RE: Annoying Siri behavior

[M. Taylor]

Hello Rick, Richard, et al,

Rick, I experience the exact same random Siri unlock prompt, from time-to-time, 
just as you described.  I probably encounter the prompt 3 or 4 times a week, at 
most when asking Siri to call a contact.

While I do find it curious, as I have witnessed non-Voice Over users encounter 
the same prompt on various Face ID enabled devices running the latest 
commercial release of OS 16, I, for the most part, just unlock the device and 
go on.

Just wanted you to know that you are not alone on this one.  

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rick 
Alfaro
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying Siri behavior

Thanks Richard. What makes this so difficult to pinpoint is that sometimes it 
works just fine so it is hit or miss to reliably reproduce it but it happens 
often enough to be aggravating. I’ll check the siri settings again but I’m 
pretty sure it’s enabled while locked.



From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 12:52 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying Siri behavior

My phone is locked.
I just asked Siri to call NFB Newsline and it did with no fuss.

I'm not sure what setting would impact this behavior unless it is Allow Siri 
when locked.  If that is off, that would explain it I think.
If that is on, then try toggling it off and then on again.
Otherwise, I would be calling Apple 877-204-3930




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:47 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Annoying Siri behavior

Hello.

I love siri for what it can do but I find the following behavior to be 
extremely annoying and am wondering if there is a solution for it.

I have Face ID enabled but Siri insists on saying I have to unlock my phone 
first before executing simple commands like just asking her to call or message 
someone which seems to be totally unnecessary.  

For a while there I tried simply disabling the pass code and Face ID but don’t 
like the idea of having my phone unprotected.

Has anyone come up with a way around this, or is this a known bug? 
Very annoying.


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RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[M. Taylor]

Got it, Alan.  

Thank you for the spelling correction.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hi Mark, 

I don't know if you are dictating or simply misspelling but it is Morse code 
not Morris code. Samuel Morse was one of its developers and its namesake. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2023, at 11:13 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Of course, you are correct, my friend.
> 
> Now that I think about it, I think my biggest fear about becoming a ham was 
> having to learn Morris code.  In all of the television shows and movies, etc. 
> I've seen, Morris seems so complicated and mysterious.  
> 
> As a very kind list member informed me, off-list, earlier today, one does not 
> need to learn Morris, any longer in order to be a ham.
> 
> Still, I think I'd like to try my hand at learning Morris code.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 10:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> And if you fail then you try again, I am sure failing this test will not mean 
>  you can't try again. 
> Life is too short to be afaraid of failure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You know, there are not a great many things on my bucket list but one of the 
> items is becoming a ham.
> 
> I have wanted to become a ham for over 30 years but have not done so, to be 
> honest, because of my fear of failing the licensing tests.
> 
> Now I don't know much about it but back in the 80s I had a couple of friends 
> who wanted to get their licenses but failed to do so.
> 
> I don't want to go off topic, on this, but if anyone of you hams would like 
> to send me the steps on how to go about getting a license and an blind and/or 
> low vision accessible way to go about it, send me a reply, off-list, as I 
> would greatly appreciate it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
> suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
> talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
> been able to use an app called echolink. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
> waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.
> 
> As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
> airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.
> 
> I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie Talkie 
> app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.
> 
> It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
> people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
> when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, coupled 
> with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, at least, 
> it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my ear and I 
> felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.
> 
> Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
> Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was not 
> a good one.
> 
> Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, 
> this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.
> 
> She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
> reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I 
> know that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.
> 
> So, the question:
> 
> Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
> iPhone?  
> 
> When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which 
> one is best for VoiceOver users.
> 
> Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app on 
> the watch but, of course, works on the phone.
> 
> I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app 
> feature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario, 
> 

Google meet on an iPad?

[Mary Otten]

I have never used Google meet and I really don’t want to. But I’m in a small 
group that is trying to contact some Ukrainians that we are trying to sponsor 
to come here. They’re going to try zoom first. But if that doesn’t go through, 
it’s Google meet. Is Google meet accessible on an iPad? Has anyone used it?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Annoying Siri behavior

[Rick Alfaro]

Thanks Richard. What makes this so difficult to pinpoint is that sometimes it 
works just fine so it is hit or miss to reliably reproduce it but it happens 
often enough to be aggravating. I’ll check the siri settings again but I’m 
pretty sure it’s enabled while locked.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Annoying Siri behavior
 
My phone is locked.
I just asked Siri to call NFB Newsline and it did with no fuss.
 
I'm not sure what setting would impact this behavior unless it is Allow Siri 
when locked.  If that is off, that would explain it I think.
If that is on, then try toggling it off and then on again.
Otherwise, I would be calling Apple 877-204-3930
 
 
 
 
Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rick 
Alfaro
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Annoying Siri behavior
 
Hello.
 
I love siri for what it can do but I find the following behavior to be 
extremely annoying and am wondering if there is a solution for it.
 
I have Face ID enabled but Siri insists on saying I have to unlock my phone 
first before executing simple commands like just asking her to call or message 
someone which seems to be totally unnecessary.  
 
For a while there I tried simply disabling the pass code and Face ID but don’t 
like the idea of having my phone unprotected.
 
Has anyone come up with a way around this, or is this a known bug? 
Very annoying.
 
 
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RE: Annoying Siri behavior

[Richard Turner]

My phone is locked.

I just asked Siri to call NFB Newsline and it did with no fuss.

 

I'm not sure what setting would impact this behavior unless it is Allow Siri 
when locked.  If that is off, that would explain it I think.

If that is on, then try toggling it off and then on again.

Otherwise, I would be calling Apple 877-204-3930

 

 

 

 

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rick 
Alfaro
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Annoying Siri behavior

 

Hello.

 

I love siri for what it can do but I find the following behavior to be 
extremely annoying and am wondering if there is a solution for it.

 

I have Face ID enabled but Siri insists on saying I have to unlock my phone 
first before executing simple commands like just asking her to call or message 
someone which seems to be totally unnecessary.  

 

For a while there I tried simply disabling the pass code and Face ID but don’t 
like the idea of having my phone unprotected.

 

Has anyone come up with a way around this, or is this a known bug? 
Very annoying.

 

 

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Annoying Siri behavior

[Rick Alfaro]

Hello.
 
I love siri for what it can do but I find the following behavior to be
extremely annoying and am wondering if there is a solution for it.
 
I have Face ID enabled but Siri insists on saying I have to unlock my phone
first before executing simple commands like just asking her to call or
message someone which seems to be totally unnecessary.  
 
For a while there I tried simply disabling the pass code and Face ID but
don't like the idea of having my phone unprotected.
 
Has anyone come up with a way around this, or is this a known bug? 
Very annoying.
 
 

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Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Mark, 

I don't know if you are dictating or simply misspelling but it is Morse code 
not Morris code. Samuel Morse was one of its developers and its namesake. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2023, at 11:13 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Of course, you are correct, my friend.
> 
> Now that I think about it, I think my biggest fear about becoming a ham was 
> having to learn Morris code.  In all of the television shows and movies, etc. 
> I've seen, Morris seems so complicated and mysterious.  
> 
> As a very kind list member informed me, off-list, earlier today, one does not 
> need to learn Morris, any longer in order to be a ham.
> 
> Still, I think I'd like to try my hand at learning Morris code.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 10:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> And if you fail then you try again, I am sure failing this test will not mean 
>  you can't try again. 
> Life is too short to be afaraid of failure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You know, there are not a great many things on my bucket list but one of the 
> items is becoming a ham.
> 
> I have wanted to become a ham for over 30 years but have not done so, to be 
> honest, because of my fear of failing the licensing tests.
> 
> Now I don't know much about it but back in the 80s I had a couple of friends 
> who wanted to get their licenses but failed to do so.
> 
> I don't want to go off topic, on this, but if anyone of you hams would like 
> to send me the steps on how to go about getting a license and an blind and/or 
> low vision accessible way to go about it, send me a reply, off-list, as I 
> would greatly appreciate it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
> suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
> talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
> been able to use an app called echolink. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
> waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.
> 
> As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
> airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.
> 
> I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie Talkie 
> app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.
> 
> It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
> people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
> when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, coupled 
> with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, at least, 
> it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my ear and I 
> felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.
> 
> Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
> Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was not 
> a good one.
> 
> Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, 
> this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.
> 
> She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
> reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I 
> know that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.
> 
> So, the question:
> 
> Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
> iPhone?  
> 
> When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which 
> one is best for VoiceOver users.
> 
> Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app on 
> the watch but, of course, works on the phone.
> 
> I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app 
> feature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario, 
> between only 2 people.
> 
> Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in the 
> airport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[Michael McKay]

Hi! Robert:

I use iOS myself, and it’s the iPhone and on the iPhone I carry what is called 
the Zillow app which is a type of walkie-talkie app. Hope that helps. Have a 
great weekend, and all the best.

Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2023, at 11:37, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I was a little curious and of course, there is a ton of options out there, 
> many of which are mostly visually based to start with from my brief search.
> 
> However, The National Association for Amateur Radio has some good information.
> 
> Here is a link to the page with mp3 files for all the letters, numbers 0-9 
> and some punctuation, etc.
> 
> http://www.arrl.org/code-characters
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
> Doc Wright
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 4:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Yeah, you just have to have a collection of lame jokes to Ham it up.
> Is there a tutorial for learning morse code. I think it is interesting.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 10:13 PM
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> 
> Of course, you are correct, my friend.
> 
> Now that I think about it, I think my biggest fear about becoming a ham was 
> having to learn Morris code.  In all of the television shows and movies, 
> etc. I've seen, Morris seems so complicated and mysterious.
> 
> As a very kind list member informed me, off-list, earlier today, one does 
> not need to learn Morris, any longer in order to be a ham.
> 
> Still, I think I'd like to try my hand at learning Morris code.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 10:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> And if you fail then you try again, I am sure failing this test will not 
> mean  you can't try again.
> Life is too short to be afaraid of failure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You know, there are not a great many things on my bucket list but one of the 
> items is becoming a ham.
> 
> I have wanted to become a ham for over 30 years but have not done so, to be 
> honest, because of my fear of failing the licensing tests.
> 
> Now I don't know much about it but back in the 80s I had a couple of friends 
> who wanted to get their licenses but failed to do so.
> 
> I don't want to go off topic, on this, but if anyone of you hams would like 
> to send me the steps on how to go about getting a license and an blind 
> and/or low vision accessible way to go about it, send me a reply, off-list, 
> as I would greatly appreciate it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
> suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
> talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
> been able to use an app called echolink.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
> waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.
> 
> As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
> airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.
> 
> I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie 
> Talkie app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.
> 
> It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
> people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
> when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, 
> coupled with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, 
> at least, it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my 
> ear and I felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.
> 
> Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
> Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie 

RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[Richard Turner]

I was a little curious and of course, there is a ton of options out there, many 
of which are mostly visually based to start with from my brief search.

However, The National Association for Amateur Radio has some good information.

Here is a link to the page with mp3 files for all the letters, numbers 0-9 and 
some punctuation, etc.

http://www.arrl.org/code-characters

HTH,

Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Yeah, you just have to have a collection of lame jokes to Ham it up.
Is there a tutorial for learning morse code. I think it is interesting.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS


Of course, you are correct, my friend.

Now that I think about it, I think my biggest fear about becoming a ham was 
having to learn Morris code.  In all of the television shows and movies, 
etc. I've seen, Morris seems so complicated and mysterious.

As a very kind list member informed me, off-list, earlier today, one does 
not need to learn Morris, any longer in order to be a ham.

Still, I think I'd like to try my hand at learning Morris code.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

And if you fail then you try again, I am sure failing this test will not 
mean  you can't try again.
Life is too short to be afaraid of failure.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hi,

You know, there are not a great many things on my bucket list but one of the 
items is becoming a ham.

I have wanted to become a ham for over 30 years but have not done so, to be 
honest, because of my fear of failing the licensing tests.

Now I don't know much about it but back in the 80s I had a couple of friends 
who wanted to get their licenses but failed to do so.

I don't want to go off topic, on this, but if anyone of you hams would like 
to send me the steps on how to go about getting a license and an blind 
and/or low vision accessible way to go about it, send me a reply, off-list, 
as I would greatly appreciate it.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
been able to use an app called echolink.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hello Everyone,

Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.

As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.

I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie 
Talkie app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.

It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, 
coupled with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, 
at least, it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my 
ear and I felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.

Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was 
not a good one.

Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, 
this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.

She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I 
know that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.

So, the question:

Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
iPhone?

When I search the app store I see so many but 

Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[Robert Doc Wright]

Yeah, you just have to have a collection of lame jokes to Ham it up.
Is there a tutorial for learning morse code. I think it is interesting.
- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS


Of course, you are correct, my friend.

Now that I think about it, I think my biggest fear about becoming a ham was 
having to learn Morris code.  In all of the television shows and movies, 
etc. I've seen, Morris seems so complicated and mysterious.


As a very kind list member informed me, off-list, earlier today, one does 
not need to learn Morris, any longer in order to be a ham.


Still, I think I'd like to try my hand at learning Morris code.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

And if you fail then you try again, I am sure failing this test will not 
mean  you can't try again.

Life is too short to be afaraid of failure.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hi,

You know, there are not a great many things on my bucket list but one of the 
items is becoming a ham.


I have wanted to become a ham for over 30 years but have not done so, to be 
honest, because of my fear of failing the licensing tests.


Now I don't know much about it but back in the 80s I had a couple of friends 
who wanted to get their licenses but failed to do so.


I don't want to go off topic, on this, but if anyone of you hams would like 
to send me the steps on how to go about getting a license and an blind 
and/or low vision accessible way to go about it, send me a reply, off-list, 
as I would greatly appreciate it.


Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net

Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
been able to use an app called echolink.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hello Everyone,

Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.


As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.


I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie 
Talkie app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.


It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, 
coupled with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, 
at least, it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my 
ear and I felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.


Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was 
not a good one.


Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, 
this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.


She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I 
know that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.


So, the question:

Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
iPhone?


When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which 
one is best for VoiceOver users.


Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app 
on the watch but, of course, works on the phone.


I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app 
feature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario, 
between only 2 people.


Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in the 
airport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.


All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Kelly,



Asus is known to make very good routers with a heavy emphasis on gaming. I had 
a high-end Asus router quite a few years ago at my store and while it was good, 
at the time I did not like the interface and ended up replacing it with a 
Netgear Nighthawk, once again, one of their top models at the time. My next and 
current system at home is a Netgear Orbi mesh system with 1 satellite and at my 
store it is a Netgear Orbi Pro which is the more business oriented version. 
Both of these are I think now about 5 years old and they have performed 
flawlessly, they broadcast both on the 2.4 Ghz and 5 GHz frequency, but while I 
have often read about issues where people had problems with older devices and 
were advised to turn of the 5 GHz band on their router, this has never been an 
issue for me. I am most likely waiting a while longer before I upgrade again by 
which time Wi-Fi 7 will probably be the current standard, but even now I would 
probably look for a tri-band Wi-Fi 6E capable router which supports the new 6 
GHz band which is not the case with Wi-Fi 6. Once again, maybe not an issue now 
and maybe not ever for some people, but often when I do buy a device like a 
router, I will get the latest so it will last for a long time. I usually also 
read reviews when I make a decision in technology, but I think it's important 
to read reviews from at least 3 or 4 reputable sources and of course to also 
pay attention what the focus of the product is, e.g. gaming, home use, business 
use etc. Then there is of course the "wallet concern" since it is not difficult 
to spend almost as much on a router as on a brandnew iPhone, the latest Netgear 
Orbi mesh system with 1 satellite, for example, will set you back $1,099 US and 
about $1,500 Canadian. If anybody is interested to read about it, here is a 
link:


Orbi™ 960 Series Quad-Band WiFi 6E Mesh System, 10.8Gbps, 10 Gig 
Port



The fact is that things are different now than 20 years ago when you bought a 
router and never even worried much about upgrading it for a very l ong time, 
nowadays companies like Asus, Netgear, TP Link, Ubiquiti and others release new 
routers more or less each year with faster processors and better specs. But 
just as it really is not necessary to upgrade one's iPhone each year any more, 
it is also not necessary to get caught up in this race to always have something 
better; I still feel a router should be something you mostly install and forget 
and beyond making sure it is updated regularly (typically an automatic process 
with most good routers, you don't need to pay much attention to it.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark



I bought a router a few weeks ago.  I bought my old router in 2015 when I 
changed Internet services.  It actually was free with the modem I purchased.  
In the last year, every few days, the router would stop working and need to be 
reset.  Earlier this year, my ISP increased my speed to 250 MBPS a second and 
my router was not coming close to this speed.  I searched online and learned 
the problem was very likely the router and not the modem.  I searched on Google 
for the best router and chose the top ranked router from PC Magazine.  This was 
the Asus Rt-AX86U Pro. I found my local Micro Center retailer had some in stock 
and traveled over there.  I printed out the specification sheet from the Micro 
Center website and handed it to the sales nerd in the router area in a brick 
and mortar retail location the size of a grocery store.  None of my routers 
were on the shelves.  When he looked at my paper, he exclaimed “This is a good 
router!” the $269 router was so desirable by criminal shoplifters that it was 
in the back of the store in a secure storage area.  He returned a few minutes 
later and brought the “good router” and me to a cashier where I bought the item.



The signal is strong. The router is on the top floor of a Chicago bungalow and 
the signal is strong and reliable in the basement,

backyard, and garage.   I am glad to have paid more money for a solid

and strong signal and performing product.  Yes, it can be the center of a mesh 
network and guest channels are possible.  Asus has an app and Web based router 
Interface that I used to set it up successfully, including choosing a network 
name and password. I would strongly recommend this router for a multi person 
household.



Kelly









On 7/10/23, Carolyn Arnold 
<2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Same here, Mark.

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>