Re: Login to Envision With Apple ID?

[Mohammad Fazil]

Yes, I have just found out that it is free now so I have logged in with my 
Google ID!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:

I thought that the Envision app was now free for everyone., Is this not true?

Donna



Unfortunately can't help you there except to suggest that if you have 
communicated with them to ask them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Login to Envision With Apple ID?

where should I  go to find my active subscription that could show Envision that 
I have a valid subscription?
where should I go to get the screen shot of my login id, please?
Thanks/!


On Nov 4, 2022, at 5:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

You take a screenshot by pressing the side button and volume  up button at the 
same time.
When you do you hear a camera like sound and then at the bottom left of the 
screen is a thumbnail image of the screenshot, but you can simply press the 
buttons and after a short delay Voiceover will say "Screenshot, button", once 
you hear this double tap anywhere.
After you doble tap most likely Voiceover will say "Done", this is the top left 
button on the screen, if you flick right you get the following in this order:
Undo, dimmed (this let's you undo any changes you may make to the screenshot 
like cropping it and so on, most likely not something you would or could do)
Redo, dimmed (same sort of thing, I wouldn't worry about it)
Markup
Delete
Share (this is the one you most likely would want, once you tap it your regular 
share sheet opens and you can email it to yourself or somebody else, text it, 
save it and all that)
Now you get stuff which I don't know what exactly it is for, I assume it is 
where you may drag to crop the image:
Top left corner handle, flick right and you hear "Screenshot 1 of 1, flick 
again and you get top edge hHandle, then top right corner handle, left edge 
handle, right edge handle, bottom left corner handle, bottom right corner 
handle, bottom edge handle.
Lastly you get Crop and Scale or Select Text and the last item is Detect Text 
which you actually could use and which would recognize any text in the 
screenshot.

If you don't do anything after taking the screenshot, e.g. if you don't double 
tap when Voiceover says "Screenshot, button" then it goes away after a few 
seconds, but your screenshot will automatically be saved to your camera roll 
and if you open Photos you can find a "screenshot" category under "Media Types" 
and you can find your screenshot there and you can of course share it from 
there just like any picture.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Login to Envision With Apple ID?

Hi, Sieghard!
I wrote to Envision about my login issue and they sent the following email and 
ask me to submit a couple of screen shots. could you, please, tell me where 
should I go for those screen shots? Here is there email:

"Hi Muhammad!

Thank you for reaching out! I wasn't able to find an account under this email 
or your name. Can you send me a screenshot of your Apple ID from your phone and 
a screenshot of the subscription? I will have our development team try to find 
the disconnect and work on getting this fixed.

Thanks!

EnVision Support"



On Nov 2, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Not sure why this doesn't work. Anyways, if you bought a lifetime subscription 
you should probably have login credentials and I would just use them.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2022 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Login to Envision With Apple ID?

Hi, Sieghard. When I use Apple ID, Voiceover gives me ‘Continue Button’. When I 
double-tap it, this button does not accept  my gesture. Am I doing something 
wrong?
Thanks! On Nov 1, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Yes, you have to provide your Apple Id password and yes, it is save. Actually 
it is probably safer because you can choose for Apple to reveal your actual 
email address or to hide it in which case any emails still get forwarded to 
you. Keep in mind that if you had already created an account/separate login 
with Envision I would use that and if you forgot the password you can probably 
request a password reset and change it. I sometimes use my Apple Id to log in 
if that option is given and if I hadn't previously set up login credentials. 
There is a chance if your lifetime subscription is connected to a separate 
log

Re: Braille Screen Input question's

[Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

You activate this in the Rotor.If it dosen't in the Rotor add "braille Screen Input into the Rotor.מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.0509549090לדף העסקי שלי:https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ ‫ב-5 בנוב׳ 2022, בשעה 21:22, ‏‏Mohammad Fazil ‏ כתב/ה:‬




Thanks much! How can I activate Braille typing, please?
Thanks!


On Nov 5, 2022, at 11:54 AM, Gordon  wrote:



Table top mode is just like a perkins without the space bar in the middle. So dot 3 will be closest to the ear peace speaker and dot 6 will be closest to the bottom of the screen where the charger goes. But your finger positioning will be the same as it
 would be with a Perkins. The phone will either sit on your lap or a surface in front of you. Screen away mode is better for holding the phone in your hands. In screen away mode the back of the phone is facing your chest long ways where the ear peace is on
 the left and the bottom of the screen on your right. You use your thumbs and pinkies to hold the phone and part of your palm would be up against the bottom speaker on your right hand the your left palm would be resting on the top of the phone nearest the ear
 peace. Then you're working with the width of the phone to position your six fingers to type the dots. Dot 1 would be near the mute switch and going across would be dots 2 and 3. And you'll do the same with your right hand coming from the bottom of the phone 
 which will make dots 4,5,6. This method takes a little practice to get used to because it is definitely different from what you're used to. However it's the fastest for me and definitely more comfortable. You might find that table top mode can help you get
 used to the concept of typing Braille on a touch screen and then graduate to screen away mode like I did. It all comes much easier once you get used to the concept of what you're doing. But if you give it a fair amount of time, you'll be typing like a pro
 in no time. It took me about a month because I tried it and didn't like it at first. But when I decided I was going to learn it, I picked it up in about 15 minutes.


On 11/5/2022 1:14 PM, Mohammad Fazil wrote:


Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own clarification:
Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone rather than its  length with earpiece upward?
/Thanks!



On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin 
 wrote:





Hi,


First, table top mode and away mode.


Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again,
 going from center to right.


Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the dots are on
 top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.


Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so
 you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.


I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.


Hope this helps answer your questions.


Chris





On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  wrote:




Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all the times?
and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen? 


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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

[Mohammad Fazil]

Thanks much! How can I activate Braille typing, please?
Thanks!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 11:54 AM, Gordon  wrote:


Table top mode is just like a perkins without the space bar in the middle. So 
dot 3 will be closest to the ear peace speaker and dot 6 will be closest to the 
bottom of the screen where the charger goes. But your finger positioning will 
be the same as it would be with a Perkins. The phone will either sit on your 
lap or a surface in front of you. Screen away mode is better for holding the 
phone in your hands. In screen away mode the back of the phone is facing your 
chest long ways where the ear peace is on the left and the bottom of the screen 
on your right. You use your thumbs and pinkies to hold the phone and part of 
your palm would be up against the bottom speaker on your right hand the your 
left palm would be resting on the top of the phone nearest the ear peace. Then 
you're working with the width of the phone to position your six fingers to type 
the dots. Dot 1 would be near the mute switch and going across would be dots 2 
and 3. And you'll do the same with your right hand coming from the bottom of 
the phone  which will make dots 4,5,6. This method takes a little practice to 
get used to because it is definitely different from what you're used to. 
However it's the fastest for me and definitely more comfortable. You might find 
that table top mode can help you get used to the concept of typing Braille on a 
touch screen and then graduate to screen away mode like I did. It all comes 
much easier once you get used to the concept of what you're doing. But if you 
give it a fair amount of time, you'll be typing like a pro in no time. It took 
me about a month because I tried it and didn't like it at first. But when I 
decided I was going to learn it, I picked it up in about 15 minutes.

On 11/5/2022 1:14 PM, Mohammad Fazil wrote:
Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own clarification:
Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone rather than 
its  length with earpiece upward?
/Thanks!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin 
 wrote:

Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are 
like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, 
going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 
6, again, going from center to right.

Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the 
charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On 
the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the 
dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have 
dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.

Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is 
switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your 
phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe 
down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with 
your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle 
gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.

I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen 
Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to 
Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use 
with the BSI keyboard.

Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
mailto:liel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes 
they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all 
the times?
and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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0509549090
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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

[Mohammad Fazil]

You have done a fantastic job by typing it all in braille! I am impressed! and 
proud of you!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 9:23 AM, ⁨Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון⁩ 
<⁨liel...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:

Hi Chriss, thanks for your answers.
Now I understand why it's happns to me.
I am using BSI when I am typing this e-mail.
It take time to get use to it, but both things helped me, Screen away mode and 
orientation  locked.
now all dots are positioned in the meedle and it comfortable to me to type.
I am typing on Braille Display a lot, and after I g et used to it I like it.
I getting practiss on that and I improove my typing with BSI.
It's a grate feature.

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‫ב-5 בנוב׳ 2022, בשעה 17:53, ‏‏Chris Chaffin ‏ כתב/ה:‬


Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are 
like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, 
going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 
6, again, going from center to right.

Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the 
charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On 
the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the 
dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have 
dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.

Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is 
switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your 
phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe 
down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with 
your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle 
gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.

I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen 
Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to 
Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use 
with the BSI keyboard.

Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
wrote:

Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes 
they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all 
the times?
and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

[Gordon]

Table top mode is just like a perkins without the space bar in the 
middle. So dot 3 will be closest to the ear peace speaker and dot 6 will 
be closest to the bottom of the screen where the charger goes. But your 
finger positioning will be the same as it would be with a Perkins. The 
phone will either sit on your lap or a surface in front of you. Screen 
away mode is better for holding the phone in your hands. In screen away 
mode the back of the phone is facing your chest long ways where the ear 
peace is on the left and the bottom of the screen on your right. You use 
your thumbs and pinkies to hold the phone and part of your palm would be 
up against the bottom speaker on your right hand the your left palm 
would be resting on the top of the phone nearest the ear peace. Then 
you're working with the width of the phone to position your six fingers 
to type the dots. Dot 1 would be near the mute switch and going across 
would be dots 2 and 3. And you'll do the same with your right hand 
coming from the bottom of the phone  which will make dots 4,5,6. This 
method takes a little practice to get used to because it is definitely 
different from what you're used to. However it's the fastest for me and 
definitely more comfortable. You might find that table top mode can help 
you get used to the concept of typing Braille on a touch screen and then 
graduate to screen away mode like I did. It all comes much easier once 
you get used to the concept of what you're doing. But if you give it a 
fair amount of time, you'll be typing like a pro in no time. It took me 
about a month because I tried it and didn't like it at first. But when I 
decided I was going to learn it, I picked it up in about 15 minutes.


On 11/5/2022 1:14 PM, Mohammad Fazil wrote:
Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own 
clarification:
Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone 
rather than its  length with earpiece upward?

/Thanks!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin  
wrote:


Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the 
dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would 
have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right 
side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to right.


Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you 
with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in 
two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going 
from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column. 
And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from 
top to bottom.


Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it 
is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the 
position of your phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want 
to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three 
finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch 
side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation 
locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture 
to unlock the orientation.


I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille 
Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, 
then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of 
the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.


Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
 wrote:


Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and 
sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my 
fingers all the times?

and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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RE: Braille Screen Input question's

[Richard Turner]

Tabletop mode is designed to lay the phone on its back flat on a table and 
write as if you were writing on a Perkins Brailer.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohammad 
Fazil
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2022 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille Screen Input question's

 

Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own clarification: 

Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone rather than 
its  length with earpiece upward? 

/Thanks!





On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

 

First, table top mode and away mode.

 

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are 
like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, 
going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 
6, again, going from center to right.

 

Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the 
charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On 
the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the 
dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have 
dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.

 

Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is 
switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your 
phone.

there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.

So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe 
down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with 
your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle 
gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.

 

I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen 
Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to 
Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use 
with the BSI keyboard.

 

Hope this helps answer your questions.

 

Chris

 





On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון mailto:liel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that. 

What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?

And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes 
they in the meedle on the screen.

Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all 
the times?

and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen? 

מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.

0509549090

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https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/

 

 

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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

[Mohammad Fazil]

Thanks much for such a nice explanation! Let me ask for my own clarification:
Is table top mode the position where I hold the width of the phone rather than 
its  length with earpiece upward?
/Thanks!

On Nov 5, 2022, at 8:52 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:

Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are 
like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, 
going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 
6, again, going from center to right.

Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the 
charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On 
the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the 
dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have 
dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.

Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is 
switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your 
phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe 
down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with 
your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle 
gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.

I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen 
Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to 
Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use 
with the BSI keyboard.

Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
mailto:liel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes 
they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all 
the times?
and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

[Joshua Hendrickson]

My Hable One bluetooth keyboard has braille buttons that work pretty
much like braille screenaway mode.  I can type very quickly when
needing to enter in a text message.  It is great.

On 11/5/22, Gordon  wrote:
> I use the screen away method and can type as fast as any sighted person.
> I was really bumbed out when the flick type keyboard went away. However
> when I spent a couple of days with BSI, I didn't miss it at all. I can
> type faster with BSI than I could with flick type. And it only requires
> a little time of practice to learn how to do it.
>
> On 11/5/2022 11:23 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון wrote:
>> Hi Chriss, thanks for your answers.
>> Now I understand why it's happns to me.
>> I am using BSI when I am typing this e-mail.
>> It take time to get use to it, but both things helped me, Screen away
>> mode and orientation  locked.
>> now all dots are positioned in the meedle and it comfortable to me to
>> type.
>> I am typing on Braille Display a lot, and after I g et used to it I
>> like it.
>> I getting practiss on that and I improove my typing with BSI.
>> It's a grate feature.
>>
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>>> ‫ב-5 בנוב׳ 2022, בשעה 17:53, ‏‏Chris Chaffin
>>> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> First, table top mode and away mode.
>>>
>>> Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the
>>> dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would
>>> have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right
>>> side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to
>>> right.
>>>
>>> Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you
>>> with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in
>>> two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going
>>> from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column.
>>> And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from
>>> top to bottom.
>>>
>>> Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it
>>> is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the
>>> position of your phone.
>>> there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want
>>> to do.
>>> So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three
>>> finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch
>>> side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation
>>> locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture
>>> to unlock the orientation.
>>>
>>> I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille
>>> Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands,
>>> then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of
>>> the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps answer your questions.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
 On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
  wrote:

  Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
 What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
 And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and
 sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.
 Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my
 fingers all the times?
 and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

[Gordon]

I use the screen away method and can type as fast as any sighted person. 
I was really bumbed out when the flick type keyboard went away. However 
when I spent a couple of days with BSI, I didn't miss it at all. I can 
type faster with BSI than I could with flick type. And it only requires 
a little time of practice to learn how to do it.


On 11/5/2022 11:23 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון wrote:

Hi Chriss, thanks for your answers.
Now I understand why it's happns to me.
I am using BSI when I am typing this e-mail.
It take time to get use to it, but both things helped me, Screen away 
mode and orientation  locked.
now all dots are positioned in the meedle and it comfortable to me to 
type.
I am typing on Braille Display a lot, and after I g et used to it I 
like it.

I getting practiss on that and I improove my typing with BSI.
It's a grate feature.

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‫ב-5 בנוב׳ 2022, בשעה 17:53, ‏‏Chris Chaffin 
‏ כתב/ה:‬



Hi,

First, table top mode and away mode.

Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the 
dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would 
have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right 
side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to right.


Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you 
with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in 
two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going 
from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column. 
And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from 
top to bottom.


Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it 
is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the 
position of your phone.
there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want 
to do.
So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three 
finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch 
side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation 
locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture 
to unlock the orientation.


I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille 
Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, 
then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of 
the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.


Hope this helps answer your questions.

Chris


On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
 wrote:


 Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and 
sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my 
fingers all the times?

and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen?

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RE: Recommendations for programme to read morep3 books?

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi, I have the Victor stream 1st gen and when I want to back up a few seconds 
or 5 or 10 etc., I hold down the bottom left bar which is to the left of the 
start stop bar and do the same with the bar to the right of the start stop bar. 
As you know, you can adjust the timing by 1 minute, 5 minute or so. Andy and 
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It must work very differently for Mp3 than Faisy, , because much smaller 
movements work with Daisy. 

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Subject: Recommendations for programme to read mp3 books?

Hi all,
Currently using Voice Dream Reader to read mp3 books.
Problem is if you miss something in a book it is hard to move back a small 
amount rather than a percentage.
Other apps will let you move in 30 second increments from the control centre.
With VDR you can only move next track.
The slider control in notification centre doesn't seem to work.
If I've missed anything or if my skills need improving please let me know.
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Hi Chriss, thanks for your answers.Now I understand why it's happns to me.I am using BSI when I am typing this e-mail.It take time to get use to it, but both things helped me, Screen away mode and orientation  locked.now all dots are positioned in the meedle and it comfortable to me to type.I am typing on Braille Display a lot, and after I g et used to it I like it.I getting practiss on that and I improove my typing with BSI.It's a grate feature.מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.0509549090לדף העסקי שלי:https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ ‫ב-5 בנוב׳ 2022, בשעה 17:53, ‏‏Chris Chaffin ‏ כתב/ה:‬Hi,First, table top mode and away mode.Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to right.Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your phone.there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.Hope this helps answer your questions.ChrisOn Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  wrote:Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all the times?and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen? מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.0509549090לדף העסקי שלי:https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ 



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Re: Braille Screen Input question's

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi,First, table top mode and away mode.Table Top mode is where you lay the phone flat on a surface and the dots are like a perkins brailler.  So on the left side, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from center to left. And on the right side, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from center to right.Away Mode, is where you hold the phone with the screen away from you with the charging port on the right.  With this mode, the dots are in two columns.  On the left, you would have dots 1, 2, and 3, going from top to bottom, so the dots are on top of each other in a column. And on the right, you would have dots 4, 5, and 6, again, going from top to bottom.Now the reason the dots are changing positions on you is because it is switching from table top mode and away mode depending on the position of your phone.there is a gesture where you can lock it in whichever mode you want to do.So put it in the mode you want; table top or away, then do a three finger swipe down on the screen.  This would be from your mute switch side to the side with your side button.  It should say, orientation locked.  This is a toggle gesture, so you would do the same gesture to unlock the orientation.I would recommend taking a look at the list of gestures for Braille Screen Input.  Go to settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Commands, then swipe to Braille Screen Input, and in there you will find all of the gestures to use with the BSI keyboard.Hope this helps answer your questions.ChrisOn Nov 5, 2022, at 5:05 AM, Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  wrote:Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes they in the meedle on the screen.Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all the times?and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen? מילים באהבה שירותי תמלול.0509549090לדף העסקי שלי:https://www.facebook.com/transcribes500/ 



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Re: Login to Envision With Apple ID?

[Donna Casteen]

I thought that the Envision app was now free for everyone., Is this not true?Donna 







Unfortunately can't help you there except to suggest that if you have communicated with them to ask them.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Login to Envision With Apple ID?


 
where should I  go to find my active subscription that could show Envision that I have a valid subscription?


where should I go to get the screen shot of my login id, please?


Thanks/!






On Nov 4, 2022, at 5:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 


You take a screenshot by pressing the side button and volume  up button at the same time.


When you do you hear a camera like sound and then at the bottom left of the screen is a thumbnail image of the screenshot, but you can simply press the buttons and after a short delay Voiceover will say "Screenshot, button",
 once you hear this double tap anywhere.


After you doble tap most likely Voiceover will say "Done", this is the top left button on the screen, if you flick right you get the following in this order:


Undo, dimmed (this let's you undo any changes you may make to the screenshot like cropping it and so on, most likely not something you would or could do)


Redo, dimmed (same sort of thing, I wouldn't worry about it)


Markup


Delete


Share (this is the one you most likely would want, once you tap it your regular share sheet opens and you can email it to yourself or somebody else, text it, save it and all that)


Now you get stuff which I don't know what exactly it is for, I assume it is where you may drag to crop the image:


Top left corner handle, flick right and you hear "Screenshot 1 of 1, flick again and you get top edge hHandle, then top right corner handle, left edge handle, right edge handle, bottom left corner handle, bottom right
 corner handle, bottom edge handle.


Lastly you get Crop and Scale or Select Text and the last item is Detect Text which you actually could use and which would recognize any text in the screenshot.


 


If you don't do anything after taking the screenshot, e.g. if you don't double tap when Voiceover says "Screenshot, button" then it goes away after a few seconds, but your screenshot will automatically be saved to your
 camera roll and if you open Photos you can find a "screenshot" category under "Media Types" and you can find your screenshot there and you can of course share it from there just like any picture.


 


 


 




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
 Behalf Of Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Login to Envision With Apple ID?




 


Hi, Sieghard! 



I wrote to Envision about my login issue and they sent the following email and ask me to submit a couple of screen shots. could you, please, tell me where should I go for those screen shots? Here is there email:




 




"Hi Muhammad!



 




Thank you for reaching out! I wasn't able to find an account under this email or your name. Can you send me a screenshot of your Apple ID from your phone and a screenshot of the subscription? I will have our development team try to find
 the disconnect and work on getting this fixed.




 




Thanks!




 




EnVision Support"












On Nov 2, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



 




Not sure why this doesn't work. Anyways, if you bought a lifetime subscription you should probably have login credentials and I would just use them.




 




 






From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
 Behalf Of Mohammad Fazil
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2022 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Login to Envision With Apple ID?






 




Hi, Sieghard. When I use Apple ID, Voiceover gives me ‘Continue Button’. When I double-tap it, this button does not accept  my gesture. Am I doing something wrong?






Thanks! On Nov 1, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







 






Yes, you have to provide your Apple Id password and yes, it is save. Actually it is probably safer because you can choose for Apple to reveal your actual email address or to hide it in which case any emails still get
 forwarded to you. Keep in mind that if you had already created an account/separate login with Envision I would use that and if you forgot the password you can probably request a password reset and change it. I sometimes use my Apple Id to log in if that option
 is given and if I hadn't previously set up login credentials. There is a chance if your lifetime subscription is connected to a separate login you created at the time it may not show up if you log in using your Apple Id.






 








From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
 Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 10:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Login to Envision With Apple ID?

Braille Screen Input question's

[Lielle Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Hi friends, I had started to use BSI and have questions about that.
What the difrences between both modes Table mode and Screen away modes?
And sometimes the dots changes  both of 2 eadges on the screen and sometimes 
they in the meedle on the screen.
Why it's happends? and how can I write in BSI without to moove my fingers all 
the times?
and in eddition why the dots changes position on the screen? 

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