and it lost 20 
> percent of its battery. It's only about three months old.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:09 am
> Subject: RE: Bizarre Battery Issue
>
>>
>>
>> Try a Reset Network Settings.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kelby Carlson
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
>>
>> I don't, and when I checked the app switcher it showed it as active 
>> for some reason.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner  
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>> Date: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:26 pm
>> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are 
>> > not using it?
>> > If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
>> > Richard
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson 
>> > > 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > All,
>> > >
>> > > I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the 
>> > > last couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in 
>> > > the last
>> > > 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by 
>> > > my mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it 
>> > > turned off; it also says that the app has only been on in the 
>> > > background for one minute. Any idea what's going on?
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Re: Bizarre Battery Issue

[kelby carlson]

So I learned that you can tell if you have a battery problem if your
standby and usage times are exactly the same. Mine are, so there's
clearly something going on.

On 1/31/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> As I said before, do a reset network settings, this can have amazing effects
> on battery drain.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
>
> So, I'm still having this issue even after switching the apps off. I left my
> phone on but didn't use it for about four hours and it lost 20 percent of
> its battery. It's only about three months old.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:09 am
> Subject: RE: Bizarre Battery Issue
>
>>
>>
>> Try a Reset Network Settings.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Kelby Carlson
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
>>
>> I don't, and when I checked the app switcher it showed it as active for
>> some reason.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner  
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
>> Date: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:26 pm
>> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not
>> > using it?
>> > If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
>> > Richard
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > All,
>> > >
>> > > I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the
>> > > last couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in
>> > > the last
>> > > 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by
>> > > my mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it
>> > > turned off; it also says that the app has only been on in the
>> > > background for one minute. Any idea what's going on?
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Re: help with keyboard command Vo Keys

[Ann Larson]

I assume the command key is next to the space bar. Don't know for sure since I 
don't have this particular keyboard, but the one I have where the control key 
is all the way to the left, the function key is between the control and option, 
and the commend key is to the right of option and left of the space bar. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> isn't it 'Command' key?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christina
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 7:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: help with keyboard command Vo Keys
> 
> Thanks! I may have figured out one thing. The far bottom left key seems to be 
> the control key. While the option key seems to be the third key from the 
> bottom left. I have no idea what they key inbetween the control and the 
> option key is. On my Mac the far bottom left key is the function key, then 
> the second key is the control key, and the third key from the bottom left is 
> the option. So, I thought I was pressing the control plus option, but I was 
> not. Now I have to figure out what that mysterious button inbetween control 
> and option is. *scratching my head*
> 
> Christina
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know that keyboard, but control and option are the keys for 
>> VoiceOver commands.
>> Did you try control+option+h to go to the home screen?
>> Or control+option+spacebar to activate an icon, app, etc.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Christina C.
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:53 PM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: help with keyboard command Vo Keys
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just purchased my first bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone. It’s a logitech 
>> K380 compact keyboard. It’s the size of a laptop keyboard. The description 
>> says it fully supports iOS. I thought control plus option were the VO keys 
>> to perform various tasks. All I get is a bonk when I try to use these keys 
>> with an arrow or anything else. Am I doing something wrong? I have a Mac and 
>> I am very familiar with using VO keys. I’d appreciate any info or help.
>> 
>> Thanks so much,
>> Christina
>> 
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RE: help with keyboard command Vo Keys

[Fazil]

isn't it 'Command' key?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: help with keyboard command Vo Keys

Thanks! I may have figured out one thing. The far bottom left key seems to be 
the control key. While the option key seems to be the third key from the bottom 
left. I have no idea what they key inbetween the control and the option key is. 
On my Mac the far bottom left key is the function key, then the second key is 
the control key, and the third key from the bottom left is the option. So, I 
thought I was pressing the control plus option, but I was not. Now I have to 
figure out what that mysterious button inbetween control and option is. 
*scratching my head*

Christina

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't know that keyboard, but control and option are the keys for VoiceOver 
> commands.
> Did you try control+option+h to go to the home screen?
> Or control+option+spacebar to activate an icon, app, etc.
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christina C.
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:53 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: help with keyboard command Vo Keys
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just purchased my first bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone. It’s a logitech 
> K380 compact keyboard. It’s the size of a laptop keyboard. The description 
> says it fully supports iOS. I thought control plus option were the VO keys to 
> perform various tasks. All I get is a bonk when I try to use these keys with 
> an arrow or anything else. Am I doing something wrong? I have a Mac and I am 
> very familiar with using VO keys. I’d appreciate any info or help.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> Christina
> 
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Re: help with keyboard command Vo Keys

[Ann Larson]

My guess is that it is the function key. On a keyboard that I have, this is the 
case. :) 

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> On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Christina  wrote:
> 
> Thanks! I may have figured out one thing. The far bottom left key seems to be 
> the control key. While the option key seems to be the third key from the 
> bottom left. I have no idea what they key inbetween the control and the 
> option key is. On my Mac the far bottom left key is the function key, then 
> the second key is the control key, and the third key from the bottom left is 
> the option. So, I thought I was pressing the control plus option, but I was 
> not. Now I have to figure out what that mysterious button inbetween control 
> and option is. *scratching my head*
> 
> Christina
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know that keyboard, but control and option are the keys for 
>> VoiceOver commands.
>> Did you try control+option+h to go to the home screen?
>> Or control+option+spacebar to activate an icon, app, etc.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Christina C.
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:53 PM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: help with keyboard command Vo Keys
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just purchased my first bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone. It’s a logitech 
>> K380 compact keyboard. It’s the size of a laptop keyboard. The description 
>> says it fully supports iOS. I thought control plus option were the VO keys 
>> to perform various tasks. All I get is a bonk when I try to use these keys 
>> with an arrow or anything else. Am I doing something wrong? I have a Mac and 
>> I am very familiar with using VO keys. I’d appreciate any info or help.
>> 
>> Thanks so much,
>> Christina
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Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

[Andy Baracco]

Keep in mind that the Voyager products are single ear pieces, and not 
headsets.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Kelby Carlson

Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

I would love to know of anything that easily fits in a pocket but £ has 
decent playtime. I know the Titaniums do.


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:24 pm
Subject: RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?




A friend recently showed me his Voyager Legend because I showed him my 
Voyager Edge and he was amazed by how small they are. When he handed me 
the Legend it was like somebody giving you a gallon jug of milk instead of 
a 1 Liter pack, they are positively huge compared to the Edge.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kelby carlson

Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

How does the portability of the Voyager compared to something like the 
Trekzz? Can you put the Voyager in your pocket easily? This is why I 
typically go for earbuds rather than a headset in that if I'm going out 
without a backpack it's tougher to take one.


On 1/31/17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it the same form factor and weight as previously? Thanks, Keith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>
> I have been using a voyager legend since 2013, and absolutely loved it.
> Recently my headset took a one way trip to the great electronics
> graveyard in the sky.
>
> I found that Plantronics released a newer version of the legend, the
> voyager
> 5200 series.  It is great.  Simeler to the Legend, but just better 
> designed.

>  It has better audio quality, and the microphones are better in the
> 5200 series over the legend.
>
>
> Juan Hernandez
> juanhernande...@gmail.com
> 619-750-9431 (M) |  858-777-3311 (F)
> My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>
> Actually, the Anker earbud has a hook that goes in your ear for
> stability; it has over-ear hooks as an option but I never use them. I
> may check out the Voyagers if I ever have need of a new set. The
> biggest issue with Anker is that they aren't the easiest to put in a
> pocket since the cord doesn't wrap easily.
>
> On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Certainly an attractive price and all Anker products I have seen are
>> very nice, but one thing I like about the Voyager Edge is how small
>> it is, for me at least it sticks in my ear without the need for a
>> loop that hooks over/behind my ear and it still doesn't even block
>> out a lot of outsound sounds.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of kelby carlson
>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>>
>> I bought a pair of Anker Soundbuds sport in-ear earbuds recently.
>> They come with several different earbud and ear hook sizes. There is
>> very, very little lag with Voiceover and the sound is quite good. The
>> playtime isn't great, but if you parcel it out carefully you can do a
>> lot with it. They retail for about $30, well worth it in my opinion.
>> I also purchased a bluetooth keyboard from them which works great.
>>
>> On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> I have tried a bunch of different bluetooth earpieces, stereo
>>> headsets and speakers, some expensive others not so and some with
>>> the latest bluetooth version and others with Bluetooth 2.1. I found
>>> that just because a device says it has Bluetooth 4.0 or 4.1 does not
>>> mean it is more responsive. One example was the Plantronics Backbeat
>>> Sense I think it was called. A rather expensive, very nice sounding
>>> stereo bluetooth headset. It has Bluetooth 4.0, but the lag was so
>>> bad that is was unuseable with Voiceover. My 5-year old first
>>> generation Outdoor Tech OT DJ Slims which aren't even available any
>>> more and which I received as a sample at a trade show (they retailed
>>> for around
>>> $50 for a stereo headset) use Bluetooth 2.1 and they are as
>>> responsive as it gets.
>>> The Voyager Edge I would classify also int hat category, as
>>> responsive as it gets because a bluetooth headset, earpiece or

Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

[Kelby Carlson]

I would love to know of anything that easily fits in a pocket but £ has decent 
playtime. I know the Titaniums do.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:24 pm
Subject: RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

>
>
> A friend recently showed me his Voyager Legend because I showed him my 
> Voyager Edge and he was amazed by how small they are. When he handed me the 
> Legend it was like somebody giving you a gallon jug of milk instead of a 1 
> Liter pack, they are positively huge compared to the Edge.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kelby carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
> 
> How does the portability of the Voyager compared to something like the 
> Trekzz? Can you put the Voyager in your pocket easily? This is why I 
> typically go for earbuds rather than a headset in that if I'm going out 
> without a backpack it's tougher to take one.
> 
> On 1/31/17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is it the same form factor and weight as previously? Thanks, Keith
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:48 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
> >
> > I have been using a voyager legend since 2013, and absolutely loved it.
> > Recently my headset took a one way trip to the great electronics 
> > graveyard in the sky.
> >
> > I found that Plantronics released a newer version of the legend, the 
> > voyager
> > 5200 series.  It is great.  Simeler to the Legend, but just better designed.
> >  It has better audio quality, and the microphones are better in the 
> > 5200 series over the legend.
> >
> >
> > Juan Hernandez
> > juanhernande...@gmail.com
> > 619-750-9431 (M) |  858-777-3311 (F)
> > My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of kelby carlson
> > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:26 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
> >
> > Actually, the Anker earbud has a hook that goes in your ear for 
> > stability; it has over-ear hooks as an option but I never use them. I 
> > may check out the Voyagers if I ever have need of a new set. The 
> > biggest issue with Anker is that they aren't the easiest to put in a 
> > pocket since the cord doesn't wrap easily.
> >
> > On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> >> Certainly an attractive price and all Anker products I have seen are 
> >> very nice, but one thing I like about the Voyager Edge is how small 
> >> it is, for me at least it sticks in my ear without the need for a 
> >> loop that hooks over/behind my ear and it still doesn't even block 
> >> out a lot of outsound sounds.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >> Behalf Of kelby carlson
> >> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:04 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
> >>
> >> I bought a pair of Anker Soundbuds sport in-ear earbuds recently. 
> >> They come with several different earbud and ear hook sizes. There is 
> >> very, very little lag with Voiceover and the sound is quite good. The 
> >> playtime isn't great, but if you parcel it out carefully you can do a 
> >> lot with it. They retail for about $30, well worth it in my opinion. 
> >> I also purchased a bluetooth keyboard from them which works great.
> >>
> >> On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> >>> I have tried a bunch of different bluetooth earpieces, stereo 
> >>> headsets and speakers, some expensive others not so and some with 
> >>> the latest bluetooth version and others with Bluetooth 2.1. I found 
> >>> that just because a device says it has Bluetooth 4.0 or 4.1 does not 
> >>> mean it is more responsive. One example was the Plantronics Backbeat 
> >>> Sense I think it was called. A rather expensive, very nice sounding 
> >>> stereo bluetooth headset. It has Bluetooth 4.0, but the lag was so 
> >>> bad that is was unuseable with Voiceover. My 5-year old first 
> >>> generation Outdoor Tech OT DJ Slims which aren't even available any 
> >>> more and which I received as a sample at a trade show (they retailed 
> >>> for around
> >>> $50 for a stereo headset) use Bluetooth 2.1 and they are as 
> >>> responsive as it gets.
> >>> The Voyager Edge I would classify also int hat category, as 
> >>> responsive as it gets because a bluetooth headset, earpiece or 
> >>> speaker without lag does not exist 

IPhone and quick Mac

[Jim Portillo]

Hello.  I'm having a new and rather weird issue with my iPhone.
Now, sometimes I use an iPhone Bluetooth keyboard with it, especially if I'm 
going to type long emails or documents. I know that when that happens, quick 
Mac gets turned either on or off.  Of course, I know how to toggle that as well.
Well, now, even if the keyboard is not turned on or connected, every time I go 
to an edit field, I keep getting that message of quick Mac being turned on/off. 
 It's as if there's always a keyboard on and connected, even though that's not 
the case.
I've tried resetting it, simply turning it off then on again, and actually 
using my keyboard and then making sure it's off.
Is there any way I can somehow turn this weird setting off?  Nothing seems to 
work, and I can't dictate or type on the virtual keyboard because of this.
Any help would be appreciated.

Jim
PS. Yes, I'm using my Bluetooth keyboard to type this. :-) 

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Re: help with keyboard command Vo Keys

[Christina]

Thanks! I may have figured out one thing. The far bottom left key seems to be 
the control key. While the option key seems to be the third key from the bottom 
left. I have no idea what they key inbetween the control and the option key is. 
On my Mac the far bottom left key is the function key, then the second key is 
the control key, and the third key from the bottom left is the option. So, I 
thought I was pressing the control plus option, but I was not. Now I have to 
figure out what that mysterious button inbetween control and option is. 
*scratching my head*

Christina

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't know that keyboard, but control and option are the keys for VoiceOver 
> commands.
> Did you try control+option+h to go to the home screen?
> Or control+option+spacebar to activate an icon, app, etc.
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christina C.
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:53 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: help with keyboard command Vo Keys
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just purchased my first bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone. It’s a logitech 
> K380 compact keyboard. It’s the size of a laptop keyboard. The description 
> says it fully supports iOS. I thought control plus option were the VO keys to 
> perform various tasks. All I get is a bonk when I try to use these keys with 
> an arrow or anything else. Am I doing something wrong? I have a Mac and I am 
> very familiar with using VO keys. I’d appreciate any info or help.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> Christina
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Downloading a YouTube file

[Mary Otten]

I want to use a small YouTube file in a place where I don't have a very good 
connection. It doesn't look like you can download a file from within the 
YouTube app. I am a YouTube read subscriber, but that doesn't seem to help. Is 
there anyway to easily download and then access on my iPhone a small YouTube 
file?
Mary


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RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

A friend recently showed me his Voyager Legend because I showed him my Voyager 
Edge and he was amazed by how small they are. When he handed me the Legend it 
was like somebody giving you a gallon jug of milk instead of a 1 Liter pack, 
they are positively huge compared to the Edge.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

How does the portability of the Voyager compared to something like the Trekzz? 
Can you put the Voyager in your pocket easily? This is why I typically go for 
earbuds rather than a headset in that if I'm going out without a backpack it's 
tougher to take one.

On 1/31/17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it the same form factor and weight as previously? Thanks, Keith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>
> I have been using a voyager legend since 2013, and absolutely loved it.
> Recently my headset took a one way trip to the great electronics 
> graveyard in the sky.
>
> I found that Plantronics released a newer version of the legend, the 
> voyager
> 5200 series.  It is great.  Simeler to the Legend, but just better designed.
>  It has better audio quality, and the microphones are better in the 
> 5200 series over the legend.
>
>
> Juan Hernandez
> juanhernande...@gmail.com
> 619-750-9431 (M) |  858-777-3311 (F)
> My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>
> Actually, the Anker earbud has a hook that goes in your ear for 
> stability; it has over-ear hooks as an option but I never use them. I 
> may check out the Voyagers if I ever have need of a new set. The 
> biggest issue with Anker is that they aren't the easiest to put in a 
> pocket since the cord doesn't wrap easily.
>
> On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Certainly an attractive price and all Anker products I have seen are 
>> very nice, but one thing I like about the Voyager Edge is how small 
>> it is, for me at least it sticks in my ear without the need for a 
>> loop that hooks over/behind my ear and it still doesn't even block 
>> out a lot of outsound sounds.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of kelby carlson
>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>>
>> I bought a pair of Anker Soundbuds sport in-ear earbuds recently. 
>> They come with several different earbud and ear hook sizes. There is 
>> very, very little lag with Voiceover and the sound is quite good. The 
>> playtime isn't great, but if you parcel it out carefully you can do a 
>> lot with it. They retail for about $30, well worth it in my opinion. 
>> I also purchased a bluetooth keyboard from them which works great.
>>
>> On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> I have tried a bunch of different bluetooth earpieces, stereo 
>>> headsets and speakers, some expensive others not so and some with 
>>> the latest bluetooth version and others with Bluetooth 2.1. I found 
>>> that just because a device says it has Bluetooth 4.0 or 4.1 does not 
>>> mean it is more responsive. One example was the Plantronics Backbeat 
>>> Sense I think it was called. A rather expensive, very nice sounding 
>>> stereo bluetooth headset. It has Bluetooth 4.0, but the lag was so 
>>> bad that is was unuseable with Voiceover. My 5-year old first 
>>> generation Outdoor Tech OT DJ Slims which aren't even available any 
>>> more and which I received as a sample at a trade show (they retailed 
>>> for around
>>> $50 for a stereo headset) use Bluetooth 2.1 and they are as 
>>> responsive as it gets.
>>> The Voyager Edge I would classify also int hat category, as 
>>> responsive as it gets because a bluetooth headset, earpiece or 
>>> speaker without lag does not exist at this point.
>>> When you turn them on the voice of the headset says the remaining 
>>> talk time (max is 6 hours) and then it will say "Phone 1 connected".
>>> I also have it paired to my Apple Watch, so it says "Phone 1 
>>> connected", then there is a beep and almost instantly it goes on to 
>>> say "Phone 2 Connected".
>>> Then in the status bar of the iPhone it says "Headphones connected"
>>> and if you swipe right once from there it will give you the battery 
>>> level, just checked and as the headset said "Talk time 5 

RE: Reviewing subscriptions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don’t think you can subscribe to Netflix or Spotify via the app store, you 
have to do it on their respective websites and in such cases of course the 
services will not be listed under Subscriptions on the app store since they 
have nothing to do with Apple. If a company offers a subscription as an in-app 
purchase they have to pay whatever percentage to Apple and since I think it is 
something like 30% many services don’t c hoose to do this.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reviewing subscriptions

Hello everyone,

I wanted to view my subscriptions. I thought I went the correct way to get the 
information. But now I am not so sure.

I went in to settings, and to ITunes and Apps. Then I entered on my ID.
Once i did this, I saw a subscriptions link. So of course, I entered on it.
However, all I see are my subscriptions I let expire, or no longer wanted. I 
can't seem to see anything else.
Perhaps I am looking in the wrong spot?
Could someone please help me out?

Thank you,

Terri
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RE: Bizarre Battery Issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As I said before, do a reset network settings, this can have amazing effects on 
battery drain.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelby Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue

So, I'm still having this issue even after switching the apps off. I left my 
phone on but didn't use it for about four hours and it lost 20 percent of its 
battery. It's only about three months old.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:09 am
Subject: RE: Bizarre Battery Issue

>
>
> Try a Reset Network Settings.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
> 
> I don't, and when I checked the app switcher it showed it as active for some 
> reason.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:26 pm
> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
> 
> >
> >
> > One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not 
> > using it?
> > If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > > On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > All,
> > > 
> > > I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the 
> > > last couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in 
> > > the last
> > > 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by 
> > > my mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it 
> > > turned off; it also says that the app has only been on in the 
> > > background for one minute. Any idea what's going on?
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Re: Battery Usage

[TaraPrakash]

Bad signals will consume more battery no matter whether your cell data is on or 
off. You may try to put a Sim card from Verizon for one day and see if the 
battery runs for a longer time. Apart from bad signals phone calls will be the 
worst consumers of battery. Keep the Low Power Mode on all the time maybe that 
will save you a lot of battery. 

Hth


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 6:38 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> So I'm checking my battery usage stats now, and it looks like I'm
> getting a lot of drain from no cell coverage even when I have data
> turned off. What's going on?
> 
>> On 1/31/17, Dave  wrote:
>> thanks for that.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: rajmund
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>> 
>> Hi,
>> If on 9.3, definitely worth waiting.
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dave" > To: > Date sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:42:36 -
>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>> 
>> i am still running 9.35, on my 6s.  is it still worth me waiting
>> for 10.3,
>> before updating?
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Deidre Muccio
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>> 
>> Yep, that is what I am  planning to do.  T
>> hanks.
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Richard Turner
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> The current version is 10.2.1, which fixed some VoiceOver
>> issues.
>> At this point, you may want to wait for 10.3 to come out.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf
>> Of Deidre Muccio
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 6.  I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> what version of the iPhone do you have?
>> 
>> Sent from Thunderbird
>> 
>> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
>> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest
>> phones came
>> out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple
>> days
>> depending on what applications you're using.  So today I was out
>> and for
>> about three hours I had location services on cellular data on
>> and I had
>> maps open.  So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that
>> period
>> time which I thought was a little excessive.  I had no other
>> applications
>> open.
>> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a
>> program so
>> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me.  Is this the
>> type of
>> battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps
>> when
>> they're driving a car with somebody and they have a location
>> tracking
>> on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
>> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my
>> phone a
>> lot! I rarely have anything open in the app switcher.  I usually
>> go to
>> two or three applications at a time him and not even for very
>> long.  I
>> also rather obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I
>> almost never
>> have location tracking on except when I want to check whether or
>> I'm
>> driving somewhere in the car with somebody.
>> 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you
>> are not
>> using it?
>> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over
>> the last
>> couple of days.  When I check to see the pattern of usage in the
>> last
>> 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by
>> my
>> mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it
>> turned off;
>> it also says that the app has only been on in the background for
>> one
>> minute.  Any idea what's going on?
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RE: help with keyboard command Vo Keys

[Richard Turner]

I don't know that keyboard, but control and option are the keys for VoiceOver 
commands.
Did you try control+option+h to go to the home screen?
Or control+option+spacebar to activate an icon, app, etc.

HTH,
Richard


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Christina C.
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:53 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: help with keyboard command Vo Keys

Hi all,

I just purchased my first bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone. It’s a logitech 
K380 compact keyboard. It’s the size of a laptop keyboard. The description says 
it fully supports iOS. I thought control plus option were the VO keys to 
perform various tasks. All I get is a bonk when I try to use these keys with an 
arrow or anything else. Am I doing something wrong? I have a Mac and I am very 
familiar with using VO keys. I’d appreciate any info or help.

Thanks so much,
Christina

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help with keyboard command Vo Keys

[Christina C.]

Hi all,

I just purchased my first bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone. It’s a logitech 
K380 compact keyboard. It’s the size of a laptop keyboard. The description says 
it fully supports iOS. I thought control plus option were the VO keys to 
perform various tasks. All I get is a bonk when I try to use these keys with an 
arrow or anything else. Am I doing something wrong? I have a Mac and I am very 
familiar with using VO keys. I’d appreciate any info or help.

Thanks so much,
Christina

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Re: Clock App Recommendation

[Connie Mohney]

Hello,
I went into google and typed:
Qoo app clock.
Here is the link I got.

 www.qooapps.com › apps
Hope this helps.  If it isn't the right thing their were other results in that 
search thread.
Connie
Sent from my iPod

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Mauricio Molina  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I have been a very happy user of the QOO app. With this app I am able to 
> schedule a chime every hour, at the top and bottom of the hour, or every 
> quarter hour. I can also schedule the chime for certain days of the week as 
> well as specific hours of the day. Perhaps my favorite feature of the app is 
> that rather than having a chime, it can be made to speak the time at the 
> intervals specified.
>  
> Okay, so here is the problem: I have recommended this app to another 
> individual and it was no longer available. Both I and the individual to whom 
> this app was recommended are using iPhones 6s with the most recent version of 
> the iOS. What I would like to ask is if anyone can search for the QOO app to 
> see if they have success, and if not, what similar apps are others on this 
> list using. The feature to speak rather than chime is especially appealing.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
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Please Join Me in Requesting That The New Explorer Feature, introduced in the Latest Version of the iOS Twitter App, Be Made VoiceOver Accessible

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

Recently, Twitter introduced a new Explore feature in its iOS mobile app.

In short, the new Explore feature encompasses Twitter Moments, allowing one
to easily track trending topics, search patterns, etc.  Succinctly put,
Twitter Moments has been folded into the new Explore feature.

In the latest version of Twitter Mobile for iOS, when VoiceOver is not
enabled, the Moments tab, located near the bottom of the display, has been
replaced by the Explore tab.  Activating this tab causes trending topics,
popular searches, Moments, etc to be displayed.  It's really quite exciting.

However, when VoiceOver is enabled, the display reverts back to the classic
Moments display leaving out all of this wonderful new information.  

Please join me in requesting that the Explore feature be made VoiceOver
accessible.  

The following is a short request that you are free to use in your feedback
to Twitter:

[REQUEST]
Subject:  Please Make The New Twitter Mobile for iOS Explore Feature
VoiceOver Accessible

Hello,

In the latest version of Twitter Mobile for iOS, the new Explore feature
cannot be accessed When VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solutions
for the blind and low vision, is enabled.  

When VoiceOver is enabled, only the Moments tab, located near the bottom of
the display, is available.  The new Explore feature is an extremely powerful
tool that should be accessible to everyone, including those of us who are
visually impaired.  

Thank you for considering my Request,
[END REQUEST]

Post your request in the App Store as a review, send a tweet to both
@support and @Twitter, and send your request to Twitter via email at
supp...@twitter.com.

Thank you for your support,

Mark


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RE: Neato app update mentions VoiceOver improvements, but this appears far from usable still

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I’m not entirely sure. I know that sometimes, after it has gotten stuck or I 
had to clear the brushe because an object got caught in it, I had to touch 
along the bottom edge of the screen, which is parallel to the flat edge of the 
bot.

Never, and I mean NEVER, touch to the right side of the screen, as there are 3 
touch sensitive locations there that interact with whatever message is on the 
screen, but the actions of these touch sensitive areas are context dependent  
based upon what is on the screen. I’ve gotten stuck for days as well in the 
language area.

Another option might be to open the the collection receptacle, power off the 
device for a minute or 2, and then power on again. Pressing and holding the 
Home button for 15 seconds will reinitiate the device and reconnect to your 
WiFi. I use this a lot.

Hope this is helpful. Good luck. Others may be able to help more clearly.

Keith

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bpabbo...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Neato app update mentions VoiceOver improvements, but this appears 
far from usable still

hi all. Thank you Keith for the information on the update.

I have a quick question. If you get an error message and you fix the error how 
do you then restart the bot vac. What I have had to do was tap on the screen 
and then press the home key because pressing the home key by itself did not 
work. I ended up in another language and it took me over a week to get it back 
in English and depending on three different sighted people before we figured it 
out.

Any help on that score would be greatly appreciated.

I think I'll try the update.

Sent from Bäry Abbott's  iPhone

On Jan 31, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:
Hi,

New Neato app update today mentions VoiceOver improvements, but to my review it 
appears to still be a long way from usable.

Some features are now announced when flicking through the bot options, but I 
noticed that selections of Home, Spot, or Manual do not indicate Selected when 
tapped upon. And, it seems some buttons do not activate.

Please be cautious in updating if you have an older accessible version of their 
app.

At least there’s been some initial efforts made. I’ll be contacting them and I 
hope others will too about the work that remains.

Keith
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Clock App Recommendation

[Mauricio Molina]

Hi All, 

 

I have been a very happy user of the QOO app. With this app I am able to
schedule a chime every hour, at the top and bottom of the hour, or every
quarter hour. I can also schedule the chime for certain days of the week as
well as specific hours of the day. Perhaps my favorite feature of the app is
that rather than having a chime, it can be made to speak the time at the
intervals specified. 

 

Okay, so here is the problem: I have recommended this app to another
individual and it was no longer available. Both I and the individual to whom
this app was recommended are using iPhones 6s with the most recent version
of the iOS. What I would like to ask is if anyone can search for the QOO app
to see if they have success, and if not, what similar apps are others on
this list using. The feature to speak rather than chime is especially
appealing. 

 

Thanks, 

 

Mauricio

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Re: Neato app update mentions VoiceOver improvements, but this appears far from usable still

[bpabbott9]

hi all. Thank you Keith for the information on the update.

I have a quick question. If you get an error message and you fix the error how 
do you then restart the bot vac. What I have had to do was tap on the screen 
and then press the home key because pressing the home key by itself did not 
work. I ended up in another language and it took me over a week to get it back 
in English and depending on three different sighted people before we figured it 
out.

Any help on that score would be greatly appreciated.

I think I'll try the update.

Sent from Bäry Abbott's  iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> New Neato app update today mentions VoiceOver improvements, but to my review 
> it appears to still be a long way from usable.
>  
> Some features are now announced when flicking through the bot options, but I 
> noticed that selections of Home, Spot, or Manual do not indicate Selected 
> when tapped upon. And, it seems some buttons do not activate.
>  
> Please be cautious in updating if you have an older accessible version of 
> their app.
>  
> At least there’s been some initial efforts made. I’ll be contacting them and 
> I hope others will too about the work that remains.
>  
> Keith
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RE: Battery Usage

[Richard Turner]

I've had the exact opposite experience.
I'd say they have the best customer service around.
I hope someone on the list can help you.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Usage

I have done that already. An I absolutely refused to call Apple
accessibility. They have never once been able to help me solve a
problem; in fact, Apple has some of the worst customer support I've
ever experienced. I also don't have time to go into an Apple store.

On 1/31/17, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> It sounds like it is time to call Apple Accessibility or go into an Apple
> Store and see if they can figure out what is happening.
> You could also search the web for tips to save battery life and go through
> all the settings to see if something is running in the background that you
> don't want.
> Richard
>
>
>
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>
> Sent with my iPod Touch 6)
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:38 PM, kelby carlson
> > wrote:
>
> So I'm checking my battery usage stats now, and it looks like I'm
> getting a lot of drain from no cell coverage even when I have data
> turned off. What's going on?
>
> On 1/31/17, Dave
> > wrote:
> thanks for that.
>
> Dave.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rajmund
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> Hi,
> If on 9.3, definitely worth waiting.
>
> Sent from a BrailleNote
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave" 
> To: 
> Date sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:42:36 -
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> i am still running 9.35, on my 6s.  is it still worth me waiting
> for 10.3,
> before updating?
>
> Dave.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> Yep, that is what I am  planning to do.  T
> hanks.
>
> Deidre
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Richard Turner
> 
> wrote:
>
> The current version is 10.2.1, which fixed some VoiceOver
> issues.
> At this point, you may want to wait for 10.3 to come out.
> Richard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> I have an iPhone 6.  I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.
>
> Deidre
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund
> >
> wrote:
>
> hi,
> what version of the iPhone do you have?
>
> Sent from Thunderbird
>
> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest
> phones came
> out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple
> days
> depending on what applications you're using.  So today I was out
> and for
> about three hours I had location services on cellular data on
> and I had
> maps open.  So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that
> period
> time which I thought was a little excessive.  I had no other
> applications
> open.
> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a
> program so
> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me.  Is this the
> type of
> battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps
> when
> they're driving a car with somebody and they have a location
> tracking
> on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my
> phone a
> lot! I rarely have anything open in the app switcher.  I usually
> go to
> two or three applications at a time him and not even for very
> long.  I
> also rather obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I
> almost never
> have location tracking on except when I want to check whether or
> I'm
> driving somewhere in the car with somebody.
>
>
> Deidre
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner
> > wrote:
>
>
> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you
> are not
> using it?
> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
> Richard
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson
> 
> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I've been experiening a lot faster drop in 

Re: Battery Usage

[kelby carlson]

I have called them four or five times with issues. Each time I was
forced to spend over two hours on the phone, and none of the times
resulted in the problem being solved. I have more luck emailing this
list.

On 1/31/17, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
> I probably have not called Apple Accessibility in a good nine months or so,
> but each time I did they were very committed to solving my problem, and each
> time they did.
>
>
> Deidre
>
>
>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 7:12 PM, kelby carlson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have done that already. An I absolutely refused to call Apple
>> accessibility. They have never once been able to help me solve a
>> problem; in fact, Apple has some of the worst customer support I've
>> ever experienced. I also don't have time to go into an Apple store.
>>
>>> On 1/31/17, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>
>>> It sounds like it is time to call Apple Accessibility or go into an
>>> Apple
>>> Store and see if they can figure out what is happening.
>>> You could also search the web for tips to save battery life and go
>>> through
>>> all the settings to see if something is running in the background that
>>> you
>>> don't want.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
>>> - Satsuki Shibuya
>>>
>>> Sent with my iPod Touch 6)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:38 PM, kelby carlson
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> So I'm checking my battery usage stats now, and it looks like I'm
>>> getting a lot of drain from no cell coverage even when I have data
>>> turned off. What's going on?
>>>
>>> On 1/31/17, Dave
>>> > wrote:
>>> thanks for that.
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: rajmund
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> If on 9.3, definitely worth waiting.
>>>
>>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Dave"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Date sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:42:36 -
>>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>>>
>>> i am still running 9.35, on my 6s.  is it still worth me waiting
>>> for 10.3,
>>> before updating?
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Deidre Muccio
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>>>
>>> Yep, that is what I am  planning to do.  T
>>> hanks.
>>>
>>> Deidre
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Richard Turner
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The current version is 10.2.1, which fixed some VoiceOver
>>> issues.
>>> At this point, you may want to wait for 10.3 to come out.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>> On Behalf
>>> Of Deidre Muccio
>>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:52 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>>>
>>> I have an iPhone 6.  I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.
>>>
>>> Deidre
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi,
>>> what version of the iPhone do you have?
>>>
>>> Sent from Thunderbird
>>>
>>> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
>>> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest
>>> phones came
>>> out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple
>>> days
>>> depending on what applications you're using.  So today I was out
>>> and for
>>> about three hours I had location services on cellular data on
>>> and I had
>>> maps open.  So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that
>>> period
>>> time which I thought was a little excessive.  I had no other
>>> applications
>>> open.
>>> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a
>>> program so
>>> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me.  Is this the
>>> type of
>>> battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps
>>> when
>>> they're driving a car with somebody and they have a location
>>> tracking
>>> on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
>>> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my
>>> phone a
>>> lot! I rarely have anything open in the app switcher.  I usually
>>> go to
>>> two or three applications at a time him and not even for very
>>> long.  I
>>> also rather obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I
>>> almost never
>>> have location tracking on except when I want to check whether or
>>> I'm
>>> driving somewhere in the car 

Re: Battery Usage

[Deidre Muccio]

I probably have not called Apple Accessibility in a good nine months or so, but 
each time I did they were very committed to solving my problem, and each time 
they did.


Deidre


> On Jan 31, 2017, at 7:12 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> I have done that already. An I absolutely refused to call Apple
> accessibility. They have never once been able to help me solve a
> problem; in fact, Apple has some of the worst customer support I've
> ever experienced. I also don't have time to go into an Apple store.
> 
>> On 1/31/17, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds like it is time to call Apple Accessibility or go into an Apple
>> Store and see if they can figure out what is happening.
>> You could also search the web for tips to save battery life and go through
>> all the settings to see if something is running in the background that you
>> don't want.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
>> - Satsuki Shibuya
>> 
>> Sent with my iPod Touch 6)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:38 PM, kelby carlson
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> So I'm checking my battery usage stats now, and it looks like I'm
>> getting a lot of drain from no cell coverage even when I have data
>> turned off. What's going on?
>> 
>> On 1/31/17, Dave
>> > wrote:
>> thanks for that.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: rajmund
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>> 
>> Hi,
>> If on 9.3, definitely worth waiting.
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dave" 
>> To: 
>> Date sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:42:36 -
>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>> 
>> i am still running 9.35, on my 6s.  is it still worth me waiting
>> for 10.3,
>> before updating?
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Deidre Muccio
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>> 
>> Yep, that is what I am  planning to do.  T
>> hanks.
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Richard Turner
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The current version is 10.2.1, which fixed some VoiceOver
>> issues.
>> At this point, you may want to wait for 10.3 to come out.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf
>> Of Deidre Muccio
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>> 
>> I have an iPhone 6.  I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund
>> >
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> what version of the iPhone do you have?
>> 
>> Sent from Thunderbird
>> 
>> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
>> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest
>> phones came
>> out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple
>> days
>> depending on what applications you're using.  So today I was out
>> and for
>> about three hours I had location services on cellular data on
>> and I had
>> maps open.  So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that
>> period
>> time which I thought was a little excessive.  I had no other
>> applications
>> open.
>> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a
>> program so
>> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me.  Is this the
>> type of
>> battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps
>> when
>> they're driving a car with somebody and they have a location
>> tracking
>> on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
>> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my
>> phone a
>> lot! I rarely have anything open in the app switcher.  I usually
>> go to
>> two or three applications at a time him and not even for very
>> long.  I
>> also rather obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I
>> almost never
>> have location tracking on except when I want to check whether or
>> I'm
>> driving somewhere in the car with somebody.
>> 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you
>> are not
>> using it?
>> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson
>> 

Re: Battery Usage

[kelby carlson]

I have done that already. An I absolutely refused to call Apple
accessibility. They have never once been able to help me solve a
problem; in fact, Apple has some of the worst customer support I've
ever experienced. I also don't have time to go into an Apple store.

On 1/31/17, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> It sounds like it is time to call Apple Accessibility or go into an Apple
> Store and see if they can figure out what is happening.
> You could also search the web for tips to save battery life and go through
> all the settings to see if something is running in the background that you
> don't want.
> Richard
>
>
>
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>
> Sent with my iPod Touch 6)
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:38 PM, kelby carlson
> > wrote:
>
> So I'm checking my battery usage stats now, and it looks like I'm
> getting a lot of drain from no cell coverage even when I have data
> turned off. What's going on?
>
> On 1/31/17, Dave
> > wrote:
> thanks for that.
>
> Dave.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rajmund
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> Hi,
> If on 9.3, definitely worth waiting.
>
> Sent from a BrailleNote
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave" 
> To: 
> Date sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:42:36 -
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> i am still running 9.35, on my 6s.  is it still worth me waiting
> for 10.3,
> before updating?
>
> Dave.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> Yep, that is what I am  planning to do.  T
> hanks.
>
> Deidre
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Richard Turner
> 
> wrote:
>
> The current version is 10.2.1, which fixed some VoiceOver
> issues.
> At this point, you may want to wait for 10.3 to come out.
> Richard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> I have an iPhone 6.  I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.
>
> Deidre
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund
> >
> wrote:
>
> hi,
> what version of the iPhone do you have?
>
> Sent from Thunderbird
>
> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest
> phones came
> out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple
> days
> depending on what applications you're using.  So today I was out
> and for
> about three hours I had location services on cellular data on
> and I had
> maps open.  So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that
> period
> time which I thought was a little excessive.  I had no other
> applications
> open.
> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a
> program so
> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me.  Is this the
> type of
> battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps
> when
> they're driving a car with somebody and they have a location
> tracking
> on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my
> phone a
> lot! I rarely have anything open in the app switcher.  I usually
> go to
> two or three applications at a time him and not even for very
> long.  I
> also rather obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I
> almost never
> have location tracking on except when I want to check whether or
> I'm
> driving somewhere in the car with somebody.
>
>
> Deidre
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner
> > wrote:
>
>
> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you
> are not
> using it?
> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
> Richard
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson
> 
> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over
> the last
> couple of days.  When I check to see the pattern of usage in the
> last
> 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by
> my
> mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it
> turned off;
> it also says that the app has only been on in the background for
> one
> minute.  Any idea what's going on?
>
> 

Re: Battery Usage

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like it is time to call Apple Accessibility or go into an Apple Store 
and see if they can figure out what is happening.
You could also search the web for tips to save battery life and go through all 
the settings to see if something is running in the background that you don't 
want.
Richard



“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya

Sent with my iPod Touch 6)



On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:38 PM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:

So I'm checking my battery usage stats now, and it looks like I'm
getting a lot of drain from no cell coverage even when I have data
turned off. What's going on?

On 1/31/17, Dave > 
wrote:
thanks for that.

Dave.

-Original Message-
From: rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Usage

Hi,
If on 9.3, definitely worth waiting.

Sent from a BrailleNote


- Original Message -
From: "Dave" 
To: 
Date sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:42:36 -
Subject: Re: Battery Usage

i am still running 9.35, on my 6s.  is it still worth me waiting
for 10.3,
before updating?

Dave.

-Original Message-
From: Deidre Muccio
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Usage

Yep, that is what I am  planning to do.  T
hanks.

Deidre


On Jan 30, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Richard Turner

wrote:

The current version is 10.2.1, which fixed some VoiceOver
issues.
At this point, you may want to wait for 10.3 to come out.
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf
Of Deidre Muccio
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Usage

I have an iPhone 6.  I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.

Deidre


On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund 
>
wrote:

hi,
what version of the iPhone do you have?

Sent from Thunderbird

On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest
phones came
out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple
days
depending on what applications you're using.  So today I was out
and for
about three hours I had location services on cellular data on
and I had
maps open.  So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that
period
time which I thought was a little excessive.  I had no other
applications
open.
Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a
program so
essential for many doesn't seem so great to me.  Is this the
type of
battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps
when
they're driving a car with somebody and they have a location
tracking
on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my
phone a
lot! I rarely have anything open in the app switcher.  I usually
go to
two or three applications at a time him and not even for very
long.  I
also rather obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I
almost never
have location tracking on except when I want to check whether or
I'm
driving somewhere in the car with somebody.


Deidre


On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner
> wrote:


One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you
are not
using it?
If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
Richard


On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson

wrote:

All,

I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over
the last
couple of days.  When I check to see the pattern of usage in the
last
24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by
my
mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it
turned off;
it also says that the app has only been on in the background for
one
minute.  Any idea what's going on?

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Re: Ulysses was Re: Text editing/word processing

[Richard Turner]

To say an app is straight forward is hard, since it depends on how detailed you 
want to be. The manual is very good and learning the mark down symbols, for me, 
was pretty easy.
If you want a bulleted list, you simply put a hyphen before each item.
To get the document on dropbox, you would then select the export button at the 
top of the screen.
Double tap on export to external location. Double tap on the format, say rtf, 
then double tap on dropbox. Then you will be able to pick the folder on dropbox 
you want.
Then hit the upload or done button, I can't quite remember what it is called, 
but it will be pretty clear at that point.
You can easily have different heading levels, like heading level 1, 2, 3, etc.
You simply put a number sign at the beginning of the line. If you want heading 
level 2, use two number signs, etc.
It is worth taking the time to really learn the features. It deals with 
selecting text much the same as Voice Dream Reader. Plus, if you have purchased 
voices for Voice Dream Reader, they work in Writer.
Pages gets a low rating because it is such a pain to use.
At least, in my opinion.
I hope that helps.
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On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Christina C. 
> wrote:

Hey there,

If you don't mind can you please tell me, especially from a blindness/voiceover 
user's perspective as to why you chose or prefer ulysses over Scrivner. 
Currently, I am trying to decide which word processor I want to invest the time 
to learn as well as the money in.

Also, is it easy to spell check and to format the document with voiceover with 
Ulysses on the iPhone?

Thanks so much,
Christina

.
On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Michael Feir 
> wrote:

Ulysses


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Re: Ulysses was Re: Text editing/word processing

[Michael Feir]

Scrivener didn't seem to let me enter apostrophes. It kept giving a short
beep whenever I tried. Also, I found it tricky to import all the files I
wanted to from Dropbox. I love the basic philosophy behind Scrivener but I
just didn't have the experience I thought I would. I've had a much smoother
experience with Ulysses. I'm learning more of the markdown language as I
need to. So far, it has the formatting commands I require. Basic formatting
like centering and such is quite simple. I've written lettres and exported
them as HTML, text and other formats. I haven't done footnotes but there is
a command to add them when needed. You may want to check out the FAQ at:
ulyssesapp.com/faq
It should be possible to get the user guide as well. Lots of helpful info
on their site for Mac and iOS. I did read that they can't offer student
discounts or anything like that so you'd be paying full price as I
understand it. however, the seem to be simple text commands for adding lots
of things including images.
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:27 PM Christina C. 
wrote:

> Hey there,
>
> If you don’t mind can you please tell me, especially from a
> blindness/voiceover user’s perspective as to why you chose or prefer
> ulysses over Scrivner. Currently, I am trying to decide which word
> processor I want to invest the time to learn as well as the money in.
>
> Also, is it easy to spell check and to format the document with voiceover
> with Ulysses on the iPhone?
>
> Thanks so much,
> Christina
>
> .
>
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> Ulysses
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Getting notifications from Facebook about Facebook live mentions?

[Lelia Struve]

Hi everyone, first of all I'd like to say thank you for all the help that you 
have given me with my questions, secondly, I wonder if there is a way to get 
notifications when somebody is doing a Facebook live mentioned? For example, 
let's just say I liked Joel Rosenberg's page, and I know he is going to do a 
live mention or I don't know if he's going to either way, is there a way to get 
notified when they're doing a live mention like you can with Periscope? Thanks.

Lelia 

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on screen keypad

[Marie Lyons]

When I’m on a call and need to select a number the keypad keeps disappearing. I 
have the iPhone 7 with the last 10.1…  I am not sure what the number is. Any 
thoughts?

Marie Lyons

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Re: Battery Usage

[kelby carlson]

So I'm checking my battery usage stats now, and it looks like I'm
getting a lot of drain from no cell coverage even when I have data
turned off. What's going on?

On 1/31/17, Dave  wrote:
> thanks for that.
>
> Dave.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rajmund
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> Hi,
> If on 9.3, definitely worth waiting.
>
> Sent from a BrailleNote
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave"  To:  Date sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:42:36 -
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> i am still running 9.35, on my 6s.  is it still worth me waiting
> for 10.3,
> before updating?
>
> Dave.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> Yep, that is what I am  planning to do.  T
> hanks.
>
> Deidre
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Richard Turner
>  wrote:
>
> The current version is 10.2.1, which fixed some VoiceOver
> issues.
> At this point, you may want to wait for 10.3 to come out.
> Richard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
>
> I have an iPhone 6.  I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.
>
> Deidre
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund 
> wrote:
>
> hi,
> what version of the iPhone do you have?
>
> Sent from Thunderbird
>
> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest
> phones came
> out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple
> days
> depending on what applications you're using.  So today I was out
> and for
> about three hours I had location services on cellular data on
> and I had
> maps open.  So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that
> period
> time which I thought was a little excessive.  I had no other
> applications
> open.
> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a
> program so
> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me.  Is this the
> type of
> battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps
> when
> they're driving a car with somebody and they have a location
> tracking
> on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my
> phone a
> lot! I rarely have anything open in the app switcher.  I usually
> go to
> two or three applications at a time him and not even for very
> long.  I
> also rather obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I
> almost never
> have location tracking on except when I want to check whether or
> I'm
> driving somewhere in the car with somebody.
>
>
> Deidre
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner
>  wrote:
>
>
> One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you
> are not
> using it?
> If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
> Richard
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson
>  wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over
> the last
> couple of days.  When I check to see the pattern of usage in the
> last
> 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by
> my
> mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it
> turned off;
> it also says that the app has only been on in the background for
> one
> minute.  Any idea what's going on?
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Ulysses was Re: Text editing/word processing

[Christina C.]

Hey there,

If you don’t mind can you please tell me, especially from a blindness/voiceover 
user’s perspective as to why you chose or prefer ulysses over Scrivner. 
Currently, I am trying to decide which word processor I want to invest the time 
to learn as well as the money in. 

Also, is it easy to spell check and to format the document with voiceover with 
Ulysses on the iPhone?

Thanks so much,
Christina

.
> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> Ulysses

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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Mary Otten]

Well, after further experimentation, I really don't know what is going on. It 
has actually worked once or twice to put me at the bottom where I wanted to be 
with the foreign-language channels. Other times, no dice. I have no idea why 
this might be. It's very weird.
Mary


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> On Jan 31, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hello, my experience is flicking left from the first bottom tab, brings me to 
> that 999 channel.  Actually, now there’s some 1995 service check channel.
> 
> This flick left from the bottom row of tabs is working whether I have all 
> channels showing or if I narrow the list to my favorites.
> 
> I agree though, I wish there was something as seamless and consistent as the 
> tap in the status bar.  I use that gesture often.  Frankly, the four-finger 
> single tap towards the bottom is always annoying.  Lol!
> 
> Good luck to you.  I hope you can get it to work.
> 
> Traci
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> I have started my phone in the recent past. I am running the beta. But this 
>> problem did not  start with the beta. I think it was around in 10.2. I would 
>> be curious what other TV guide users are experiencing. And if there are any 
>> beta folks who want to talk about beta, of course it can't be on the list, 
>> so please write me privately.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> That’s correct, when I flick left, I land on channel 999, which is a 
>>> Comcast employee channel or something.
>>> It is on row something like 570.
>>> When you flick left from “Listings” It should scroll to the bottom.
>>> Have you by chance restarted your phone?
>>> VO is not performing correctly in this case for you.
>>> 
 On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi Paul,
 When I am in the listings tab and I flick left, I get the last listing on 
 the first screen of channels. But since I am subscribed to a satellite 
 thing, DirecTV, there are hundreds of rose. And I wanted to go down to the 
 very end, because that's where the foreign-language programming is. 
 Eventually, I will go through and make favorites and my list will be 
 shorter. But it will still be several screens of channels, and I would 
 like to have a way to get to the end quickly. so are you saying that when 
 you flick left, let's say you have to hundred channels, you end up at 
 channel 200? Or I should say Road 200 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> So I just tried to reproduce your problem. I didn’t realize that the list 
> had the tabs across the bottom. From within the “Listings” tab, I focus 
> on the Listings button, and flick left and my focus is now at the bottom 
> of the listing of channels. I’m not sure why this is not working for you. 
> What behavior are you getting when you flick left from the listings 
> button?
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just 
>> goes to the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the 
>> whole business, like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the 
>> status bar and you're taking back from wherever you are up to the very 
>> top of the entire screen or list or webpage or whatever. We need 
>> something like that to get to the bottom of a great long list like what 
>> happens when you're looking at the TV Guide app with a whole bunch of 
>> channels.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, 
>>> and this should take focus to the bottom of the list.
>>> Take care.
>>> 
 On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get 
 you to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In 
 order to get to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up 
 in the status bar, and it works every time like a charm. However, for 
 getting to the list bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with 
 forefingers does nothing. A double tap wants to call up some kind of 
 help thing. So, for instance, in the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 
 lines in the list, how do I get to the bottom without having to scroll 
 all that way which is absurd?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent 

Re: Text editing/word processing

[Michael Feir]

I'd say Wordbook compares quite nicely to Wordweb. For some reason, Wordweb
got harder to use for me on iOS. It's a great app and I'd be happy to learn
it was back to being fully useable.  It was great on Windows too. Wordbook
gives comparable definitions.

There have been times when Ulysses has gone on sale of been given away.
That happened quite a bit in the NANO Wrimo month which they helped
sponsor.  It certainly is a pricy app but I don't regrette my purchase. It
has met all my needs so splendidly that I may never write anything
substantial on my laptop again.

I'm very surprised that Pages isn't free on both Mac and iOS. I wonder why
that is. I do remember that it used to cost around $20 on iOS  years ago.

Agile Tortoise made an app called Drafts which might also be worth your
checking out. I don't know if it's available on Mac but I know it can tie
into Dropbox. Hope you find a writing solution which works well for you.
It's damned nice to leave my laptop behind and still be able to get
everything done on my iPHONE and a Bluetooth keyboard.
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Neato app update mentions VoiceOver improvements, but this appears far from usable still

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

New Neato app update today mentions VoiceOver improvements, but to my review it 
appears to still be a long way from usable.

Some features are now announced when flicking through the bot options, but I 
noticed that selections of Home, Spot, or Manual do not indicate Selected when 
tapped upon. And, it seems some buttons do not activate.

Please be cautious in updating if you have an older accessible version of their 
app.

At least there's been some initial efforts made. I'll be contacting them and I 
hope others will too about the work that remains.

Keith

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Re: Voiceover gestures for going to the bottom of the list in a big long scroll area

[Traci Duncan]

Hello, my experience is flicking left from the first bottom tab, brings me to 
that 999 channel.  Actually, now there’s some 1995 service check channel.

This flick left from the bottom row of tabs is working whether I have all 
channels showing or if I narrow the list to my favorites.

I agree though, I wish there was something as seamless and consistent as the 
tap in the status bar.  I use that gesture often.  Frankly, the four-finger 
single tap towards the bottom is always annoying.  Lol!

Good luck to you.  I hope you can get it to work.

Traci

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> I have started my phone in the recent past. I am running the beta. But this 
> problem did not  start with the beta. I think it was around in 10.2. I would 
> be curious what other TV guide users are experiencing. And if there are any 
> beta folks who want to talk about beta, of course it can't be on the list, so 
> please write me privately.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> That’s correct, when I flick left, I land on channel 999, which is a Comcast 
>> employee channel or something.
>> It is on row something like 570.
>> When you flick left from “Listings” It should scroll to the bottom.
>> Have you by chance restarted your phone?
>> VO is not performing correctly in this case for you.
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Paul,
>>> When I am in the listings tab and I flick left, I get the last listing on 
>>> the first screen of channels. But since I am subscribed to a satellite 
>>> thing, DirecTV, there are hundreds of rose. And I wanted to go down to the 
>>> very end, because that's where the foreign-language programming is. 
>>> Eventually, I will go through and make favorites and my list will be 
>>> shorter. But it will still be several screens of channels, and I would like 
>>> to have a way to get to the end quickly. so are you saying that when you 
>>> flick left, let's say you have to hundred channels, you end up at channel 
>>> 200? Or I should say Road 200 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 29, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 So I just tried to reproduce your problem. I didn’t realize that the list 
 had the tabs across the bottom. From within the “Listings” tab, I focus on 
 the Listings button, and flick left and my focus is now at the bottom of 
 the listing of channels. I’m not sure why this is not working for you. 
 What behavior are you getting when you flick left from the listings button?
 
> On Jan 28, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> OK. I guess what I want doesn't exist. That for finger single tap just 
> goes to the bottom of the screen. I want to go to the bottom of the whole 
> business, like what happens when you do a single finger tap in the status 
> bar and you're taking back from wherever you are up to the very top of 
> the entire screen or list or webpage or whatever. We need something like 
> that to get to the bottom of a great long list like what happens when 
> you're looking at the TV Guide app with a whole bunch of channels.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> you want to do a 4 finger single tap on the bottom half of the screen, 
>> and this should take focus to the bottom of the list.
>> Take care.
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I think there is something to do with a four finger tap to get 
>>> you to the top or the bottom of a big long list. I never use it. In 
>>> order to get to the top, I always double tap with a single finger up in 
>>> the status bar, and it works every time like a charm. However, for 
>>> getting to the list bottom, how do you do that? A single tap with 
>>> forefingers does nothing. A double tap wants to call up some kind of 
>>> help thing. So, for instance, in the TV Guide app, where I have 1200 
>>> lines in the list, how do I get to the bottom without having to scroll 
>>> all that way which is absurd?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Text editing/word processing

[Traci Duncan]

Thank you everyone for the suggestions.  I have a few follow up questions.

Word Book sounds cool.  How would you compare it to WordWeb?  That’s the app 
I’ve been using for years.

Ulysses is $19.99 in IOS App store and $44.99 in Mac App Store.  Am I 
understanding correctly, if you wanted both it would be the combined price?  
The Mac $44.99 doesn’t include the iOS app?

I also looked up Pages.  It will be free for my iPhone, but not my Mac.  I am 
very surprised to see a 2-1/2 star rating in the Mac store.  Wonder what people 
don’t like about it.  Of course the appeal to purchasing native Apple apps, is 
they should stick around and remain accessible.

Is Voice Dream Writer pretty straight forward?  Let’s say I want to quickly 
write a list of donation items.  I then want that to sink up with Dropbox, so I 
can add or modify the list later on my Mac.  Also, did I read I can export in 
RTF?  Are there sharing options, like share to social media?

On my Mac, I use I-Text-Express.  Those documents are all in RTF.

Thank you,
Traci


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> I really like Voice Dream Writer. It also uses mark down language. It is 
> designed for the blind, so extremely user friendly.
> It is worth the $9.99.
> Richard
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Re: Celular Data Question

[rajmund]

hi,
no, you're not using data, unless it says, for instance, 4g. this is 
just your carrier, and signal strength. it's normal.


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On 31/01/17 9:30 PM, kelby carlson wrote:

All,

To avoid maximizing my data, I've started having cellular data in
settings turned off most of the time. What's weird is that I'm still
seeing "t-mobile network" and the number of signal bars in the status
bar on my phone. Is this normal or am I still using data somehow?



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Re: Celular Data Question

[Andy Baracco]

i think that pertains to your signal strength for voice calls.
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: kelby carlson

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Subject: Celular Data Question

All,

To avoid maximizing my data, I've started having cellular data in
settings turned off most of the time. What's weird is that I'm still
seeing "t-mobile network" and the number of signal bars in the status
bar on my phone. Is this normal or am I still using data somehow?

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Re: Celular Data Question

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How yes, that is correct. If you don't believe me, turn off yourself data, go 
out of range of your Wi-Fi, and then tried to do something Internet related.
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> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:41 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> To clarify, even though that information still appears the phone won't
> e using data?
> 
> On 1/31/17, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> Hello, no this is normal. When you are honor network or 3G depending on if
>> you have LT on or not. The T-Mobile network thing is the cellular network
>> you're using. And the signal strength bars, or how good the coverage is in
>> your area for cellular calls. I hope this explains everything you asked.
>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:30 PM, kelby carlson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> To avoid maximizing my data, I've started having cellular data in
>>> settings turned off most of the time. What's weird is that I'm still
>>> seeing "t-mobile network" and the number of signal bars in the status
>>> bar on my phone. Is this normal or am I still using data somehow?
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Re: Celular Data Question

[kelby carlson]

To clarify, even though that information still appears the phone won't
e using data?

On 1/31/17, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> Hello, no this is normal. When you are honor network or 3G depending on if
> you have LT on or not. The T-Mobile network thing is the cellular network
> you're using. And the signal strength bars, or how good the coverage is in
> your area for cellular calls. I hope this explains everything you asked.
>
>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:30 PM, kelby carlson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> To avoid maximizing my data, I've started having cellular data in
>> settings turned off most of the time. What's weird is that I'm still
>> seeing "t-mobile network" and the number of signal bars in the status
>> bar on my phone. Is this normal or am I still using data somehow?
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Re: Question about the Nook ap

[Mike Arrigo]

I think it's a bug in the app, I have the same issue, double tapping on 
the button that goes to the contents or library does not work. At this 
point, you can try turning voice over off and tapping in that area but 
that's the only way I can think of to work around this at the moment, 
other than uninstalling and reinstalling the app which is annoying to 
say the least.

Original message:

Is anyone using the Nook ap who hopefully can answer a question? I just 
finished a book and want to get back to my list of books and delete 
that particular book. The ap seems to be stuck in Book Page even though 
it says I’m at the end of the book and I can’t seem to get it to go 
anywhere else. I’ve tried all the gestures I can think of. Suggestions?



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Re: Celular Data Question

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello, no this is normal. When you are honor network or 3G depending on if you 
have LT on or not. The T-Mobile network thing is the cellular network you're 
using. And the signal strength bars, or how good the coverage is in your area 
for cellular calls. I hope this explains everything you asked.

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:30 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
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> All,
> 
> To avoid maximizing my data, I've started having cellular data in
> settings turned off most of the time. What's weird is that I'm still
> seeing "t-mobile network" and the number of signal bars in the status
> bar on my phone. Is this normal or am I still using data somehow?
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Celular Data Question

[kelby carlson]

All,

To avoid maximizing my data, I've started having cellular data in
settings turned off most of the time. What's weird is that I'm still
seeing "t-mobile network" and the number of signal bars in the status
bar on my phone. Is this normal or am I still using data somehow?

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Re: Text editing/word processing

[Richard Turner]

I really like Voice Dream Writer. It also uses mark down language. It is 
designed for the blind, so extremely user friendly.
It is worth the $9.99.
Richard



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On Jan 31, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Michael Feir 
> wrote:

The company who produced Wordbook is called TranCreative Software. Agile 
Tortoise  produces the Terminology app and other apps which have attracted 
attention from blind users. Hope that gets you on the right path. Should have 
included that information in my initial message.
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Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

[kelby carlson]

How does the portability of the Voyager compared to something like the
Trekzz? Can you put the Voyager in your pocket easily? This is why I
typically go for earbuds rather than a headset in that if I'm going
out without a backpack it's tougher to take one.

On 1/31/17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it the same form factor and weight as previously? Thanks, Keith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Juan Hernandez
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>
> I have been using a voyager legend since 2013, and absolutely loved it.
> Recently my headset took a one way trip to the great electronics graveyard
> in the sky.
>
> I found that Plantronics released a newer version of the legend, the voyager
> 5200 series.  It is great.  Simeler to the Legend, but just better designed.
>  It has better audio quality, and the microphones are better in the 5200
> series over the legend.
>
>
> Juan Hernandez
> juanhernande...@gmail.com
> 619-750-9431 (M) |  858-777-3311 (F)
> My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>
> Actually, the Anker earbud has a hook that goes in your ear for stability;
> it has over-ear hooks as an option but I never use them. I may check out the
> Voyagers if I ever have need of a new set. The biggest issue with Anker is
> that they aren't the easiest to put in a pocket since the cord doesn't wrap
> easily.
>
> On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Certainly an attractive price and all Anker products I have seen are
>> very nice, but one thing I like about the Voyager Edge is how small it
>> is, for me at least it sticks in my ear without the need for a loop
>> that hooks over/behind my ear and it still doesn't even block out a
>> lot of outsound sounds.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of kelby carlson
>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>>
>> I bought a pair of Anker Soundbuds sport in-ear earbuds recently. They
>> come with several different earbud and ear hook sizes. There is very,
>> very little lag with Voiceover and the sound is quite good. The
>> playtime isn't great, but if you parcel it out carefully you can do a
>> lot with it. They retail for about $30, well worth it in my opinion. I
>> also purchased a bluetooth keyboard from them which works great.
>>
>> On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> I have tried a bunch of different bluetooth earpieces, stereo
>>> headsets and speakers, some expensive others not so and some with the
>>> latest bluetooth version and others with Bluetooth 2.1. I found that
>>> just because a device says it has Bluetooth 4.0 or 4.1 does not mean
>>> it is more responsive. One example was the Plantronics Backbeat Sense
>>> I think it was called. A rather expensive, very nice sounding stereo
>>> bluetooth headset. It has Bluetooth 4.0, but the lag was so bad that
>>> is was unuseable with Voiceover. My 5-year old first generation
>>> Outdoor Tech OT DJ Slims which aren't even available any more and
>>> which I received as a sample at a trade show (they retailed for
>>> around
>>> $50 for a stereo headset) use Bluetooth 2.1 and they are as
>>> responsive as it gets.
>>> The Voyager Edge I would classify also int hat category, as
>>> responsive as it gets because a bluetooth headset, earpiece or
>>> speaker without lag does not exist at this point.
>>> When you turn them on the voice of the headset says the remaining
>>> talk time (max is 6 hours) and then it will say "Phone 1 connected".
>>> I also have it paired to my Apple Watch, so it says "Phone 1
>>> connected", then there is a beep and almost instantly it goes on to
>>> say "Phone 2 Connected".
>>> Then in the status bar of the iPhone it says "Headphones connected"
>>> and if you swipe right once from there it will give you the battery
>>> level, just checked and as the headset said "Talk time 5 hours" the
>>> status line display says "Bluetooth battery 81%".
>>> It works beautifully with my iPhone and Apple Watch, the switching is
>>> very quick and if I am, for example, listening to a book on my phone
>>> and a notification comes in on the watch I get the sound in the
>>> headset, the book pauses at that point and a cople of seconds later
>>> it resumes playing the book.
>>> The headset also senses if it's in your ear, if  you are playing a
>>> book or music it will pause when you take it out of your ear and
>>> resume when you put it back and it 

Question about the Nook ap

[Denise Colley]

Is anyone using the Nook ap who hopefully can answer a question?  I just
finished a book and want to get back to my list of books and delete that
particular book.  The ap seems to be stuck in Book Page even though it says
I'm at the end of the book and I can't seem to get it to go anywhere else.
I've tried all the gestures I can think of.  Suggestions?

 

Denise

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RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Is it the same form factor and weight as previously? Thanks, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juan Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

I have been using a voyager legend since 2013, and absolutely loved it.  
Recently my headset took a one way trip to the great electronics graveyard in 
the sky.

I found that Plantronics released a newer version of the legend, the voyager 
5200 series.  It is great.  Simeler to the Legend, but just better designed.  
It has better audio quality, and the microphones are better in the 5200 series 
over the legend.
 

Juan Hernandez
juanhernande...@gmail.com
619-750-9431 (M) |  858-777-3311 (F)
My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

Actually, the Anker earbud has a hook that goes in your ear for stability; it 
has over-ear hooks as an option but I never use them. I may check out the 
Voyagers if I ever have need of a new set. The biggest issue with Anker is that 
they aren't the easiest to put in a pocket since the cord doesn't wrap easily.

On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Certainly an attractive price and all Anker products I have seen are 
> very nice, but one thing I like about the Voyager Edge is how small it 
> is, for me at least it sticks in my ear without the need for a loop 
> that hooks over/behind my ear and it still doesn't even block out a 
> lot of outsound sounds.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>
> I bought a pair of Anker Soundbuds sport in-ear earbuds recently. They 
> come with several different earbud and ear hook sizes. There is very, 
> very little lag with Voiceover and the sound is quite good. The 
> playtime isn't great, but if you parcel it out carefully you can do a 
> lot with it. They retail for about $30, well worth it in my opinion. I 
> also purchased a bluetooth keyboard from them which works great.
>
> On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> I have tried a bunch of different bluetooth earpieces, stereo 
>> headsets and speakers, some expensive others not so and some with the 
>> latest bluetooth version and others with Bluetooth 2.1. I found that 
>> just because a device says it has Bluetooth 4.0 or 4.1 does not mean 
>> it is more responsive. One example was the Plantronics Backbeat Sense 
>> I think it was called. A rather expensive, very nice sounding stereo 
>> bluetooth headset. It has Bluetooth 4.0, but the lag was so bad that 
>> is was unuseable with Voiceover. My 5-year old first generation 
>> Outdoor Tech OT DJ Slims which aren't even available any more and 
>> which I received as a sample at a trade show (they retailed for 
>> around
>> $50 for a stereo headset) use Bluetooth 2.1 and they are as 
>> responsive as it gets.
>> The Voyager Edge I would classify also int hat category, as 
>> responsive as it gets because a bluetooth headset, earpiece or 
>> speaker without lag does not exist at this point.
>> When you turn them on the voice of the headset says the remaining 
>> talk time (max is 6 hours) and then it will say "Phone 1 connected". 
>> I also have it paired to my Apple Watch, so it says "Phone 1 
>> connected", then there is a beep and almost instantly it goes on to 
>> say "Phone 2 Connected".
>> Then in the status bar of the iPhone it says "Headphones connected"
>> and if you swipe right once from there it will give you the battery 
>> level, just checked and as the headset said "Talk time 5 hours" the 
>> status line display says "Bluetooth battery 81%".
>> It works beautifully with my iPhone and Apple Watch, the switching is 
>> very quick and if I am, for example, listening to a book on my phone 
>> and a notification comes in on the watch I get the sound in the 
>> headset, the book pauses at that point and a cople of seconds later 
>> it resumes playing the book.
>> The headset also senses if it's in your ear, if  you are playing a 
>> book or music it will pause when you take it out of your ear and 
>> resume when you put it back and it has voice commands for when a 
>> phone call comes in, all I have to say is "Answer" and it will pick 
>> up the call without me ever touching the earpiece.
>> You can invoke SIRI and push and hold the little button on the boom 
>> for play/pause.
>> Currently I think this is a much better option than the Airpods, yes, 
>> it is an earpiece and not stereo earbuds, but it apparently works so 
>> much better 

RE: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

[Juan Hernandez]

I have been using a voyager legend since 2013, and absolutely loved it.  
Recently my headset took a one way trip to the great electronics graveyard in 
the sky.

I found that Plantronics released a newer version of the legend, the voyager 
5200 series.  It is great.  Simeler to the Legend, but just better designed.  
It has better audio quality, and the microphones are better in the 5200 series 
over the legend.
 

Juan Hernandez
juanhernande...@gmail.com
619-750-9431 (M) |  858-777-3311 (F)
My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?

Actually, the Anker earbud has a hook that goes in your ear for stability; it 
has over-ear hooks as an option but I never use them. I may check out the 
Voyagers if I ever have need of a new set. The biggest issue with Anker is that 
they aren't the easiest to put in a pocket since the cord doesn't wrap easily.

On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Certainly an attractive price and all Anker products I have seen are 
> very nice, but one thing I like about the Voyager Edge is how small it 
> is, for me at least it sticks in my ear without the need for a loop 
> that hooks over/behind my ear and it still doesn't even block out a 
> lot of outsound sounds.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: bluetooth earbud recommendations?
>
> I bought a pair of Anker Soundbuds sport in-ear earbuds recently. They 
> come with several different earbud and ear hook sizes. There is very, 
> very little lag with Voiceover and the sound is quite good. The 
> playtime isn't great, but if you parcel it out carefully you can do a 
> lot with it. They retail for about $30, well worth it in my opinion. I 
> also purchased a bluetooth keyboard from them which works great.
>
> On 1/27/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> I have tried a bunch of different bluetooth earpieces, stereo 
>> headsets and speakers, some expensive others not so and some with the 
>> latest bluetooth version and others with Bluetooth 2.1. I found that 
>> just because a device says it has Bluetooth 4.0 or 4.1 does not mean 
>> it is more responsive. One example was the Plantronics Backbeat Sense 
>> I think it was called. A rather expensive, very nice sounding stereo 
>> bluetooth headset. It has Bluetooth 4.0, but the lag was so bad that 
>> is was unuseable with Voiceover. My 5-year old first generation 
>> Outdoor Tech OT DJ Slims which aren't even available any more and 
>> which I received as a sample at a trade show (they retailed for 
>> around
>> $50 for a stereo headset) use Bluetooth 2.1 and they are as 
>> responsive as it gets.
>> The Voyager Edge I would classify also int hat category, as 
>> responsive as it gets because a bluetooth headset, earpiece or 
>> speaker without lag does not exist at this point.
>> When you turn them on the voice of the headset says the remaining 
>> talk time (max is 6 hours) and then it will say "Phone 1 connected". 
>> I also have it paired to my Apple Watch, so it says "Phone 1 
>> connected", then there is a beep and almost instantly it goes on to 
>> say "Phone 2 Connected".
>> Then in the status bar of the iPhone it says "Headphones connected"
>> and if you swipe right once from there it will give you the battery 
>> level, just checked and as the headset said "Talk time 5 hours" the 
>> status line display says "Bluetooth battery 81%".
>> It works beautifully with my iPhone and Apple Watch, the switching is 
>> very quick and if I am, for example, listening to a book on my phone 
>> and a notification comes in on the watch I get the sound in the 
>> headset, the book pauses at that point and a cople of seconds later 
>> it resumes playing the book.
>> The headset also senses if it's in your ear, if  you are playing a 
>> book or music it will pause when you take it out of your ear and 
>> resume when you put it back and it has voice commands for when a 
>> phone call comes in, all I have to say is "Answer" and it will pick 
>> up the call without me ever touching the earpiece.
>> You can invoke SIRI and push and hold the little button on the boom 
>> for play/pause.
>> Currently I think this is a much better option than the Airpods, yes, 
>> it is an earpiece and not stereo earbuds, but it apparently works so 
>> much better with Voiceover on an iPhone and Apple watch together. I 
>> tried out the Airpods and they sound awesome, they are super small 
>> and light and I'd love to have a pair, but until you can control 
>> volume and have play/pause and forward/rewind capability via touch 
>> controls on the Airpods I won't spend 

Re: Reviewing subscriptions

[christopher hallsworth]

No it wouldn't. Try signing out of your Apple ID and signing back in.
> On 31 Jan 2017, at 19:40, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello Christopher, and list,
> 
> No, that's the odd thing, I currently do have some subscriptions. Such as 
> Netflix, and Spotify.
> Now, they are on my Ipad, and not my Iphone. But would this make a difference?
> I wouldn't think so. But maybe I am incorrect?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 1:20 PM -0600, "christopher hallsworth" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi no that is the correct place to view subscriptions maybe you don't have 
> any active at the moment? If so double tap on the subscription and choose the 
> appropriate option(s) to resubscribe.
> > On 31 Jan 2017, at 17:44, Terri Stimmel 
>  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I wanted to view my subscriptions. I thought I went the correct way to get 
> > the information. But now I am not so sure.
> > 
> > I went in to settings, and to ITunes and Apps. Then I entered on my ID.
> > Once i did this, I saw a subscriptions link. So of course, I entered on it.
> > However, all I see are my subscriptions I let expire, or no longer wanted. 
> > I can't seem to see anything else.
> > Perhaps I am looking in the wrong spot?
> > Could someone please help me out?
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Terri
> > 
> > Get Outlook for iOS
> > 
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Re: Reviewing subscriptions

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Christopher, and list,

No, that's the odd thing, I currently do have some subscriptions. Such as 
Netflix, and Spotify.
Now, they are on my Ipad, and not my Iphone. But would this make a difference?
I wouldn't think so. But maybe I am incorrect?

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Text editing/word processing

[Michael Feir]

The company who produced Wordbook is called TranCreative Software. Agile
Tortoise  produces the Terminology app and other apps which have attracted
attention from blind users. Hope that gets you on the right path. Should
have included that information in my initial message.
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Re: Reviewing subscriptions

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Re: What can the AppleyTV do for me that the iPhone can't?

[christopher hallsworth]

Well, some apps are more accessible on Apple TV than their equivalents on iOS. 
The reverse is also true so your mileage may vary.


> On 31 Jan 2017, at 18:42, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
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> Hi,
>  
> I have an AppleTV 4th gen and like it very much. I mostly use it for watching 
> audio described movies with sighted family members. Mostly, when it’s just 
> me, I use the iPhone.
>  
> Am I missing out on some accessibility and or  content that the Apple TV 
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> mileage out of the Apple TV.
>  
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RE: Text editing/word processing

[Joe Thibault]

Hi Michael,

WordBook sounds interesting, but when I searched for it I found two apps from 
different developers with the same name. What is the developer for the one you 
are recommending? 

Thanks,

Joe Thibault

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text editing/word processing

 

Hello. I recommend Ulysses. It's fully accessible now. Since Apple figured out 
how to improve text selection, I haven't found any good reason to use Voice 
Dream Writer. It's easy to select, cut and paste chunks of text in Pages or 
other mainstream writing apps. Proof-reading is quite possible using the 
built-in spellchecker in iOS. Ulysses is expensive but I use it all the time. 
It's great for keeping stuff organised and writing long documents like the iOS 
guide I'm working on for blind people. I can have a sepearte sheet for each 
major section and rearrange them at will. I can also cut and paste minor 
sections withinn a sheet. Ulysses uses markdown language for formatting so you 
can always know what's going on since the Markdown characters are all text 
symbols.

There's always Pages which is free from Apple and Microsoft Word which is free 
from Microsoft. Both are quite useable. For a good accessible 
dictionary/thesaurus app, I suggest Wordbook. It does the job rather nicely. 
There's also another great one called Terminology. Both apps will work even 
when offline so you'll never be without some assistance finding the right word. 
Haven't found any satisfactory offline encyclopedias but the Wikipedia Mobile 
app is great provided you're online. I've heard they have some agreement with 
carriers so that it doesn't even cost you cellular data to look up things on 
there. And of course, the Google app is a good addition to anybody's home 
screens. Its voice search can often out-do Siri.

 

You might also want to look at another app called Scrivener. It was designed 
with authors in mind and is a close competitor. To Ulysses I prefer Ulysses 
overall but it comes down to personal taste and overall approach. Hope that 
helps you out a bit. 

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:23 AM Jennie Facer  > wrote:

Hi Tracy,

VoiceDream Writer costs $9.99, but it is so worth it. You can spellcheck and 
proofread your documents. I'm not sure if it syncs up with DropBox, but it does 
sync with iCloud so whenever you edit a document, it is automatically updated. 
Also when you create the document, and name iot, you don't have to save. It is 
really an awesome app

Jenn!

Sent from Jennie Facer's iPad Pro!

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> Hi all, OK, so a few of my abs are becoming obsolete. I've learned that 
> nebulous is ending, and apparently draft pad ended quite a while ago.
>
> I am looking for a new text editor/word processor. Any recommendations? All 
> the better if it can link up with dropbox. Oh, and no subscription-based apps.
>
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> Traci
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Re: Bizarre Battery Issue

[Kelby Carlson]

So, I'm still having this issue even after switching the apps off. I left my 
phone on but didn't use it for about four hours and it lost 20 percent of its 
battery. It's only about three months old.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
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Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:09 am
Subject: RE: Bizarre Battery Issue

>
>
> Try a Reset Network Settings.
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 12:37 PM
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> I don't, and when I checked the app switcher it showed it as active for some 
> reason.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:26 pm
> Subject: Re: Bizarre Battery Issue
> 
> >
> >
> > One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not 
> > using it?
> > If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
> > Richard
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> > 
> > > On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  
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> > > All,
> > > 
> > > I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the 
> > > last couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the 
> > > last
> > > 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my 
> > > mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned 
> > > off; it also says that the app has only been on in the background 
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RE: bug in the accessibility of apple tv 4

[Larry Lumpkin]

The keyboards that pair automaticly work fine.  It’s just the ones that request 
a pairing code.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kliphton Miller
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bug in the accessibility of apple tv 4

 

Neither of those bugs happen to me.  With pairing of a bt keyboard, it doesn’t 
send me a pairing request, it just pairs, and when done it says “keyboard 
connected”. As for the other bug, I just turn my rotter to words or characters, 
and that seems to take care of reading what is in focus.

On Jan 31, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Larry Lumpkin  > wrote:

 

I have discovered a bug in TVOS accessibility for apple tv 4.  It manifests 
itself in two areas that I know of:

 

1.  If you are attempting to pair a blue tooth keyboard that is sent a pairing 
code request by the system, voice over won’t read the pairing code though it is 
displayed on the screen.

 

2.  If you are attempting to read all the items in the about dialog under 
settings, voice over won’t focus on many of them, only one item is readable 
most of the time.

 

I confirmed this with an apple support person and he was able to duplicate 
these with the latest TVOS and my apple wireless keyboard model.  He called 
this morning and said that the engineers had reported others confirming this 
bug.  If any of you are having this difficulty, be sure to report it to apple 
accessibility.

 

 

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What can the AppleyTV do for me that the iPhone can't?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I have an AppleTV 4th gen and like it very much. I mostly use it for watching 
audio described movies with sighted family members. Mostly, when it's just me, 
I use the iPhone.

Am I missing out on some accessibility and or  content that the Apple TV offers 
but that the iPhone doesn't? I'm just wondering if I could get more mileage out 
of the Apple TV.

Thanks, Keith

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Re: Text editing/word processing

[Alan Lemly]

I don't have Ulysses but I thought I'd mention it costs $24.99. It does have an 
extensive feature set but does much more than I would ever do when writing with 
my iPhone. I prefer to do the heavy lifting with my computer. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Jan 31, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Michael Feir  wrote:
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> Voice Dream Writer. It's easy to select, cut and paste chunks of text in 
> Pages or other mainstream writing apps. Proof-reading is quite possible using 
> the built-in spellchecker in iOS. Ulysses is expensive but I use it all the 
> time. It's great for keeping stuff organised and writing long documents like 
> the iOS guide I'm working on for blind people. I can have a sepearte sheet 
> for each major section and rearrange them at will. I can also cut and paste 
> minor sections withinn a sheet. Ulysses uses markdown language for formatting 
> so you can always know what's going on since the Markdown characters are all 
> text symbols.
> There's always Pages which is free from Apple and Microsoft Word which is 
> free from Microsoft. Both are quite useable. For a good accessible 
> dictionary/thesaurus app, I suggest Wordbook. It does the job rather nicely. 
> There's also another great one called Terminology. Both apps will work even 
> when offline so you'll never be without some assistance finding the right 
> word. Haven't found any satisfactory offline encyclopedias but the Wikipedia 
> Mobile app is great provided you're online. I've heard they have some 
> agreement with carriers so that it doesn't even cost you cellular data to 
> look up things on there. And of course, the Google app is a good addition to 
> anybody's home screens. Its voice search can often out-do Siri.
> 
> You might also want to look at another app called Scrivener. It was designed 
> with authors in mind and is a close competitor. To Ulysses I prefer Ulysses 
> overall but it comes down to personal taste and overall approach. Hope that 
> helps you out a bit. 
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:23 AM Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> Hi Tracy,
>> 
>> VoiceDream Writer costs $9.99, but it is so worth it. You can spellcheck and 
>> proofread your documents. I'm not sure if it syncs up with DropBox, but it 
>> does sync with iCloud so whenever you edit a document, it is automatically 
>> updated. Also when you create the document, and name iot, you don't have to 
>> save. It is really an awesome app
>> 
>> Jenn!
>> 
>> Sent from Jennie Facer's iPad Pro!
>> 
>> > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all, OK, so a few of my abs are becoming obsolete. I've learned that 
>> > nebulous is ending, and apparently draft pad ended quite a while ago.
>> >
>> > I am looking for a new text editor/word processor. Any recommendations? 
>> > All the better if it can link up with dropbox. Oh, and no 
>> > subscription-based apps.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Traci
>> >
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Re: bug in the accessibility of apple tv 4

[Kliphton Miller]

Neither of those bugs happen to me.  With pairing of a bt keyboard, it doesn’t 
send me a pairing request, it just pairs, and when done it says “keyboard 
connected”. As for the other bug, I just turn my rotter to words or characters, 
and that seems to take care of reading what is in focus.
> On Jan 31, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> I have discovered a bug in TVOS accessibility for apple tv 4.  It manifests 
> itself in two areas that I know of:
>  
> 1.  If you are attempting to pair a blue tooth keyboard that is sent a 
> pairing code request by the system, voice over won’t read the pairing code 
> though it is displayed on the screen.
>  
> 2.  If you are attempting to read all the items in the about dialog under 
> settings, voice over won’t focus on many of them, only one item is readable 
> most of the time.
>  
> I confirmed this with an apple support person and he was able to duplicate 
> these with the latest TVOS and my apple wireless keyboard model.  He called 
> this morning and said that the engineers had reported others confirming this 
> bug.  If any of you are having this difficulty, be sure to report it to apple 
> accessibility.
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Reviewing subscriptions

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

I wanted to view my subscriptions. I thought I went the correct way to get the 
information. But now I am not so sure.

I went in to settings, and to ITunes and Apps. Then I entered on my ID.
Once i did this, I saw a subscriptions link. So of course, I entered on it.
However, all I see are my subscriptions I let expire, or no longer wanted. I 
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Perhaps I am looking in the wrong spot?
Could someone please help me out?

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bug in the accessibility of apple tv 4

[Larry Lumpkin]

I have discovered a bug in TVOS accessibility for apple tv 4.  It manifests
itself in two areas that I know of:

 

1.  If you are attempting to pair a blue tooth keyboard that is sent a
pairing code request by the system, voice over won't read the pairing code
though it is displayed on the screen.

 

2.  If you are attempting to read all the items in the about dialog under
settings, voice over won't focus on many of them, only one item is readable
most of the time.

 

I confirmed this with an apple support person and he was able to duplicate
these with the latest TVOS and my apple wireless keyboard model.  He called
this morning and said that the engineers had reported others confirming this
bug.  If any of you are having this difficulty, be sure to report it to
apple accessibility.

 

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Re: Text editing/word processing

[Michael Feir]

Hello. I recommend Ulysses. It's fully accessible now. Since Apple figured
out how to improve text selection, I haven't found any good reason to use
Voice Dream Writer. It's easy to select, cut and paste chunks of text in
Pages or other mainstream writing apps. Proof-reading is quite possible
using the built-in spellchecker in iOS. Ulysses is expensive but I use it
all the time. It's great for keeping stuff organised and writing long
documents like the iOS guide I'm working on for blind people. I can have a
sepearte sheet for each major section and rearrange them at will. I can
also cut and paste minor sections withinn a sheet. Ulysses uses markdown
language for formatting so you can always know what's going on since the
Markdown characters are all text symbols.
There's always Pages which is free from Apple and Microsoft Word which is
free from Microsoft. Both are quite useable. For a good accessible
dictionary/thesaurus app, I suggest Wordbook. It does the job rather
nicely. There's also another great one called Terminology. Both apps will
work even when offline so you'll never be without some assistance finding
the right word. Haven't found any satisfactory offline encyclopedias but
the Wikipedia Mobile app is great provided you're online. I've heard they
have some agreement with carriers so that it doesn't even cost you cellular
data to look up things on there. And of course, the Google app is a good
addition to anybody's home screens. Its voice search can often out-do Siri.

You might also want to look at another app called Scrivener. It was
designed with authors in mind and is a close competitor. To Ulysses I
prefer Ulysses overall but it comes down to personal taste and overall
approach. Hope that helps you out a bit.
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:23 AM Jennie Facer 
wrote:

> Hi Tracy,
>
> VoiceDream Writer costs $9.99, but it is so worth it. You can spellcheck
> and proofread your documents. I'm not sure if it syncs up with DropBox, but
> it does sync with iCloud so whenever you edit a document, it is
> automatically updated. Also when you create the document, and name iot, you
> don't have to save. It is really an awesome app
>
> Jenn!
>
> Sent from Jennie Facer's iPad Pro!
>
> > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all, OK, so a few of my abs are becoming obsolete. I've learned that
> nebulous is ending, and apparently draft pad ended quite a while ago.
> >
> > I am looking for a new text editor/word processor. Any recommendations?
> All the better if it can link up with dropbox. Oh, and no
> subscription-based apps.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Traci
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Text editing/word processing

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Tracy,

VoiceDream Writer costs $9.99, but it is so worth it. You can spellcheck and 
proofread your documents. I'm not sure if it syncs up with DropBox, but it does 
sync with iCloud so whenever you edit a document, it is automatically updated. 
Also when you create the document, and name iot, you don't have to save. It is 
really an awesome app

Jenn!

Sent from Jennie Facer's iPad Pro!

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, OK, so a few of my abs are becoming obsolete. I've learned that 
> nebulous is ending, and apparently draft pad ended quite a while ago.
> 
> I am looking for a new text editor/word processor. Any recommendations? All 
> the better if it can link up with dropbox. Oh, and no subscription-based apps.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Text editing/word processing

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, OK, so a few of my abs are becoming obsolete. I've learned that 
nebulous is ending, and apparently draft pad ended quite a while ago.

I am looking for a new text editor/word processor. Any recommendations? All the 
better if it can link up with dropbox. Oh, and no subscription-based apps.

Thank you,
Traci

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am sure you could copy an entire Word document and then paste it into the 
Word app on the iPhone, but whether it would preserve the formatting is another 
question. Why not just use OneDrive, save your document to OneDrive on the PC 
and it is instantly available to the Word app on your iPhone.

Regards,
SieghardI doubt

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Rash
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

With Snippets, can you copy word documents to be read using word on the iPhone?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

Hi Sieghard,

Zero tap stopped working for me a while back after one of my iOS upgrades so I 
started using snippets since I use this functionality all the time. I never 
found zero tap as useful for copying text from the iPhone to the computer and 
snippets handles this well too.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2017, at 11:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
You probably refer to the Windows 10 application called the “Snipping Tool” 
which is different.
There is also the app called Zero Tap, haven’t used it in a while, but I think 
it it still works.
On the PC you just put a shortcut on the desktop to the Zerotap website, you 
can sign in and tell it to remember your user name and password, then write or 
paste your text in the text box on the PC and as soon as you open Zero Tap on 
the iPhone the text will be copied to the pasteboard, you can go to any app and 
paste it in.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

Isn’t that app included with Windows 10 now at least saw one named like it; 
but, might be a different name as would have to check.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:


Thanks a bunch!



I had completely forgotten about this app.



Now using it and it works great.



Don



On 28-Jan-17 9:54 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
I use an app called Snippets by Notable Group to copy data between my Windows 7 
computer and my iPhone 7. This app used to be named Text sync and uses a 
dedicated web page where you can copy data into a text box for pasting between 
the two.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Don Breda 
> wrote:

Hi listers.



I used to use a windows program called easy push and its iphone ap called 
UbiDisc.



The iPhone app is now to old.



this set of programs I could use to copy text from the clicpboard on my windows 
pc to my iPhone.



Any suggestions for a current set of programs to easily do this?



Thanks in advance.



Don


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Re: some home button questions on the iphone 7

[Jed Barton]

ah i've noticed that haha.  That's what i kind of figured.

On 1/31/2017 1:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Press the home button with a finger that you didn't register with Touch Id or 
use the power button on the side to wake up your phone. On the newer iPhones 
Touch Id is so good and fast that if you press the home button with the finger 
you registered it usually just unlocks you rphone.


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Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: some home button questions on the iphone 7

Hey guys,

I had a question on the home button.  On my iphone 6, when i would press the 
home button, it would allow me to swipe through my most recent notifications 
that came in, and if i wanted to unlock it, i would hold my fignerprint.  The 
iphone 7 doesn't seem to be doing that, it seems that when i press the home 
button it just opens up.  I have a finger print setup.  Am i missing something?

Cheers,
Jed

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RE: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

[Tom Rash]

With Snippets, can you copy word documents to be read using word on the iPhone?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

 

Hi Sieghard, 

 

Zero tap stopped working for me a while back after one of my iOS upgrades so I 
started using snippets since I use this functionality all the time. I never 
found zero tap as useful for copying text from the iPhone to the computer and 
snippets handles this well too. 

 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 30, 2017, at 11:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

You probably refer to the Windows 10 application called the “Snipping Tool” 
which is different.

There is also the app called Zero Tap, haven’t used it in a while, but I think 
it it still works.

On the PC you just put a shortcut on the desktop to the Zerotap website, you 
can sign in and tell it to remember your user name and password, then write or 
paste your text in the text box on the PC and as soon as you open Zero Tap on 
the iPhone the text will be copied to the pasteboard, you can go to any app and 
paste it in.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 



From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

 

Isn’t that app included with Windows 10 now at least saw one named like it; 
but, might be a different name as would have to check.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

 

Thanks a bunch!

 

I had completely forgotten about this app.

 

Now using it and it works great.

 

Don

 

 

On 28-Jan-17 9:54 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I use an app called Snippets by Notable Group to copy data between my Windows 7 
computer and my iPhone 7. This app used to be named Text sync and uses a 
dedicated web page where you can copy data into a text box for pasting between 
the two. 

 

Good luck. 

 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Don Breda  > wrote:

Hi listers.

 

I used to use a windows program called easy push and its iphone ap called 
UbiDisc.

 

The iPhone app is now to old.

 

this set of programs I could use to copy text from the clicpboard on my windows 
pc to my iPhone.

 

Any suggestions for a current set of programs to easily do this?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Don

 

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Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard, 

Zero tap stopped working for me a while back after one of my iOS upgrades so I 
started using snippets since I use this functionality all the time. I never 
found zero tap as useful for copying text from the iPhone to the computer and 
snippets handles this well too. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 11:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You probably refer to the Windows 10 application called the “Snipping Tool” 
> which is different.
> There is also the app called Zero Tap, haven’t used it in a while, but I 
> think it it still works.
> On the PC you just put a shortcut on the desktop to the Zerotap website, you 
> can sign in and tell it to remember your user name and password, then write 
> or paste your text in the text box on the PC and as soon as you open Zero Tap 
> on the iPhone the text will be copied to the pasteboard, you can go to any 
> app and paste it in.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Don Risavy, Jr.
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:
>  
> Isn’t that app included with Windows 10 now at least saw one named like it; 
> but, might be a different name as would have to check.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Don Breda
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Copy and paste from windows to iPhone, need an app:
>  
> Thanks a bunch!
> 
>  
> 
> I had completely forgotten about this app.
> 
>  
> 
> Now using it and it works great.
> 
>  
> 
> Don
> 
>  
> 
>  
> On 28-Jan-17 9:54 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> I use an app called Snippets by Notable Group to copy data between my Windows 
> 7 computer and my iPhone 7. This app used to be named Text sync and uses a 
> dedicated web page where you can copy data into a text box for pasting 
> between the two. 
>  
> Good luck. 
>  
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers.
> 
>  
> 
> I used to use a windows program called easy push and its iphone ap called 
> UbiDisc.
> 
>  
> 
> The iPhone app is now to old.
> 
>  
> 
> this set of programs I could use to copy text from the clicpboard on my 
> windows pc to my iPhone.
> 
>  
> 
> Any suggestions for a current set of programs to easily do this?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
>  
> 
> Don
> 
>  
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RE: VDR and pdf's with text in them.

[Richard Turner]

Great!
Glad that worked.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VDR and pdf's with text in them.

Richard, you're a lifesaver! I totally missed that setting! I was a bit panicie 
when I was going through those settings, admitedly, so it probably just didn't 
register with me. Anyhow, thanks a heap! I've got things working right now. For 
future reference, they're the options right at the top of the visual settings 
screen, and you can choose between plain text and original layout.


Thanks,
Ari

On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:57 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

I don't seem to have any pdf's to check, but it seems I remember a setting in 
the visual settings when you have a pdf that gives you a choice between viewing 
original pdf and the text, something like that. Did they change a setting?
Richard


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I handed my phone to someone this afternoon to take a look at some instructions 
for a lock I recently purchased. I'd put the pdf file in VDR, and it read 
beautifully before I handed the person my phone. The pdf was completely 
accessible and wasn't just a picture of text, so VDR handled it just fine. When 
I got my phone back, I could no longer see the text of the pdf. All I'm getting 
now is the buttons of VDR, like the play button, the navigation button, ETC. 
When I press play, the text will read--I just can't see it with VO! Can someone 
please help? The person said the text vanished for them, too. How can I get the 
file's text to display? I'm super stumped. I've looked in the reader settings 
and the visual settings, but I didn't find anything that looked like what I 
want.


Thanks,
Ari

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RE: talking multimeter

[Mike Ulrich]

Good morning Rick,

Say I picked up that multimeter and it did have a milliamp setting. Do you 
think I could get a test lead with a male USB end, along with an end to plug 
into the multimeter?

I might give General Tool a call this morning.

They sell all kinds of  milliamp testers for USB devices on Amazon, but I 
didn't find any acdcessible or talking ones.
See what I'm saying?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: talking multimeter

Hi Michael,
I didn't look at all of the specs for the multi-meter, so I am not sure of all 
of the ranges available.
I have an old meter here, but am not even sure if it reads in milliamps.

Take care,
Rick Justice
- Original Message -
From: "Michael D. Ulrich" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: talking multimeter


Thanks Rick, I'll most likely by the saying, as it looks very much 
accessible. I'm also looking for a USB type of charging indicator. What I 
mean is, something to measure Milla amps as in my solar powered device 
charger. See what I'm saying?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Richard  wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
> I haven't looked for it on Amazon,
> but here are the links for GeneralTool
>
> https://www.generaltools.com/digital-tools/new-digital-tools
>
> is a listing of their new tools.
>
> https://www.generaltools.com/digital-tools/new-digital-tools/ts04-digitalmultimeter
>
> is the info on the multi-meter.
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michael D. Ulrich" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: talking multimeter
>
>
> Hey Rick, how would I go about finding that particular multimeter by
> general, on Amazon?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Richard  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chip,
>> It is my understanding that "General Tool", also has several devices that
>> will
>> connect to a smart phone via bluetooth.
>> From what I have heard, their multi-meter can be had from Amazon for
>> around
>> $40.
>>
>> Rick Justice
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chip Orange" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:00 PM
>> Subject: talking multimeter
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Since I ran across an old friend who was (probably still is) a ham radio
>> operator, I thought I'd mention I just came across a multi-meter device
>> with
>> bluetooth, which transmits it's readings to a smartphone app, which will
>> speak them and/or record them.  You can find it at
>>
>> http://redfishinstruments.com
>>
>> and it's their IDVM (and their app is the IDVM2 in the app store).  I
>> think
>> it's the only thing they make/sell.
>>
>>
>>
>> The app is free and the device is $150.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
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Re: Battery Usage

[Dave]

thanks for that.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: rajmund

Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Usage

Hi,
If on 9.3, definitely worth waiting.

Sent from a BrailleNote


- Original Message -
From: "Dave" 
wrote:

hi,
what version of the iPhone do you have?

Sent from Thunderbird

On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest
phones came
out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple
days
depending on what applications you're using.  So today I was out
and for
about three hours I had location services on cellular data on
and I had
maps open.  So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that
period
time which I thought was a little excessive.  I had no other
applications
open.
Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a
program so
essential for many doesn't seem so great to me.  Is this the
type of
battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps
when
they're driving a car with somebody and they have a location
tracking
on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my
phone a
lot! I rarely have anything open in the app switcher.  I usually
go to
two or three applications at a time him and not even for very
long.  I
also rather obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I
almost never
have location tracking on except when I want to check whether or
I'm
driving somewhere in the car with somebody.


Deidre


On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner
 wrote:


One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you
are not
using it?
If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
Richard


On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson

Re: Battery Usage

[rajmund]

Hi,
If on 9.3, definitely worth waiting.

Sent from a BrailleNote


- Original Message -
From: "Dave"  
wrote:


hi,
what version of the iPhone do you have?

Sent from Thunderbird

On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest 
phones came
out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple 
days
depending on what applications you're using.  So today I was out 
and for
about three hours I had location services on cellular data on 
and I had
maps open.  So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that 
period
time which I thought was a little excessive.  I had no other 
applications

open.
Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a 
program so
essential for many doesn't seem so great to me.  Is this the 
type of
battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps 
when
they're driving a car with somebody and they have a location 
tracking

on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my 
phone a
lot! I rarely have anything open in the app switcher.  I usually 
go to
two or three applications at a time him and not even for very 
long.  I
also rather obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I 
almost never
have location tracking on except when I want to check whether or 
I'm

driving somewhere in the car with somebody.


Deidre


On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner
 wrote:


One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you 
are not

using it?
If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
Richard


On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson 

Re: Battery Usage

[Dave]

i am still running 9.35, on my 6s. is it still worth me waiting for 10.3, 
before updating?


Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio

Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Usage

Yep, that is what I am  planning to do. T
hanks.

Deidre


On Jan 30, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


The current version is 10.2.1, which fixed some VoiceOver issues.
At this point, you may want to wait for 10.3 to come out.
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Deidre Muccio

Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Usage

I have an iPhone 6. I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.

Deidre



On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund  wrote:

hi,
what version of the iPhone do you have?

Sent from Thunderbird


On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest phones came 
out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple days 
depending on what applications you're using. So today I was out and for 
about three hours I had location services on cellular data on and I had 
maps open. So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that period 
time which I thought was a little excessive. I had no other applications 
open.
Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a program so 
essential for many doesn't seem so great to me. Is this the type of 
battery drain other people are getting when they're using maps when 
they're driving a car with somebody and they have a location tracking 
on? I left the house with a fully charged phone.
I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my phone a 
lot! I rarely have anything open in the app switcher. I usually go to 
two or three applications at a time him and not even for very long. I 
also rather obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I almost never 
have location tracking on except when I want to check whether or I'm 
driving somewhere in the car with somebody.



Deidre


On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not 
using it?

If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
Richard


On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  
wrote:


All,

I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
it also says that the app has only been on in the background for one
minute. Any idea what's going on?

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Re: Battery Usage

[Deidre Muccio]

Yep, that is what I am  planning to do. T
hanks.

Deidre


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Richard Turner  
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> The current version is 10.2.1, which fixed some VoiceOver issues.
> At this point, you may want to wait for 10.3 to come out.
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Usage
> 
> I have an iPhone 6. I haven't even uploaded 10.1.2 yet either.
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> what version of the iPhone do you have?
>> 
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>>> On 30/01/17 8:56 PM, Deidre Muccio wrote:
>>> Speaking of battery drainage, some years ago when the newest phones came 
>>> out they were posting about how the battery might last a couple days 
>>> depending on what applications you're using. So today I was out and for 
>>> about three hours I had location services on cellular data on and I had 
>>> maps open. So the battery drains almost down to nothing in that period time 
>>> which I thought was a little excessive. I had no other applications open.
>>> Only getting three or four hours of battery life when using a program so 
>>> essential for many doesn't seem so great to me. Is this the type of battery 
>>> drain other people are getting when they're using maps when they're driving 
>>> a car with somebody and they have a location tracking on? I left the house 
>>> with a fully charged phone.
>>> I'm one of those who some of you laugh at that micromanages my phone a lot! 
>>> I rarely have anything open in the app switcher. I usually go to two or 
>>> three applications at a time him and not even for very long. I also rather 
>>> obsessively rarely have cellular data on and I almost never have location 
>>> tracking on except when I want to check whether or I'm driving somewhere in 
>>> the car with somebody.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Deidre
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 30, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 
 One thought, do you take mail out of the app switcher when you are not 
 using it?
 If not, try that for a day and check the usage again.
 Richard
 
 
> On Jan 30, 2017, at 12:00 PM, kelby carlson  
> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> I've been experiening a lot faster drop in battery level over the last
> couple of days. When I check to see the pattern of usage in the last
> 24 hours, it says that almost 20% of my battery is being used by my
> mail app even though I have fetch and notifications for it turned off;
> it also says that the app has only been on in the background for one
> minute. Any idea what's going on?
> 
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