Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Arnold Schmidt]

You  are running 14.7.1. There is no problem with that version, it is those 
earlier than 14. I had just reset network settings over the weekend, I just did 
it again, just to be sure, with the same results. Remember, it is not just 
Audible, it is four apps over the last two days. I don't remember what two of 
them were, I deleted them. The fourth one, Shazam, will still work with the 
version that was on my phone, but it will not update. I probably will write 
Apple Support later today. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:51 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:

According to the app store, the audible app is supported on devices running 
IOS 11 & newer. Have you tried resetting network settings & try downloading 
audible again? I don't use audible much, so I just deleted the app & 
reinstalled without any problem.

Donna iPhone 11 with IOS 14.7.1
> 
> You should report it to Audible support because the more people who say 
> there is an issue themore likely it is Audible will fix this for older iOS 
> versions.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: August 18, 2021 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:
> 
> I don't use my IPhone 6, running 12.5.4 a lot now, but I have been keeping it 
> updated. But over the last two days, there have been four apps, Audible, 
> Shazam, I do not remember the other two, that had updates that would not 
> install. At the time, I just surmised that 12.5.4 was just too old to run 
> them, but I wondered why I was offered the updates at all. When I would go 
> back to these apps, it would say recently updated, but they wouldn't run.  
> When my IPhone 5 was at the point in its lipe my 6 is now, I simply was not 
> offered the update. I hope they fix this soon. At least you could have used 
> the old Audible app until it wouldn't work any more. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:50 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 13.x 
> until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.
> 
> Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently installed 
> version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.
> 
> 
> You guessed it, now the app will not install.
> 
> If the app was not compatible with my current version of iOS, then it should 
> not show in my updates list.
> 
> This is just a heads-up for everyone.  
> 
> Mark
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Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Donna Casteen]

According to the app store, the audible app is supported on devices running IOS 
11 & newer. Have you tried resetting network settings & try downloading audible 
again? I don't use audible much, so I just deleted the app & reinstalled 
without any problem.

Donna iPhone 11 with IOS 14.7.1
> 
> You should report it to Audible support because the more people who say 
> there is an issue themore likely it is Audible will fix this for older iOS 
> versions.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: August 18, 2021 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:
> 
> I don't use my IPhone 6, running 12.5.4 a lot now, but I have been keeping it 
> updated. But over the last two days, there have been four apps, Audible, 
> Shazam, I do not remember the other two, that had updates that would not 
> install. At the time, I just surmised that 12.5.4 was just too old to run 
> them, but I wondered why I was offered the updates at all. When I would go 
> back to these apps, it would say recently updated, but they wouldn't run.  
> When my IPhone 5 was at the point in its lipe my 6 is now, I simply was not 
> offered the update. I hope they fix this soon. At least you could have used 
> the old Audible app until it wouldn't work any more. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:50 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 13.x 
> until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.
> 
> Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently installed 
> version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.
> 
> 
> You guessed it, now the app will not install.
> 
> If the app was not compatible with my current version of iOS, then it should 
> not show in my updates list.
> 
> This is just a heads-up for everyone.  
> 
> Mark
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Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Donna Casteen]

I'm running IOS 14.7.1

Donna

> 
> Donna, what IOS are  you running? The problem Mark and I have reported is 
> for IOS older than 14. Once when I tried updating it on my IPhone 6, it told 
> me that I needed IOS 14. Now, it just stays at zero percent.  Why was I 
> offered it? It is fine on this phone, running 14.7.1. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 11:24 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> I just updated the audible app & it updated fine. Earlier this morning the 
> app would not update.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> I don't use my IPhone 6, running 12.5.4 a lot now, but I have been keeping 
>> it updated. But over the last two days, there have been four apps, Audible, 
>> Shazam, I do not remember the other two, that had updates that would not 
>> install. At the time, I just surmised that 12.5.4 was just too old to run 
>> them, but I wondered why I was offered the updates at all. When I would go 
>> back to these apps, it would say recently updated, but they wouldn't run.  
>> When my IPhone 5 was at the point in its lipe my 6 is now, I simply was not 
>> offered the update. I hope they fix this soon. At least you could have used 
>> the old Audible app until it wouldn't work any more. 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>> 
>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:50 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 13.x
>> until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.
>> 
>> Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently
>> installed version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.
>> 
>> 
>> You guessed it, now the app will not install.
>> 
>> If the app was not compatible with my current version of iOS, then it should
>> not show in my updates list.
>> 
>> This is just a heads-up for everyone.  
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Bard app won’t open!

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,

I have had similar problems with the bard app, and my local talking book 
library provided the following advice, which has worked every time.

maybe it will help you, too.

1.Close BARD Mobile
2.Open the Settings app on your iPhone
3.Choose BARD Mobile
4.Toggle on “Setting Initialization”
5.Open BARD Mobile again
6.Agree to the terms of use
7.Re-enter your username and password

> On Aug 17, 2021, at 10:14 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> nlsdownl...@loc.gov.

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RE: location tracking question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Kelly,

I don't think that is correct. If I go to Settings > Privacy > Location 
Services and I turn it off completely I can still make and receive calls and 
send and receive text messages.
I am pretty sure Location Services uses the phone's GPS to determine its 
location and not cell towers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: August 18, 2021 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: location tracking question

Yes, the iPhone’s location can be turned off entirely. However, you would not 
be able to receive calls or text messages because your cellular carrier would 
not know which cell towers could provide service to you.  Therefore, cell phone 
companies need to track the location of devices on their networks to provide 
service to them.  The people on this list want this kind of service. If you do 
not, then you should use an iPhone touch or keep your device permanently on 
airplane mode.

Otherwise, you can keep the cell service and determine which apps can access 
your location under privacy in the settings app.  Realize all apps owned by 
Alphabet, including YouTube, google and google Maps constantly track your 
location even when the app is closed.  It is necessary to configure settings in 
your Google account to stop google from hanging on to location information.

Kelly




On 8/18/21, Vicki W.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to have the general location tracking in privacy turned 
> off and just turn it on for specific apps?
>
> If so, how?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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RE: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You should report it to Audible support because the more people who say there 
is an issue themore likely it is Audible will fix this for older iOS versions.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: August 18, 2021 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

I don't use my IPhone 6, running 12.5.4 a lot now, but I have been keeping it 
updated. But over the last two days, there have been four apps, Audible, 
Shazam, I do not remember the other two, that had updates that would not 
install. At the time, I just surmised that 12.5.4 was just too old to run them, 
but I wondered why I was offered the updates at all. When I would go back to 
these apps, it would say recently updated, but they wouldn't run.  When my 
IPhone 5 was at the point in its lipe my 6 is now, I simply was not offered the 
update. I hope they fix this soon. At least you could have used the old Audible 
app until it wouldn't work any more. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:50 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 13.x 
until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.

Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently installed 
version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.


You guessed it, now the app will not install.

If the app was not compatible with my current version of iOS, then it should 
not show in my updates list.

This is just a heads-up for everyone.  

Mark

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RE: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Joshua, you are probably not on iOS 13 any more and it seems that this is where 
Mark is encountering the issue.

-Original Message-
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Hendrickson
Sent: August 18, 2021 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

I also have an iPhone 8.  I must have updated audible successfully because it 
doesn't show up in my list of apps that can be updated.
Hope you can get your problem resolved.

On 8/18/21, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 
> 13.x until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.
>
> Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently 
> installed version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.
>
>
> You guessed it, now the app will not install.
>
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Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Arnold Schmidt]

Donna, what IOS are  you running? The problem Mark and I have reported is for 
IOS older than 14. Once when I tried updating it on my IPhone 6, it told me 
that I needed IOS 14. Now, it just stays at zero percent.  Why was I offered 
it? It is fine on this phone, running 14.7.1. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Aug 18, 2021, at 11:24 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:

I just updated the audible app & it updated fine. Earlier this morning the app 
would not update.

Donna

> 
> I don't use my IPhone 6, running 12.5.4 a lot now, but I have been keeping 
> it updated. But over the last two days, there have been four apps, Audible, 
> Shazam, I do not remember the other two, that had updates that would not 
> install. At the time, I just surmised that 12.5.4 was just too old to run 
> them, but I wondered why I was offered the updates at all. When I would go 
> back to these apps, it would say recently updated, but they wouldn't run.  
> When my IPhone 5 was at the point in its lipe my 6 is now, I simply was not 
> offered the update. I hope they fix this soon. At least you could have used 
> the old Audible app until it wouldn't work any more. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:50 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 13.x
> until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.
> 
> Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently
> installed version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.
> 
> 
> You guessed it, now the app will not install.
> 
> If the app was not compatible with my current version of iOS, then it should
> not show in my updates list.
> 
> This is just a heads-up for everyone.  
> 
> Mark
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Re: location tracking question

[Kelly Pierce]

Yes, the iPhone’s location can be turned off entirely. However, you
would not be able to receive calls or text messages because your
cellular carrier would not know which cell towers could provide
service to you.  Therefore, cell phone companies need to track the
location of devices on their networks to provide service to them.  The
people on this list want this kind of service. If you do not, then you
should use an iPhone touch or keep your device permanently on airplane
mode.

Otherwise, you can keep the cell service and determine which apps can
access your location under privacy in the settings app.  Realize all
apps owned by Alphabet, including YouTube, google and google Maps
constantly track your location even when the app is closed.  It is
necessary to configure settings in your Google account to stop google
from hanging on to location information.

Kelly




On 8/18/21, Vicki W.  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to have the general location tracking in privacy turned off
> and just turn it on for specific apps?
>
> If so, how?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Donna Casteen]

I just updated the audible app & it updated fine. Earlier this morning the app 
would not update.

Donna

> 
> I don't use my IPhone 6, running 12.5.4 a lot now, but I have been keeping 
> it updated. But over the last two days, there have been four apps, Audible, 
> Shazam, I do not remember the other two, that had updates that would not 
> install. At the time, I just surmised that 12.5.4 was just too old to run 
> them, but I wondered why I was offered the updates at all. When I would go 
> back to these apps, it would say recently updated, but they wouldn't run.  
> When my IPhone 5 was at the point in its lipe my 6 is now, I simply was not 
> offered the update. I hope they fix this soon. At least you could have used 
> the old Audible app until it wouldn't work any more. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:50 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 13.x
> until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.
> 
> Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently
> installed version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.
> 
> 
> You guessed it, now the app will not install.
> 
> If the app was not compatible with my current version of iOS, then it should
> not show in my updates list.
> 
> This is just a heads-up for everyone.  
> 
> Mark
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Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,

I have a document within voice dream reader which is essentially an album of 
unprotected MP3 audio files.

I would like to select several for copy and/or move to a new folder.

Is this possible? If so, could someone please explain a step by step?

I believe I have done this in the past, but I have not been able to figure it 
out in recent days. I would appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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RE: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Exactly,
What I said yesterday it is Microsoft outlook,



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2021 2:03 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

Then it is Microsoft Outlook, they are talking about services or protocols here 
not apps and the Microsoft Outlook option is for any Outlook.com email accounts.
After you select it it will simply ask for your email address and password and 
the rest will configure itself.
Keep in mind that if you have 2-factor authentication enabled for your 
Outlook.com account you may have to log in and generate an app specific 
password to use instead of  your main password. If you did not enable 2-factor 
authentication you can simply ignore this.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: August 18, 2021 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

Outlook.com is not an available option in the list. It has Microsoft Outlook 
and Microsoft Exchange.
Thanks!

Thanks!

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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

You choose Outlook.com


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Sent: August 17, 2021 12:11 PM
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Subject: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

Hi, Group.
I am trying to add an email account to my iPhone5S from outlook.com but I am 
not sure what to select from New Account, I mean when I am offered the 
providers such as Yahoo, Microsoft Exchange etc. I do not select Microsoft 
Outlook because it might confuse it with the Outlook mail client. Outlook.com 
is a webmail service from Microsoft but iPhone5S does not include this service 
in its option. Should I select Others?
If I do that, it wants me to provide the information such as SMTP……..
How can I add this Outlook account to my iPhone5S, please?
Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks!
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Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Arnold Schmidt]

I don't use my IPhone 6, running 12.5.4 a lot now, but I have been keeping it 
updated. But over the last two days, there have been four apps, Audible, 
Shazam, I do not remember the other two, that had updates that would not 
install. At the time, I just surmised that 12.5.4 was just too old to run them, 
but I wondered why I was offered the updates at all. When I would go back to 
these apps, it would say recently updated, but they wouldn't run.  When my 
IPhone 5 was at the point in its lipe my 6 is now, I simply was not offered the 
update. I hope they fix this soon. At least you could have used the old Audible 
app until it wouldn't work any more. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:50 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 13.x
until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.

Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently
installed version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.


You guessed it, now the app will not install.

If the app was not compatible with my current version of iOS, then it should
not show in my updates list.

This is just a heads-up for everyone.  

Mark

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RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Richard Turner]

The menu will be there no matter the source if using supported headphones.
I think the article confused things by mentioning the control center access in 
the same breath as the fact Netflix is adding spatial audio; just after we 
cancelled Netflix, of course.





Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Well, Ted Lasso is an Apple TV product, not a Netflix product. So I don’t know. 
You should just be able to turn spatial audio on for your AirPods Pro, and 
Collett good. this is weird.
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 5:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Ah, OK, I didn’t know this, and I guess I didn’t read the article closely 
enough. I’ll go pop in my Airpod Pros, bring up an episode of Ted Lasso, and 
see if I can find this setting by messing around with the volume slider. Thanks 
again!

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and 
video I think.
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:









 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 




Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com




On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.
Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured it 
in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
To: via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Good 

Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Mary Otten]

Well, Ted Lasso is an Apple TV product, not a Netflix product. So I don’t know. 
You should just be able to turn spatial audio on for your AirPods Pro, and 
Collett good. this is weird.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2021, at 5:21 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Ah, OK, I didn’t know this, and I guess I didn’t read the article closely 
> enough. I’ll go pop in my Airpod Pros, bring up an episode of Ted Lasso, and 
> see if I can find this setting by messing around with the volume slider. 
> Thanks again!
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
>  
> Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that 
> menu.
> I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
> Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
> So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
> beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort 
> of menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
> AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this 
> menu, otherwise it’s in the beta.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
> heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio 
> and video I think.
> anyway, the explanitory message below that says:
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
> content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial 
> audio in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then 
> tapping Spatial Audio.
> Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
> whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
> experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
> I like it.
> I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
> not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 
> 
> 
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>  I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
> be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
> managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
> Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured 
> it in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
>  
> Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.
>  
> Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
> 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
> iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
> directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix 
> users.
> 
> A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
> rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
> first reported by users on Reddit as well as in a report from iPhoneSoft,
> 
> The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
> spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.
> 
> Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
> audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
> immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels exactly in the 
> right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.
> 
> Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
> AirPods Max users:
> 
> Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
> right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
> 

RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

Ah, OK, I didn’t know this, and I guess I didn’t read the article closely 
enough. I’ll go pop in my Airpod Pros, bring up an episode of Ted Lasso, and 
see if I can find this setting by messing around with the volume slider. Thanks 
again!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and 
video I think.
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:






 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.
Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured it 
in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
To: via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.

Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller



[https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/06/airpods-pro-spatial-audio-2.jpg?quality=82=all=1600]

Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix users.

A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
first reported by users on 
Reddit
 as well as in a report from 
iPhoneSoft,

The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is 

Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Richard Turner]

The one sound that never works is the new email sound.
I've tried several sounds and nada.
The sent mail is inconsistant.
New text messages sound works.
Ringer works.
Any duplicates, please report.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:


Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured it 
in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.

Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller


[https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/06/airpods-pro-spatial-audio-2.jpg?quality=82=all=1600]

Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix users.

A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
first reported by users on 
Reddit
 as well as in a report from 
iPhoneSoft,

The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.

Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels exactly in the 
right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.

Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
AirPods Max users:

Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds 
virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround sound experience. 
Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro and your iPhone, 
spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as your device, compares 
the motion data, and then remaps the sound field so that it stays anchored to 
your device even as your head moves.

iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize Stereo 
option,
 which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos content. This 
allows AirPods Pro and AirPods Max users to listen to pretty much any song or 
video.


Original Article: 

Re: Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I also have an iPhone 8.  I must have updated audible successfully
because it doesn't show up in my list of apps that can be updated.
Hope you can get your problem resolved.

On 8/18/21, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 13.x
> until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.
>
> Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently
> installed version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.
>
>
> You guessed it, now the app will not install.
>
> If the app was not compatible with my current version of iOS, then it
> should
> not show in my updates list.
>
> This is just a heads-up for everyone.
>
> Mark
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Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Richard Turner]

Actually you have to use headphones that support spatial audio to get that menu.
I just tried with a pair of older plantronics headphones.
Before, I was using the Airpods Max.
So even with the beta, no menu without the right headphones.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and 
video I think.
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:



 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:


Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured it 
in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.

Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller


[https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/06/airpods-pro-spatial-audio-2.jpg?quality=82=all=1600]

Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix users.

A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
first reported by users on 
Reddit
 as well as in a report from 
iPhoneSoft,

The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.

Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels exactly in the 
right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.

Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
AirPods Max users:

Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds 
virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive 

Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Mary Otten]

Well, I just went into control center on my phone which is not running the 
beta. I triple tapped on volume with one finger, and I did not see any sort of 
menu. Now I was not using my AirPods Pro or HomePods max. I should’ve said 
AirPods Max. So perhaps you actually have to be using them to access this menu, 
otherwise it’s in the beta.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio 
> heading you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio 
> and video I think.
> anyway, the explanitory message below that says:
>  
> 
> 
>  When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
> content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial 
> audio in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then 
> tapping Spatial Audio.
> Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
> whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
> experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
> I like it.
> I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
> not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>  I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which 
>> within be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
>>> managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
>>> Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you 
>>> configured it in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.
>>>  
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
>>> To: via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
>>>  
>>> Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.
>>>  
>>> Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
>>> 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to 
>>> its iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience 
>>> using directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to 
>>> Netflix users.
>>> 
>>> A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has 
>>> started rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The 
>>> news was first reported by users on Reddit as well as in a report from 
>>> iPhoneSoft,
>>> 
>>> The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
>>> spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.
>>> 
>>> Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
>>> audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
>>> immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels exactly in the 
>>> right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.
>>> 
>>> Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
>>> AirPods Max users:
>>> 
>>> Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater 
>>> experience right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters 
>>> and subtly adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can 
>>> place sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround 
>>> sound experience. Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro 
>>> and your iPhone, spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as 
>>> your device, compares the motion data, and then remaps the sound field so 
>>> that it stays anchored to your device even as your head moves.
>>> 
>>> iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize Stereo 
>>> option, which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos 
>>> content. This allows AirPods Pro and AirPods Max users to listen to pretty 
>>> much any song or video.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Original Article: 
>>> https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/18/netflix-spatial-audio-support-roll-out/
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Richard Turner]

If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Airpods, under the Spatial Audio heading 
you have a choice of having spatial audio off, only video, or audio and video I 
think.
anyway, the explanitory message below that says:



 When head tracking is turned on, spatial audio for supported audio and video 
content will adjust based on your head movement. You can control spatial audio 
in Control Center by touching and holding the volume slider, then tapping 
Spatial Audio.
Try a one finger triple tap on volume there in control center and you find a 
whole new menu of options for spatial audio. If on, it tries to provide that 
experience even with recordings that are not in spatial audio.
I like it.
I hope this is true and I'm not accidentlly including beta features but I do 
not have a device running 14.7 to double check; 



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within 
be referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:


Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured it 
in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.

Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller


[https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/06/airpods-pro-spatial-audio-2.jpg?quality=82=all=1600]

Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix users.

A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
first reported by users on 
Reddit
 as well as in a report from 
iPhoneSoft,

The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.

Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels exactly in the 
right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.

Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
AirPods Max users:

Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds 
virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround sound experience. 
Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro and your iPhone, 
spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as your device, compares 
the motion data, and then remaps the sound field so that it stays anchored to 
your device even as your head moves.

iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize Stereo 
option,
 

Problem with the Audible App for iOS 13.x:

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Okay, everything was fine with the Audible app on my iPhone 8 running 13.x
until I attempted to install the update, released 2 days ago.

Each time I tried to update, it failed.  So, I deleted my currently
installed version with the intention of installing a fresh copy of the app.


You guessed it, now the app will not install.

If the app was not compatible with my current version of iOS, then it should
not show in my updates list.

This is just a heads-up for everyone.  

Mark

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Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Mary Otten]

I assume they’re talking about managing spatial audio overall, which within be 
referring to the control center on the iPhone. I guess.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Ah, this is good news, but I’m not sure what’s meant by “The toggle for 
> managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center.” I didn’t think 
> Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured 
> it in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.
>  
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
>  
> Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.
>  
> Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
> 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
> 
> 
> 
> Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
> iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
> directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix 
> users.
> 
> A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
> rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
> first reported by users on Reddit as well as in a report from iPhoneSoft,
> 
> The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
> spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.
> 
> Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
> audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
> immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels exactly in the 
> right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.
> 
> Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
> AirPods Max users:
> 
> Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
> right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
> adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds 
> virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround sound experience. 
> Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro and your iPhone, 
> spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as your device, compares 
> the motion data, and then remaps the sound field so that it stays anchored to 
> your device even as your head moves.
> 
> iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize Stereo 
> option, which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos 
> content. This allows AirPods Pro and AirPods Max users to listen to pretty 
> much any song or video.
> 
> 
> 
> Original Article: 
> https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/18/netflix-spatial-audio-support-roll-out/
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RE: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14

[Christopher Chaltain]

Knowing when someone has mentioned you might be nice if you're in a bunch of 
group chats and you can't keep up with all of the text messages. I know this 
comes in handy for me in IM clients like Teams. I'm not messaging that much 
though, so this isn't a big deal for me right now one way or the other.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14

Hi Richard,
Sounds pretty much like I had thought.  As long as you brought it up, where do 
you turn off mentions?  I guess if people like them, so be it.  I see know 
reason to know who has mentioned me.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14

Hi Kay,
That dictate button is for entering text into the search field or to field, 
depending where you are.
Of course, once the keyboard is up because you have double tapped on an edit 
field, you can also do the two finger double tap to start and stop dictation 
rather than having to find that button.

The new contact or picture is just that, to add someone to your contacts or to 
update their contact if their information has changed or they have a new photo.
One thing I went and turned off was the "mentions." Which means you get told if 
you or someone in the conversation is mentioned ... I don't really need to know 
that myself.

HTH,



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14

As you know, I'm old and slow.  A week or so ago,I updated my phone to 14.  One 
question that I have, is that I see dictate buttons all over the place.  for 
example at the beginning of  the conversation list in messages and the same in 
the native mail app.  What are they for?  Another question is, in messages when 
I open up a conversation, I am getting a button that says there is a new 
contact name or maybe it will be a new picture for this contact.  Of course, 
not on all of them.  I am sure it is just as it sounds, but what is this and 
what will that button do?  I do experiment with other things to figure out what 
they are but hope you all can tell me these.  There is a lot of change here, 
but much of it is positive.  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

Ah, this is good news, but I'm not sure what's meant by "The toggle for 
managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center." I didn't think 
Netflix had anything called the control center, and I thought you configured it 
in the Bluetooth settings for your Airpod Pros.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:28 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.

Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller


[https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/06/airpods-pro-spatial-audio-2.jpg?quality=82=all=1600]

Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix users.

A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
first reported by users on 
Reddit
 as well as in a report from 
iPhoneSoft,

The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.

Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
audio filters to "play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
immersive sound experience." This will put surround channels exactly in the 
right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.

Here's how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
AirPods Max users:

Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds 
virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround sound experience. 
Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro and your iPhone, 
spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as your device, compares 
the motion data, and then remaps the sound field so that it stays anchored to 
your device even as your head moves.

iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize Stereo 
option,
 which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos content. This 
allows AirPods Pro and AirPods Max users to listen to pretty much any song or 
video.


Original Article: 
https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/18/netflix-spatial-audio-support-roll-out/

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Re: Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[CHELA Robles]

Wow thanks for sharing now I really need to get me some of those AirPod pros.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 18, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.
> 
> Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
> 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
> 
> 
> Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
> iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
> directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix 
> users.
> 
> A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
> rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
> first reported by users on Reddit as well as in a report from iPhoneSoft,
> 
> The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
> spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.
> 
> Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
> audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
> immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels exactly in the 
> right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.
> 
> Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
> AirPods Max users:
> 
> Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
> right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
> adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds 
> virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround sound experience. 
> Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro and your iPhone, 
> spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as your device, compares 
> the motion data, and then remaps the sound field so that it stays anchored to 
> your device even as your head moves.
> 
> iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize Stereo 
> option, which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos 
> content. This allows AirPods Pro and AirPods Max users to listen to pretty 
> much any song or video.
> 
> 
> 
> Original Article: 
> https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/18/netflix-spatial-audio-support-roll-out/
> 
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Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad

[Mary Otten]

Good news for AirPods Max and AirPods Pro owners who subscribe to Netflix.

Netflix now rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller


Netflix has confirmed that it is now rolling out Spatial Audio support to its 
iPhone and iPad applications. This enables an immersive experience using 
directional audio filters, and it has been a long time coming to Netflix users.

A Netflix spokesperson has confirmed to 9to5Mac that the company has started 
rolling out Spatial Audio support on iPhone and iPad on iOS 14. The news was 
first reported by users on Reddit as well as in a report from iPhoneSoft,

The toggle for managing Spatial Audio is located in the Control Center. The 
spatial audio feature is exclusive to AirPods Pro and AirPods Max.

Apple says that spatial audio is an immersive experience using directional 
audio filters to “play sounds virtually anywhere in space, creating an 
immersive sound experience.” This will put surround channels exactly in the 
right spot, even as you turn your head or move your device.

Here’s how Apple describes the spatial audio feature for AirPods Pro and 
AirPods Max users:

Spatial audio with dynamic head tracking brings the movie theater experience 
right to your AirPods Pro. By applying directional audio filters and subtly 
adjusting the frequencies each ear receives, spatial audio can place sounds 
virtually anywhere in space, creating an immersive surround sound experience. 
Using the gyroscope and accelerometer in your AirPods Pro and your iPhone, 
spatial audio tracks the motion of your head as well as your device, compares 
the motion data, and then remaps the sound field so that it stays anchored to 
your device even as your head moves.

iOS 15 takes Spatial Audio to the next level with a new Spatialize Stereo 
option, which simulates the Spatial Audio experience for non-Dolby Atmos 
content. This allows AirPods Pro and AirPods Max users to listen to pretty much 
any song or video.



Original Article: 
https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/18/netflix-spatial-audio-support-roll-out/


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Re: Ad blocker

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Maria,

i'm using Firefox Focus. Despite its name, it works with Safari.

Best,
Anna


> On Aug 18, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
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Re: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14

[Mike B.]

Hi Kay,

Take a peek at the thread below to turn off, Mentions.

From: Mike B
Go to, Settings / Messages, and open.  Note:  If you have iMessages turned 
on you won't have the, Mentions, heading so, turn iMessages off to get it.
Swipe several times to the, Mentions heading,  now swipe right 1 time to, 
Notify Me, and turn this feature off.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

From: Jasmine Kotsay
Hi,
I was wondering, even though I have iMessage on, I still have the mentions 
heading in my text messages. I don’t really know what it is for, so 
therefore
I don’t like it much. I’m going to try the steps you mentioned so that I can 
see if I can get it to turn off.
Jasmine

From: Mike B
Hi Jasmine,
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.  I'm running iOS 14.3 on an SE 
2020 iPhone.  When I open, Settings / Messages, if I have iMessage turned on 
I
don't get the Mentions heading to turn Mentions off.  I need to turn 
iMessages off in order for the SMS / MMS Heading, MMS messaging, Group 
messenging...
+ the other settings to show.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

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From: Kay Malmquist
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14


Hi Richard,
Sounds pretty much like I had thought.  As long as you brought it up, where 
do you turn off mentions?  I guess if people like them, so be it.  I see 
know reason to know who has mentioned me.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:20 PM
  Subject: RE: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14


  Hi Kay,

  That dictate button is for entering text into the search field or to 
field, depending where you are.

  Of course, once the keyboard is up because you have double tapped on an 
edit field, you can also do the two finger double tap to start and stop 
dictation rather than having to find that button.



  The new contact or picture is just that, to add someone to your contacts 
or to update their contact if their information has changed or they have a 
new photo.

  One thing I went and turned off was the “mentions.” Which means you get 
told if you or someone in the conversation is mentioned … I don’t really 
need to know that myself.



  HTH,







  Richard

  Software means never having to say you're finished



  Web site: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:42 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14



  As you know, I'm old and slow.  A week or so ago,I updated my phone to 14. 
One question that I have, is that I see dictate buttons all over the place. 
for example at the beginning of  the conversation list in messages and the 
same in the native mail app.  What are they for?  Another question is, in 
messages when I open up a conversation, I am getting a button that says 
there is a new contact name or maybe it will be a new picture for this 
contact.  Of course, not on all of them.  I am sure it is just as it sounds, 
but what is this and what will that button do?  I do experiment with other 
things to figure out what they are but hope you all can tell me these. 
There is a lot of change here, but much of it is positive.  Thanks for any 
help.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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location tracking question

[Vicki W.]

Hi,

Is it possible to have the general location tracking in privacy turned off and 
just turn it on for specific apps?

If so, how?

Thanks.

Vicki

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Re: Yahoo Mail

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Kevin,

I use the built-in Mail app, and it works fine.

HTH,
Anna


> On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:57 AM,  
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> If there is an allow button, Voice-Over isn't reading it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Hudson
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Yahoo Mail
> 
> Kevin, it should automatically let you sign in once you've given an access to 
> the browser. You shouldn't have to worry about allowing cookies and if it ask 
> you about allowing cookies, you should have an allowed button.
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2021, at 2:06 PM, kevinwass...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I have a Yahoo Mail account. I downloaded the application. However, the 
>> Yahoo Mail application wants me to use the web browser on my iPhone. When I 
>> open the app it asks for my email and password. Then it wants to use the 
>> browser. I allow the Yahoo Mail application to use the browser. But I can’t 
>> go any further unless I enable safari to use Cookies. I don’t know how to 
>> have Safari to use cookies. Is there another app I can use such as the 
>> default email app on my phone so  don’t have to use cookies with Safari? 
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Re: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi Richard,
Sounds pretty much like I had thought.  As long as you brought it up, where 
do you turn off mentions?  I guess if people like them, so be it.  I see 
know reason to know who has mentioned me.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:20 PM
  Subject: RE: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14


  Hi Kay,

  That dictate button is for entering text into the search field or to 
field, depending where you are.

  Of course, once the keyboard is up because you have double tapped on an 
edit field, you can also do the two finger double tap to start and stop 
dictation rather than having to find that button.



  The new contact or picture is just that, to add someone to your contacts 
or to update their contact if their information has changed or they have a 
new photo.

  One thing I went and turned off was the “mentions.” Which means you get 
told if you or someone in the conversation is mentioned … I don’t really 
need to know that myself.



  HTH,







  Richard

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:42 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14



  As you know, I'm old and slow.  A week or so ago,I updated my phone to 14. 
One question that I have, is that I see dictate buttons all over the place. 
for example at the beginning of  the conversation list in messages and the 
same in the native mail app.  What are they for?  Another question is, in 
messages when I open up a conversation, I am getting a button that says 
there is a new contact name or maybe it will be a new picture for this 
contact.  Of course, not on all of them.  I am sure it is just as it sounds, 
but what is this and what will that button do?  I do experiment with other 
things to figure out what they are but hope you all can tell me these. 
There is a lot of change here, but much of it is positive.  Thanks for any 
help.


  Kay Malmquist
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RE: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14

[Richard Turner]

Hi Kay,
That dictate button is for entering text into the search field or to field, 
depending where you are.
Of course, once the keyboard is up because you have double tapped on an edit 
field, you can also do the two finger double tap to start and stop dictation 
rather than having to find that button.

The new contact or picture is just that, to add someone to your contacts or to 
update their contact if their information has changed or they have a new photo.
One thing I went and turned off was the "mentions." Which means you get told if 
you or someone in the conversation is mentioned ... I don't really need to know 
that myself.

HTH,



Richard
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Web site: www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: questions about things I am finding in I O S 14

As you know, I'm old and slow.  A week or so ago,I updated my phone to 14.  One 
question that I have, is that I see dictate buttons all over the place.  for 
example at the beginning of  the conversation list in messages and the same in 
the native mail app.  What are they for?  Another question is, in messages when 
I open up a conversation, I am getting a button that says there is a new 
contact name or maybe it will be a new picture for this contact.  Of course, 
not on all of them.  I am sure it is just as it sounds, but what is this and 
what will that button do?  I do experiment with other things to figure out what 
they are but hope you all can tell me these.  There is a lot of change here, 
but much of it is positive.  Thanks for any help.

Kay Malmquist
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Ad blocker

[Maria Campbell]

I'm using Safari as my browser.  Which ad blocker are most of you 
using.  TIA.




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Re: number game called threes

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Yes, it is a part of a game called dice world.

> On Aug 18, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
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> HI has anybody played this number game on their mobile?  only asking because 
> it was a clue in one of the puzzles on 7 little words and I have never heard 
> of it.  Janet
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RE: Hearing Aid Not Pairing on 12 Pro Max

[Mr. Ed]

Hi,
You have to go into MFI to pair hearing aids.
Mr. Ed

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Subject: Hearing Aid Not Pairing on 12 Pro Max

For the first time in eighteen months, I got to go out to a public 
gathering. Of course, I put a fresh set of batteries in my hearing aids 
and inserted them into my ears, but when I tried using the phone with 
them, not only were they not paired with the phone, but I could not do 
the pairing. I opened Bluetooth Settings and found somebody's LG 
something in the area with which I accidentally paired, but my hearing 
aids weren't even on the list. My aids are not the type that can receive 
firmware updates, so I know that's not the problem. However, I do have 
an Apple Watch, and it was correctly paired with the phone. Is it 
possible that it's not permissible to have a watch and aids paired at 
the same time? Or did I possibly forget to set something up on the phone 
correctly when I did the initial install and setup, moving from the 10S 
(or XS) Max to the 12 Pro Max two months ago?


Thanks in advance for any suggestions, gratefully received.

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Re: VoiceOver Volume Always Low on 12 Pro Max

[Richard Turner]

The reason you should care about change with buttons, is that you can find 
yourself with VO and the ringers at zero quite easily if you turn something 
down with the buttons. That creates a bit of a rude awakening, grin.
HTH,



Richard
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On Aug 18, 2021, at 6:04 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:



1. O-ho! It was the rotor, I didn't have Volume on the rotor, and when I put it 
there, it was set to only 60%. I increased it to 100%, and now the phone volume 
goes up as loud as it did on the old XS Max.


2. "Change with" is off. I don't care about that anyway, ringer and other 
noises are at a good volume. I don't have to change those.


3. Siri volume now adjusted as per your instruction.


4. Yes, ducking is enabled.


The main problem and solution was #1. Now VO volume is the same as everything 
else.


On 8/17/2021 7:36 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
First, is the VoiceOver volume in the rotor, and what do you have it set at?
2. In settings, sounds, is change with buttons off?
3. Ask Siri a question that will take a little while to answer, like the 
forecast for the week; and adjust the volume while it is speaking.
That should set the Siri volume.
4. Do you have Audio ducking enabled?



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On Aug 17, 2021, at 4:25 PM, Steve Matzura 
 wrote:

Ever since I got the device back in June, I've noticed two odd behaviors about 
VoiceOver which I can't explain which hopefully you can.


1. The VoiceOver voice, no matter which one it is, is always low, lower than 
any other audio the phone can produce. This includes phone calls, FaceTime, 
Zoom, media playback such as Music, Web content, etc.It's this way on both the 
built-in speakers and headphone output.


2. When the VoiceOver voice begins speaking, it ramps up in volume from 
something ridiculously low up to a higher level over the course of about three 
syllables.


All of the above is quite annoying when I ask Siri a question, the Siri voice 
speaks loudly, then the VoiceOver voice comes on, ramps up in volume over the 
course of a few syllables, but it's never half as loud as the Siri voice. This 
tells me I've got some level-limiting setting turned on which I can't find. Any 
ideas welcome and gratefully received.

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number game called threes

[Janet Bell]

HI has anybody played this number game on their mobile?  only asking 
because it was a clue in one of the puzzles on 7 little words and I have 
never heard of it.  Janet


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Re: Bard app won’t open!

[Sherrie Gosling]

Problem solved. I had to open settings app and go to bard. Then I had to turn 
on initialization. When I opened the bard app there was the page to agree to 
the terms. I tapped the Agree button several times using voiceover of course 
but it did nothing except say selected. So then I tapped the second button 
which just said star. It opened a screen that said I had to agree. So I had my 
cited husband tap the agree button with voice over turned off and then he said 
there was a start button which he tapped. It then opened the login screen which 
I completed and all was well.



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> On Aug 17, 2021, at 11:54 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> Sometimes issues with apps connecting to the internet can be corrected by 
> resetting network settings.  You can do this by going to 
> Settings/General/reset, and tapping on Reset Network Settings.  Make sure you 
> tap on that and not on Reset All Settings, which is the previous control.  
> After doing this, you may need to resign into your apps that require a sign 
> in.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Alan Lemly" 
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> Subject: RE: Bard app won’t open!
> 
> 
> Sherrie,
> 
> I'm sorry you're having problems with your BARD Mobile app. I can't think of 
> anything you haven't tried. Before you uninstall the app, I'd recommend you 
> write nlsdownl...@loc.gov. They have an excellent support team and it would 
> be worth running your issue by them before doing anything drastic.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sherrie Gosling
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bard app won’t open!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> My Bard app will not open at all. I used it normally last evening. Now, no 
> matter which way I try to open it it just says audio and then reverts to the 
> home screen. I tried opening it by double tapping, by going to the app 
> switcher which does say it is open, by going to App Store and tapping on 
> open. I even went to manage storage in settings and offloaded the app and 
> then did the reinstall app that was supposed to work without deleting my 
> data. I really, really do not want to delete the app totally as I have 92 
> books in my downloaded library.
> I am running the latest version of the Bard app on my SE 2020 which is 
> running 14. Seven. One.
> Bard is still working on my old 6S which is running the same specs as my SE 
> 2020.
> By the way, I did restart the phone twice after deleting everything from app 
> switcher to see if that would help. It did not.
> Any ideas other than deleting and starting over with the app Would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> Thank you,
> Sherrie Gosling
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RE: Hearing Aid Not Pairing on 12 Pro Max

[Paula Jordan]

Hi Steve. This sounds basic and you probably did it already, but sometimes my 
hearing aids don’t pair. I shut the phone down and bring it back up and they 
pair again. Hope it's as simple as that.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hearing Aid Not Pairing on 12 Pro Max

For the first time in eighteen months, I got to go out to a public gathering. 
Of course, I put a fresh set of batteries in my hearing aids and inserted them 
into my ears, but when I tried using the phone with them, not only were they 
not paired with the phone, but I could not do the pairing. I opened Bluetooth 
Settings and found somebody's LG something in the area with which I 
accidentally paired, but my hearing aids weren't even on the list. My aids are 
not the type that can receive firmware updates, so I know that's not the 
problem. However, I do have an Apple Watch, and it was correctly paired with 
the phone. Is it possible that it's not permissible to have a watch and aids 
paired at the same time? Or did I possibly forget to set something up on the 
phone correctly when I did the initial install and setup, moving from the 10S 
(or XS) Max to the 12 Pro Max two months ago?


Thanks in advance for any suggestions, gratefully received.

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RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would say Yes, some call it a stand and I call it a cradle, but the point is 
that the phone stands in a somewhat more upright position and hence requires an 
edge or whatever to rest against and that lines up much better than if you lay 
it on a small round pad which has no edges

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: August 18, 2021 4:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad

Is a charging stand the same as a charging cradle and do the mag safe chargers 
work with an otter box case?

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From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad

Hi,
That is why I like to use a charging stand as it is a lot easier to line up on 
the charging stand then a pad.
Mr. Ed

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad

It might be just a little bit of a challenge to get the phone placed just right.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad

Thank you. My problem is I seem to be inconsistent in placing it and I’m not 
sure why.. unless the chargers pause to preserve battery health? Sometimes mine 
charges like a champ other times  not and other times it appears to pause.


Sent from Mail   for Windows


From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad


hi,


After I placed my phone on the wireless charger, I routinely touch the top 
right corner of the screen to get the battery level announcement. If it is 
charging it will tell me battery level 60% on AC power. If it is not accurately 
placed on the charger, it just announces battery level 60%.


Hope this helps. Keith





  On Aug 17, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

  

   I like the convenience 
of wireless charging but I’m finding my phone isn’t always centered on the 
charger. I will feel it vibrate, here a ping sound, it will say its charging 
and then it will just randomly stop. The charger is fine, obody else has the 
problem of their phones not being centered, so I’m wondering if any totally 
blind users who like wireless charging can give me a hint?



  Sent from Mail   
for Windows



  From: Brett Campbell 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:59 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: Wireless charging pad



  I received mine yesterday. I don’t have experience to compare 
either, but I did think it would charge a little faster. It is kind of fun just 
to lay the phone down and have it charge. I do have to pay attention to not 
bumping it off center. I also like just setting my AirPods Pro on the pad.






   On Aug 17, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
 > wrote:



   To my surprise, the Nanami Wireless Charger that was 
due to arrive today, actually arrived on Sunday morning.  Delivered by the US 
Post Office no less.



   This being my first hands-on with a wireless 
charging pad, this is what I can say.

   It is about 3.75 inches in diameter.

   It comes with the “fast” charging block and a USB A 
to USB C cable that is 3 feet long.

   When plugged in properly to the pad, the USB C plug 
clicks into place so you know you have a good solid connection.



   I don’t know what “fast” charging means on an iPhone 
SE 2020, but I have a thin clear case that is rated to work with wireless 
charging pads.  My phone went from 10% to 100% in a little over three hours.  
Again, this is my first experience with this kind of charger; but that doesn’t 
seem fast to me.  Maybe I’m missing something.

RE: Help with Air Dropping contacts

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Nothing really does happen after you tap on "Accept" except that if the 
transfer worked the contacts should now be in your contact list or if you 
transfer pictures they should be in your Photos app.

The Settings for Airdrop are under Settings > General > Airdrop.

From: rhs via VIPhone 
Sent: August 18, 2021 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Help with Air Dropping contacts

Hi,

My wife tried using air drop to give me a couple contacts I needed.  A message 
popped up on my phone telling someone was trying to do that.  I gave permission 
but nothing happened.

My settings are set to accept contacts only.

Any ideas about what the problem might be?

Also, using VO, how can I get into my airdrop settings?

Thanks for the help.

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Help with Air Dropping contacts

[rhs via VIPhone]

Hi,

 

My wife tried using air drop to give me a couple contacts I needed.  A message 
popped up on my phone telling someone was trying to do that.  I gave permission 
but nothing happened.

 

My settings are set to accept contacts only.

 

Any ideas about what the problem might be?  

 

Also, using VO, how can I get into my airdrop settings?

 

Thanks for the help.

 

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RE: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Then it is Microsoft Outlook, they are talking about services or protocols here 
not apps and the Microsoft Outlook option is for any Outlook.com email accounts.
After you select it it will simply ask for your email address and password and 
the rest will configure itself.
Keep in mind that if you have 2-factor authentication enabled for your 
Outlook.com account you may have to log in and generate an app specific 
password to use instead of  your main password. If you did not enable 2-factor 
authentication you can simply ignore this.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: August 18, 2021 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

Outlook.com is not an available option in the list. It has Microsoft Outlook 
and Microsoft Exchange.
Thanks!

Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

You choose Outlook.com


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: August 17, 2021 12:11 PM
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Subject: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

Hi, Group.
I am trying to add an email account to my iPhone5S from outlook.com but I am 
not sure what to select from New Account, I mean when I am offered the 
providers such as Yahoo, Microsoft Exchange etc. I do not select Microsoft 
Outlook because it might confuse it with the Outlook mail client. Outlook.com 
is a webmail service from Microsoft but iPhone5S does not include this service 
in its option. Should I select Others?
If I do that, it wants me to provide the information such as SMTP……..
How can I add this Outlook account to my iPhone5S, please?
Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks!
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questions about things I am finding in I O S 14

[Kay Malmquist]

As you know, I'm old and slow.  A week or so ago,I updated my phone to 14. 
One question that I have, is that I see dictate buttons all over the place. 
for example at the beginning of  the conversation list in messages and the 
same in the native mail app.  What are they for?  Another question is, in 
messages when I open up a conversation, I am getting a button that says 
there is a new contact name or maybe it will be a new picture for this 
contact.  Of course, not on all of them.  I am sure it is just as it sounds, 
but what is this and what will that button do?  I do experiment with other 
things to figure out what they are but hope you all can tell me these. 
There is a lot of change here, but much of it is positive.  Thanks for any 
help.

Kay Malmquist
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Re: VoiceOver Volume Always Low on 12 Pro Max

[Steve Matzura]

1. O-ho! It was the rotor, I didn't have Volume on the rotor, and when I 
put it there, it was set to only 60%. I increased it to 100%, and now 
the phone volume goes up as loud as it did on the old XS Max.



2. "Change with" is off. I don't care about that anyway, ringer and 
other noises are at a good volume. I don't have to change those.



3. Siri volume now adjusted as per your instruction.


4. Yes, ducking is enabled.


The main problem and solution was #1. Now VO volume is the same as 
everything else.



On 8/17/2021 7:36 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
First, is the VoiceOver volume in the rotor, and what do you have it 
set at?

2. In settings, sounds, is change with buttons off?
3. Ask Siri a question that will take a little while to answer, like 
the forecast for the week; and adjust the volume while it is speaking.

That should set the Siri volume.
4. Do you have Audio ducking enabled?



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas,average minds discuss events, small minds 
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt


www.turner42.com



On Aug 17, 2021, at 4:25 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

Ever since I got the device back in June, I've noticed two odd 
behaviors about VoiceOver which I can't explain which hopefully you can.



1. The VoiceOver voice, no matter which one it is, is always low, 
lower than any other audio the phone can produce. This includes phone 
calls, FaceTime, Zoom, media playback such as Music, Web content, 
etc.It's this way on both the built-in speakers and headphone output.



2. When the VoiceOver voice begins speaking, it ramps up in volume 
from something ridiculously low up to a higher level over the course 
of about three syllables.



All of the above is quite annoying when I ask Siri a question, the 
Siri voice speaks loudly, then the VoiceOver voice comes on, ramps up 
in volume over the course of a few syllables, but it's never half as 
loud as the Siri voice. This tells me I've got some level-limiting 
setting turned on which I can't find. Any ideas welcome and 
gratefully received.


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RE: Yahoo Mail

[kevinwassmer]

If there is an allow button, Voice-Over isn't reading it.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Yahoo Mail

Kevin, it should automatically let you sign in once you've given an access to 
the browser. You shouldn't have to worry about allowing cookies and if it ask 
you about allowing cookies, you should have an allowed button.

> On Aug 17, 2021, at 2:06 PM, kevinwass...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I have a Yahoo Mail account. I downloaded the application. However, the Yahoo 
> Mail application wants me to use the web browser on my iPhone. When I open 
> the app it asks for my email and password. Then it wants to use the browser. 
> I allow the Yahoo Mail application to use the browser. But I can’t go any 
> further unless I enable safari to use Cookies. I don’t know how to have 
> Safari to use cookies. Is there another app I can use such as the default 
> email app on my phone so  don’t have to use cookies with Safari? 
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RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad

[Star Gazer]

Is a charging stand the same as a charging cradle and do the mag safe chargers 
work with an otter box case? 

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From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad

Hi,
That is why I like to use a charging stand as it is a lot easier to line up on 
the charging stand then a pad.
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad

It might be just a little bit of a challenge to get the phone placed just 
right. 

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Star Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad

Thank you. My problem is I seem to be inconsistent in placing it and I’m not 
sure why.. unless the chargers pause to preserve battery health? Sometimes mine 
charges like a champ other times  not and other times it appears to pause. 

 

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From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
 
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Wireless charging pad

 

hi,

 

After I placed my phone on the wireless charger, I routinely touch the top 
right corner of the screen to get the battery level announcement. If it is 
charging it will tell me battery level 60% on AC power. If it is not accurately 
placed on the charger, it just announces battery level 60%.

 

Hope this helps. Keith





On Aug 17, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Star Gazer  
wrote:

 

 I like the convenience of 
wireless charging but I’m finding my phone isn’t always centered on the 
charger. I will feel it vibrate, here a ping sound, it will say its charging 
and then it will just randomly stop. The charger is fine, obody else has the 
problem of their phones not being centered, so I’m wondering if any totally 
blind users who like wireless charging can give me a hint? 

 

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Windows

 

From: Brett Campbell  
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Wireless charging pad

 

I received mine yesterday. I don’t have experience to compare either, 
but I did think it would charge a little faster. It is kind of fun just to lay 
the phone down and have it charge. I do have to pay attention to not bumping it 
off center. I also like just setting my AirPods Pro on the pad.






On Aug 17, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

To my surprise, the Nanami Wireless Charger that was due to 
arrive today, actually arrived on Sunday morning.  Delivered by the US Post 
Office no less.

 

This being my first hands-on with a wireless charging pad, this 
is what I can say.

It is about 3.75 inches in diameter.

It comes with the “fast” charging block and a USB A to USB C 
cable that is 3 feet long.

When plugged in properly to the pad, the USB C plug clicks into 
place so you know you have a good solid connection.

 

I don’t know what “fast” charging means on an iPhone SE 2020, 
but I have a thin clear case that is rated to work with wireless charging pads. 
 My phone went from 10% to 100% in a little over three hours.  Again, this is 
my first experience with this kind of charger; but that doesn’t seem fast to 
me.  Maybe I’m missing something.

 

You do have to make sure it is in the center of the back of the 
phone, which means that if you press the home button at all, it will teeter up 
off the charger so you have to hold it down with the other hand.  When I get a 
phone with no home button, which I plan to do this fall, and if I keep the 
charger, that won’t be an issue.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com  

 

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  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 1:09 AM
   

RE: Yahoo Mail

[margaretebooth]

I also have a yahoo account and I use the Outlook app on my phone to read my 
emails.

 

Margaret 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kevinwass...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 2021 5:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Yahoo Mail

 

I have a Yahoo Mail account. I downloaded the application. However, the Yahoo 
Mail application wants me to use the web browser on my iPhone. When I open the 
app it asks for my email and password. Then it wants to use the browser. I 
allow the Yahoo Mail application to use the browser. But I can’t go any further 
unless I enable safari to use Cookies. I don’t know how to have Safari to use 
cookies. Is there another app I can use such as the default email app on my 
phone so  don’t have to use cookies with Safari? 

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RE: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

[Fazil]

Outlook.com is not an available option in the list. It has Microsoft Outlook 
and Microsoft Exchange.

Thanks!

 

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

 

You choose Outlook.com

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: August 17, 2021 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Adding anEmail Account to iPhone5S From outlook.com?

 

Hi, Group.

I am trying to add an email account to my iPhone5S from outlook.com but I am 
not sure what to select from New Account, I mean when I am offered the 
providers such as Yahoo, Microsoft Exchange etc. I do not select Microsoft 
Outlook because it might confuse it with the Outlook mail client. Outlook.com 
is a webmail service from Microsoft but iPhone5S does not include this service 
in its option. Should I select Others?

If I do that, it wants me to provide the information such as SMTP……..

How can I add this Outlook account to my iPhone5S, please?

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

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