Follow up dictation upcoming IOS 16.1

[Gordon]

So I promised an email over the weekend giving my final opinion on IOS 
16.1 that you will all have the opportunity to install on Monday. 
Dictation is working a lot better, however you must use the two finger 
double tap to start and stop. I've always found the dictate button and 
double tapped with one finger to start and stop, but that method doesn't 
work very well in the new version. But the accuracy seems to be much 
better and I would say it would be fine to get the update. They did not 
push out a second release candidate, so I'm assuming they fixed a lot of 
this under the hood without having to update the software. Battery life 
is incredibly good on my phone. I've only use 48 percent in 24 hours and 
I did use my phone a lot yesterday on Saturday. Dictation seemed to work 
itself out sometime on Friday on my device and I've used it a good bit 
prior to sending this message. But it was really busted when I first 
reached out to Mark to clear with him discussing this issue. I 
understand why it's not a good idea to discuss beta software because 
things are constantly changing, but release candidates are the finished 
product that the public will get. I'm just glad that this got sorted out 
before it went public because I know that a lot of people rely on 
dictation working properly for their every day use.


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Re: Widgets Virtual Event

[Margaret Thomas]

Sorry for the typo in my earlier message.  I meant IOS  and should know 
better than to post when I'm tired.


Margaret


On 10/22/2022 4:49 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:

Hi, All:

Since we've been talking about iPhone widgets, I thought I'd pass along 
news of a free virtual event that I heard Mystic Access is holding about 
ISO Widgets on Thursday, October 27, (.


The e-mail I got says:

"This time we'll again be in the world of iOS as we share all about 
widgets. for those who don't use them, they're helpful productivity 
tools which can help you learn tidbits of interest to you without 
searching for and opening an app. While we won't talk about adding and 
using lock screen widgets, as we've found this a complicated endeavor, 
we will discuss what kinds of widgets are available, and how to install 
and use them to make your life and work more convenient.


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Being asked for password each time I get a free app

[Wayne Merritt]

Hello. I am being asked for a password each time I want to download a free app 
from the App Store. I thought there was a way in the iPhone SettingS to turn 
off this behavior, but darned if I can find it. I am also being asked to 
confirm with Face ID, which I am fine in doing. It is the constant password 
verification requests when getting free apps that are getting on my nerves. All 
thoughts welcome. I'm using iOS 16.0.3 on an iPhone 13 Pro. 

Warm regards, 

Wayne Merritt
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
Check out my GoodReads page:
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Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

[Cris Ali]

Hi Sieghard,
I remember the days when one needed to go to a phone store to have them cut the 
full size sim card to the Nano sim size. My first experience was in 2012 in 
Jordan. When the store tech told me he is going to cut the sim card, I got very 
nervous.somehow I thought that he may screw up things.
But truthfully, my experience with using an e-sim for the last three years is 
very positive. When I setup my 14 pro last night I was nervous that the 
transfer of the e-sim from my old phone to the new one may fail, and thus I 
will have no phone service to call the help and support number. Then I was 
happily surprised by the ease the e-sim transfer went.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 3:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I remember when the iPhone 5S first came out which had the Nano SIM that I 
> went to the Philippines and had a really hard time finding a Nano SIM since 
> most of the carriers and devices still used full-size SIM's or Micro SIM's. I 
> ended up finding a place where they told me that a Micro SIM can actually be 
> cut to fit a Nano SIM tray and that is what they did, but when technologies 
> change there is always a period of a couple of years when things might not be 
> quite as one would like, certainly keeping your old phone for travel will 
> solve your issue. I think, however, that many carriers in many countries will 
> offer e-SIM options because honestly it is such a superior system that I 
> wonder why nobody came up with it years ago.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 7:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
> 
> Hi folks,
> I followed this thread with interest, because I travel overseas frequently 
> enough to be concerned about the lack of physical sim tray in iPhone 14 
> series sold in the US. Each time I travel to another country I buy a local 
> sim specific to the country I am visiting. Usually it takes less than two 
> minutes to replace my american with the local sim and start using a local 
> number. Nevertheless, I ordered iPhone 14 Pro and just received it this 
> evening. For the last three years I have been using an ESIM on my XR in order 
> to keep my physical sim tray free for the time of travel overseas. 
> Setting up my new phone was very easy and surprisingly, the automatic 
> transfer of my e-sim from my XR to my 14 Pro went very smoothly. For the time 
> being, I will keep my XR saved for travel overseas, just in case I found it 
> difficult to get e-sims in other countries, and I recommend to any of you who 
> travel frequently overseas to keep your old phones for this purpose if you 
> upgrade to series 14.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>> 
>> I would refuse to have an eSIM unless I was given a specific set of 
>> instructions as to how to transfer the Sim between one found in another. I 
>> have my old iPhone six which I would want to go to if my present iPhone 
>> gives me problems. I would not want to be without that physical Sim card for 
>> right now. Maybe for all times going forward.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 20, 2022, at 2:15 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think it is kind of like the Home Button; there are those who will 
>>> grieve. I wonder how much longer the SE models will have a Home Button? 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 12:34 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
>>> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>> 
>>> And if all you have to do is transfer your e-SIM from your old iPhone to 
>>> your new one during the setup process of your new phone it would be just as 
>>> easy peasy.
>>> I understand why people who make a living reviewing products have multiple 
>>> phones and want to transfer a SIM from one device to another a lot, but I 
>>> never understood why somebody would want to spend all that money to buy 2 
>>> or 3 high-end phones and use one this day or this week and another the 
>>> next. I would venture a guess and say that this is a pretty small minority 
>>> among phone owners.
>>> I haven't really read up on this, but I understand that transferring an 
>>> e-SIM from an old phone to a new one is a pretty easy and straight forward 
>>> thing. I actually switched to an e-SIM on my iPhone 11 because I wanted the 
>>> physical SIM tray to be available for when I travel to the Philippines with 
>>> my wife. I haven't bought a new phone since then so I didn't have to 
>>> transfer said e-SIM. Anyways, if there is an easy way to transfer 

RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't like disagreeing with Sieghard, and I'm not really disagreeing, but I'd 
have no problem recommending a two year old phone or even older. If the person 
realizes that they'll be getting that many fewer updates then it's just a 
decision on whether the money they're saving is worth the shortened life span 
or not.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

It is entirely personal preference, but for the most part I would not recommend 
somebody buy a phone which is already 2 years behind.
I think it's totally OK to buy last year's phone and given the less than mind 
blowing changes between the iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 I can understand why people 
who do need or want to upgrade look at the iPhone 14 Pro. As far as that goes I 
think somebody is much better off buying an iPhone 13 Pro instead of a regular 
iPhone 14 or 14 Plus because as has been mentioned many times, the processor in 
the regular iPhone 14 is the same A15 processor which is in all the iPhone 13 
models and if you buy a 13 Pro you at least get LiDAR which allows you to use 
door detection and whatever other things developers may dream up which can use 
this sensor.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hi all, on this same subject, I noticed that no one has mentioned the iPhone 
12. And I have also seen on this list that people have had problems with their 
iPhone 12. If someone is in the market for an iPhone should they not get an 
iPhone 12 or would it matter.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. That 
> does make a difference in my choice.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
>> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know 
>> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>> 
>>> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden 
>>> door, four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a 
>>> sound when powered on and off.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>> 
>>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them 
>>> before I decide.
>>> 
>>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other 
>>> hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do 
>>> want to get a good one that will last.
>>> 
>>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big 
>>> slab I have to carry around.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd 
 take a look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could 
 of course also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you 
 to decide. Here are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
 
 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a 
 Touch Id virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly 
 that reason, but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id 
 would be best, if I had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I 
 would choose Face Id. There is also the fact that the Se third Gen 
 may very well be the last phone with a home button and Touch Id 
 unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I dat 
 some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just 
 read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track 
 record with his predictions, is revealing first information about 
 the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring 
 as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new 
 iPhone SE may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it 
 appears that the home button may go away and since I doubt Apple 
 will put a Touch Id capable side button on any phone I guess this 
 means it will of course have Face Id. I would get used to using a 
 phone without home button from the start even though having an iPad 
 you of course would be used to a home button, but if this rumour about the 
 fourth generation SE is true then it means we will never again see 

Widgets Virtual Event

[Margaret Thomas]

Hi, All:

Since we've been talking about iPhone widgets, I thought I'd pass along 
news of a free virtual event that I heard Mystic Access is holding about 
ISO Widgets on Thursday, October 27, (.


The e-mail I got says:

"This time we'll again be in the world of iOS as we share all about 
widgets. for those who don't use them, they're helpful productivity 
tools which can help you learn tidbits of interest to you without 
searching for and opening an app. While we won't talk about adding and 
using lock screen widgets, as we've found this a complicated endeavor, 
we will discuss what kinds of widgets are available, and how to install 
and use them to make your life and work more convenient.


This event is at 8:30 PM ET, and as with all our live events, it will be 
recorded if you can't attend live. Because it's been a while since our 
last free live event, here's the joining info for your convenience:


Join Zoom Meeting
https://mysticaccess.zoom.us/j/82573154671?pwd=Z1NwbGpSSlk2aUR1cVpEU3Jld05tUT09

Meeting ID: 825 7315 4671
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One tap mobile
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RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And for most people 256 Gb is more than enough, I have an iPhone 11 with 64 Gb 
and use a bit more than half and currently 10 Gb are Audible books I have 
downloaded but not yet listened tto.
There are only two scenarios I can think of why you would need 512 Gb or 1 Tb 
and that is if you like to record tons of videos or if you are a digital 
hoarder like Joshua who wants to have every book downloaded to his device 
whether he reads them or not. I have a little over 1000 books in my Audible 
library and I assume that even a 1 Tb phone wouldn't be enough if I wanted to 
actually keep a downloaded copy on my phone, but I really don't care because if 
I do want to listen to a book again I just find it in my library and for the 
most part with the fiber connections many of us have nowadays it take a minute 
or less to download it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. 
That does make a difference in my choice.

Evan



On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know 
> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>
> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden 
>> door, four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a 
>> sound when powered on and off.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Evan Reese
>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>
>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>
>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them 
>> before I decide.
>>
>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other 
>> hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do 
>> want to get a good one that will last.
>>
>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big 
>> slab I have to carry around.
>>
>> Evan
>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take 
>>> a look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of 
>>> course also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to 
>>> decide. Here are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>>>
>>> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a 
>>> Touch Id virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly 
>>> that reason, but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id 
>>> would be best, if I had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I 
>>> would choose Face Id. There is also the fact that the Se third Gen 
>>> may very well be the last phone with a home button and Touch Id 
>>> unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I dat 
>>> some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just 
>>> read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track 
>>> record with his predictions, is revealing first information about 
>>> the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring 
>>> as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new 
>>> iPhone SE may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it appears 
>>> that the home button may go away and since I doubt Apple will put a 
>>> Touch Id capable side button on any phone I guess this means it will 
>>> of course have Face Id. I would get used to using a phone without 
>>> home button from the start even though having an iPad you of course 
>>> would be used to a home button, but if this rumour about the fourth 
>>> generation SE is true then it means we will never again see an iPhone with 
>>> a home button.
>>>
>>> 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check 
>>> them out and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 
>>> Mini. They really are not all that much larger physically, but you 
>>> get the benefit of the LiDAR sensor which is required for features 
>>> like door detection and maybe other things in the future.
>>>
>>> Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to 
>>> use MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external 
>>> batteries is very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen 
>>> iPhone SE has MagSafe. I assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely 
>>> the 13 Pro and 14 Pro have it.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of llump...@austin.rr.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>>
>>> 

RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is entirely personal preference, but for the most part I would not recommend 
somebody buy a phone which is already 2 years behind.
I think it's totally OK to buy last year's phone and given the less than mind 
blowing changes between the iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 I can understand why people 
who do need or want to upgrade look at the iPhone 14 Pro. As far as that goes I 
think somebody is much better off buying an iPhone 13 Pro instead of a regular 
iPhone 14 or 14 Plus because as has been mentioned many times, the processor in 
the regular iPhone 14 is the same A15 processor which is in all the iPhone 13 
models and if you buy a 13 Pro you at least get LiDAR which allows you to use 
door detection and whatever other things developers may dream up which can use 
this sensor.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hi all, on this same subject, I noticed that no one has mentioned the iPhone 
12. And I have also seen on this list that people have had problems with their 
iPhone 12. If someone is in the market for an iPhone should they not get an 
iPhone 12 or would it matter.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. That 
> does make a difference in my choice.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
>> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know 
>> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>> 
>>> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden 
>>> door, four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a 
>>> sound when powered on and off.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>> 
>>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them 
>>> before I decide.
>>> 
>>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other 
>>> hand, since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do 
>>> want to get a good one that will last.
>>> 
>>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big 
>>> slab I have to carry around.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd 
 take a look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could 
 of course also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you 
 to decide. Here are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
 
 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a 
 Touch Id virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly 
 that reason, but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id 
 would be best, if I had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I 
 would choose Face Id. There is also the fact that the Se third Gen 
 may very well be the last phone with a home button and Touch Id 
 unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I dat 
 some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just 
 read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track 
 record with his predictions, is revealing first information about 
 the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring 
 as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new 
 iPhone SE may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it 
 appears that the home button may go away and since I doubt Apple 
 will put a Touch Id capable side button on any phone I guess this 
 means it will of course have Face Id. I would get used to using a 
 phone without home button from the start even though having an iPad 
 you of course would be used to a home button, but if this rumour about the 
 fourth generation SE is true then it means we will never again see an 
 iPhone with a home button.
 
 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check 
 them out and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 
 13 Mini. They really are not all that much larger physically, but 
 you get the benefit of the LiDAR sensor which is required for 
 features like door detection and maybe other things in the future.
 
 Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to 
 use MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external 
 batteries is very nice and to my 

RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Chris,

I remember when the iPhone 5S first came out which had the Nano SIM that I went 
to the Philippines and had a really hard time finding a Nano SIM since most of 
the carriers and devices still used full-size SIM's or Micro SIM's. I ended up 
finding a place where they told me that a Micro SIM can actually be cut to fit 
a Nano SIM tray and that is what they did, but when technologies change there 
is always a period of a couple of years when things might not be quite as one 
would like, certainly keeping your old phone for travel will solve your issue. 
I think, however, that many carriers in many countries will offer e-SIM options 
because honestly it is such a superior system that I wonder why nobody came up 
with it years ago.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

Hi folks,
I followed this thread with interest, because I travel overseas frequently 
enough to be concerned about the lack of physical sim tray in iPhone 14 series 
sold in the US. Each time I travel to another country I buy a local sim 
specific to the country I am visiting. Usually it takes less than two minutes 
to replace my american with the local sim and start using a local number. 
Nevertheless, I ordered iPhone 14 Pro and just received it this evening. For 
the last three years I have been using an ESIM on my XR in order to keep my 
physical sim tray free for the time of travel overseas. 
Setting up my new phone was very easy and surprisingly, the automatic transfer 
of my e-sim from my XR to my 14 Pro went very smoothly. For the time being, I 
will keep my XR saved for travel overseas, just in case I found it difficult to 
get e-sims in other countries, and I recommend to any of you who travel 
frequently overseas to keep your old phones for this purpose if you upgrade to 
series 14.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> I would refuse to have an eSIM unless I was given a specific set of 
> instructions as to how to transfer the Sim between one found in another. I 
> have my old iPhone six which I would want to go to if my present iPhone gives 
> me problems. I would not want to be without that physical Sim card for right 
> now. Maybe for all times going forward.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 2:15 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I think it is kind of like the Home Button; there are those who will 
>> grieve. I wonder how much longer the SE models will have a Home Button? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 12:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
>> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>> 
>> And if all you have to do is transfer your e-SIM from your old iPhone to 
>> your new one during the setup process of your new phone it would be just as 
>> easy peasy.
>> I understand why people who make a living reviewing products have multiple 
>> phones and want to transfer a SIM from one device to another a lot, but I 
>> never understood why somebody would want to spend all that money to buy 2 or 
>> 3 high-end phones and use one this day or this week and another the next. I 
>> would venture a guess and say that this is a pretty small minority among 
>> phone owners.
>> I haven't really read up on this, but I understand that transferring an 
>> e-SIM from an old phone to a new one is a pretty easy and straight forward 
>> thing. I actually switched to an e-SIM on my iPhone 11 because I wanted the 
>> physical SIM tray to be available for when I travel to the Philippines with 
>> my wife. I haven't bought a new phone since then so I didn't have to 
>> transfer said e-SIM. Anyways, if there is an easy way to transfer an e-SIM 
>> between 2 or 3 devices whenever one wants to do so then the argument about 
>> the physical SIM becomes a mute point. From the little I did read all it may 
>> take is a QR code from your carrier and then to scan said QR code to 
>> transfer the e-SIM and before I would moon over the lack of a physical SIM I 
>> would certainly want to inform myself as to how easy or not it is to switch 
>> e-SIMs between the devices I have.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 1:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
>> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>> 
>> I have had the same sim card now since my iPhone 5S. Each time I get a new 
>> one I just pop 

RE: How to use files on an iPhone

[Christopher Chaltain]

I too agree with Alan, Chris and Rich. For me, I use Microsoft 365, as Rich 
points out. I get 1TB of storage in One Drive, and I just have the Documents 
folder in Windows synced with One Drive. This means that I can always go to One 
Drive to see what ever is also in the Documents folder on my PC. I use this for 
consuming content, like reading Word documents or listening to MP3 files, and 
I’ll also update text files with something like VoiceDream Writer. Even though 
I prefer creating content on my PC with it’s desktop operating system and 
applications and using a full desktop keyboard, I wouldn’t say I’d never see 
myself doing this on a mobile device.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to use files on an iPhone

I also agree with Chris. I understand the desire to be able to manage all 
content using your iDevice but I'm not convinced it will ever be totally 
practical for those of us dependent on VoiceOver and accessibility.

Personally, when I got my first iPhone in 2013, Dropbox was the cloud service I 
found most supported by the apps I used and it also gave me the best bridge 
between files on my computer and iPhone. I decided long ago that the price of 
the Dropbox Plus account was well worth it and I haven't looked back.

I'll close by confessing that I will always prefer doing any serious editing on 
my computer with a full sized keyboard so I'll never be using my iPhone for 
Word or Excel editing.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:58 AM, Chris Chaffin 
mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Kay,

Well, getting files to your iPhone is not a difficult one.  You could simply 
use one of the cloud storage programs / apps, like Dropbox, One Drive, or 
Google Drive.  I personally use Dropbox, and this allows me to access any of my 
files on both my computer or iPhone.

Now as far as editing files on your iPhone, this first depends on what type of 
files you will be editing.  If they are MS Office files like Word or Excel, I 
will tell you that this can not be done as easily as it is done on your 
computer.  Word was not the most accessible on the iPhone, but I have not used 
it for a while, so do not know if it has gotten any better.  And Excel, because 
of the screen size, is very slow and tedious to use.  On my phone, I mainly use 
txt or RTF file formats when writing.  And using Mark Down can be handy when 
needed.

If you are going to be doing a lot of editing and writing, I would probably 
recommend some type of keyboard.  there are many out there, so it is really 
depending on what you prefer to use.  You can use a regular blue tooth 
keyboard, or you could use something like the Orbit Writer or Hable keyboard.  
Again, this comes down to preference.

As far as what apps to use, well, again, this will depend on what type of files 
you will be working with.  As far as editors there are lots out there, and 
everybody has there favorite.  there's Voice Dream Writer, Drafts, 1Writer, and 
of coarse Notes.

I hope this has been helpful and at least gives you a starting point.

Chris



On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:35 AM, Kay Malmquist 
mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Here is my great conundrum.  I do so much with my iPhone and I am sure there is 
an answer to this.  I have a bunch of files on my computer, but I want to know 
if there is a good way to either put them on my iPhone and have total access to 
them using whatever app.  Or can I load them on to a hard drive and access them 
from my iPhone somehow?  I want to be able to edit them and everything I can do 
with my computer.  My ultimate goal would be to move away from using the 
computer as much as possible and just using the iPhone.  If anyone can tell me 
if this is possible and how I might go about doing this, I'd really appreciate 
the input.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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RE: Series 7 watch and InfoGraph complication

[rick.alfaro]

Chris, thanks very much. Don’t know how I missed that one. I looked everywhere 
except for VO settings. (lol)

 

 

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Chaffin
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Subject: Re: Series 7 watch and InfoGraph complication

 

 

This can be changed in Settings.  You can get to it in the Watch app on your 
phone, or through Settings on your watch.

 

Just go to Accessibility / Voiceover / Speak Seconds, and you can choose either 
Always or Never speak the seconds when displayed.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Chris

 





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I’ve been using the InfoGraph complication lately and can’t figure out how to 
change the time display format. It insists on showing hour:minutes:seconds 
where I would prefer to just show hours and minutes without the seconds and 
haven’t found a way to change this. Is there a way or is this not possible? 
Thanks.

 

 

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Re: Series 7 watch and InfoGraph complication

[Chris Chaffin]

This can be changed in Settings.  You can get to it in the Watch app on your 
phone, or through Settings on your watch.

Just go to Accessibility / Voiceover / Speak Seconds, and you can choose either 
Always or Never speak the seconds when displayed.

Hope this helps.

Chris
 

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 11:49 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> I’ve been using the InfoGraph complication lately and can’t figure out how to 
> change the time display format. It insists on showing hour:minutes:seconds 
> where I would prefer to just show hours and minutes without the seconds and 
> haven’t found a way to change this. Is there a way or is this not possible? 
> Thanks.
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Series 7 watch and InfoGraph complication

[rick.alfaro]

I’ve been using the InfoGraph complication lately and can’t figure out how to 
change the time display format. It insists on showing hour:minutes:seconds 
where I would prefer to just show hours and minutes without the seconds and 
haven’t found a way to change this. Is there a way or is this not possible? 
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Re: How to use files on an iPhone

[Alan Lemly]

I also agree with Chris. I understand the desire to be able to manage all content using your iDevice but I'm not convinced it will ever be totally practical for those of us dependent on VoiceOver and accessibility. Personally, when I got my first iPhone in 2013, Dropbox was the cloud service I found most supported by the apps I used and it also gave me the best bridge between files on my computer and iPhone. I decided long ago that the price of the Dropbox Plus account was well worth it and I haven't looked back. I'll close by confessing that I will always prefer doing any serious editing on my computer with a full sized keyboard so I'll never be using my iPhone for Word or Excel editing. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 22, 2022, at 7:58 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:Hi Kay,Well, getting files to your iPhone is not a difficult one.  You could simply use one of the cloud storage programs / apps, like Dropbox, One Drive, or Google Drive.  I personally use Dropbox, and this allows me to access any of my files on both my computer or iPhone.Now as far as editing files on your iPhone, this first depends on what type of files you will be editing.  If they are MS Office files like Word or Excel, I will tell you that this can not be done as easily as it is done on your computer.  Word was not the most accessible on the iPhone, but I have not used it for a while, so do not know if it has gotten any better.  And Excel, because of the screen size, is very slow and tedious to use.  On my phone, I mainly use txt or RTF file formats when writing.  And using Mark Down can be handy when needed.If you are going to be doing a lot of editing and writing, I would probably recommend some type of keyboard.  there are many out there, so it is really depending on what you prefer to use.  You can use a regular blue tooth keyboard, or you could use something like the Orbit Writer or Hable keyboard.  Again, this comes down to preference.As far as what apps to use, well, again, this will depend on what type of files you will be working with.  As far as editors there are lots out there, and everybody has there favorite.  there's Voice Dream Writer, Drafts, 1Writer, and of coarse Notes.I hope this has been helpful and at least gives you a starting point.ChrisOn Oct 22, 2022, at 7:35 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:






Here is my great conundrum.  I do so much with 
my iPhone and I am sure there is an answer to this.  I have a bunch of 
files on my computer, but I want to know if there is a good way to either put 
them on my iPhone and have total access to them using whatever app.  Or can 
I load them on to a hard drive and access them from my iPhone somehow?  I 
want to be able to edit them and everything I can do with my computer.  My 
ultimate goal would be to move away from using the computer as much as possible 
and just using the iPhone.  If anyone can tell me if this is possible and 
how I might go about doing this, I'd really appreciate the input.  Thanks 
much.
Kay Malmquistkay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
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that counts. 
 
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RE: How to use files on an iPhone

[Richard Turner]

I agree with everything Chris said.  Word nor Excel are truly usable for 
editing on the iPhone for a VoiceOver user.  

Text files are great with things like Voice Dream Writer, and other text 
editing apps.

The beauty of Voice Dream Writer is that while you can only edit in txt format, 
you can export to several file types if sharing a document with someone else.

 

The other thing you could do with those files is to buy the adapter for the 
iphone with the USB port that I think is called the lightning camera 3 or 
something like that.  You could then put the files on a thumb drive.  The 
adapter has a port for the lightning power adapter and a USB A thumb drive.  It 
has to have power to use with the iPhone, but you could then access the files 
on the thumb drive and if needed, copy them to your phone.

 

If you don’t have Microsoft 365, you might consider it, you get 1 TB of 
OneDrive storage with your account.

For the individual account its around $70 per year, so less than $6 per month.

 

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to use files on an iPhone

 

Hi Chris,

Yes, this is definitely something to think about.  The only problem I have with 
drop box is the limit of storage and what you have to pay for the pittance they 
give you.  Other cloud options might be the way to go though.  Thanks for 
bringing up the issues with word and excel.  It just seems that I could be 
using that phone to more capacity.  Thanks much for your response.

- Original Message - 

From: Chris Chaffin   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 7:58 AM

Subject: Re: How to use files on an iPhone

 

Hi Kay,

 

Well, getting files to your iPhone is not a difficult one.  You could simply 
use one of the cloud storage programs / apps, like Dropbox, One Drive, or 
Google Drive.  I personally use Dropbox, and this allows me to access any of my 
files on both my computer or iPhone.

 

Now as far as editing files on your iPhone, this first depends on what type of 
files you will be editing.  If they are MS Office files like Word or Excel, I 
will tell you that this can not be done as easily as it is done on your 
computer.  Word was not the most accessible on the iPhone, but I have not used 
it for a while, so do not know if it has gotten any better.  And Excel, because 
of the screen size, is very slow and tedious to use.  On my phone, I mainly use 
txt or RTF file formats when writing.  And using Mark Down can be handy when 
needed.

 

If you are going to be doing a lot of editing and writing, I would probably 
recommend some type of keyboard.  there are many out there, so it is really 
depending on what you prefer to use.  You can use a regular blue tooth 
keyboard, or you could use something like the Orbit Writer or Hable keyboard.  
Again, this comes down to preference.

 

As far as what apps to use, well, again, this will depend on what type of files 
you will be working with.  As far as editors there are lots out there, and 
everybody has there favorite.  there's Voice Dream Writer, Drafts, 1Writer, and 
of coarse Notes.

 

I hope this has been helpful and at least gives you a starting point.

 

Chris

 





On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:35 AM, Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Here is my great conundrum.  I do so much with my iPhone and I am sure there is 
an answer to this.  I have a bunch of files on my computer, but I want to know 
if there is a good way to either put them on my iPhone and have total access to 
them using whatever app.  Or can I load them on to a hard drive and access them 
from my iPhone somehow?  I want to be able to edit them and everything I can do 
with my computer.  My ultimate goal would be to move away from using the 
computer as much as possible and just using the iPhone.  If anyone can tell me 
if this is possible and how I might go about doing this, I'd really appreciate 
the input.  Thanks much.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that 
counts. 

 

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Re: How to use files on an iPhone

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi Chris,
Yes, this is definitely something to think about.  The only problem I have 
with drop box is the limit of storage and what you have to pay for the 
pittance they give you.  Other cloud options might be the way to go though. 
Thanks for bringing up the issues with word and excel.  It just seems that I 
could be using that phone to more capacity.  Thanks much for your response.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Chaffin
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 7:58 AM
  Subject: Re: How to use files on an iPhone


  Hi Kay,


  Well, getting files to your iPhone is not a difficult one.  You could 
simply use one of the cloud storage programs / apps, like Dropbox, One 
Drive, or Google Drive.  I personally use Dropbox, and this allows me to 
access any of my files on both my computer or iPhone.


  Now as far as editing files on your iPhone, this first depends on what 
type of files you will be editing.  If they are MS Office files like Word or 
Excel, I will tell you that this can not be done as easily as it is done on 
your computer.  Word was not the most accessible on the iPhone, but I have 
not used it for a while, so do not know if it has gotten any better.  And 
Excel, because of the screen size, is very slow and tedious to use.  On my 
phone, I mainly use txt or RTF file formats when writing.  And using Mark 
Down can be handy when needed.


  If you are going to be doing a lot of editing and writing, I would 
probably recommend some type of keyboard.  there are many out there, so it 
is really depending on what you prefer to use.  You can use a regular blue 
tooth keyboard, or you could use something like the Orbit Writer or Hable 
keyboard.  Again, this comes down to preference.


  As far as what apps to use, well, again, this will depend on what type of 
files you will be working with.  As far as editors there are lots out there, 
and everybody has there favorite.  there's Voice Dream Writer, Drafts, 
1Writer, and of coarse Notes.


  I hope this has been helpful and at least gives you a starting point.


  Chris




On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:35 AM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:



Here is my great conundrum.  I do so much with my iPhone and I am sure 
there is an answer to this.  I have a bunch of files on my computer, but I 
want to know if there is a good way to either put them on my iPhone and have 
total access to them using whatever app.  Or can I load them on to a hard 
drive and access them from my iPhone somehow?  I want to be able to edit 
them and everything I can do with my computer.  My ultimate goal would be to 
move away from using the computer as much as possible and just using the 
iPhone.  If anyone can tell me if this is possible and how I might go about 
doing this, I'd really appreciate the input.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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continue that counts.

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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

[Lelia Struve]

Hi all, on this same subject, I noticed that no one has mentioned the iPhone 
12. And I have also seen on this list that people have had problems with their 
iPhone 12. If someone is in the market for an iPhone should they not get an 
iPhone 12 or would it matter.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. That 
> does make a difference in my choice.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
>> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know
>> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>> 
>>> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden door,
>>> four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a sound when
>>> powered on and off.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>> 
>>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I
>>> decide.
>>> 
>>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other hand,
>>> since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do want to get a
>>> good one that will last.
>>> 
>>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab I
>>> have to carry around.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a
 look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course
 also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here
 are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
 
 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id
 virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason,
 but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I
 had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There
 is also the fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone
 with a home button and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce
 under display Touch I dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying
 this because I just read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty
 good track record with his predictions, is revealing first information
 about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring
 as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new iPhone SE
 may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it appears that the home
 button may go away and since I doubt Apple will put a Touch Id capable
 side button on any phone I guess this means it will of course have Face
 Id. I would get used to using a phone without home button from the start
 even though having an iPad you of course would be used to a home button,
 but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is true then it means we
 will never again see an iPhone with a home button.
 
 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out
 and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They
 really are not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of
 the LiDAR sensor which is required for features like door detection and
 maybe other things in the future.
 
 Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use
 MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is
 very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has
 MagSafe. I assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro
 have it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 llump...@austin.rr.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
 
 Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Evan Reese
 Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
 
 Hey Guys,
 
 I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that
 looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told
 me that they weren't making newer models of that one.
 
 Is that true?
 
 Thanks much.
 
 Evan
 
 
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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

[Evan Reese]

Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. 
That does make a difference in my choice.


Evan



On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know
the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.

On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden door,
four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a sound when
powered on and off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.

I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I
decide.

I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other hand,
since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do want to get a
good one that will last.

Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab I
have to carry around.

Evan
On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a
look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course
also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here
are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:

1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id
virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason,
but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I
had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There
is also the fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone
with a home button and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce
under display Touch I dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying
this because I just read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty
good track record with his predictions, is revealing first information
about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring
as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new iPhone SE
may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it appears that the home
button may go away and since I doubt Apple will put a Touch Id capable
side button on any phone I guess this means it will of course have Face
Id. I would get used to using a phone without home button from the start
even though having an iPad you of course would be used to a home button,
but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is true then it means we
will never again see an iPhone with a home button.

2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out
and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They
really are not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of
the LiDAR sensor which is required for features like door detection and
maybe other things in the future.

Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use
MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is
very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has
MagSafe. I assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro
have it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Hey Guys,

I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that
looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told
me that they weren't making newer models of that one.

Is that true?

Thanks much.

Evan


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Re: How to use files on an iPhone

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi Kay,

Well, getting files to your iPhone is not a difficult one.  You could simply 
use one of the cloud storage programs / apps, like Dropbox, One Drive, or 
Google Drive.  I personally use Dropbox, and this allows me to access any of my 
files on both my computer or iPhone.

Now as far as editing files on your iPhone, this first depends on what type of 
files you will be editing.  If they are MS Office files like Word or Excel, I 
will tell you that this can not be done as easily as it is done on your 
computer.  Word was not the most accessible on the iPhone, but I have not used 
it for a while, so do not know if it has gotten any better.  And Excel, because 
of the screen size, is very slow and tedious to use.  On my phone, I mainly use 
txt or RTF file formats when writing.  And using Mark Down can be handy when 
needed.

If you are going to be doing a lot of editing and writing, I would probably 
recommend some type of keyboard.  there are many out there, so it is really 
depending on what you prefer to use.  You can use a regular blue tooth 
keyboard, or you could use something like the Orbit Writer or Hable keyboard.  
Again, this comes down to preference.

As far as what apps to use, well, again, this will depend on what type of files 
you will be working with.  As far as editors there are lots out there, and 
everybody has there favorite.  there's Voice Dream Writer, Drafts, 1Writer, and 
of coarse Notes.

I hope this has been helpful and at least gives you a starting point.

Chris


> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:35 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here is my great conundrum.  I do so much with my iPhone and I am sure there 
> is an answer to this.  I have a bunch of files on my computer, but I want to 
> know if there is a good way to either put them on my iPhone and have total 
> access to them using whatever app.  Or can I load them on to a hard drive and 
> access them from my iPhone somehow?  I want to be able to edit them and 
> everything I can do with my computer.  My ultimate goal would be to move away 
> from using the computer as much as possible and just using the iPhone.  If 
> anyone can tell me if this is possible and how I might go about doing this, 
> I'd really appreciate the input.  Thanks much.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
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> that counts.
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Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know
the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.

On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden door,
> four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a sound when
> powered on and off.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Evan Reese
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>
> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>
> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I
> decide.
>
> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other hand,
> since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do want to get a
> good one that will last.
>
> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab I
> have to carry around.
>
> Evan
> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a
>> look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course
>> also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here
>> are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>>
>> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id
>> virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason,
>> but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I
>> had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There
>> is also the fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone
>> with a home button and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce
>> under display Touch I dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying
>> this because I just read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty
>> good track record with his predictions, is revealing first information
>> about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring
>> as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new iPhone SE
>> may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it appears that the home
>> button may go away and since I doubt Apple will put a Touch Id capable
>> side button on any phone I guess this means it will of course have Face
>> Id. I would get used to using a phone without home button from the start
>> even though having an iPad you of course would be used to a home button,
>> but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is true then it means we
>> will never again see an iPhone with a home button.
>>
>> 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out
>> and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They
>> really are not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of
>> the LiDAR sensor which is required for features like door detection and
>> maybe other things in the future.
>>
>> Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use
>> MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is
>> very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has
>> MagSafe. I assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro
>> have it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> llump...@austin.rr.com
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>
>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Evan Reese
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that
>> looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told
>> me that they weren't making newer models of that one.
>>
>> Is that true?
>>
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>>
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How to use files on an iPhone

[Kay Malmquist]

Here is my great conundrum.  I do so much with my iPhone and I am sure there 
is an answer to this.  I have a bunch of files on my computer, but I want to 
know if there is a good way to either put them on my iPhone and have total 
access to them using whatever app.  Or can I load them on to a hard drive 
and access them from my iPhone somehow?  I want to be able to edit them and 
everything I can do with my computer.  My ultimate goal would be to move 
away from using the computer as much as possible and just using the iPhone. 
If anyone can tell me if this is possible and how I might go about doing 
this, I'd really appreciate the input.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue 
that counts.

- Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965) (Prime Minister of Great Britain)

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