Re: Possible used for AirTags

[Barbara Stahl]

OK thanks everyone

> On Feb 1, 2024, at 2:34 PM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> 
> An Air Tag will only work within 30 feet or so. If you get a GPS signal, I 
> think the best thing to do is use an app like Blind Square, Voice Vista, or 
> Ariadne. This will guide you close enough to the door and your AirTag could 
> get you the rest of the way. You could put the AirTag on the inside of the 
> door so nobody steals it.
> The Air Tag uses a kind of getting warmer feature and will tell you how far 
> away you are ifthat ff
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 1, 2024, at 1:37 PM, Barbara Stahl  
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>> Can someone tell me, what is the range for an air tag?  Could I use it to 
>> find my apartment door in an apartment complex with multiple buildings?  
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Re: Hable 1

[Matthew Bullis]

I wouldn't call it a Perkins style keyboard, because the keys slant. The left long button is backspace and the right long button is space.MatthewOn Feb 1, 2024, at 12:17 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:Hi as some one who used the hable 1 a few months ago I would say that yes you have to know braille to use it as far as typing on it. It is a input keyboard only there is no braille display on it and there is no speech output unless you count the speech that comes out from your I phone or I pad that you are using it on. Youhold it between your 2 hands and your fingers rest on the perkins styal keyboard the keys press up word there are 3 buttons down on the boddem of the keyboard the round button is backspace and the one on the right is deleate. And the middle is space. Hth. From Mich.   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: February 1, 2024 2:13 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Hable 1 Hi, I just received an email from A T Guys and I am curious about the information on their website about the Hable 1. They have the following in the title: Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology ExpertsThen  in the description they say this:Simplified and Fast Typing: Using Hable One your typing speed enhancement increases considerably due to the great design streamlines, vastly improving your previous keyboard experience. You don’t need to know Braille to use it, making it a perfect choice among blind people products. So, it’s a braille keyboard but you don’t need to know braille to use it? Just wondering how this works. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB565622F5DCED52F357BF65E7C7432%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: Possible used for AirTags

[Thom Spittle]

An Air Tag will only work within 30 feet or so. If you get a GPS signal, I 
think the best thing to do is use an app like Blind Square, Voice Vista, or 
Ariadne. This will guide you close enough to the door and your AirTag could get 
you the rest of the way. You could put the AirTag on the inside of the door so 
nobody steals it.
The Air Tag uses a kind of getting warmer feature and will tell you how far 
away you are ifthat ff
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2024, at 1:37 PM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me, what is the range for an air tag?  Could I use it to 
> find my apartment door in an apartment complex with multiple buildings?  
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RE: Hable 1

[michv]

Hi as some one who used the hable 1 a few months ago I would say that yes you 
have to know braille to use it as far as typing on it. It is a input keyboard 
only there is no braille display on it and there is no speech output unless you 
count the speech that comes out from your I phone or I pad that you are using 
it on. Youhold it between your 2 hands and your fingers rest on the perkins 
styal keyboard the keys press up word there are 3 buttons down on the boddem of 
the keyboard the round button is backspace and the one on the right is deleate. 
And the middle is space. Hth. From Mich.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: February 1, 2024 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hable 1

 

Hi, I just received an email from A T Guys and I am curious about the 
information on their website about the Hable 1. They have the following in the 
title:

 

Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to 
Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts

Then  in the description they say this:

Simplified and Fast Typing: Using Hable One your typing speed enhancement 
increases considerably due to the great design streamlines, vastly improving 
your previous keyboard experience. You don’t need to know Braille to use it, 
making it a perfect choice among blind people products.

 

So, it’s a braille keyboard but you don’t need to know braille to use it? Just 
wondering how this works.

 

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Re: Hable 1

[Matthew Bullis]

Lol, your method of tex input is Braille, but if you don't know Braille, then you'll use the key combinations to get around on your phone. You can hold down letter p to pause music, hold down h for home, etc. I really enjoy mine, and I had bought the Orbit writer but didn't like it as much.MatthewOn Feb 1, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Hi, I just received an email from A T Guys and I am curious about the information on their website about the Hable 1. They have the following in the title:
 
Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts
Then  in the description they say this:
Simplified and Fast Typing: Using Hable One your typing speed enhancement increases considerably due to the great design streamlines, vastly improving your previous keyboard experience. You don’t need to know Braille to use it, making it
 a perfect choice among blind people products.
 
So, it’s a braille keyboard but you don’t need to know braille to use it? Just wondering how this works.
 






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RE: Possible used for AirTags

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Only if you can get to within 30 feet of it or so.
It's Bluetooth range and while it could be a little more than 30 feet, the 
beeping you can trigger is not very loud.

-Original Message-
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Stahl
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 10:37 AM
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Subject: Possible used for AirTags

Can someone tell me, what is the range for an air tag?  Could I use it to find 
my apartment door in an apartment complex with multiple buildings?  

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Hable 1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi, I just received an email from A T Guys and I am curious about the 
information on their website about the Hable 1. They have the following in the 
title:

Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to 
Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts
Then  in the description they say this:
Simplified and Fast Typing: Using Hable One your typing speed enhancement 
increases considerably due to the great design streamlines, vastly improving 
your previous keyboard experience. You don't need to know Braille to use it, 
making it a perfect choice among blind people products.

So, it's a braille keyboard but you don't need to know braille to use it? Just 
wondering how this works.

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RE: Possible used for AirTags

[Jessica Dail]

Hi,
I believe they only work, when in Bluetooth range, which is generally around 30 
feet.

Thanks,
Jessica Dail

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2024 1:37 PM
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Subject: Possible used for AirTags

Can someone tell me, what is the range for an air tag?  Could I use it to find 
my apartment door in an apartment complex with multiple buildings?  

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Possible used for AirTags

[Barbara Stahl]

Can someone tell me, what is the range for an air tag?  Could I use it to find 
my apartment door in an apartment complex with multiple buildings?  

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BeMyEyes groups?

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi,
Has anyone set up, successfully, a group in the bemyeyes app? I have set up 
two, one called NaviLens and the other Family, people, selected from my 
whatsapp connections, have joined, but, so far, whenever I choose to call one 
of the groups, I am told "no one has joined yet". So, hes anyone done better? 
If so, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks, Sandy  and Z 
Sent from The dark side of the moon

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Re: The next generation of Speech Central has been launched

[Ivan Icin]

Richard regarding the book import I think that it is easiest to do it on 
the desktop (Windows or Mac), save on some cloud drive (whatever you use) 
and import it in Speech Central.

Regarding the instructions on how to download from the Bookshare website, 
it would be like this:
1. Go to https://www.bookshare.org/cms/
2. If you are not logged in use the option to log in.
3. search for the book that you want from searchbar.
4. when the book appears select the ePub format (for more advanced use case 
you can set this as the default format so that you don't need to do this 
each time, but let's skip that for now)
5. press the Download button
6. the website will load the new simpler page and soon there should be a 
link "Available" (before it there should be an activity indicator). When 
you click download the app will download.

Assuming that you have put the file to some cloud drive and that you have 
that cloud app installed on your device, you can import from there 
regularly using the 'Import File' feature in Speech Central (or if you 
prefer you can use the system Files app and share to Speech Central from 
there, that is nearly the same interface).

On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 1:51:47 AM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:

> Thanks for the correction.  I understand you are prioritizing your paying, 
> sighted, customers, that makes perfect sense.
>
>  
>
> And how many people on this list are not VoiceOver users?  I suspect next 
> to none.
>
>  
>
> Your description in the app store does say free to VoiceOver users and 
> since this list is primarily VoiceOver users, I guess I didn’t see any 
> reason to get lost in the details.
>
>  
>
> Still waiting for those steps to get books into your app.
>
>  
>
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> Richard, USA
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> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to 
> get it.”
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> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
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> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
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> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Ivan 
> Icin
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2024 3:31 PM
> *To:* VIPhone 
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> *Subject:* Re: The next generation of Speech Central has been launched
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> Oh, just to note that you did succeed to misquote even in that short post 
> (this post comes with lot of smiles, so no hard feelings regarding that):
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> My app is not free, it is just free for VoiceOver users. It costs 10$ 
> otherwise. 97% of users of my app on Apple devices aren't VoiceOver users 
> and the same is for 89% of users on Android devices. So I just provide for 
> free the app that other people regularly pay as I have decided to do so.
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> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 12:08:28 AM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:
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> Thank you Ivan. 
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> I'm looking forward to trying your app out with a Bookshare book once it 
> is clear to me how to go about getting one into the app. 
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> Richard, USA
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> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to 
> get it.”
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> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
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> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
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> On Jan 31, 2024, at 2:59 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:
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> Richard,
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> I apologise for that word "misquoting". Maybe my impression from the old 
> time that you are biased wasn't correct or maybe something has changed, but 
> that is irrelevant now.
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> I am happy for myself to feel the trust in the words that you post. So 
> from my side feel completely free to share your honest opinion and you can 
> count on my full respect for it.
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> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 11:45:13 PM UTC+1 Mary Otten wrote:
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> Ivan,
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> Might it just be that the reason you had so few folks downloading stuff 
> from bookshare is that it was so difficult? Not straightforward at all? Not 
> at all like what we can get in Voice Dream reader or I believe also dolphin 
> easy reader, which I don’t personally use but have looked at. 
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> For myself, by far the greatest use I have on my phone is Bhaṭṭa. Yes, I 
> have imported E pubs and PDF files into Voice during reader, which is where 
> I read all that stuff. And it helps to have the share thing off of the 
> website where you’re getting the documents from. so if Bookshare doesn’t 
> have that, they should, and I certainly wouldn’t mind asking them to 
> implement it. However, it is disingenuous to suppose that your figures 
> wouldn’t be a heck of a lot different if you actually had a straightforward 
> means of importing things . Anything that adds unnecessary complexity to 
> the process of getting a document from where it is to where you want to 
> read it is a significant deterrent, especially when other much more 
> efficient alternatives are available. That’s just how it is.
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> directly from books