RE: Drive Blind

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey that had to be cool,

Yeah branz hatch was once one of the big tracks in motor racing
I didn’t think it was used these days.

Yeah someone looked at something like that here in NZ years ago vbut due to 
insurance or health safety concerns they didn’t let it happen.

and

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2021 1:54 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Drive Blind

I have actually driven at car at Brand’s Hatch, a racing course in England – I 
think at abut 40 miles an hour with a sighted driver beside me who had dual 
controls. I did manage not to crash the car, which is more than I can say when 
playing Blind Drive!
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: 04 April 2021 23:51
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Drive Blind

I had the same thought and just wasn’t going to say anything.

I’ve driven a car with my father in the passenger seat directing,

It’s easy to do but not as easy as one would think,
I feel my having driven prior to going blind was a benefit
Except for when I took out the letter  /mail box at the gate.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 5 April 2021 9:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Drive Blind

Hey, don't think anybody would expect you to be good at driving blind 藍

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alison 
May
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 12:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Drive Blind

Yes, I have downloaded this game and play it,  not that I am very good.
Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

On 3 Apr 2021, at 9:29 pm, Steve Cook 
mailto:stanley7...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

Has anyone tried the Drive Blind app in the AppleVis Newsletter? If yes, what 
are your thoughts?

Steve
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RE: Drive Blind

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ummm, what!?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tiffany
Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2021 12:05 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Drive Blind


珞



On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:54 AM, CJ & AA MAY 
mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have actually driven at car at Brand’s Hatch, a racing course in England – I 
think at abut 40 miles an hour with a sighted driver beside me who had dual 
controls. I did manage not to crash the car, which is more than I can say when 
playing Blind Drive!
Alison


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: 04 April 2021 23:51
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Drive Blind

I had the same thought and just wasn’t going to say anything.

I’ve driven a car with my father in the passenger seat directing,

It’s easy to do but not as easy as one would think,
I feel my having driven prior to going blind was a benefit
Except for when I took out the letter  /mail box at the gate.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 5 April 2021 9:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Drive Blind

Hey, don't think anybody would expect you to be good at driving blind 藍

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alison 
May
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 12:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Drive Blind

Yes, I have downloaded this game and play it,  not that I am very good.
Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

On 3 Apr 2021, at 9:29 pm, Steve Cook 
mailto:stanley7...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

Has anyone tried the Drive Blind app in the AppleVis Newsletter? If yes, what 
are your thoughts?

Steve
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RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Donald,

 

Glad you're enjoying your Tribit MaxSound Plus speaker. That third from the 
left button is the MFB or multifunction button. Below is a table documenting 
the function based on the number of presses of the MFB:

 


Number of presses

Function


Once

Play/pause


Twice

Skip to next track


3 times

Skip to previous track


Once when incoming call

Answer/end the call


Press and hold for 2 seconds when incoming call

Reject the call


Press and hold for 2 seconds

Activate VoiceDial if your device supports it

 

Hope this helps.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

 

First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to Christmas. 
I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great speaker for the price. It 
generates a great sound and more than adequate volume for its size.

 

Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left most 
switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what is the third 
button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, volume up, and the sixth 
switches to auxiliary input mode. But please tell me what the third button from 
the left is used for.

 

Thanks.

 

Don Roberts

 

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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Esther]

thanks for the tip. It was a big help. Take care.

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Esther I take it from reading posts below this that when you get to direct 
> touch in the rota if it is on you double tapp to turn it off and vice versa.  
> hope that helps a bit Janet
> 
> On 05/04/2021 13:48, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay 
>> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save 
>> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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Re: Drive Blind

[Tiffany]

珞


> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:54 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have actually driven at car at Brand’s Hatch, a racing course in England – 
> I think at abut 40 miles an hour with a sighted driver beside me who had dual 
> controls. I did manage not to crash the car, which is more than I can say 
> when playing Blind Drive!
> Alison
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: 04 April 2021 23:51
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Drive Blind
>  
> I had the same thought and just wasn’t going to say anything.
>  
> I’ve driven a car with my father in the passenger seat directing,
>  
> It’s easy to do but not as easy as one would think,
> I feel my having driven prior to going blind was a benefit
> Except for when I took out the letter  /mail box at the gate.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, 5 April 2021 9:20 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Drive Blind
>  
> Hey, don't think anybody would expect you to be good at driving blind 藍
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alison 
> May
> Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 12:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Drive Blind
>  
> Yes, I have downloaded this game and play it,  not that I am very good.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
> 0777 315 8181
>  
> 
> On 3 Apr 2021, at 9:29 pm, Steve Cook  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> Has anyone tried the Drive Blind app in the AppleVis Newsletter? If yes, what 
> are your thoughts?
>  
> Steve
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Re: Apple Arcade

[Donna Casteen]

I recently canceled my 3mo free subscription to Apple arcade. There is only 1 
game that is accessible out of the 78 games that I downloaded that sounded 
somewhat interesting to me.

Donna
 
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> Does anyone know if a totally blind person can play any of the games offered 
> by Apple Arcade?
>  
> Andy
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Re: Apple Arcade

[Brad Snyder]

>From what I have heard, no. An overwhelming majority of the games have zero 
>accessibility.

- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 18:01, Andy Baracco  wrote:


Does anyone know if a totally blind person can play any of the games offered by 
Apple Arcade?
 
Andy
 
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Re: Apple Arcade

[Michael Feir]

The only one which I've had any degree of success with is called Dear
Reader. It's a kind of word puzzle extravaganza based on various books.
Everything seems possible but it takes patience and careful thorough
exploration of the screens. It seems to be one of these cases which is
accessible by accident so it's far from a delight to play but is possible.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:00 PM Andy Baracco  wrote:

> Does anyone know if a totally blind person can play any of the games
> offered by Apple Arcade?
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Apple Arcade

[Andy Baracco]

Does anyone know if a totally blind person can play any of the games offered by 
Apple Arcade?

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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Esther]

RS games is also self voicing. Esther I RS Games is also self voicing. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jannett blind drive is self voicing though so you don't need vo to run it 
> only to start the game and then toggle vo off and the game should just run 
> fine. Btw I am running a I phone 8. From Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
> Bell
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
> 
> Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
> landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
> have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet
> 
>> On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
>> touch. From Mich.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
>> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
>> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>> 
>>> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
>>> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
>>> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
>>> entry.
>>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
>>> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
>>> area.  Things just work.
>>> 
>>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
>>> iOS 1.4.4?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
>>> Snyder
>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>> 
>>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
>>> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
>>> touch area.”
>>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
>>> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site,
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Esther
>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>> 
>>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Esther
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>> 
>>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
>>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
>>> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
>>> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
>>> Esther
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Esther]

I get the same thing in RS Games. Esther

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> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
> 
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
> 
>> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
>> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
>> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
>> entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
>> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
>> area.  Things just work.
>> 
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
>> iOS 1.4.4?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
>> Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
>> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
>> touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
>> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site,
>> www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Esther
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
>> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
>> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
>> Esther
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Re: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I've got a couple of tribbit speakers myself and they make some great
products.  The Tribbit soundsurf is also a great little speaker.

On 4/5/21, Kevin Minor  wrote:
> Hi Don.
>
> The 3rd button is used with a phone to move back and forward between tracks
> in a playlist. It depends on how many times you hit that button as to what
> it does.
>
> Also, the last button on the right turns the bass on and off.
>
> Just letting you know.
>
> Kevin and Jilly
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Donald L. Roberts
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro
>
>
> First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to
> Christmas. I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great speaker for
> the price. It generates a great sound and more than adequate volume for its
> size.
>
>
>
> Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left most
> switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what is the
> third button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, volume up, and
> the sixth switches to auxiliary input mode. But please tell me what the
> third button from the left is used for.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
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>
>
> Don Roberts
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Re: Just how do I do this?

[Brad Snyder]

With VoiceOver focus on the conversation item that contains the link, turn your 
rotor to Links, and swipe down to select the link, and then do a 1-finger 
double-tap to activate the link.
 

- Brad -


On Apr 5, 2021, at 15:34, Donald L. Roberts  wrote:

My iPHone S E 2 is running IOS 14.4.1.



I called Verizon tech support and was offered the option of a text chat. I 
would be sent a link to begin the process.



So the text message containing the link came in right away. But when I viewed 
the message, I couldn't figure out how to get to the link and click on it. 
Please tell me how to do this. Also, I think I recall that text chats do not 
work well with screen readers. Specifically, are such chats easy using Voice 
Over?



Thanks.



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Just how do I do this?

[Donald L. Roberts]

My iPHone S E 2 is running IOS 14.4.1.


I called Verizon tech support and was offered the option of a text chat. 
I would be sent a link to begin the process.



So the text message containing the link came in right away. But when I 
viewed the message, I couldn't figure out how to get to the link and 
click on it. Please tell me how to do this. Also, I think I recall that 
text chats do not work well with screen readers. Specifically, are such 
chats easy using Voice Over?



Thanks.


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ICloud’s backup app size to coincide with app itself?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Apart from very Happy start of another week, I’d like to know how can I, or 
what would I have to do in order for the ICloud backup for instance, Voice 
Dream Reader, or Audio memos (a recording app), for which I’ve deleted a whole 
bunch of files off them from the actual app; when I go into ICloud’s Backup for 
that app, the size of Voice Dream Reader is at 1.61GB, and AudioMemos is still 
showing at 1.51GB? As mentioned before, I emtpied AudioMemo’s Recycle Bin, and 
have taken off several books out of VDR. And money is kind of tight, thus I 
can’t afford to expand my IClou Storage; remember that a dollar here in Mexico 
is $20mxn.
So what am I doing wrong, or what doI need to do with the ICloud backup to 
correspond with the actual apps?

Gera
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RE: Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[Kevin Minor]

Hi Don.

The 3rd button is used with a phone to move back and forward between tracks in 
a playlist. It depends on how many times you hit that button as to what it does.

Also, the last button on the right turns the bass on and off.

Just letting you know.

Kevin and Jilly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
L. Roberts
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question re: Tribit sound max pro


First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to Christmas. 
I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great speaker for the price. It 
generates a great sound and more than adequate volume for its size.



Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left most 
switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what is the third 
button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, volume up, and the sixth 
switches to auxiliary input mode. But please tell me what the third button from 
the left is used for.



Thanks.



Don Roberts


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Question re: Tribit sound max pro

[Donald L. Roberts]

First, sincere thanks to those who recommended this speaker prior to 
Christmas. I got it for Christmas and think it is truly a great speaker 
for the price. It generates a great sound and more than adequate volume 
for its size.



Now for the question: As you view the speaker from the front, the left 
most switch is power: the second, scan for blue tooth signal; but what 
is the third button used for? The fourth is volume down, the fifth, 
volume up, and the sixth switches to auxiliary input mode. But please 
tell me what the third button from the left is used for.



Thanks.


Don Roberts


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Re: Supersense update today

[Shane Lowe]

Absolutely, I'll follow up with our developers Wednesday morning on these! :)

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Yes, the explore button makes sense, which is why I thought the other option
> should be there as well.
> Ind of related to my wish to not have it start automatically.
>
> If all the features were buttons rather than one starting by default then
> you could pick your task when you are ready for it.
> Or, having an option in settings to always start with X feature active...
>
> But yes, putting the Bar code info on the bar code screen will help.
>
> Thanks for being open to suggestions.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
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> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane
> Lowe
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 10:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense update today
>
> Hey Richard,
> Thanks for the feedback! That is a good question, and I'll look into it.
> Accessing barcode labels would probably be a lot more convenient, and
> logical, from the barcode screen itself.
> Also, the explore button remains on the screen so you can easily switch to
> that mode of Supersense. Think of it like the select features button in the
> bottom right corner, except for exploration options.
>
> I hope this helps!
>
>
> On 4/3/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Shane,
>> The barcode update is nice. The barcode speed is quite fast.
>> I have a question, perhaps criticism, about the new Bar Code Label
>> area; why is it buried in settings?
>> To get to the list of bar codes you have added, you have to double tap
>> on Menu, Settings, then Barcode Labels.
>> Why not put it on the main barcode screen?
>> Also, why is the Explore button always there, or at least it seems
>> like it is always in the upper right corner.
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
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RE: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I'm going to be very interested because it talks about Android but no mention 
of syncing with Apple Health for example.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Raikes
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

Thanks that is exactly what I am looking for.  I just purchased it.

I will post a review once I get it.

On 4/4/21, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> This one has Wi-Fi. It’s about the fifth or sixth one down when I did 
> a search foraboleaf scale
>
> Arboleaf Smart Scale, Wi-Fi Bluetooth Weight Scale, 14 Body 
> Composition Monitor with iOS Android APP, Wireless Cloud-Storage for 
> Unlimited Data, 8 Users, BMR BMI Scales Digital Weight and Body Fat by 
> mozdius Learn more:
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085DLBBFS/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_PCP09P3KS5D1
> DB1QQBQW
>
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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> Twitter: @lpnalda
>
>> On Apr 4, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>>
>> I looked at the arboleaf scale on amazon and it is definitely in my 
>> price range right now.  Does it just use bluetooth or is it wifi 
>> connected as well.  The description was unclear about the 
>> connectivity.  I would prefer to have something wifi enabled so I 
>> don't have to have my phone with me when i get on the scale since I 
>> usually leave my iPhone in my office to charge at night and I would 
>> want to use the scale first thing in the morning.
>>
>>> On 3/29/21, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> A couple years ago, we bought the Arboleaf scale. The iPhone app 
>>> works well with Voiceover. This scale measures weight, body fat, 
>>> BMI, water, muscle mass, medibolic age, and BMR.
>>>
>>> Traci
>>>
>>>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Donald Raikes 
> wrote:

 Hi,

 I know a while back I saw some discussion of bathroom scales that 
 are iOS/VoiceOver friendly.

 I thought thte recommended scale was by qardio, but I am not seeing 
 it on amazon.

 Has anyone tried the RENPHO Body Fat Scale?  Is the iOS app accessible?

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Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

[Donald Raikes]

Thanks that is exactly what I am looking for.  I just purchased it.

I will post a review once I get it.

On 4/4/21, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> This one has Wi-Fi. It’s about the fifth or sixth one down when I did a
> search foraboleaf scale
>
> Arboleaf Smart Scale, Wi-Fi Bluetooth Weight Scale, 14 Body Composition
> Monitor with iOS Android APP, Wireless Cloud-Storage for Unlimited Data, 8
> Users, BMR BMI Scales Digital Weight and Body Fat
> by mozdius
> Learn more:
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085DLBBFS/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_PCP09P3KS5D1DB1QQBQW
>
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>
>> On Apr 4, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>>
>> I looked at the arboleaf scale on amazon and it is definitely in my
>> price range right now.  Does it just use bluetooth or is it wifi
>> connected as well.  The description was unclear about the
>> connectivity.  I would prefer to have something wifi enabled so I
>> don't have to have my phone with me when i get on the scale since I
>> usually leave my iPhone in my office to charge at night and I would
>> want to use the scale first thing in the morning.
>>
>>> On 3/29/21, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> A couple years ago, we bought the Arboleaf scale. The iPhone app works
>>> well
>>> with Voiceover. This scale measures weight, body fat, BMI, water, muscle
>>> mass, medibolic age, and BMR.
>>>
>>> Traci
>>>
>>>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Donald Raikes 
> wrote:

 Hi,

 I know a while back I saw some discussion of bathroom scales that are
 iOS/VoiceOver friendly.

 I thought thte recommended scale was by qardio, but I am not seeing it
 on amazon.

 Has anyone tried the RENPHO Body Fat Scale?  Is the iOS app accessible?

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RE: Supersense update today

[Richard Turner]

Yes, the explore button makes sense, which is why I thought the other option 
should be there as well.
Ind of related to my wish to not have it start automatically.

If all the features were buttons rather than one starting by default then you 
could pick your task when you are ready for it.
Or, having an option in settings to always start with X feature active...

But yes, putting the Bar code info on the bar code screen will help.

Thanks for being open to suggestions.
 


Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane 
Lowe
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense update today

Hey Richard,
Thanks for the feedback! That is a good question, and I'll look into it. 
Accessing barcode labels would probably be a lot more convenient, and logical, 
from the barcode screen itself.
Also, the explore button remains on the screen so you can easily switch to that 
mode of Supersense. Think of it like the select features button in the bottom 
right corner, except for exploration options.

I hope this helps!


On 4/3/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Shane,
> The barcode update is nice. The barcode speed is quite fast.
> I have a question, perhaps criticism, about the new Bar Code Label 
> area; why is it buried in settings?
> To get to the list of bar codes you have added, you have to double tap 
> on Menu, Settings, then Barcode Labels.
> Why not put it on the main barcode screen?
> Also, why is the Explore button always there, or at least it seems 
> like it is always in the upper right corner.
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
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Re: Supersense update today

[Shane Lowe]

Hey Richard,
Thanks for the feedback! That is a good question, and I'll look into
it. Accessing barcode labels would probably be a lot more convenient,
and logical, from the barcode screen itself.
Also, the explore button remains on the screen so you can easily
switch to that mode of Supersense. Think of it like the select
features button in the bottom right corner, except for exploration
options.

I hope this helps!


On 4/3/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Shane,
> The barcode update is nice. The barcode speed is quite fast.
> I have a question, perhaps criticism, about the new Bar Code Label area; why
> is it buried in settings?
> To get to the list of bar codes you have added, you have to double tap on
> Menu, Settings, then Barcode Labels.
> Why not put it on the main barcode screen?
> Also, why is the Explore button always there, or at least it seems like it
> is always in the upper right corner.
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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Direct Touch

[Richard Turner]

I don't know if this will help or just add confusion, but here is some 
explanations from AppleVis:
Re: Direct Touch
Submitted by Squirrel on Tuesday, February 2, 2021

For those unfamiliar with Direct Touch, it's a way in which developers can tell 
VoiceOver to ignore touch events in part or all of an app's screen so that the 
app can handle those touch events directly. Examples include virtual 
instruments, exploring a map by touch, interpreting touches and gestures in a 
game, and so on.

Not exactly a new feature
Submitted by dvdmth on Wednesday, February 3, 2021
Club AppleVis Member

Apps have been able to utilize the direct touch feature for years now. As 
described above, an app can designate a portion of the screen as having direct 
interaction, which tells VoiceOver to ignore gestures made in that section of 
the screen, allowing the app to interpret the gestures directly.

What's changed is that you can now enable or disable the direct touch feature 
on an app by app basis. If you disable direct touch for an app, then VoiceOver 
will always interpret gestures made within the app, regardless of whether or 
not the app has designated any part of the screen for direct interaction. You 
may want to do this if an app abuses the direct touch feature, enabling it in a 
portion of the screen that interferes with how you intend to use the app. I 
have not encountered any apps where this would be a problem, but if such an app 
were to show up, then this provides a way to work around the app's behavior and 
hopefully make it more usable.


  *   My summary, If yu are using anything like games, virtual instruments, 
etc, if they are self-voicing, turn off VoiceOver so the app can behave as it 
is designed and VoiceOver won't intercept the gestures.
  *   Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Carolyn]

I can't see how Direct Touch would be good for someone totally blind, but 
possibly people with partial sight might prefer it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just type in 
text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good for a blind 
person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the 
> standard text entry.
> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct 
> Touch area.  Things just work.
>
> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch 
> in iOS 1.4.4?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Brad Snyder
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item 
> in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
> “direct touch area.”
> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> www.turner42.com tp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a0
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>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Esther
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
> - Original Message -
> From: Esther
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not 
> stay there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there 
> was a save button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. 
> Thanks a bunch.
> Esther
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Richard Turner]

Do you have the accessibility shortcut set to triple tap the home button or 
side switch to turn VoiceOver on or off?
If so, start the game, and turn off VoiceOver.

If not, tell Siri to turn off VoiceOver, then tell Siri Goodbye so it gets off 
the screen and you are in your game.


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I have 
the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just 
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good 
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>
> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
>> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
>> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use 
>> the standard text entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
>> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says 
>> Direct Touch area.  Things just work.
>>
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct 
>> Touch in iOS 1.4.4?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C30278379e916446156cc08d8f850d8aa
>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532373411772552%7CUn
>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
>> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=b50w%2FA8fZ21sMnNALMa2sucO%2B4cedw
>> vzYRkSUAmgoj8%3Dreserved=0> look.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C
>> 30278379e916446156cc08d8f850d8aa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7
>> C1%7C0%7C637532373411772552%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM
>> DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=b5
>> 0w%2FA8fZ21sMnNALMa2sucO%2B4cedwvzYRkSUAmgoj8%3Dreserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Brad Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last 
>> item in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
>> “direct touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
>> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site,
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C30278379e916446156cc08d8f850d8aa
>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532373411772552%7CUn
>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
>> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=b50w%2FA8fZ21sMnNALMa2sucO%2B4cedw
>> vzYRkSUAmgoj8%3Dreserved=0> look.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C
>> 30278379e916446156cc08d8f850d8aa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7
>> C1%7C0%7C637532373411772552%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM
>> DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=b5
>> 0w%2FA8fZ21sMnNALMa2sucO%2B4cedwvzYRkSUAmgoj8%3Dreserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Esther
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>> To: 

RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Mich Verrier]

Hi Jannett blind drive is self voicing though so you don't need vo to run it 
only to start the game and then toggle vo off and the game should just run 
fine. Btw I am running a I phone 8. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>
> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
>> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
>> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
>> entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
>> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
>> area.  Things just work.
>>
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
>> iOS 1.4.4?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
>> Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
>> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
>> touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
>> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site,
>> www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Esther
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
>> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
>> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
>> Esther
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Janet Bell]

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet


On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:

In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
touch. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:

What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
iOS 1.4.4?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
touch area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
up to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site,
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!



On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
- Original Message -
From: Esther
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Mich Verrier]

In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
touch. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
> entry.
> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
> area.  Things just work.
>
> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
> iOS 1.4.4?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
> Snyder
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
> touch area.”
> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Esther
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
> - Original Message -
> From: Esther
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Richard Turner]

I don’t use much of the blindfold games, the one I use doesn’t involve any text 
entry.
Is this game self-voicing?  If so, Unload VoiceOver.

If not, then Direct Touch should show up in the rotor and you can turn the 
rotor to it and flick up and then turn the rotor away from that so you don’t 
toggle it back off and you are supposed to be able to continue with the game.
If not, you absolutely need to contact both the developer and Apple 
Accessibility.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor


Hi Richard sometimes when you are playing blindfold games or other games you're 
screen keeps saying direct touch and you can't go anywhere else so do you know 
how to stop that from happening?  Janet
On 05/04/2021 16:59, Richard Turner wrote:
What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it was 
there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the rotor 
unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says 
Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch 
area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in iOS 
1.4.4?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in the 
rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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www.turner42.com



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Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

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From: Esther
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Janet Bell]

Hi Richard sometimes when you are playing blindfold games or other games 
you're screen keeps saying direct touch and you can't go anywhere else 
so do you know how to stop that from happening? Janet


On 05/04/2021 16:59, Richard Turner wrote:


What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the 
standard text entry.


But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.


I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct 
Touch area.  Things just work.


Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch 
in iOS 1.4.4?


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com 

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Brad Snyder

*Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.

On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item 
in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.


- Brad -


On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner > wrote:




I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.

It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.

If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.

You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
“direct touch area.”


If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com 



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Behalf Of *Esther

*Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

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*Subject:*adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added
to the rotor. Everything else I want is in there, but for some
reason it does not stay there. I don't know what I am doing
wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or anything. I
would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Janet Bell]

Hi Esther I take it from reading posts below this that when you get to 
direct touch in the rota if it is on you double tapp to turn it off and 
vice versa.  hope that helps a bit Janet


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*Subject:* adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to
the rotor. Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason
it does not stay there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I
didn't think there was a save button or anything. I would
appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
> entry.
> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
> area.  Things just work.
>
> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
> iOS 1.4.4?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
> Snyder
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
> touch area.”
> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Esther
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
> - Original Message -
> From: Esther
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
> Esther
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Richard Turner]

What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it was 
there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the rotor 
unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says 
Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch 
area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in iOS 
1.4.4?



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in the 
rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Brad Snyder]

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in the 
rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.

- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner  wrote:


I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
 
no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
 
hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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[Johna Gravitt]

Hi,
Just wondering if there's a direct touch short cut to use to invoke it when you 
want to use instead of always turning it on in the rotor?
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Richard Turner]

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
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to turn it on and you should be good to go.



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realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
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Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
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Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Esther]

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
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> 
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> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
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> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
> 
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay 
> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save 
> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. 
> Esther
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RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Somehow your email with the link is not part of this thread any more and as 
Richard said, it seems to be impossible to find this without the link, I tried 
searching both with Google and on Amazon with your subject line or even just 
parts of it and I can't find it. I thought when I originallly checked it gave 
an email on the Amazon listing.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

Could anyone devine a customer contact e-mail or phone number from that mess 
they put up?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

Yes, of course. That's why this case only works with the iPhone SE 2020, and 
the iPhone 8. Earlier models of the 4.7 inch iPhone do not have wireless 
charging.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 08:20, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

You have to charge the case via the lightning plug but the Se2020 charges 
wirelessly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

That is why this case works with the iPhone 8 and SE 2020, but not the iPhone 7 
or earlier 4.7 inch models.

- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 00:10, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

This case does charge wirelessly, it does not get plugged into the Lightning 
port.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

It is in stock.  I read some of the reviews.  Some were complaining about no 
wireless charging.  That is there fault it is clearly stated no wireless 
charging supported.  One complained because they dropped it and the phone 
broke.  That could’ve happened even with an otter box on the phone.  I’m not 
saying buy it or not.  I’m saying look at the reviews and see if the complaints 
are valid.  If it says no wireless charging and people don’t read the 
description that is not the companies fault.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

The iPhone 8 and iPhone SE 2020, are the only iPhone models of this size, that 
have wireless charging technology.


- Brad -

On Apr 4, 2021, at 16:36, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I would agree with this, what also would make me skip it is the fact it does 
not say anything about "MFI" which is the made for iPhone standard only 
manufacturers who make a product which is up to Apple's standards are allowed 
to mention. When I just checked it it says it's currently not available on 
Amazon and there really often is something to the phrase "you get what you pay 
for", not that one always has to buy Apple or other well-known brands, but it's 
also a product with relatively few and very mixed reviews. Lastly, in case it 
becomes available again and somebody is tempted to buy it keep in mind that it 
specifically says it's only for the iPhone 8 and SE 2020 phones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

The fractured English tells me this product is from a no-name Chinese company, 
which makes me suspect that the battery is of low quality, and will charge very 
slowly.
If it were me, I’d skip this one, and look for something from Mophie, or 
another reputable brand name.

- Brad -

On Apr 4, 2021, at 14:27, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

The phone goes into the case very easily. It supposedly gives 1.5 times more 
life to the phone. The manual isn’t very good being written in fractured 
English.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 

RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

[Larry Lumpkin]

Could anyone devine a customer contact e-mail or phone number from that mess 
they put up?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

 

Yes, of course. That's why this case only works with the iPhone SE 2020, and 
the iPhone 8. Earlier models of the 4.7 inch iPhone do not have wireless 
charging.

- Brad -


On Apr 5, 2021, at 08:20, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:



You have to charge the case via the lightning plug but the Se2020 charges 
wirelessly. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

 

That is why this case works with the iPhone 8 and SE 2020, but not the iPhone 7 
or earlier 4.7 inch models.


- Brad -

 

On Apr 5, 2021, at 00:10, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

This case does charge wirelessly, it does not get plugged into the Lightning 
port.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

 

It is in stock.  I read some of the reviews.  Some were complaining about no 
wireless charging.  That is there fault it is clearly stated no wireless 
charging supported.  One complained because they dropped it and the phone 
broke.  That could’ve happened even with an otter box on the phone.  I’m not 
saying buy it or not.  I’m saying look at the reviews and see if the complaints 
are valid.  If it says no wireless charging and people don’t read the 
description that is not the companies fault.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

The iPhone 8 and iPhone SE 2020, are the only iPhone models of this size, that 
have wireless charging technology.

 


- Brad -

 

On Apr 4, 2021, at 16:36, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I would agree with this, what also would make me skip it is the fact it does 
not say anything about "MFI" which is the made for iPhone standard only 
manufacturers who make a product which is up to Apple's standards are allowed 
to mention. When I just checked it it says it's currently not available on 
Amazon and there really often is something to the phrase "you get what you pay 
for", not that one always has to buy Apple or other well-known brands, but it's 
also a product with relatively few and very mixed reviews. Lastly, in case it 
becomes available again and somebody is tempted to buy it keep in mind that it 
specifically says it's only for the iPhone 8 and SE 2020 phones.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

The fractured English tells me this product is from a no-name Chinese company, 
which makes me suspect that the battery is of low quality, and will charge very 
slowly.

If it were me, I’d skip this one, and look for something from Mophie, or 
another reputable brand name.

 

- Brad -

 

On Apr 4, 2021, at 14:27, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

The phone goes into the case very easily. It supposedly gives 1.5 times more 
life to the phone. The manual isn’t very good being written in fractured 
English.

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:26 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

I would be interested in a review if anyone does buy it.  For example how much 
longer do you get out of the phone before you have to charge the phone and 
case?  Does the case charge after the phone is charged?  How long do you need 
to leave the phone and case on the charger to charge them both?  How hard is it 
to get the phone into the case?

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 

RE: Drive Blind

[CJ & AA MAY]

I have actually driven at car at Brand’s Hatch, a racing course in England – I 
think at abut 40 miles an hour with a sighted driver beside me who had dual 
controls. I did manage not to crash the car, which is more than I can say when 
playing Blind Drive!

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: 04 April 2021 23:51
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Drive Blind

 

I had the same thought and just wasn’t going to say anything.

 

I’ve driven a car with my father in the passenger seat directing,

 

It’s easy to do but not as easy as one would think,

I feel my having driven prior to going blind was a benefit 

Except for when I took out the letter  /mail box at the gate.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 5 April 2021 9:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Drive Blind

 

Hey, don't think anybody would expect you to be good at driving blind 藍

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Alison May
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 12:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Drive Blind

 

Yes, I have downloaded this game and play it,  not that I am very good.

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may

0777 315 8181

 

On 3 Apr 2021, at 9:29 pm, Steve Cook mailto:stanley7...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi All, 

 

Has anyone tried the Drive Blind app in the AppleVis Newsletter? If yes, what 
are your thoughts?

 

Steve

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Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, of course. That's why this case only works with the iPhone SE 2020, and 
the iPhone 8. Earlier models of the 4.7 inch iPhone do not have wireless 
charging.

- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 08:20, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


You have to charge the case via the lightning plug but the Se2020 charges 
wirelessly.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020
 
That is why this case works with the iPhone 8 and SE 2020, but not the iPhone 7 
or earlier 4.7 inch models.

- Brad -

 
On Apr 5, 2021, at 00:10, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
This case does charge wirelessly, it does not get plugged into the Lightning 
port.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020
 
It is in stock.  I read some of the reviews.  Some were complaining about no 
wireless charging.  That is there fault it is clearly stated no wireless 
charging supported.  One complained because they dropped it and the phone 
broke.  That could’ve happened even with an otter box on the phone.  I’m not 
saying buy it or not.  I’m saying look at the reviews and see if the complaints 
are valid.  If it says no wireless charging and people don’t read the 
description that is not the companies fault.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020
 
The iPhone 8 and iPhone SE 2020, are the only iPhone models of this size, that 
have wireless charging technology.
 

- Brad -

 
On Apr 4, 2021, at 16:36, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
I would agree with this, what also would make me skip it is the fact it does 
not say anything about "MFI" which is the made for iPhone standard only 
manufacturers who make a product which is up to Apple's standards are allowed 
to mention. When I just checked it it says it's currently not available on 
Amazon and there really often is something to the phrase "you get what you pay 
for", not that one always has to buy Apple or other well-known brands, but it's 
also a product with relatively few and very mixed reviews. Lastly, in case it 
becomes available again and somebody is tempted to buy it keep in mind that it 
specifically says it's only for the iPhone 8 and SE 2020 phones.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020
 
The fractured English tells me this product is from a no-name Chinese company, 
which makes me suspect that the battery is of low quality, and will charge very 
slowly.
If it were me, I’d skip this one, and look for something from Mophie, or 
another reputable brand name.
 
- Brad -

 
On Apr 4, 2021, at 14:27, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
 
The phone goes into the case very easily. It supposedly gives 1.5 times more 
life to the phone. The manual isn’t very good being written in fractured 
English.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020
 
I would be interested in a review if anyone does buy it.  For example how much 
longer do you get out of the phone before you have to charge the phone and 
case?  Does the case charge after the phone is charged?  How long do you need 
to leave the phone and case on the charger to charge them both?  How hard is it 
to get the phone into the case?
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020
 
Please send a link?
I tried searching based on the name in your subject line and found nothing on 
Amazon to match.
They have that brands earbuds and docking station but I did not find that case.
Thanks,
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020
 
Hi. Has anyone else bought and tried this case. It’s a wonderful price on 
Amazon of 
$16.99. I love its design but can’t work out how the power is used. It has a 
button on the back that supposedly turns on charge with a single tap and turns 
charge off with a double tap but I can’t determine whether the phone draws 
power from the battery first or the phone’s internal battery 

RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

[Larry Lumpkin]

You have to charge the case via the lightning plug but the Se2020 charges 
wirelessly. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

 

That is why this case works with the iPhone 8 and SE 2020, but not the iPhone 7 
or earlier 4.7 inch models.


- Brad -

 

On Apr 5, 2021, at 00:10, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

This case does charge wirelessly, it does not get plugged into the Lightning 
port.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iPhone Se2020

 

It is in stock.  I read some of the reviews.  Some were complaining about no 
wireless charging.  That is there fault it is clearly stated no wireless 
charging supported.  One complained because they dropped it and the phone 
broke.  That could’ve happened even with an otter box on the phone.  I’m not 
saying buy it or not.  I’m saying look at the reviews and see if the complaints 
are valid.  If it says no wireless charging and people don’t read the 
description that is not the companies fault.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

The iPhone 8 and iPhone SE 2020, are the only iPhone models of this size, that 
have wireless charging technology.

 


- Brad -

 

On Apr 4, 2021, at 16:36, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I would agree with this, what also would make me skip it is the fact it does 
not say anything about "MFI" which is the made for iPhone standard only 
manufacturers who make a product which is up to Apple's standards are allowed 
to mention. When I just checked it it says it's currently not available on 
Amazon and there really often is something to the phrase "you get what you pay 
for", not that one always has to buy Apple or other well-known brands, but it's 
also a product with relatively few and very mixed reviews. Lastly, in case it 
becomes available again and somebody is tempted to buy it keep in mind that it 
specifically says it's only for the iPhone 8 and SE 2020 phones.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

The fractured English tells me this product is from a no-name Chinese company, 
which makes me suspect that the battery is of low quality, and will charge very 
slowly.

If it were me, I’d skip this one, and look for something from Mophie, or 
another reputable brand name.

 

- Brad -

 

On Apr 4, 2021, at 14:27, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

The phone goes into the case very easily. It supposedly gives 1.5 times more 
life to the phone. The manual isn’t very good being written in fractured 
English.

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 2:26 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

I would be interested in a review if anyone does buy it.  For example how much 
longer do you get out of the phone before you have to charge the phone and 
case?  Does the case charge after the phone is charged?  How long do you need 
to leave the phone and case on the charger to charge them both?  How hard is it 
to get the phone into the case?

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 11:46 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Nenrent true wireless ma5000 battery case for the iphone Se2020

 

Please send a link?

I tried searching based on the name in your subject line and found nothing on 
Amazon to match.

They have that brands earbuds and docking station but I did not find that case.

Thanks,

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From:   

Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Robert Doc Wright]

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
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  Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
  Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor


  hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther


  Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

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adding direct touch to the rotor

[Esther]

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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RE: how to listen to major league games

[Johna Gravitt]

Can you tell me more about how it’s free if you have T-Mobile?
Thanks,
Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Jones
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to listen to major league games

I thoroughly enjoy my free $129 MLB premium subscription every year from 
T-Mobile. It gives me MLB TV and game day audio. It is great! All courtesy of 
T-Mobile.


On Apr 3, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Maria Campbell 
mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com>> wrote:


My $20 yearly subscription to MLB is the best thing since sliced bread.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 4/3/2021 11:10 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I’m not a TMobile user, but I heard the ad while listening to the Mariners’ 
game.  I would call TMobile.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how to listen to major league games

HI Richard,

Where does a T-Mobile user go to take advantage of this offer?

Debbie

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how to listen to major league games

That TMobile ads is for MLB TV, so you get access to all the TV broadcasts as 
well as the radio.  Regular price I think for that is around $120 per year.
But, you can get MLB audio, for just the radio broadcast and the occasional 
“Game Of The Day” that includes the TV for $20 per year.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 4:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to listen to major league games

If one is a t-mobile user, they can get MLB for zero dollars this week.

Fred Olver
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: how to listen to major league games

MLB audio is the only way I know of, and for about $20 per year it is a great 
deal.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:32 PM, Dean Martineau 
mailto:top...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Now that the TuneIn option has been gone for a while, is the MLB app the only 
way to pay and listen to the games?  Does anybody know any station, for any 
team, that chooses to stream games openly?
Thought-provoking reading: 
http://bahaiteachings.org
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RE: Drive Blind

[Johna Gravitt]

This game is truly addicting!
Johna

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Hi All,

Has anyone tried the Drive Blind app in the AppleVis Newsletter? If yes, what 
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Steve
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Re: InstantPot Smart WiFi

[Robert Doc Wright]

do you know which model you have? You can always call Instant Pot and their 
tech support will go through the buttons on the control pannel as you write 
them down.
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  Hello,

   

  I am trying to use our Instant Pot Smart Wi-Fi to cook our Easter dinner but 
it has been a few months since I last used it. I opened the Remote Control for 
Smart Wi-Fi app, but it seems as though the app may not be as accessible as it 
was when I last used it. Does anyone on this list that uses this cooker have 
input on how someone who is blind can use this app to operate the Instant Pot?

   

  Thank you,

   

  Scott


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Re: bathroom scale that connects to iPhone

[Pete Nalda]

This one has Wi-Fi. It’s about the fifth or sixth one down when I did a search 
foraboleaf scale

Arboleaf Smart Scale, Wi-Fi Bluetooth Weight Scale, 14 Body Composition Monitor 
with iOS Android APP, Wireless Cloud-Storage for Unlimited Data, 8 Users, BMR 
BMI Scales Digital Weight and Body Fat
by mozdius
Learn more: 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085DLBBFS/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_PCP09P3KS5D1DB1QQBQW

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Apr 4, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> I looked at the arboleaf scale on amazon and it is definitely in my
> price range right now.  Does it just use bluetooth or is it wifi
> connected as well.  The description was unclear about the
> connectivity.  I would prefer to have something wifi enabled so I
> don't have to have my phone with me when i get on the scale since I
> usually leave my iPhone in my office to charge at night and I would
> want to use the scale first thing in the morning.
> 
>> On 3/29/21, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> A couple years ago, we bought the Arboleaf scale. The iPhone app works well
>> with Voiceover. This scale measures weight, body fat, BMI, water, muscle
>> mass, medibolic age, and BMR.
>> 
>> Traci
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I know a while back I saw some discussion of bathroom scales that are
>>> iOS/VoiceOver friendly.
>>> 
>>> I thought thte recommended scale was by qardio, but I am not seeing it
>>> on amazon.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried the RENPHO Body Fat Scale?  Is the iOS app accessible?
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