Re: setting up an amazon echo

[Robert Doc Wright]

Ray yu can set up the Echo from your pc.
Go to:
http://echo.amazon.com

or 

http://alexa.amazon.com

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  Subject: setting up an amazon echo


  Questions are as follows. Is it normal behavior for the Alexa app to route 
audio away from the speaker and to the phones earpiece? Also, does one need to 
use the app to configure the echo or can one use the PC to configure the echo? 
Finally, is there a user list for these things?  Thanks folks.

  Ray T. Mahorney
  WA4WGA

  Ray T. Mahorney
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RE: setting up an amazon echo

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

I’m sorry I forgot to put the subscribe info in.

The correct address is:

main+subscr...@echoing.groups.io  

Merv

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: setting up an amazon echo

 

He Merv. The link you sent to join the echo list doesn't work. Are you sure 
this is the right address?

 

Shawn

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On Jul 11, 2017, at 7:52 PM, Merv Keck  > wrote:

 

There is a user list for the blind.

  m...@echoing.groups.io

You can set up your echo device using the app or the computer.

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: setting up an amazon echo

 

Questions are as follows. Is it normal behavior for the Alexa app to route 
audio away from the speaker and to the phones earpiece? Also, does one need to 
use the app to configure the echo or can one use the PC to configure the echo? 
Finally, is there a user list for these things?  Thanks folks.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: setting up an amazon echo

[Shawn Krasniuk]

He Merv. The link you sent to join the echo list doesn't work. Are you sure 
this is the right address?

Shawn
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> On Jul 11, 2017, at 7:52 PM, Merv Keck  wrote:
> 
> There is a user list for the blind.
> m...@echoing.groups.io 
> You can set up your echo device using the app or the computer.
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: setting up an amazon echo
>  
> Questions are as follows. Is it normal behavior for the Alexa app to route 
> audio away from the speaker and to the phones earpiece? Also, does one need 
> to use the app to configure the echo or can one use the PC to configure the 
> echo? Finally, is there a user list for these things?  Thanks folks.
> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
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> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
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RE: setting up an amazon echo

[Merv Keck]

There is a user list for the blind.

m...@echoing.groups.io  

You can set up your echo device using the app or the computer.

 

 

 

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: setting up an amazon echo

 

Questions are as follows. Is it normal behavior for the Alexa app to route 
audio away from the speaker and to the phones earpiece? Also, does one need to 
use the app to configure the echo or can one use the PC to configure the echo? 
Finally, is there a user list for these things?  Thanks folks.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


Ray T. Mahorney
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setting up an amazon echo

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

Questions are as follows. Is it normal behavior for the Alexa app to route 
audio away from the speaker and to the phones earpiece? Also, does one need to 
use the app to configure the echo or can one use the PC to configure the echo? 
Finally, is there a user list for these things?  Thanks folks.

Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA

Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: Please explain what I can expect with an encrypted backup of an iPod which will be used to restore as a new iPhone

[Agent086b]

Hi,
I am no expert as I understand things as long as you make an encrypted backup 
all settings will be saved. Although I don’t use it for other things turn on 
key chain and that saves your wireless settings.
 I can assure you that photos will be restored to the new phone. I have done 
this before on my wife’s iPad. If I am wrong I am sure somebody will correct me.
Max. 
> On 12 Jul 2017, at 5:33 am, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I’m helping my daughter later this evening backing up her iPod as an 
> encrypted backup, and setting up a new iPhone from that backup.
>  
> What can I expect? I mean, she’s freaking out that things will go missing or 
> awry.
>  
> I’m looking for what I can tell her before hand to expect when we finish the 
> planned restore from her encrupted backup.
>  
> What will be there. What wil not.
>  
> I think her apps will need to be downloaded once again, but they will all be 
> there.
>  
> And, I think she will need to download her music from the cloud again.
>  
> Will her photos be there?
>  
> Any of the above info, and whatever else others think may be good for me to 
> know beforehand, will be much appreciated.
>  
> Thanks in advance, Keith
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Calibrating your Apple Watch for improved Workout and Activity accuracy

[M. Taylor]

Your Apple Watch uses the personal information that you provide to help
calculate metrics for your workouts and daily activity.

Workout app

You can calibrate your Apple Watch to improve the accuracy of your distance,
pace, and calorie measurements. Calibrating your watch can also help it
learn your fitness level and stride, which improves accuracy when GPS is
limited or unavailable. 

Calibrate your Apple Watch

Before you try to calibrate your Apple Watch, check these settings on your
iPhone:
1.Tap Settings > Privacy > Location Services and make sure that Location
Services is turned on.
2.Tap Settings > Privacy > Location Services > System Services and make sure
that Motion Calibration & Distance is turned on.

After you check the settings, you can calibrate your Apple Watch:
1.While wearing your Apple Watch, go to a flat, open outdoor area that
offers good GPS reception and clear skies. 
2.If you don't have an Apple Watch Series 2, bring your iPhone for GPS. Hold
your iPhone in your hand, or wear it on an armband or waistband.
3.Open the Workout app and choose an Outdoor Walk or Outdoor Run.
4.Choose your goal or select Open. Tap Start.
5.Walk or run at your normal pace for about 20 minutes.

If you don't have time to finish the workout, you can complete 20 minutes
over multiple outdoor Workout sessions. If you work out at different speeds,
you should also calibrate for 20 minutes at each of the speeds that you walk
or run.

Whenever you walk or run outside using the above steps, your Apple Watch
continues to calibrate the accelerometer by learning your stride length at
different speeds. Calibration can also improve the accuracy of your calorie
calculations in the Workout app, and the calorie, distance, Move, and
Exercise calculations in the Activity app. 

Reset your calibration data
If you want to reset your calibration data, open the Apple Watch app on your
iPhone. Tap the My Watch tab, then tap Privacy > Motion & Fitness > Reset
Calibration Data. 

Update your personal information

Your personal information, such as your height, weight, gender, and age, is
one of the things your Apple Watch uses to calculate how many calories you
burn and more. To update your personal information:
1.Open the Apple Watch app on your iPhone. 
2.Tap the My Watch tab.
3.Tap Health > Edit.
4.Tap the item that you want to change and adjust it.
5.Tap Done.  
  
Published Date: Apr 28, 2017

Original Article:
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Please explain what I can expect with an encrypted backup of an iPod which will be used to restore as a new iPhone

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I'm helping my daughter later this evening backing up her iPod as an encrypted 
backup, and setting up a new iPhone from that backup.

What can I expect? I mean, she's freaking out that things will go missing or 
awry.

I'm looking for what I can tell her before hand to expect when we finish the 
planned restore from her encrupted backup.

What will be there. What wil not.

I think her apps will need to be downloaded once again, but they will all be 
there.

And, I think she will need to download her music from the cloud again.

Will her photos be there?

Any of the above info, and whatever else others think may be good for me to 
know beforehand, will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: Why is my onscreen keyboard missing in FB messenger?

[Mike Ulrich]

It's called stupid IPhone tricks!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why is my onscreen keyboard missing in FB messenger?

Well, I hadn't updated the app recently. But once I did the onscreen keyboard 
came back. Go figure.

On 7/11/17, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> Perhaps this is due to a recent update to the Messenger app?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:39 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Why is my onscreen keyboard missing in FB messenger?
>
> Hi all,
>
> I don't understand what happened. I haven't used FB messenger in the 
> last two months or so. But when I opened the app today I was unable to 
> get the onscreen keyboard to come up. The message field said I was 
> editing and when I connected my Bluetooth keyboard I was able to type, 
> but where's the onscreen keyboard?
>
> I don't have this issue in other apps.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Why is my onscreen keyboard missing in FB messenger?

[Kimber Gardner]

Well, I hadn't updated the app recently. But once I did the onscreen
keyboard came back. Go figure.

On 7/11/17, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> Perhaps this is due to a recent update to the Messenger app?
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:39 PM
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> Subject: Why is my onscreen keyboard missing in FB messenger?
>
> Hi all,
>
> I don't understand what happened. I haven't used FB messenger in the last
> two months or so. But when I opened the app today I was unable to get the
> onscreen keyboard to come up. The message field said I was editing and when
> I connected my Bluetooth keyboard I was able to type, but where's the
> onscreen keyboard?
>
> I don't have this issue in other apps.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
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RE: Why is my onscreen keyboard missing in FB messenger?

[Mike Ulrich]

Perhaps this is due to a recent update to the Messenger app?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:39 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Why is my onscreen keyboard missing in FB messenger?

Hi all,

I don't understand what happened. I haven't used FB messenger in the last two 
months or so. But when I opened the app today I was unable to get the onscreen 
keyboard to come up. The message field said I was editing and when I connected 
my Bluetooth keyboard I was able to type, but where's the onscreen keyboard?

I don't have this issue in other apps.

Any ideas?

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RE: finger print only working one out of five

[Mike Ulrich]

Ed, does this Otter Box work with finger prints?

I know my previous Otter Box Defender did not work with finger prints 
whatsoever.

On the other hand, my new Otter Box Armor case does work with finger prints.

Like they say, an Otter Box is not an Otter Box.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:45 PM
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Subject: finger print only working one out of five

 

Hi All,

On my friend’s 6s plus the finger print reader has only been working about one 
out of five times. My friend said he has taken off the old finger prints and 
made new ones three or four times with no better results. He has used different 
finger for the finger prints.  This just started happening on his 6s plus. 
Before that it had been working fine. He has the raise to wake feature turn on. 
He does have an Otterbox case on it. Any suggestions on how to solve the issue 
with the finger print reader not working well to get into the iPhone would be 
appreciated.

Mr. Ed

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finger print only working one out of five

[Mr. Ed]

Hi All,

On my friend's 6s plus the finger print reader has only been working about
one out of five times. My friend said he has taken off the old finger prints
and made new ones three or four times with no better results. He has used
different finger for the finger prints.  This just started happening on his
6s plus. Before that it had been working fine. He has the raise to wake
feature turn on. He does have an Otterbox case on it. Any suggestions on how
to solve the issue with the finger print reader not working well to get into
the iPhone would be appreciated.

Mr. Ed

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Why is my onscreen keyboard missing in FB messenger?

[Kimber Gardner]

Hi all,

I don't understand what happened. I haven't used FB messenger in the
last two months or so. But when I opened the app today I was unable to
get the onscreen keyboard to come up. The message field said I was
editing and when I connected my Bluetooth keyboard I was able to type,
but where's the onscreen keyboard?

I don't have this issue in other apps.

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RE: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

[Chris Smart]

as in a way to possibly sign a document digitally.

you haven't had someone mail you a PDF document they need signed and 
emailed back to them?


At 05:49 AM 7/11/2017, you wrote:

I think I see where you're going with this, but could you elaborate a bit?
Signature; as in using for what?
Thanks and much appreciated!

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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

it sounds as though we may be able to input a signature and have it 
placed on the document. If it is like this, it could be immensely useful!

Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM
>
> How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
>
> Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the
> need to install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with
> the release of iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with
> the ability sign, share and save a scanned doc to your device.
> Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it
> into the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
> Scan a document
> Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the
> Notes app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, 
if you want).

> Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
> A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and
> looking for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device
> directly above the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed
> its document scanner to work from various angles.
> Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a
> scan - you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there
> is a button to manually capture an image if it's struggling to 
find the document.

> A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left
> corner, and the scanner will remain open to continue scanning multiple
> pages. When you're done, tap Save.
> Adjust the scan
> There will be times when the Notes app can't quite make out the exact
> corners of a document, so it will capture a scan but ask you to adjust
> the corners. Drag each magnifying glass corner to the proper spot and
> then tap Save.
> A helpful tip for using the adjustment tool is to not place your
> finger too close to the corner. If you're in the general area, you can
> drag and adjust as needed. Otherwise, you cover the magnifying glass
> and can't see your adjustments.
> Then what?
> Adjust the color scheme of a scanned document, sign, highlight
> sections, share or save the document using the iOS 11 share sheet.
> Select the Markup as PDF option to covert the scan to a PDF, draw on
> it using your finger on an iPhone or iPad, or use the Apple Pencil to
> mark it up on an iPad Pro.
>
> Original Article at:
> https://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-use-ios-11s-notes-app-as-a-document-s
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Re: Another question about gps apps

[Chris Smart]

that was useful Sandy.

At 05:11 AM 7/11/2017, you wrote:
I think you are confusing Ariadne in the 
Minotaurs Labyrinth with Hansel and Gretel.


The problem with breadcrumbs is birds tend to eat them!
Best wishes, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:20, 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

>
> On the outward trip, you make way-points at 
key locations as you go,  then to return, you 
go back from point to point in the reverse

> order you made them.
>
> I believe there is an old legend about a hero 
searching out the beast in a maze, and did use 
bread crumbs to mark his way out again.

> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Pryor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>
>
> What is breadcrumb navigation.
> Jud
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 9 Jul 2017, at 19:02, Chip Orange  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce

>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>
>> The app is called My Way Lite from the Swiss Federation of the blind.
>> It provides breadcrumb  navigation and directs the blind end user
>> through a path not a particular endpoint.  it is free.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>> On 7/9/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
>>> I really like Near-by Explorer, but I don’t think it would be all that
>>> helpful in traversing a specific route which isn’t based on named roads
>>> (that is, I don’t think it can record 
“routes†).  Just like Blind Square, it
>>> could only record the end of the route and 
aim you at it.  Either of these

>>> could also allow you to record way points along your route, but you would
>>> have to remember to switch to the correct  next waypoint each time you
>>> arrived at one.  I believe Near-by Explorer is better at getting you to a
>>> point in that it allows you to use your 
phone as a “pointer†, and it will
>>> indicate to you when you have the end of 
your phone pointed directly at the

>>> desired point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think Seeing Eye can record a route of waypoints  however.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hth,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

>>> Of Robert Doc Wright
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To help her out she and her husband are moving to a new complex and are
>>> hoping to create a POI at the mailbox then 
set a gps app to plan a route to

>>> that poi.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> From: Richard Turner 
>>>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 1:38 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Blind Square is not strictly speaking a GPS 
app. It does not do turn-by-turn

>>> directions.
>>>
>>> But, once you find the point of interest 
you want, Blind Square can launch

>>> Google maps, Apple Maps, or several paid GPS apps.
>>>
>>> If all you want is the turn-by-turn directions, Google Maps does a fine
>>> job.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Lelia  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, so here is a question, I know with google maps you can get
>>> directions say from your place to a store 
or something like that.  Can you
>>> do the same with a GPS app like 
blindsquare? Say can you get directions from

>>> my house to a point of interest? Is there a GPS app that can do something
>>> like that?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any tips you can give.
>>>
>>> Lelia
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Code for lift and Iberia am trying to sign up with lift and uber. I am unable to find the place in either app to enter the code. Could someone please help.

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Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

[Shaf Patel]

If this was made accessible, just think of the possibilities!

No more begging sighted folks for help signing legal documents.


Also, iOS 11 will not support 32 bit apps. If this is something you care
about, don't upgrade until the developer updates the app.


On 7/11/2017 8:52 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
> True Richard,
> but think of this, we are not the only ones to find digitising text useful. 
> so, I suspect, even if it doesn't come out with this iOS, it may follow in 
> fairly rapid succession! also, and perhaps I am misunderstanding this, think 
> of the size of the screen of your phone: The image of, say, an A4 or foolscap 
> piece of paper, would be quite small. people would find it very difficult to 
> write a signature in the appropriate space on such a small image. 
> nevertheless, mention of the ability to add a signature is there. so, there 
> must be a way to transpose a signature from the screen which can be placed at 
> the right size and in the right place onto the image.
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I would not get too excited about this feature until we hear if this will be 
>> at all VoiceOver accessible.
>> There is no mention of OCR at this point, just capturing images.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that does sound pretty cool!
>>> Here's hopeing 11.0 will indeed do that!
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:36 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
>>>
>>> it's very loose thinking at this point, but let's say I have a document 
>>> that I need to sign: perhaps, it will be possible to write your signature 
>>> with your finger on your phone screen and have it placed in the document. 
>>> placed in the correct position, that is. then I could either print it out 
>>> and submit it or send it electronically. conversely, perhaps we will be 
>>> able to import into the Notes app from, say, an email attachment, and be 
>>> able to sign it just by writing on the screen.
>>>
>>> I have experienced being on my own and needing to get a document signed 
>>> quickly and have had, unfortunately, to search around my friends to find 
>>> someone who had time to come over and help me sign it. I am hoping that 
>>> this new functionality might help me out in this respect. Plus, I like my 
>>> privacy!
>>>
>>> just being hopeful, Sandy
>>>
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>
 On 11 Jul 2017, at 10:49, Mike Ulrich  wrote:

 I think I see where you're going with this, but could you elaborate a bit?
 Signature; as in using for what?
 Thanks and much appreciated!

 -Original Message-
 From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:07 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - 
 CNET

 it sounds as though we may be able to input a signature and have it placed 
 on the document. If it is like this, it could be immensely useful!
 Sandy

 sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM
>
> How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
>
> Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the 
> need to install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with 
> the release of iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with 
> the ability sign, share and save a scanned doc to your device.
> Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it 
> into the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
> Scan a document
> Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the 
> Notes app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, if you 
> want).
> Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
> A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and 
> looking for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device 
> directly above the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed 
> its document scanner to work from various angles.
> Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a 
> scan - you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there 
> is a button to manually capture an image if it's struggling to find the 
> document.
> A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left 
> corner, and the scanner will remain open to continue scanning 
> 

Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

True Richard,
but think of this, we are not the only ones to find digitising text useful. so, 
I suspect, even if it doesn't come out with this iOS, it may follow in fairly 
rapid succession! also, and perhaps I am misunderstanding this, think of the 
size of the screen of your phone: The image of, say, an A4 or foolscap piece of 
paper, would be quite small. people would find it very difficult to write a 
signature in the appropriate space on such a small image. nevertheless, mention 
of the ability to add a signature is there. so, there must be a way to 
transpose a signature from the screen which can be placed at the right size and 
in the right place onto the image.

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would not get too excited about this feature until we hear if this will be 
> at all VoiceOver accessible.
> There is no mention of OCR at this point, just capturing images.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
>> 
>> Now that does sound pretty cool!
>> Here's hopeing 11.0 will indeed do that!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
>> 
>> it's very loose thinking at this point, but let's say I have a document that 
>> I need to sign: perhaps, it will be possible to write your signature with 
>> your finger on your phone screen and have it placed in the document. placed 
>> in the correct position, that is. then I could either print it out and 
>> submit it or send it electronically. conversely, perhaps we will be able to 
>> import into the Notes app from, say, an email attachment, and be able to 
>> sign it just by writing on the screen.
>> 
>> I have experienced being on my own and needing to get a document signed 
>> quickly and have had, unfortunately, to search around my friends to find 
>> someone who had time to come over and help me sign it. I am hoping that this 
>> new functionality might help me out in this respect. Plus, I like my privacy!
>> 
>> just being hopeful, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 10:49, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think I see where you're going with this, but could you elaborate a bit?
>>> Signature; as in using for what?
>>> Thanks and much appreciated!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:07 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - 
>>> CNET
>>> 
>>> it sounds as though we may be able to input a signature and have it placed 
>>> on the document. If it is like this, it could be immensely useful!
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
 On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM
 
 How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
 
 Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the 
 need to install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with 
 the release of iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with 
 the ability sign, share and save a scanned doc to your device.
 Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it 
 into the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
 Scan a document
 Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the 
 Notes app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, if you 
 want).
 Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
 A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and 
 looking for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device 
 directly above the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed 
 its document scanner to work from various angles.
 Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a 
 scan - you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there 
 is a button to manually capture an image if it's struggling to find the 
 document.
 A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left 
 corner, and the scanner will remain open to continue scanning 
 multiple pages. When you're done, tap Save.
 Adjust the scan
 There will be times when the Notes app can't quite make out the exact 
 corners of a document, so it will capture a scan but ask you to 
 adjust the corners. Drag each magnifying glass corner to the proper 
 spot and then tap Save.
 A helpful tip for using the adjustment tool is to not place your 
 finger too close to the 

Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

[Richard Turner]

I would not get too excited about this feature until we hear if this will be at 
all VoiceOver accessible.
There is no mention of OCR at this point, just capturing images.
Richard


> On Jul 11, 2017, at 4:14 AM, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> 
> Now that does sound pretty cool!
> Here's hopeing 11.0 will indeed do that!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
> 
> it's very loose thinking at this point, but let's say I have a document that 
> I need to sign: perhaps, it will be possible to write your signature with 
> your finger on your phone screen and have it placed in the document. placed 
> in the correct position, that is. then I could either print it out and submit 
> it or send it electronically. conversely, perhaps we will be able to import 
> into the Notes app from, say, an email attachment, and be able to sign it 
> just by writing on the screen.
> 
> I have experienced being on my own and needing to get a document signed 
> quickly and have had, unfortunately, to search around my friends to find 
> someone who had time to come over and help me sign it. I am hoping that this 
> new functionality might help me out in this respect. Plus, I like my privacy!
> 
> just being hopeful, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 10:49, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I see where you're going with this, but could you elaborate a bit?
>> Signature; as in using for what?
>> Thanks and much appreciated!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - 
>> CNET
>> 
>> it sounds as though we may be able to input a signature and have it placed 
>> on the document. If it is like this, it could be immensely useful!
>> Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM
>>> 
>>> How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
>>> 
>>> Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the 
>>> need to install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with 
>>> the release of iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with 
>>> the ability sign, share and save a scanned doc to your device.
>>> Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it 
>>> into the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
>>> Scan a document
>>> Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the 
>>> Notes app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, if you 
>>> want).
>>> Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
>>> A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and 
>>> looking for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device 
>>> directly above the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed 
>>> its document scanner to work from various angles.
>>> Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a 
>>> scan - you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there 
>>> is a button to manually capture an image if it's struggling to find the 
>>> document.
>>> A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left 
>>> corner, and the scanner will remain open to continue scanning 
>>> multiple pages. When you're done, tap Save.
>>> Adjust the scan
>>> There will be times when the Notes app can't quite make out the exact 
>>> corners of a document, so it will capture a scan but ask you to 
>>> adjust the corners. Drag each magnifying glass corner to the proper 
>>> spot and then tap Save.
>>> A helpful tip for using the adjustment tool is to not place your 
>>> finger too close to the corner. If you're in the general area, you 
>>> can drag and adjust as needed. Otherwise, you cover the magnifying 
>>> glass and can't see your adjustments.
>>> Then what?
>>> Adjust the color scheme of a scanned document, sign, highlight 
>>> sections, share or save the document using the iOS 11 share sheet.
>>> Select the Markup as PDF option to covert the scan to a PDF, draw on 
>>> it using your finger on an iPhone or iPad, or use the Apple Pencil to 
>>> mark it up on an iPad Pro.
>>> 
>>> Original Article at:
>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-use-ios-11s-notes-app-as-a-document-
>>> s
>>> canner
>>> /#ftag=CAD590a51e
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

[Mike Ulrich]

Now that does sound pretty cool!
Here's hopeing 11.0 will indeed do that!

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

it's very loose thinking at this point, but let's say I have a document that I 
need to sign: perhaps, it will be possible to write your signature with your 
finger on your phone screen and have it placed in the document. placed in the 
correct position, that is. then I could either print it out and submit it or 
send it electronically. conversely, perhaps we will be able to import into the 
Notes app from, say, an email attachment, and be able to sign it just by 
writing on the screen.

I have experienced being on my own and needing to get a document signed quickly 
and have had, unfortunately, to search around my friends to find someone who 
had time to come over and help me sign it. I am hoping that this new 
functionality might help me out in this respect. Plus, I like my privacy!

just being hopeful, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 10:49, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> 
> I think I see where you're going with this, but could you elaborate a bit?
> Signature; as in using for what?
> Thanks and much appreciated!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - 
> CNET
> 
> it sounds as though we may be able to input a signature and have it placed on 
> the document. If it is like this, it could be immensely useful!
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM
>> 
>> How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
>> 
>> Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the 
>> need to install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with 
>> the release of iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with 
>> the ability sign, share and save a scanned doc to your device.
>> Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it 
>> into the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
>> Scan a document
>> Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the 
>> Notes app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, if you 
>> want).
>> Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
>> A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and 
>> looking for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device 
>> directly above the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed 
>> its document scanner to work from various angles.
>> Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a 
>> scan - you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there 
>> is a button to manually capture an image if it's struggling to find the 
>> document.
>> A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left 
>> corner, and the scanner will remain open to continue scanning 
>> multiple pages. When you're done, tap Save.
>> Adjust the scan
>> There will be times when the Notes app can't quite make out the exact 
>> corners of a document, so it will capture a scan but ask you to 
>> adjust the corners. Drag each magnifying glass corner to the proper 
>> spot and then tap Save.
>> A helpful tip for using the adjustment tool is to not place your 
>> finger too close to the corner. If you're in the general area, you 
>> can drag and adjust as needed. Otherwise, you cover the magnifying 
>> glass and can't see your adjustments.
>> Then what?
>> Adjust the color scheme of a scanned document, sign, highlight 
>> sections, share or save the document using the iOS 11 share sheet.
>> Select the Markup as PDF option to covert the scan to a PDF, draw on 
>> it using your finger on an iPhone or iPad, or use the Apple Pencil to 
>> mark it up on an iPad Pro.
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> https://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-use-ios-11s-notes-app-as-a-document-
>> s
>> canner
>> /#ftag=CAD590a51e
>> 
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Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

it's very loose thinking at this point, but let's say I have a document that I 
need to sign: perhaps, it will be possible to write your signature with your 
finger on your phone screen and have it placed in the document. placed in the 
correct position, that is. then I could either print it out and submit it or 
send it electronically. conversely, perhaps we will be able to import into the 
Notes app from, say, an email attachment, and be able to sign it just by 
writing on the screen.

I have experienced being on my own and needing to get a document signed quickly 
and have had, unfortunately, to search around my friends to find someone who 
had time to come over and help me sign it. I am hoping that this new 
functionality might help me out in this respect. Plus, I like my privacy!

just being hopeful, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 10:49, Mike Ulrich  wrote:
> 
> I think I see where you're going with this, but could you elaborate a bit?
> Signature; as in using for what?
> Thanks and much appreciated!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
> 
> it sounds as though we may be able to input a signature and have it placed on 
> the document. If it is like this, it could be immensely useful!
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM
>> 
>> How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
>> 
>> Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the 
>> need to install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with 
>> the release of iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with 
>> the ability sign, share and save a scanned doc to your device.
>> Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it 
>> into the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
>> Scan a document
>> Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the 
>> Notes app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, if you 
>> want).
>> Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
>> A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and 
>> looking for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device 
>> directly above the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed 
>> its document scanner to work from various angles.
>> Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a 
>> scan - you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there 
>> is a button to manually capture an image if it's struggling to find the 
>> document.
>> A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left 
>> corner, and the scanner will remain open to continue scanning multiple 
>> pages. When you're done, tap Save.
>> Adjust the scan
>> There will be times when the Notes app can't quite make out the exact 
>> corners of a document, so it will capture a scan but ask you to adjust 
>> the corners. Drag each magnifying glass corner to the proper spot and 
>> then tap Save.
>> A helpful tip for using the adjustment tool is to not place your 
>> finger too close to the corner. If you're in the general area, you can 
>> drag and adjust as needed. Otherwise, you cover the magnifying glass 
>> and can't see your adjustments.
>> Then what?
>> Adjust the color scheme of a scanned document, sign, highlight 
>> sections, share or save the document using the iOS 11 share sheet.
>> Select the Markup as PDF option to covert the scan to a PDF, draw on 
>> it using your finger on an iPhone or iPad, or use the Apple Pencil to 
>> mark it up on an iPad Pro.
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> https://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-use-ios-11s-notes-app-as-a-document-s
>> canner
>> /#ftag=CAD590a51e
>> 
>> 
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RE: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

[Mike Ulrich]

I think I see where you're going with this, but could you elaborate a bit?
Signature; as in using for what?
Thanks and much appreciated!

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

it sounds as though we may be able to input a signature and have it placed on 
the document. If it is like this, it could be immensely useful!
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM
> 
> How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
> 
> Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the 
> need to install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with 
> the release of iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with 
> the ability sign, share and save a scanned doc to your device.
> Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it 
> into the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
> Scan a document
> Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the 
> Notes app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, if you 
> want).
> Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
> A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and 
> looking for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device 
> directly above the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed 
> its document scanner to work from various angles.
> Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a 
> scan - you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there 
> is a button to manually capture an image if it's struggling to find the 
> document.
> A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left 
> corner, and the scanner will remain open to continue scanning multiple 
> pages. When you're done, tap Save.
> Adjust the scan
> There will be times when the Notes app can't quite make out the exact 
> corners of a document, so it will capture a scan but ask you to adjust 
> the corners. Drag each magnifying glass corner to the proper spot and 
> then tap Save.
> A helpful tip for using the adjustment tool is to not place your 
> finger too close to the corner. If you're in the general area, you can 
> drag and adjust as needed. Otherwise, you cover the magnifying glass 
> and can't see your adjustments.
> Then what?
> Adjust the color scheme of a scanned document, sign, highlight 
> sections, share or save the document using the iOS 11 share sheet.
> Select the Markup as PDF option to covert the scan to a PDF, draw on 
> it using your finger on an iPhone or iPad, or use the Apple Pencil to 
> mark it up on an iPad Pro.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-use-ios-11s-notes-app-as-a-document-s
> canner
> /#ftag=CAD590a51e
> 
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RE: Another question about gps apps

[Mike Ulrich]

That's the great thing about way points! Birds don't seem to like them! Nor 
anything else that creepeth or crawleth abouts the earth!
Russian hackers? Now that's another whole different ball game!

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps

I think you are confusing Ariadne in the Minotaurs Labyrinth with Hansel and 
Gretel.

The problem with breadcrumbs is birds tend to eat them!
Best wishes, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:20, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> On the outward trip, you make way-points at key locations as you go,  
> then to return, you go back from point to point in the reverse order you made 
> them.
> 
> I believe there is an old legend about a hero searching out the beast in a 
> maze, and did use bread crumbs to mark his way out again.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Pryor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
> 
> 
> What is breadcrumb navigation.
> Jud
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 9 Jul 2017, at 19:02, Chip Orange  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>> 
>> The app is called My Way Lite from the Swiss Federation of the blind.
>> It provides breadcrumb  navigation and directs the blind end user 
>> through a path not a particular endpoint.  it is free.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>>> On 7/9/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
>>> I really like Near-by Explorer, but I don’t think it would be all 
>>> that helpful in traversing a specific route which isn’t based on 
>>> named roads (that is, I don’t think it can record “routes”).  Just 
>>> like Blind Square, it could only record the end of the route and aim 
>>> you at it.  Either of these could also allow you to record way 
>>> points along your route, but you would have to remember to switch to 
>>> the correct  next waypoint each time you arrived at one.  I believe 
>>> Near-by Explorer is better at getting you to a point in that it 
>>> allows you to use your phone as a “pointer”, and it will indicate to 
>>> you when you have the end of your phone pointed directly at the desired 
>>> point.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think Seeing Eye can record a route of waypoints  however.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hth,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chip
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To help her out she and her husband are moving to a new complex and 
>>> are hoping to create a POI at the mailbox then set a gps app to plan 
>>> a route to that poi.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> 
>>> From: Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 1:38 PM
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Blind Square is not strictly speaking a GPS app. It does not do 
>>> turn-by-turn directions.
>>> 
>>> But, once you find the point of interest you want, Blind Square can 
>>> launch Google maps, Apple Maps, or several paid GPS apps.
>>> 
>>> If all you want is the turn-by-turn directions, Google Maps does a 
>>> fine job.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Lelia  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, so here is a question, I know with google maps you can get 
>>> directions say from your place to a store or something like that.  
>>> Can you do the same with a GPS app like blindsquare? Say can you get 
>>> directions from my house to a point of interest? Is there a GPS app 
>>> that can do something like that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any tips you can give.
>>> 
>>> Lelia
>>> 
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RE: Another question about gps apps

[Mike Ulrich]

Not for the good ones!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps

Yes but breadcrumbs are only twopence a bag.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 10:11, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think you are confusing Ariadne in the Minotaurs Labyrinth with Hansel and 
> Gretel.
> 
> The problem with breadcrumbs is birds tend to eat them!
> Best wishes, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:20, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On the outward trip, you make way-points at key locations as you go,  
>> then to return, you go back from point to point in the reverse order you 
>> made them.
>> 
>> I believe there is an old legend about a hero searching out the beast in a 
>> maze, and did use bread crumbs to mark his way out again.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Judy Pryor" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>> 
>> 
>> What is breadcrumb navigation.
>> Jud
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 9 Jul 2017, at 19:02, Chip Orange  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:51 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>> 
>>> The app is called My Way Lite from the Swiss Federation of the blind.
>>> It provides breadcrumb  navigation and directs the blind end user 
>>> through a path not a particular endpoint.  it is free.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
 On 7/9/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
 I really like Near-by Explorer, but I don’t think it would be all 
 that helpful in traversing a specific route which isn’t based on 
 named roads (that is, I don’t think it can record “routes”).  Just 
 like Blind Square, it could only record the end of the route and 
 aim you at it.  Either of these could also allow you to record way 
 points along your route, but you would have to remember to switch 
 to the correct  next waypoint each time you arrived at one.  I 
 believe Near-by Explorer is better at getting you to a point in 
 that it allows you to use your phone as a “pointer”, and it will 
 indicate to you when you have the end of your phone pointed directly at 
 the desired point.
 
 
 
 I think Seeing Eye can record a route of waypoints  however.
 
 
 
 
 
 Hth,
 
 
 
 Chip
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
 Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:30 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
 
 
 
 To help her out she and her husband are moving to a new complex and 
 are hoping to create a POI at the mailbox then set a gps app to 
 plan a route to that poi.
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Richard Turner 
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 1:38 PM
 
 Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
 
 
 
 
 
 Blind Square is not strictly speaking a GPS app. It does not do 
 turn-by-turn directions.
 
 But, once you find the point of interest you want, Blind Square can 
 launch Google maps, Apple Maps, or several paid GPS apps.
 
 If all you want is the turn-by-turn directions, Google Maps does a 
 fine job.
 
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 8, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Lelia  wrote:
 
 Hi all, so here is a question, I know with google maps you can get 
 directions say from your place to a store or something like that.  
 Can you do the same with a GPS app like blindsquare? Say can you 
 get directions from my house to a point of interest? Is there a GPS 
 app that can do something like that?
 
 Thanks for any tips you can give.
 
 Lelia
 
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Re: Another question about gps apps

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Yes but breadcrumbs are only twopence a bag.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 10:11, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think you are confusing Ariadne in the Minotaurs Labyrinth with Hansel and 
> Gretel.
> 
> The problem with breadcrumbs is birds tend to eat them!
> Best wishes, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:20, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On the outward trip, you make way-points at key locations as you go,  then 
>> to return, you go back from point to point in the reverse 
>> order you made them.
>> 
>> I believe there is an old legend about a hero searching out the beast in a 
>> maze, and did use bread crumbs to mark his way out again.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Judy Pryor" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>> 
>> 
>> What is breadcrumb navigation.
>> Jud
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 9 Jul 2017, at 19:02, Chip Orange  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:51 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>> 
>>> The app is called My Way Lite from the Swiss Federation of the blind.
>>> It provides breadcrumb  navigation and directs the blind end user
>>> through a path not a particular endpoint.  it is free.
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
 On 7/9/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
 I really like Near-by Explorer, but I don’t think it would be all that
 helpful in traversing a specific route which isn’t based on named roads
 (that is, I don’t think it can record “routes”).  Just like Blind Square, 
 it
 could only record the end of the route and aim you at it.  Either of these
 could also allow you to record way points along your route, but you would
 have to remember to switch to the correct  next waypoint each time you
 arrived at one.  I believe Near-by Explorer is better at getting you to a
 point in that it allows you to use your phone as a “pointer”, and it will
 indicate to you when you have the end of your phone pointed directly at the
 desired point.
 
 
 
 I think Seeing Eye can record a route of waypoints  however.
 
 
 
 
 
 Hth,
 
 
 
 Chip
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Robert Doc Wright
 Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:30 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
 
 
 
 To help her out she and her husband are moving to a new complex and are
 hoping to create a POI at the mailbox then set a gps app to plan a route to
 that poi.
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Richard Turner 
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 1:38 PM
 
 Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
 
 
 
 
 
 Blind Square is not strictly speaking a GPS app. It does not do 
 turn-by-turn
 directions.
 
 But, once you find the point of interest you want, Blind Square can launch
 Google maps, Apple Maps, or several paid GPS apps.
 
 If all you want is the turn-by-turn directions, Google Maps does a fine
 job.
 
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 8, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Lelia  wrote:
 
 Hi all, so here is a question, I know with google maps you can get
 directions say from your place to a store or something like that.  Can you
 do the same with a GPS app like blindsquare? Say can you get directions 
 from
 my house to a point of interest? Is there a GPS app that can do something
 like that?
 
 Thanks for any tips you can give.
 
 Lelia
 
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Re: Another question about gps apps

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

I think you are confusing Ariadne in the Minotaurs Labyrinth with Hansel and 
Gretel.

The problem with breadcrumbs is birds tend to eat them!
Best wishes, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:20, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> On the outward trip, you make way-points at key locations as you go,  then to 
> return, you go back from point to point in the reverse 
> order you made them.
> 
> I believe there is an old legend about a hero searching out the beast in a 
> maze, and did use bread crumbs to mark his way out again.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Judy Pryor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
> 
> 
> What is breadcrumb navigation.
> Jud
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 9 Jul 2017, at 19:02, Chip Orange  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>> 
>> The app is called My Way Lite from the Swiss Federation of the blind.
>> It provides breadcrumb  navigation and directs the blind end user
>> through a path not a particular endpoint.  it is free.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>>> On 7/9/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
>>> I really like Near-by Explorer, but I don’t think it would be all that
>>> helpful in traversing a specific route which isn’t based on named roads
>>> (that is, I don’t think it can record “routes”).  Just like Blind Square, it
>>> could only record the end of the route and aim you at it.  Either of these
>>> could also allow you to record way points along your route, but you would
>>> have to remember to switch to the correct  next waypoint each time you
>>> arrived at one.  I believe Near-by Explorer is better at getting you to a
>>> point in that it allows you to use your phone as a “pointer”, and it will
>>> indicate to you when you have the end of your phone pointed directly at the
>>> desired point.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think Seeing Eye can record a route of waypoints  however.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hth,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chip
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Robert Doc Wright
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To help her out she and her husband are moving to a new complex and are
>>> hoping to create a POI at the mailbox then set a gps app to plan a route to
>>> that poi.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> 
>>> From: Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 1:38 PM
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Blind Square is not strictly speaking a GPS app. It does not do turn-by-turn
>>> directions.
>>> 
>>> But, once you find the point of interest you want, Blind Square can launch
>>> Google maps, Apple Maps, or several paid GPS apps.
>>> 
>>> If all you want is the turn-by-turn directions, Google Maps does a fine
>>> job.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Lelia  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, so here is a question, I know with google maps you can get
>>> directions say from your place to a store or something like that.  Can you
>>> do the same with a GPS app like blindsquare? Say can you get directions from
>>> my house to a point of interest? Is there a GPS app that can do something
>>> like that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any tips you can give.
>>> 
>>> Lelia
>>> 
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Re: Another question about gps apps

[Judy Pryor]

thanks so much for your explanation.

all the best

Judy

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:20, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> On the outward trip, you make way-points at key locations as you go,  then to 
> return, you go back from point to point in the reverse 
> order you made them.
> 
> I believe there is an old legend about a hero searching out the beast in a 
> maze, and did use bread crumbs to mark his way out again.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Judy Pryor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
> 
> 
> What is breadcrumb navigation.
> Jud
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 9 Jul 2017, at 19:02, Chip Orange  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>> 
>> The app is called My Way Lite from the Swiss Federation of the blind.
>> It provides breadcrumb  navigation and directs the blind end user
>> through a path not a particular endpoint.  it is free.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>>> On 7/9/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
>>> I really like Near-by Explorer, but I don’t think it would be all that
>>> helpful in traversing a specific route which isn’t based on named roads
>>> (that is, I don’t think it can record “routes”).  Just like Blind Square, it
>>> could only record the end of the route and aim you at it.  Either of these
>>> could also allow you to record way points along your route, but you would
>>> have to remember to switch to the correct  next waypoint each time you
>>> arrived at one.  I believe Near-by Explorer is better at getting you to a
>>> point in that it allows you to use your phone as a “pointer”, and it will
>>> indicate to you when you have the end of your phone pointed directly at the
>>> desired point.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think Seeing Eye can record a route of waypoints  however.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hth,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chip
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Robert Doc Wright
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To help her out she and her husband are moving to a new complex and are
>>> hoping to create a POI at the mailbox then set a gps app to plan a route to
>>> that poi.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> 
>>> From: Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 1:38 PM
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Blind Square is not strictly speaking a GPS app. It does not do turn-by-turn
>>> directions.
>>> 
>>> But, once you find the point of interest you want, Blind Square can launch
>>> Google maps, Apple Maps, or several paid GPS apps.
>>> 
>>> If all you want is the turn-by-turn directions, Google Maps does a fine
>>> job.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Lelia  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, so here is a question, I know with google maps you can get
>>> directions say from your place to a store or something like that.  Can you
>>> do the same with a GPS app like blindsquare? Say can you get directions from
>>> my house to a point of interest? Is there a GPS app that can do something
>>> like that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any tips you can give.
>>> 
>>> Lelia
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Re: How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

it sounds as though we may be able to input a signature and have it placed on 
the document. If it is like this, it could be immensely useful!
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Jul 2017, at 07:06, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM
> 
> How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET
> 
> Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the need to
> install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with the release of
> iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with the ability sign,
> share and save a scanned doc to your device.
> Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it into
> the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
> Scan a document
> Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the Notes
> app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, if you want).
> Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
> A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and looking
> for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device directly above
> the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed its document scanner to
> work from various angles.
> Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a scan -
> you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there is a button to
> manually capture an image if it's struggling to find the document.
> A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left corner, and
> the scanner will remain open to continue scanning multiple pages. When
> you're done, tap Save.
> Adjust the scan
> There will be times when the Notes app can't quite make out the exact
> corners of a document, so it will capture a scan but ask you to adjust the
> corners. Drag each magnifying glass corner to the proper spot and then tap
> Save.
> A helpful tip for using the adjustment tool is to not place your finger too
> close to the corner. If you're in the general area, you can drag and adjust
> as needed. Otherwise, you cover the magnifying glass and can't see your
> adjustments.
> Then what?
> Adjust the color scheme of a scanned document, sign, highlight sections,
> share or save the document using the iOS 11 share sheet.
> Select the Markup as PDF option to covert the scan to a PDF, draw on it
> using your finger on an iPhone or iPad, or use the Apple Pencil to mark it
> up on an iPad Pro.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-use-ios-11s-notes-app-as-a-document-scanner
> /#ftag=CAD590a51e
> 
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Re: Another question about gps apps

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

On the outward trip, you make way-points at key locations as you go,  then to 
return, you go back from point to point in the reverse 
order you made them.

I believe there is an old legend about a hero searching out the beast in a 
maze, and did use bread crumbs to mark his way out again.
- Original Message - 
From: "Judy Pryor" 
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Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps


What is breadcrumb navigation.
Jud

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> On 9 Jul 2017, at 19:02, Chip Orange  wrote:
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> Thanks.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
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> The app is called My Way Lite from the Swiss Federation of the blind.
> It provides breadcrumb  navigation and directs the blind end user
> through a path not a particular endpoint.  it is free.
>
> Kelly
>
>> On 7/9/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
>> I really like Near-by Explorer, but I don’t think it would be all that
>> helpful in traversing a specific route which isn’t based on named roads
>> (that is, I don’t think it can record “routes”).  Just like Blind Square, it
>> could only record the end of the route and aim you at it.  Either of these
>> could also allow you to record way points along your route, but you would
>> have to remember to switch to the correct  next waypoint each time you
>> arrived at one.  I believe Near-by Explorer is better at getting you to a
>> point in that it allows you to use your phone as a “pointer”, and it will
>> indicate to you when you have the end of your phone pointed directly at the
>> desired point.
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>>  I think Seeing Eye can record a route of waypoints  however.
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>> Hth,
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>> Chip
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Robert Doc Wright
>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
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>> To help her out she and her husband are moving to a new complex and are
>> hoping to create a POI at the mailbox then set a gps app to plan a route to
>> that poi.
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>> - Original Message -
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>> From: Richard Turner 
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 1:38 PM
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>> Subject: Re: Another question about gps apps
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>> Blind Square is not strictly speaking a GPS app. It does not do turn-by-turn
>> directions.
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>> But, once you find the point of interest you want, Blind Square can launch
>> Google maps, Apple Maps, or several paid GPS apps.
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>> If all you want is the turn-by-turn directions, Google Maps does a fine
>> job.
>>
>> Richard
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>> On Jul 8, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Lelia  wrote:
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>> Hi all, so here is a question, I know with google maps you can get
>> directions say from your place to a store or something like that.  Can you
>> do the same with a GPS app like blindsquare? Say can you get directions from
>> my house to a point of interest? Is there a GPS app that can do something
>> like that?
>>
>> Thanks for any tips you can give.
>>
>> Lelia
>>
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How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

[M. Taylor]

CNET News - Monday, July 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM

How to use iOS 11's Notes app as a document scanner - CNET

Apple has a habit of building features into iOS that eliminate the need to
install third-party apps for some users. For instance, with the release of
iOS 11, Apple is adding a document scanner, along with the ability sign,
share and save a scanned doc to your device.
Instead of launching the feature in a standalone app, Apple built it into
the Notes app. Here's what you need to know:
Scan a document
Place the document(s) on a flat surface, in a well-lit area. Open the Notes
app, create a new note (or add the scans to a related Note, if you want).
Tap the "+" symbol at the bottom of the screen then select Scan Document.
A camera-like screen will show up, with a yellow box scanning and looking
for a document. It's best if you try to hold your iOS device directly above
the document, but it's not necessary. Apple designed its document scanner to
work from various angles.
Once the app recognizes a document it will automatically capture a scan -
you don't have to do anything other than wait. However, there is a button to
manually capture an image if it's struggling to find the document.
A small thumbnail of each page will be shown in the bottom-left corner, and
the scanner will remain open to continue scanning multiple pages. When
you're done, tap Save.
Adjust the scan
There will be times when the Notes app can't quite make out the exact
corners of a document, so it will capture a scan but ask you to adjust the
corners. Drag each magnifying glass corner to the proper spot and then tap
Save.
A helpful tip for using the adjustment tool is to not place your finger too
close to the corner. If you're in the general area, you can drag and adjust
as needed. Otherwise, you cover the magnifying glass and can't see your
adjustments.
Then what?
Adjust the color scheme of a scanned document, sign, highlight sections,
share or save the document using the iOS 11 share sheet.
Select the Markup as PDF option to covert the scan to a PDF, draw on it
using your finger on an iPhone or iPad, or use the Apple Pencil to mark it
up on an iPad Pro.

Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-use-ios-11s-notes-app-as-a-document-scanner
/#ftag=CAD590a51e


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