RE: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, not all iPhones are running the same version of iOS, but it is a fact that 
almost 80% of all iOS devices were running iOS 10 approx. 5 months after its 
release and if you take iOS 9 and iOS 10 together 95% of all iOS devices run 
those two latest versions with only 5% running earlier versions.
Android doesn’t even get close to these numbers, it is just the nature of the 
beast and one example where Apple’s control over hardware, software and the eco 
system is a good thing. Apple also told the large carriers right from day one 
that Apple will be in charge of pushing out updates whereas many carriers are 
responsible to do this for Android devices.
Here an article putting this into perspective:

iOS 10 Now Installed on Nearly 80% of Active iOS Devices
Wednesday February 22, 2017 6:18 am PST by Joe Rossignol
Just over five months after iOS 10 was released to the public, the operating 
system is now installed on 79% of active iOS devices, according to the latest 
adoption data shared by Apple.
iOS 9 remains installed on 16% of active iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch devices, 
while 5% of devices are running an earlier iOS version, as measured by the App 
Store on February 20.
iOS 10 adoption appears to be slightly outpacing iOS 9 adoption over the same 
time period. iOS 9 adoption briefly stalled at 77% of active devices last 
February.
iOS 10 could see further adoption when iOS 10.3, which is currently in beta for 
developers and public testers, is officially released. The software update's 
key new features include "Find My AirPods" and a switch to the all-new Apple 
File System (APFS).
iOS adoption continues to significantly outpace Android. Nougat, the latest 
version of Android, is installed on just 1.2% of active Android devices as of 
February 6, despite being released six months ago today. Android Lollipop, 
released in November 2014, is still installed on 32.9% of active devices.
Apple's control over both hardware and software gives it an advantage over the 
Android ecosystem, while Apple persistently notifies iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
touch users to update to the latest iOS version, including offering the option 
to have the software update install overnight while the device is plugged in.

Here some data from Google about Android. Spoiler: Nougat which is the latest 
version of Android and which came out I think before iOS 10 has just under 5% 
to the 79% ofo iOS 10.:

Gingerbread 2.3.3 to 2.3.7: 0.9%

Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3 to 4.0.4: 0.9%

Jelly Bean: 10.1% overall
4.1.x: 3.5%
4.2.x: 5.1%
4.3: 1.5%

KitKat4.4: 20%

Lollipop: 32% overall
5.0: 9.0%
5.1: 23%

Marshmallow 6.0: 31.2%

Nougat: 4.9% overall
7.0: 4.5%
7.1: 0.4%

*The data above is from Google. It was collected during a seven-day period 
ending on April 3, 2017. Any versions with less than 0.1 percent distribution 
are not shown.

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Crafting kingdom tip and another question

[Lea W Langley]

Hi all,
I decided to see if I could choose more than one property to put in my storage 
at the same time I have the lumberyard the farm and the quarry. I put all of 
them in and it worked you can make a lot more gold that way.

My question is does anyone no I have a quick way to go back once you read the 
reach the end of the slots? I have 15 in the farm. I know that I can reset the 
game so that I can get my restart all automations reward, but I wanted to 
unlock my estate first. If anyone has any suggestions or comments they would be 
welcome.

I really do love this game. I especially like the part where you can buy the 
game for $4.99 and you don't have to watch anymore of those videos some of them 
I had a terrible time getting out of.

God bless,
Wren Langley


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Apology for the other message, some crafting Kingdom questions

[Lea W Langley]

Question one is the metal part that is needed in the fishing rod that is in the 
timberyard made from the furnace? Question two do boosts such as salesman quick 
study and the one that unlocks products cheaper multiply if you use them more 
than once? I know that the gold adds up because I have use that four times, but 
I wasn't sure about the others. Question three do I need to unlock all of the 
shops before I can unlock the estate?.
Thanks again for the help.

God bless,
Wren Langley

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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Michael Maslo]

That is not necessarily the case. There are many more different version of 
android running on different handsets. Not all iPhones either are running on 
the same version of iOS. Again, I feel the best way to decide, is try both out 
for yourself and see what you like and what serves the needs that you 
personally have.




Sincerely,

Michael Maslo

> On May 20, 2017, at 11:18, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> And as someone already stated, all Androids are different, all iPhones are 
> all the same, so each time you switch from one Android device to another, you 
> have to learn how that particular device works, you don't have that problem 
> with iDevices.
> 
> -Original Message- From: MamaPeach
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
> 
> I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive,
> but so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for
> me. I tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of
> them. It is IOS all the way for me.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Wayne Scott
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
> 
> IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I have
> read.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Ryan Mann  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:27:14 -0400
> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
> 
> I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular
> and Be My Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another
> example.  It is really easy to use a Braille display with IOS.
> Just go into VoiceOver Settings, Braille then pair it.  One thing
> that really annoys me about Android is that from what I
> understand, each phone is laid out differently because each
> manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you
> learn one, you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.
> Usually, when I get a new iPhone, I am able to get it set up
> within an hour or less then go on about my business.  What really
> annoys me about Android is that not every phone gets updates.
> That means that if I am one of the unlucky people who has a phone
> that won't get Android O, I just have to read on mailing lists
> about the kool features while I'm stuck on the earlier version.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a
> blackberry PRIV running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But
> here is my question.  I just got myself a brand new shiny fast
> sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is popping into my
> head.  I have a good while before I can afford to afford to get a
> new device, but I want some input here.  Other than the
> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS
> today.  Please don’t tell me that its got the best
> accessibility, because that is a fallacy since google is equal,
> but features, useful new tools, etc just something that would
> actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
> thanks
> Doug.
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Michael Maslo]

Hello, add a curiosity, when is the last time you tried android? What version 
of android was it, what version to talk back, and how long did you keep the 
android device?




Sincerely,

Michael Maslo

> On May 20, 2017, at 11:12, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive, but 
> so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for me. I 
> tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of them. It 
> is IOS all the way for me.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Wayne Scott
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
> 
> IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I have
> read.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Ryan Mann  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:27:14 -0400
> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
> 
> I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular
> and Be My Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another
> example.  It is really easy to use a Braille display with IOS.
> Just go into VoiceOver Settings, Braille then pair it.  One thing
> that really annoys me about Android is that from what I
> understand, each phone is laid out differently because each
> manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you
> learn one, you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.
> Usually, when I get a new iPhone, I am able to get it set up
> within an hour or less then go on about my business.  What really
> annoys me about Android is that not every phone gets updates.
> That means that if I am one of the unlucky people who has a phone
> that won't get Android O, I just have to read on mailing lists
> about the kool features while I'm stuck on the earlier version.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a
> blackberry PRIV running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But
> here is my question.  I just got myself a brand new shiny fast
> sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is popping into my
> head.  I have a good while before I can afford to afford to get a
> new device, but I want some input here.  Other than the
> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS
> today.  Please don’t tell me that its got the best
> accessibility, because that is a fallacy since google is equal,
> but features, useful new tools, etc just something that would
> actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
> thanks
> Doug.
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re: Some focus 14 blu questions

[Wayne Scott]

In answer to your third question, yes! The message is sent the 
same wayddFfyr second question, the Focus is only used to be 
paired.  I have a little Focus 14 blue which I need to get fixed.  
So, currently I am using a braillenote.  And, I believe the Focus 
14 can be used with a Mac.  If a Focus 80 can be used, so can a 
Focus 14.


- Original Message -
From: Kliphton Miller 

Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Michael Maslo]

Wayne, you cannot always believe what you read. As other who have both say on 
the list, Android and iOS are extremely close. If you've only used one device, 
it is hard to make him a fair bases or comparison. Also if you've only used one 
device and then switch to another device, there is still a curve of learning. I 
love both operating systems. If I went back to android, I would love it as much 
as I love my iOS device. Everyone has a preference, unfortunately android guess 
a lot worse wrap then anything else. 
My advice, try both see what works for what you do. Don't let anyone else 
convince you to go with another device instead go with what you like best. 
Again try both use both give each a fair chance and then make your own decision.




Sincerely,

Michael Maslo

> On May 20, 2017, at 10:55, Wayne Scott  wrote:
> 
> IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from whaI have read.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Ryan Mann  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:27:14 -0400
> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
> 
> I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular and Be My 
> Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another example.  It is really 
> easy to use a Braille display with IOS.  Just go into VoiceOver Settings, 
> Braille then pair it.  One thing that really annoys me about Android is that 
> from what I understand, each phone is laid out differently because each 
> manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you learn one, 
> you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.  Usually, when I get a 
> new iPhone, I am able to get it set up within an hour or less then go on 
> about my business.  What really annoys me about Android is that not every 
> phone gets updates.  That means that if I am one of the unlucky people who 
> has a phone that won't get Android O, I just have to read on mailing lists 
> about the kool features while I'm stuck on the earlier version.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
> running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question.  I just 
> got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
> IOS is popping into my head.  I have a good while before I can afford to 
> afford to get a new device, but I want some input here.  Other than the 
> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today.  Please 
> don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is a fallacy 
> since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just something 
> that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
> thanks
> Doug.
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Re: [AppleSupportVI] Touch Typing Program for the Mac?

[John Panarese]

  Keystroke might be a third party app you can get from their website. I don't 
recall getting it from the Mac A[pp store.


Take Care

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> On May 20, 2017, at 6:57 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I forgot to say that the XType app is the one which is out of date and 
> will not work with the latest Sierra. The Keystroke does not appear in U.K. 
> App Store for mac. Any other such accessible Mac apps out there?
> Harry
> 
> On 19 May 2017, at 04:11, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
>  [applesupportvi]  > wrote:
> 
>>At the moment, xType and Keystroke are the accessible ones I know of. I 
>> hear that APH is developing a version of Typing Tutor, but I am not sure if 
>> that is rumor or not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2017, at 11:56 AM, 'Snow, Amy L. (TCH)' amy.s...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us 
>>>  [applesupportvi] 
>>> > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Mike Arrigo]

Another difference, which may or may not matter is that with android, you can 
side load apps that are not in the google play store. Also, I believe that 
Google's app approval process is not as strict about what you can and can't do. 
With IOS, unless you jail break the phone, you can only install apps from the 
app store. While I do use IOS, I don't really like the idea of someone else 
deciding what I can and cannot install on my device. If Apple decides that they 
don't like an app for some reason, you won't be able to install it, I figure, 
if I purchase a device, I should be able to do what I want.
> On May 20, 2017, at 5:51 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
> 
> I also think it is fair to say that the apps on android or lower cost.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> One other advantage of Android I forgot to mention, it's much easier to 
>> transfer content to and from an android device because it will show up like 
>> any other drive when connected to a computer, and there are many file 
>> manager applications available for Android. With IOS this is more difficult 
>> at times.
>>> On May 20, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think it comes down to personal preference. As you have said, 
>>> accessibility is equal on both platforms. The way the screen readers work 
>>> is also similar. There are a couple of differences. Android is more 
>>> configurable, it has less restrictions. Also, many think that Google's 
>>> voice features are better. On the other hand, with IOS, all currently 
>>> supported devices receive the software updates as soon as they are 
>>> released. With Android, this is only the case with the devices sold by 
>>> google. With other brands, you have to wait until the manufacturer or 
>>> carrier decides to release the update, or install a custom rom such as 
>>> cyanogen which tends to release updates much faster. Both platforms have 
>>> many apps available, and in many cases, the same apps are available on both 
>>> platforms. With IOS, you would need to make sure you like the form factor 
>>> of one of the current iphones. Again, it really comes down to personal 
>>> preferences. We actually have the same platform choices as sighted 
>>> consumers, and can access them at no extra cost which is the way it should 
>>> be.
 On May 20, 2017, at 2:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
 
 Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
 running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
 got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
 IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
 afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
 continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. 
 Please don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is 
 a fallacy since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just 
 something that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS 
 again.
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Some focus 14 blu questions

[Kliphton Miller]

Okay, I see the focus 14 blu is priced pretty low, for braille anyway.  I chose 
this one over the orbit that is do to be sold later this year, because I see 
the orbit is 20 cell, and the focus is 14.  That seems considerabley smaller.  
So, my questions.
1. Does the focus 14 blu work with Mac?
2. Does the focus do more than just pair with 2 blu tooth devices?
3. When sending an iMessage from phone, how would you send it?  I know with a 
blu-tooth keyboard, you just hit enter, and it sends it, is it the same way 
with the focus?  Thanks.

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RE: Can I still download content from iTunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can search for and download songs, movies etc. with iTunes on your Windows 
PC, the Apple TV will play iTunes contents but won't download it.


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Subject: Can I still download content from iTunes


 Hello everyone,


I was just wondering, can I still download content from iTunes, if all I have 
is my windows 7 laptop, and my Apple TV?

I do also have an older Mac laptop. But I am in the process of trying to learn 
all about how it works.


But I would still like to be able to download music, or what have you, 
from iTunes, if possible.

But I wasn't sure if I had to have an iPhone, or something like that, or 
if anyone could just use it?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Nimer Jaber]

I also think it is fair to say that the apps on android or lower cost.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> One other advantage of Android I forgot to mention, it's much easier to 
> transfer content to and from an android device because it will show up like 
> any other drive when connected to a computer, and there are many file manager 
> applications available for Android. With IOS this is more difficult at times.
>> On May 20, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I think it comes down to personal preference. As you have said, 
>> accessibility is equal on both platforms. The way the screen readers work is 
>> also similar. There are a couple of differences. Android is more 
>> configurable, it has less restrictions. Also, many think that Google's voice 
>> features are better. On the other hand, with IOS, all currently supported 
>> devices receive the software updates as soon as they are released. With 
>> Android, this is only the case with the devices sold by google. With other 
>> brands, you have to wait until the manufacturer or carrier decides to 
>> release the update, or install a custom rom such as cyanogen which tends to 
>> release updates much faster. Both platforms have many apps available, and in 
>> many cases, the same apps are available on both platforms. With IOS, you 
>> would need to make sure you like the form factor of one of the current 
>> iphones. Again, it really comes down to personal preferences. We actually 
>> have the same platform choices as sighted consumers, and can access them at 
>> no extra cost which is the way it should be.
>>> On May 20, 2017, at 2:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
>>> running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
>>> got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
>>> IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
>>> afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
>>> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. 
>>> Please don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is a 
>>> fallacy since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just 
>>> something that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS 
>>> again.
>>> thanks
>>> Doug.
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RE: App to block restricted callers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No phone or app can do this, you can block callers in the Phone app or from the 
"More Info" button in the recent calls list, but they can still call you, your 
phone just won't ring and they will be sent to voice amil I think. If you want 
somebody to be completely blocked you have to inquire if your provider offers 
such a feature.

Regards,
Sieghard

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James Gibson
Is there a good app that I can download on the iPhone SE that will allow me to 
block restricted callers from calling me?

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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Mike Arrigo]

One other advantage of Android I forgot to mention, it's much easier to 
transfer content to and from an android device because it will show up like any 
other drive when connected to a computer, and there are many file manager 
applications available for Android. With IOS this is more difficult at times.
> On May 20, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I think it comes down to personal preference. As you have said, accessibility 
> is equal on both platforms. The way the screen readers work is also similar. 
> There are a couple of differences. Android is more configurable, it has less 
> restrictions. Also, many think that Google's voice features are better. On 
> the other hand, with IOS, all currently supported devices receive the 
> software updates as soon as they are released. With Android, this is only the 
> case with the devices sold by google. With other brands, you have to wait 
> until the manufacturer or carrier decides to release the update, or install a 
> custom rom such as cyanogen which tends to release updates much faster. Both 
> platforms have many apps available, and in many cases, the same apps are 
> available on both platforms. With IOS, you would need to make sure you like 
> the form factor of one of the current iphones. Again, it really comes down to 
> personal preferences. We actually have the same platform choices as sighted 
> consumers, and can access them at no extra cost which is the way it should be.
>> On May 20, 2017, at 2:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
>> running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
>> got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
>> IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
>> afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
>> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. Please 
>> don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is a fallacy 
>> since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just something 
>> that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
>> thanks
>> Doug.
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Nimer Jaber]

Hello,

That would be the Google Pixel.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> Which Google phone is the most current?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> It is true that each manufacturer customizes Android a bit differently, and 
>> as I said in the previous message, updates can be an issue. This is why I 
>> always suggest that if you want an android phone, get the unlocked phones 
>> sold by google, no odd customizations and very fast updates, nothing but 
>> advantages.
>>> On May 20, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular and Be My 
>>> Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another example.  It is really 
>>> easy to use a Braille display with IOS.  Just go into VoiceOver Settings, 
>>> Braille then pair it.  One thing that really annoys me about Android is 
>>> that from what I understand, each phone is laid out differently because 
>>> each manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you 
>>> learn one, you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.  Usually, 
>>> when I get a new iPhone, I am able to get it set up within an hour or less 
>>> then go on about my business.  What really annoys me about Android is that 
>>> not every phone gets updates.  That means that if I am one of the unlucky 
>>> people who has a phone that won't get Android O, I just have to read on 
>>> mailing lists about the kool features while I'm stuck on the earlier 
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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 Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
 running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
 got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
 IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
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 continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. 
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Anthony Vece]

Which Google phone is the most current?


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!

> On May 20, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> It is true that each manufacturer customizes Android a bit differently, and 
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> always suggest that if you want an android phone, get the unlocked phones 
> sold by google, no odd customizations and very fast updates, nothing but 
> advantages.
>> On May 20, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular and Be My 
>> Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another example.  It is really 
>> easy to use a Braille display with IOS.  Just go into VoiceOver Settings, 
>> Braille then pair it.  One thing that really annoys me about Android is that 
>> from what I understand, each phone is laid out differently because each 
>> manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you learn one, 
>> you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.  Usually, when I get a 
>> new iPhone, I am able to get it set up within an hour or less then go on 
>> about my business.  What really annoys me about Android is that not every 
>> phone gets updates.  That means that if I am one of the unlucky people who 
>> has a phone that won't get Android O, I just have to read on mailing lists 
>> about the kool features while I'm stuck on the earlier version.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
>>> running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
>>> got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
>>> IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
>>> afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
>>> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. 
>>> Please don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is a 
>>> fallacy since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just 
>>> something that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS 
>>> again.
>>> thanks
>>> Doug.
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Nimer Jaber]

Hello,

For me, an iOS device is like having the equivalent of both the best of Google 
and Apple in your pocket. Most of Google's services are on iOS, and in some 
instances, they run better on iOS than android. Both platforms are drawing near 
to each other on features I would say, but android is more refined and polished 
in my opinion. Android groups notifications so much better than iOS. Droid 
offers so much flexibility, while still giving you access to many of the same 
blindness apps. Android apps seem more uniform, with where buttons and controls 
are placed and such. Multi-tasking on android is so much better because you can 
truly get two apps running side by side. I guess that is called multi-window. 
Google continues to update and enhance accessibilwhy features. One huge benefit 
is that Google has web views and the screen reader as separate apps, which 
makes it so much easier to update when bugs are found. You often do not need to 
wait for an OS update.

On the other hand, at the moment iOS braille support is much more refined, 
although this will change very soon. IPhones are more premium than many android 
phones, but not others. They receive updates for longer. They tend to just work 
without lots of battery drain, and general instability. IOs has more useful 
accessibility features, although Google continues to enhance their access 
offerings. Continuity is huge, and Google cannot match it, not even with Chrome 
OS. The closest you will get is by using timething like pushbullet. The apple 
ecosystem of peripherals for an iPhone is huge. Apple support is, by far, 
class-leading. Google does not have a uniform accessibility team company-wide, 
so different Google products will implement accessibility in different ways. I 
only hope they work more closely together in future. Apple's commitment to 
inclusion is company-wide, and includes the accessibility and usability of all 
of their apps and services, from the very first unboxing, and supports 
accessibility for even their development platform and any diagnostic modes in 
their products. Finally, one that many may not care too much about... IPhones 
are unsurpassed in most benchmarks, and what Apple can do with their hardware 
when software is written and designed specifically for that hardware is quite 
impressive.

I do miss android... Apple has many quirks, and still not as much flexibility. 
I cannot customize an iUS device the same as an Android device. I have widgets 
on one page of my home screen, but I cannot move them around, and app devs seem 
to not have as much control over what widgets can be on Android. Notifications 
drive me insane... I would, at the very least, love an option to clear 
notifications by app, even if they are not categorized that way. I miss my app 
drawer... This idea that all apps show up on install on a page without the 
ability to have them auto-sorted or anything is annoying. I hate not having 
file explorer access, particularly if I connect my device to the computer and 
want to transfer files. I switched to iOS mostly for philosophical reasons, and 
I do enjoy updates, stability, a connected ecosystem, and a commitment and 
willingness to do accessibility right. I very much miss my android though, and 
Apple adding a dvorak keyboard layout would go a long way to getting me feeling 
more comfortable with all that I am missing.

I tried to be objective, giving my assessments of both platforms. I do not 
pretend to know all things, so if I am missing something or if I did not get 
something right, please let me know.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 3:19 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> I guess because I started out using IOS, I just never could get used to using 
> Talk Back. It just seems nearly inpossible to accomplish anything with it. 
> With IOS, I am very proficient at using it. I don't know if I didn't have the 
> settings customized to work well with Talk Back or what, but I hated it and 
> totally gave up on using my Android phone and my tablet.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ryan Mann
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
> 
> Out of curiosity, what did you dislike about TalkBack?  I couldn't get the 
> angle gestures to work consistantly.  On the other hand, I can use the rotor 
> even when I'm half asleep.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 12:12 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> 
>> I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive, 
>> but so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for 
>> me. I tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of 
>> them. It is IOS all the way for me.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Wayne Scott
>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
>> 
>> IOS is 

Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Christopher Chaltain]

There are some advantages in getting phones from sources other than 
Google. No Google phone has the rugged form factor of the S7 Active, for 
example. Google phones don't have a home button or a SD card slot. 
Phones from Samsung give you a choice of another screen reader, another 
accessible launcher and so on.


IMHO, one of the strengths of the Android ecosystem is the choice you 
get, including in the form factors you get to choose from. If you 
restrict yourself to just Google phones and stock Android then you're 
denying yourself one of the advantages in looking around at your Android 
options.


BTW, this is also what leads to fragmentation in the Android ecosystem, 
which leads to some of the biggest issues in going with an Android 
device, such as waiting for updates, inaccessible skins from some 
manufactures and so on.


On 20/05/17 13:57, Mike Arrigo wrote:

It is true that each manufacturer customizes Android a bit differently, and as 
I said in the previous message, updates can be an issue. This is why I always 
suggest that if you want an android phone, get the unlocked phones sold by 
google, no odd customizations and very fast updates, nothing but advantages.

On May 20, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:

I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular and Be My 
Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another example.  It is really 
easy to use a Braille display with IOS.  Just go into VoiceOver Settings, 
Braille then pair it.  One thing that really annoys me about Android is that 
from what I understand, each phone is laid out differently because each 
manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you learn one, 
you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.  Usually, when I get a new 
iPhone, I am able to get it set up within an hour or less then go on about my 
business.  What really annoys me about Android is that not every phone gets 
updates.  That means that if I am one of the unlucky people who has a phone 
that won't get Android O, I just have to read on mailing lists about the kool 
features while I'm stuck on the earlier version.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:

Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV running 
android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just got myself a 
brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is popping 
into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to afford to get a new 
device, but I want some input here. Other than the continuity features, please 
tell me what is so great about IOS today. Please don’t tell me that its got the 
best accessibility, because that is a fallacy since google is equal, but 
features, useful new tools, etc just something that would actually sway me more 
to looking seriously at IOS again.
thanks
Doug.

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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[MamaPeach]

I guess because I started out using IOS, I just never could get used to 
using Talk Back. It just seems nearly inpossible to accomplish anything with 
it. With IOS, I am very proficient at using it. I don't know if I didn't 
have the settings customized to work well with Talk Back or what, but I 
hated it and totally gave up on using my Android phone and my tablet.


-Original Message- 
From: Ryan Mann

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

Out of curiosity, what did you dislike about TalkBack?  I couldn't get the 
angle gestures to work consistantly.  On the other hand, I can use the rotor 
even when I'm half asleep.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 20, 2017, at 12:12 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:

I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive, 
but so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for 
me. I tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of 
them. It is IOS all the way for me.


-Original Message- From: Wayne Scott
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I have
read.

- Original Message -
From: Ryan Mann  wrote:

Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a
blackberry PRIV running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But
here is my question.  I just got myself a brand new shiny fast
sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is popping into my
head.  I have a good while before I can afford to afford to get a
new device, but I want some input here.  Other than the
continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS
today.  Please don’t tell me that its got the best
accessibility, because that is a fallacy since google is equal,
but features, useful new tools, etc just something that would
actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
thanks
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Mike Arrigo]

It is true that each manufacturer customizes Android a bit differently, and as 
I said in the previous message, updates can be an issue. This is why I always 
suggest that if you want an android phone, get the unlocked phones sold by 
google, no odd customizations and very fast updates, nothing but advantages.
> On May 20, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular and Be My 
> Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another example.  It is really 
> easy to use a Braille display with IOS.  Just go into VoiceOver Settings, 
> Braille then pair it.  One thing that really annoys me about Android is that 
> from what I understand, each phone is laid out differently because each 
> manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you learn one, 
> you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.  Usually, when I get a 
> new iPhone, I am able to get it set up within an hour or less then go on 
> about my business.  What really annoys me about Android is that not every 
> phone gets updates.  That means that if I am one of the unlucky people who 
> has a phone that won't get Android O, I just have to read on mailing lists 
> about the kool features while I'm stuck on the earlier version.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
>> running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
>> got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
>> IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
>> afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
>> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. Please 
>> don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is a fallacy 
>> since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just something 
>> that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
>> thanks
>> Doug.
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Mike Arrigo]

I think it comes down to personal preference. As you have said, accessibility 
is equal on both platforms. The way the screen readers work is also similar. 
There are a couple of differences. Android is more configurable, it has less 
restrictions. Also, many think that Google's voice features are better. On the 
other hand, with IOS, all currently supported devices receive the software 
updates as soon as they are released. With Android, this is only the case with 
the devices sold by google. With other brands, you have to wait until the 
manufacturer or carrier decides to release the update, or install a custom rom 
such as cyanogen which tends to release updates much faster. Both platforms 
have many apps available, and in many cases, the same apps are available on 
both platforms. With IOS, you would need to make sure you like the form factor 
of one of the current iphones. Again, it really comes down to personal 
preferences. We actually have the same platform choices as sighted consumers, 
and can access them at no extra cost which is the way it should be.
> On May 20, 2017, at 2:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
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> Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
> running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
> got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
> IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
> afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. Please 
> don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is a fallacy 
> since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just something 
> that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
> thanks
> Doug.
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Re: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

[Paul Ferrara]

Two questions; what does the premium version give specificly, and can you, 
using the free version, send a tracking email to that strange string of letters 
and numbers@parceltrack and get a package tracked?

Thanks.

Paul

From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:07 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

Are you using the free or premium version?  Thanks, Keith

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

 

Hi,

I am liking it quite a lot as well. My only request which I’ll soon submit to 
its developers which would put it more on par with the notifications of similar 
apps would be rather than just saying package is in transit, I wish it would 
say package is in transit and has departed such and such a place. While it does 
show this in the more detailed view of a package within the app other apps give 
it to you right within the push notification. Other wise its notifications are 
quite well timed with those of Parcel no matter the carrier in my experience 
thus far.

Robin

 

 

From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:18 PM

To: VIPhone Email List 

Subject: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

 

Hi List,

 

I'm a fan of package tracking apps and have used ShipRack for quite some time 
but have been disappointed that its notifications really haven't worked for 
quite some time. I discovered the ParcelTrack app mentioned on an AppleVis 
communication and think this will be my package tracking app going forward. I 
think its premium version costing only $2.99 USD is a very good deal compared 
to the Parcel app's ongoing subscription charge. I like that ParcelTrack 
premium has a feature to add new packages to track by forwarding a shipment 
notification email to your ParcelTrack Inbox and that it's available across 
multiple devices and computers. I know these are pretty standard featurs in 
tracking apps and the proof will be in performance but I like the price and 
feature set of ParcelTrack and it is fully accessible based on what I've seen 
so far on my iPhone 7 running iOS 10.3.2. Here's a web link to ParcelTrack for 
any who want to read more about it:

 

https://parceltrack.de/en/

 

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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Christopher Chaltain]

Android phones can be different because different manufacturers and 
carriers can make changes to support different devices, such as physical 
keyboards, SD card readers, different physical buttons and so on. These 
phones can all be running the same version of Android, just as different 
desktops, laptops and tablets can all be running the same version of 
Windows but have different form factors.


On 20/05/17 11:51, Mike O'Brien wrote:

Hi

The reasons Android phones can be different is because they are running 
different versions of Android.  The same is true for iphones using different 
releases of IOS.  There are a lot of differences how things are done between 
IOS 7 and IOS 10.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
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And as someone already stated, all Androids are different, all iPhones are all 
the same, so each time you switch from one Android device to another, you have 
to learn how that particular device works, you don't have that problem with 
iDevices.

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From: MamaPeach
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Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive, but 
so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for me. I 
tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of them. It 
is IOS all the way for me.

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Scott
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I have read.

- Original Message -
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Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question.  I just got 
myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is 
popping into my head.  I have a good while before I can afford to afford to get 
a new device, but I want some input here.  Other than the continuity features, 
please tell me what is so great about IOS today.  Please don’t tell me that its 
got the best accessibility, because that is a fallacy since google is equal, 
but features, useful new tools, etc just something that would actually sway me 
more to looking seriously at IOS again.
thanks
Doug.

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RE: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

[Merv Keck]

I’ll have to try this one. I have yet to find one to track dynamex yet. Laughs! 
Amazon uses them for same day shipping down here in Florida.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 1:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

 

Hi,

So far yes I haven’t hit upon a US carrier it hasn’t been able to track. I hope 
that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Scott Dollar 

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

 

Hi,

 

I have a question for you.

 

Does this app will work for any UPS, USPS, EdEX, and any package delivery 
companies can use that app to track down the package more easier?

 

Thank you,

 

Scott Dollar

 

 

From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:18 AM

To: VIPhone Email List 

Subject: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

 

Hi List,

 

I'm a fan of package tracking apps and have used ShipRack for quite some time 
but have been disappointed that its notifications really haven't worked for 
quite some time. I discovered the ParcelTrack app mentioned on an AppleVis 
communication and think this will be my package tracking app going forward. I 
think its premium version costing only $2.99 USD is a very good deal compared 
to the Parcel app's ongoing subscription charge. I like that ParcelTrack 
premium has a feature to add new packages to track by forwarding a shipment 
notification email to your ParcelTrack Inbox and that it's available across 
multiple devices and computers. I know these are pretty standard featurs in 
tracking apps and the proof will be in performance but I like the price and 
feature set of ParcelTrack and it is fully accessible based on what I've seen 
so far on my iPhone 7 running iOS 10.3.2. Here's a web link to ParcelTrack for 
any who want to read more about it:

 

https://parceltrack.de/en/

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Gerardo Corripio]

I'd say too try both; I've got both an Android and iPhone, each used for 
different things.
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

> El 20/05/2017, a las 9:17 a.m., Michael Maslo  
> escribió:
> 
> I have both an iPhone and an android device. In my opinion, I could use 
> either or and do no wrong. It becomes a personal preference and Accessibility 
> with both platform is almost the same. The fallacy is that most people use an 
> Apple don't know much about android and vice a versa. If you use android try 
> iOS see what you think. Everybody has their preference as said  so my 
> recommendation is go and try both and see what you like most
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Michael Maslo
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:27 AM -0500, "Ryan Mann"  
> wrote:
> 
>> I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular and Be My 
>> Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another example.  It is really 
>> easy to use a Braille display with IOS.  Just go into VoiceOver Settings, 
>> Braille then pair it.  One thing that really annoys me about Android is that 
>> from what I understand, each phone is laid out differently because each 
>> manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you learn one, 
>> you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.  Usually, when I get a 
>> new iPhone, I am able to get it set up within an hour or less then go on 
>> about my business.  What really annoys me about Android is that not every 
>> phone gets updates.  That means that if I am one of the unlucky people who 
>> has a phone that won't get Android O, I just have to read on mailing lists 
>> about the kool features while I'm stuck on the earlier version.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
>> > running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
>> > got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
>> > IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
>> > afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
>> > continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. 
>> > Please don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is 
>> > a fallacy since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just 
>> > something that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS 
>> > again.
>> > thanks
>> > Doug.
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RE: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

The reasons Android phones can be different is because they are running 
different versions of Android.  The same is true for iphones using different 
releases of IOS.  There are a lot of differences how things are done between 
IOS 7 and IOS 10.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

And as someone already stated, all Androids are different, all iPhones are all 
the same, so each time you switch from one Android device to another, you have 
to learn how that particular device works, you don't have that problem with 
iDevices.

-Original Message-
From: MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive, but 
so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for me. I 
tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of them. It 
is IOS all the way for me.

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Scott
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I have read.

- Original Message -
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Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question.  I just got 
myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is 
popping into my head.  I have a good while before I can afford to afford to get 
a new device, but I want some input here.  Other than the continuity features, 
please tell me what is so great about IOS today.  Please don’t tell me that its 
got the best accessibility, because that is a fallacy since google is equal, 
but features, useful new tools, etc just something that would actually sway me 
more to looking seriously at IOS again.
thanks
Doug.

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RE: Reading epub eBooks on overdrive on IPhone

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I love Bookshare. But I have also found that, in Overdrive, some ebooks are 
offered as either Kindle or Epub books. I have successfully downloaded and read 
severl Overdrive Kindle books. If I recall, when clicking on an ebook version 
of the book, I don't recall if this is before or after it is borrowed, but I 
think it is before, an option appears asking if you want the Kindle or Epub 
version. A librarian has told me that not all ebooks are offered in a Kindle 
version, though, so if you try and can't find it, don't give up that other 
ebooks may be offered in Kindle format. How much of this may be Library 
specific, I don't know.

Keith
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading epub eBooks on overdrive on IPhone

Yu can read non DRM ePub files with Voice Dream Reader.  Or, join Bookshare and 
access their books with Voice Dream Reader.
But, as Mark said, if you are wanting eBooks from a library, they are not 
accessible.
Bookshare, for $50 per year has more eBooks than you will ever read and many 
are the same ones that you could buy through Kindle, Nook, iBooks, since they 
get much of their material directly from the publishers.
As of today, their web site says they have "550,000 titles s 
  and counting!"

www.bookshare.org

Richard

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M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading epub eBooks on overdrive on IPhone

Hello Husna,

While I enjoy audio books, every day on my iPhone via the Over Drive app, 
currently, it is not possible to read eBooks via Over Drive when VoiceOver is 
enabled.

Be that as it may, I strongly recommend the iOS Over Drive app to anyone who 
enjoys Audible audiobook content, as they use the exact same files, though the 
cover art may differ.  

For example, I have downloaded over 30  audiobooks via Over Drive since the 
start of the year, absolutely free.  Of course, these titles are made available 
via the public library system and, as such, one can listen to them for the 
allotted checkout time.  In my case, that is 21 days.  Still, it beats paying 
20+ dollars or more for an audio book that I will most likely only listen to, 
once.  And of course, I can check out the books anytime they are available or 
be placed on an automatic waist list.

Should you decide to use Over Drive for audio books, be sure to join as many of 
your local libraries as possible so that you will have the widest selection of 
titles.  For example, sometimes, I will search for a title that is not 
available in one library but is available at another.  

Good luck and enjoy,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Husna Begum
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:30 PM
To: idevices; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reading epub eBooks on overdrive on IPhone

Hi,
 
How can you read epub eBooks on the overdrive app on the IPhone?
 
Thanks, Husna
 
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Christopher Chaltain]

I think this is a bit overstated. I have an S7 Active from Samsung and a 
Nexus running pure Android. the systems are not that different. I happen 
to be using the same screen reader,launcher, TTS and so on on both 
systems, so they're very similar. Of course there are some differences. 
The Nexus only has three buttons on it while the S7 Active has seven.The 
S7 Active has a 4000MAH battery and there are some more differences. 
Depending on how you look at it, the greater amount of form factors and 
choice is a point in Android's favor. There's no way I could get a phone 
like the S7 Active as an iPhone.


IMHO, there's nothing wrong with either platform and people should be 
glad they have a choice.


On 20/05/17 11:18, MamaPeach wrote:
And as someone already stated, all Androids are different, all iPhones 
are all the same, so each time you switch from one Android device to 
another, you have to learn how that particular device works, you don't 
have that problem with iDevices.


-Original Message- From: MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive,
but so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for
me. I tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of
them. It is IOS all the way for me.

-Original Message- From: Wayne Scott
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I have
read.

- Original Message -
From: Ryan Mann  wrote:

Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a
blackberry PRIV running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But
here is my question.  I just got myself a brand new shiny fast
sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is popping into my
head.  I have a good while before I can afford to afford to get a
new device, but I want some input here.  Other than the
continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS
today.  Please don’t tell me that its got the best
accessibility, because that is a fallacy since google is equal,
but features, useful new tools, etc just something that would
actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
thanks
Doug.

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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Christopher Chaltain]

As someone who uses both, I don't think this is the case, depending on 
how you're using the phone. I'd encourage people to base their opinions 
on their own recent experience with both platforms or someone who's 
using both and is willing to give some unbiased pros and cons of each 
platform.


I also don't think there's any reason for anyone to convince someone to 
use one platform or the other. If you're happy using Android then stick 
with it. Ditto if you're an iPhone user.


On 20/05/17 10:55, Wayne Scott wrote:

IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from whaI have read.

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Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a blackberry 
PRIV running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my 
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me more to looking seriously at IOS again.

thanks
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Ryan Mann]

Out of curiosity, what did you dislike about TalkBack?  I couldn't get the 
angle gestures to work consistantly.  On the other hand, I can use the rotor 
even when I'm half asleep.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 12:12 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive, but 
> so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for me. I 
> tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of them. It 
> is IOS all the way for me.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Wayne Scott
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
> 
> IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I have
> read.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Ryan Mann  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Sat, 20 May 2017 09:27:14 -0400
> Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS
> 
> I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular
> and Be My Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another
> example.  It is really easy to use a Braille display with IOS.
> Just go into VoiceOver Settings, Braille then pair it.  One thing
> that really annoys me about Android is that from what I
> understand, each phone is laid out differently because each
> manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you
> learn one, you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.
> Usually, when I get a new iPhone, I am able to get it set up
> within an hour or less then go on about my business.  What really
> annoys me about Android is that not every phone gets updates.
> That means that if I am one of the unlucky people who has a phone
> that won't get Android O, I just have to read on mailing lists
> about the kool features while I'm stuck on the earlier version.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a
> blackberry PRIV running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But
> here is my question.  I just got myself a brand new shiny fast
> sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is popping into my
> head.  I have a good while before I can afford to afford to get a
> new device, but I want some input here.  Other than the
> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS
> today.  Please don’t tell me that its got the best
> accessibility, because that is a fallacy since google is equal,
> but features, useful new tools, etc just something that would
> actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
> thanks
> Doug.
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RE: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, I don't particularly despise Android phones, in fact, I have a Nexus 5 
that works reasonably well.
But I will say for certain, with absolute confidence, that there are some 
cheap, poorly made phones that run Android, one brand comes to mind 
specifically, something called a ZTE.
I was attempting to help an individual use Talkback on this phone, and you had 
to double tap in exactly the right place to activate an item.
If you did not do this correctly, nothing would happen.
Double tapping the Home icon took multiple attempts, nothing would ever 
activate on this cheap phone, and it was  a horrible and hideous user 
experience.
Too many poorly constructed crummy cheapphones flooding the market.
Obviously, I-Devices are consistent in every way.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive, 
but so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for 
me. I tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of 
them. It is IOS all the way for me.

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Scott
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I have
read.

- Original Message -
From: Ryan Mann  wrote:

Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a
blackberry PRIV running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But
here is my question.  I just got myself a brand new shiny fast
sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is popping into my
head.  I have a good while before I can afford to afford to get a
new device, but I want some input here.  Other than the
continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS
today.  Please don’t tell me that its got the best
accessibility, because that is a fallacy since google is equal,
but features, useful new tools, etc just something that would
actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
thanks
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[MamaPeach]

And as someone already stated, all Androids are different, all iPhones are 
all the same, so each time you switch from one Android device to another, 
you have to learn how that particular device works, you don't have that 
problem with iDevices.


-Original Message- 
From: MamaPeach

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive,
but so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for
me. I tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of
them. It is IOS all the way for me.

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Scott

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I have
read.

- Original Message -
From: Ryan Mann  wrote:

Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a
blackberry PRIV running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But
here is my question.  I just got myself a brand new shiny fast
sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is popping into my
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continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS
today.  Please don’t tell me that its got the best
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[MamaPeach]

I have used both and prefer IOS to android. Yes, they are more expensive, 
but so much easier to use. I loathe Talk Back, it is more frustrating for 
me. I tried using an Android tablet and an Android phone and hated both of 
them. It is IOS all the way for me.


-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Scott

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha I have
read.

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Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a
blackberry PRIV running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But
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today.  Please don’t tell me that its got the best
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RE: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Are you using the free or premium version?  Thanks, Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:14 PM
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Subject: Re: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

Hi,
I am liking it quite a lot as well. My only request which I’ll soon submit to 
its developers which would put it more on par with the notifications of similar 
apps would be rather than just saying package is in transit, I wish it would 
say package is in transit and has departed such and such a place. While it does 
show this in the more detailed view of a package within the app other apps give 
it to you right within the push notification. Other wise its notifications are 
quite well timed with those of Parcel no matter the carrier in my experience 
thus far.
Robin


From: Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:18 PM
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Subject: ParcelTrack App Recommendation

Hi List,

I'm a fan of package tracking apps and have used ShipRack for quite some time 
but have been disappointed that its notifications really haven't worked for 
quite some time. I discovered the ParcelTrack app mentioned on an AppleVis 
communication and think this will be my package tracking app going forward. I 
think its premium version costing only $2.99 USD is a very good deal compared 
to the Parcel app's ongoing subscription charge. I like that ParcelTrack 
premium has a feature to add new packages to track by forwarding a shipment 
notification email to your ParcelTrack Inbox and that it's available across 
multiple devices and computers. I know these are pretty standard featurs in 
tracking apps and the proof will be in performance but I like the price and 
feature set of ParcelTrack and it is fully accessible based on what I've seen 
so far on my iPhone 7 running iOS 10.3.2. Here's a web link to ParcelTrack for 
any who want to read more about it:

https://parceltrack.de/en/

Alan Lemly
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Wayne Scott]

IOS is definitely more accessible than Android, from wha	I have 
read.


- Original Message -
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Hey guys.  So, yeah yeah flack time….  I currently have a 
blackberry PRIV running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But 
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sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is popping into my 
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today.  Please don’t tell me that its got the best 
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RE: Looking for a particular calendar app

[Richard Turner]

I am not sure if ApppleVis has a podcast on it but that would be one place to 
check.
One of the best things for me about the app is that you can write an 
appointment as a sentence almost and it will put the information in the right 
place.
For example, in the new event field, you could write, Dr. Payne, 2 PM, 
5/30/2017, located at 1234 Main Street, Ashland, OR
Then hit the add button and everything would go where it needs to.
You can also write the lenfth, like 2PM to 3PM, or 1 hour, or you could write 
every Friday from 7 to 9 pm, with all the other info.
If you haven't figured it out yet, if you touch near the top where the month 
and year heading is and flick down with three fingers it will toggle between 
the Day Ticker, or the Month view.  

Enjoy,
Richard


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Shermeen Khan
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a particular calendar app

Hi!
Thank you for the recommendation. I have downloaded the app and it seems quite 
intuitive. Do you by any chance know if there's a podcast demonstrating the 
features of the app?
Thanks again for your help.
Shermeen

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 2:35 AM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
> 
> Check out Fantastical 2. The developer has been very responsive over the 
> years to make the app compatible with VoiceOver. It has a list view with each 
> day listed chronologically. There  is just one initial tip to give you. The 
> top half of the screen has a few commands and a day ticker listing. Instead, 
> touch in the lower half of the screen and then you are in the chronological 
> listing. Now, you can flick back or forward to move through each day and its 
> events.
> BTW, Fantastical syncs perfectly both ways with the native calendar app.
> HTH,
> Jeff
> 
> At 07:44 PM 5/19/2017, you wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I hope someone can let me know if a Calendar app like this exists. I am 
>> hoping to be able to view upcoming events in their own window, as opposed to 
>> filtering down by month, and then week, then day. So for example, I wanted 
>> to see, say, the next five or six events that I have coming up, without 
>> having to go to the month or week I think they are in. Does that make sense? 
>> Does anybody know if an app exists that has this feature? I am not terribly 
>> impressed with the native calendar app.
>> Thank you so much in advance if you can help,
>> Shermeen
>> 
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Re: Looking for a particular calendar app

[Shermeen Khan]

Hi!
Thank you for the recommendation. I have downloaded the app and it seems quite 
intuitive. Do you by any chance know if there's a podcast demonstrating the 
features of the app?
Thanks again for your help.
Shermeen

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 2:35 AM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
> 
> Check out Fantastical 2. The developer has been very responsive over the 
> years to make the app compatible with VoiceOver. It has a list view with each 
> day listed chronologically. There  is just one initial tip to give you. The 
> top half of the screen has a few commands and a day ticker listing. Instead, 
> touch in the lower half of the screen and then you are in the chronological 
> listing. Now, you can flick back or forward to move through each day and its 
> events.
> BTW, Fantastical syncs perfectly both ways with the native calendar app.
> HTH,
> Jeff
> 
> At 07:44 PM 5/19/2017, you wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I hope someone can let me know if a Calendar app like this exists. I am 
>> hoping to be able to view upcoming events in their own window, as opposed to 
>> filtering down by month, and then week, then day. So for example, I wanted 
>> to see, say, the next five or six events that I have coming up, without 
>> having to go to the month or week I think they are in. Does that make sense? 
>> Does anybody know if an app exists that has this feature? I am not terribly 
>> impressed with the native calendar app.
>> Thank you so much in advance if you can help,
>> Shermeen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Overcast Not Streaming

[kelbycarlson]

I'm still having an issue with this and haven't managed to fix it. Does 
anyone have any suggestions?

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 5:25:24 PM UTC-4, Kelby Carlson wrote:
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> I am having an issue with Overcast. i have it set for all of my 
> podcasts to stream instead of download, but when I play a podcast and 
> check the storage the podcast appears to have been downloaded. I have 
> explored all of the settings and haven't figured out a way to stop 
> this. 
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If you have an android tablet please message me off list

[Jen .]

Hi,
As the subject states, if you have an android tablet or even phone please 
message me off list as I’d like to ask some questions.
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RE: Reading epub eBooks on overdrive on IPhone

[Richard Turner]

Yu can read non DRM ePub files with Voice Dream Reader.  Or, join Bookshare and 
access their books with Voice Dream Reader.
But, as Mark said, if you are wanting eBooks from a library, they are not 
accessible.
Bookshare, for $50 per year has more eBooks than you will ever read and many 
are the same ones that you could buy through Kindle, Nook, iBooks, since they 
get much of their material directly from the publishers.
As of today, their web site says they have "550,000 titles s 
  and counting!"

www.bookshare.org

Richard

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M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading epub eBooks on overdrive on IPhone

Hello Husna,

While I enjoy audio books, every day on my iPhone via the Over Drive app, 
currently, it is not possible to read eBooks via Over Drive when VoiceOver is 
enabled.

Be that as it may, I strongly recommend the iOS Over Drive app to anyone who 
enjoys Audible audiobook content, as they use the exact same files, though the 
cover art may differ.  

For example, I have downloaded over 30  audiobooks via Over Drive since the 
start of the year, absolutely free.  Of course, these titles are made available 
via the public library system and, as such, one can listen to them for the 
allotted checkout time.  In my case, that is 21 days.  Still, it beats paying 
20+ dollars or more for an audio book that I will most likely only listen to, 
once.  And of course, I can check out the books anytime they are available or 
be placed on an automatic waist list.

Should you decide to use Over Drive for audio books, be sure to join as many of 
your local libraries as possible so that you will have the widest selection of 
titles.  For example, sometimes, I will search for a title that is not 
available in one library but is available at another.  

Good luck and enjoy,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Husna Begum
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:30 PM
To: idevices; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reading epub eBooks on overdrive on IPhone

Hi,
 
How can you read epub eBooks on the overdrive app on the IPhone?
 
Thanks, Husna
 
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Michael Maslo]

I have both an iPhone and an android device. In my opinion, I 
could use either or and do no wrong. It becomes a personal preference and 
Accessibility with both platform is almost the same. The fallacy is that most 
people use an Apple don't know much about android and vice a versa. If you use 
android try iOS see what you think. Everybody has their preference as said  so 
my recommendation is go and try both and see what you like most


Sincerely,

Michael Maslo






On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:27 AM -0500, "Ryan Mann"  wrote:










I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular and Be My 
Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another example.  It is really 
easy to use a Braille display with IOS.  Just go into VoiceOver Settings, 
Braille then pair it.  One thing that really annoys me about Android is that 
from what I understand, each phone is laid out differently because each 
manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you learn one, 
you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.  Usually, when I get a new 
iPhone, I am able to get it set up within an hour or less then go on about my 
business.  What really annoys me about Android is that not every phone gets 
updates.  That means that if I am one of the unlucky people who has a phone 
that won't get Android O, I just have to read on mailing lists about the kool 
features while I'm stuck on the earlier version.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
> running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
> got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
> IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
> afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. Please 
> don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is a fallacy 
> since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just something 
> that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
> thanks
> Doug.
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Re: Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Ryan Mann]

I like the blindness apps that are available for IOS.  BeSpecular and Be My 
Eyes are a couple examples.  Money Reader is another example.  It is really 
easy to use a Braille display with IOS.  Just go into VoiceOver Settings, 
Braille then pair it.  One thing that really annoys me about Android is that 
from what I understand, each phone is laid out differently because each 
manufacturer puts its junk on.  An iPhone is an iPhone.  Once you learn one, 
you can use any iPhone that you have your hands on.  Usually, when I get a new 
iPhone, I am able to get it set up within an hour or less then go on about my 
business.  What really annoys me about Android is that not every phone gets 
updates.  That means that if I am one of the unlucky people who has a phone 
that won't get Android O, I just have to read on mailing lists about the kool 
features while I'm stuck on the earlier version.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Douglas Cameron  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV 
> running android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just 
> got myself a brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or 
> IOS is popping into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to 
> afford to get a new device, but I want some input here. Other than the 
> continuity features, please tell me what is so great about IOS today. Please 
> don’t tell me that its got the best accessibility, because that is a fallacy 
> since google is equal, but features, useful new tools, etc just something 
> that would actually sway me more to looking seriously at IOS again.
> thanks
> Doug.
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Can I still download content from iTunes

[Terri Stimmel]

 Hello everyone,


I was just wondering, can I still download content from iTunes, if all I 
have is my windows 7 laptop, and my Apple TV?

I do also have an older Mac laptop. But I am in the process of trying to 
learn all about how it works.


But I would still like to be able to download music, or what have you, 
from iTunes, if possible.

But I wasn't sure if I had to have an iPhone, or something like that, or 
if anyone could just use it?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: [AppleSupportVI] Touch Typing Program for the Mac?

[Harry Bell]

Sorry, I forgot to say that the XType app is the one which is out of date and 
will not work with the latest Sierra. The Keystroke does not appear in U.K. App 
Store for mac. Any other such accessible Mac apps out there?
Harry

> On 19 May 2017, at 04:11, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com [applesupportvi] 
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>At the moment, xType and Keystroke are the accessible ones I know of. I 
> hear that APH is developing a version of Typing Tutor, but I am not sure if 
> that is rumor or not.
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>> On May 18, 2017, at 11:56 AM, 'Snow, Amy L. (TCH)' amy.s...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us 
>> [applesupportvi]  wrote:
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>> Good morning,
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>> I was contacted by a colleague who wonders if there is a good auditory touch 
>> typing program out there for the Mac…she has a student who needs some 
>> instruction.  Any feedback would be appreciated J
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>> Amy
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Convince me guys IOS or no IOS

[Douglas Cameron]

Hey guys. So, yeah yeah flack time…. I currently have a blackberry PRIV running 
android 6.0.1, love the phone yes! But here is my question. I just got myself a 
brand new shiny fast sleek MBP and the question of android or IOS is popping 
into my head. I have a good while before I can afford to afford to get a new 
device, but I want some input here. Other than the continuity features, please 
tell me what is so great about IOS today. Please don’t tell me that its got the 
best accessibility, because that is a fallacy since google is equal, but 
features, useful new tools, etc just something that would actually sway me more 
to looking seriously at IOS again.
thanks
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Re: Looking for a particular calendar app

[Jeff Samco]

Check out Fantastical 2. The developer has been very responsive over 
the years to make the app compatible with VoiceOver. It has a list 
view with each day listed chronologically. There  is just one initial 
tip to give you. The top half of the screen has a few commands and a 
day ticker listing. Instead, touch in the lower half of the screen 
and then you are in the chronological listing. Now, you can flick 
back or forward to move through each day and its events.

BTW, Fantastical syncs perfectly both ways with the native calendar app.
HTH,
Jeff

At 07:44 PM 5/19/2017, you wrote:

Hi all,
I hope someone can let me know if a Calendar app like this exists. I 
am hoping to be able to view upcoming events in their own window, as 
opposed to filtering down by month, and then week, then day. So for 
example, I wanted to see, say, the next five or six events that I 
have coming up, without having to go to the month or week I think 
they are in. Does that make sense? Does anybody know if an app 
exists that has this feature? I am not terribly impressed with the 
native calendar app.

Thank you so much in advance if you can help,
Shermeen

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