Re: putting an description on a photo

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Yes and slight variant isTry a two finger double tap and hold.That should open an edit box.Type the name and find the done or save button and double tap.On 28 Apr 2024, at 02:51, Chris Chaffin  wrote:To add a description to a photo:1, After double tapping the photo, swipe and choose the edit button.2, On the pop up menu, choose mark up.3, On the next pop up menu, swipe all the way to the end and choose the add button.4, Swipe and choose description.5, After typing your description, hit the done button.  Then you will have two more done buttons to hit, and then you should be back on your photo.Hope this has been helpful.ChrisOn Apr 27, 2024, at 5:44 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:Hi, how do you put a description on a photo?



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Re: Phone Going Quiet

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When voiceover speaks at the same time as any other audio,  audio ducking will turn the audio stream volume right down so that VoiceOver can be heardHarryOn 18 Apr 2024, at 02:52, portillo@gmail.com wrote:OK. I have heard of audio ducking but have no idea what it is or does. I wonder how it would have gotten turned on though. And, would it happen with anything I watch or listen to? Thanks for that idea. I’ll have to look into that some.  From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  Sent: Monday, April 15, 2024 1:00 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Phone Going Quiet This sounds like Audio Ducking is kicking in when not wanted. You can add Audio Ducking to your rotor (Settings,  Accessibility,  Rotor Items). And then turn Audio Ducking off until you really want to have it on? HarryOn 15 Apr 2024, at 20:50, portillo@gmail.com wrote:Good afternoon,This has been happening for a little while now, but I’m really noticing it now because it happens on a more frequent basis.I have an iPhone 15 pro, and I use VoiceOver. I could be streaming a show, or listening to a podcast, or listening to a radio station, and everything is fine for a while. Then, I hear like a clicking noise, and the sound of what I’m listening to or watching gets quieter. VoiceOver is still at the same volume though.I have a theory that this has something to do with VoiceOver, because when I turn it completely off using the triple-tap command, turning VoiceOver off, the sound comes back up to its original volume. I can turn VliceOver on again, and things are good for a while until the next time this happens.Much of the time I’m listening to or watching something, I’m not using my phone for other things, so VoiceOver is left alone, and I’m honestly baffled as to why my phone is doing this. I don’t know if it has to do with an update, but I doubt it. Any ideas?Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00e401da8f6e%24251468c0%246f3d3a40%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7D55626E-87F9-4359-8B32-356052DCF395%40icloud.com.



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Re: Phone Going Quiet

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This sounds like Audio Ducking is kicking in when not wanted. You can add Audio Ducking to your rotor (Settings,  Accessibility,  Rotor Items). And then turn Audio Ducking off until you really want to have it on? HarryOn 15 Apr 2024, at 20:50, portillo@gmail.com wrote:Good afternoon,This has been happening for a little while now, but I’m really noticing it now because it happens on a more frequent basis.I have an iPhone 15 pro, and I use VoiceOver. I could be streaming a show, or listening to a podcast, or listening to a radio station, and everything is fine for a while. Then, I hear like a clicking noise, and the sound of what I’m listening to or watching gets quieter. VoiceOver is still at the same volume though.I have a theory that this has something to do with VoiceOver, because when I turn it completely off using the triple-tap command, turning VoiceOver off, the sound comes back up to its original volume. I can turn VliceOver on again, and things are good for a while until the next time this happens.Much of the time I’m listening to or watching something, I’m not using my phone for other things, so VoiceOver is left alone, and I’m honestly baffled as to why my phone is doing this. I don’t know if it has to do with an update, but I doubt it. Any ideas?Jim 



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Re: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

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There is also the Rivo 2 non-Braille keyboardHarryOn 10 Mar 2024, at 18:20, Louise Peyton  wrote:







Hello:
What is the difference between using the Hable 1 and the Orbit writer?  Thanks in advance.
 


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There’s also the Hable. You can find more at
Hable – Smart devices made accessible to everyone (iamhable.com) It’s available through the AT Guys at

Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts (atguys.com)
 

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As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, very small and is $99.
https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/
 
 

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Hello all,
I’m looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to use for when texting on my iPhone.
So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.
Thanks and take care.
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Re: About Voice Dream Reader and downloading books

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yes! When I share from Safari article now appears reliably in voice Dream Reede. - whereas I could not see any of my library in iPad app before the update and downloaded articles from Safari would sometimes simply be grayed out and impossible to open. So,  hurrah for the new update!HarryOn 2 Feb 2024, at 15:40, Richard Turner  wrote:  Has anyone who had issues found any improvement in the update they released a few days ago?   Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  



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Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

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Ah,  thank you for clarifying that,  Mark! In Apple Books,  I can set to 
continuous scrolling rather than page-turning to avoid such problems but most 
of my Kindle books were not apparently typeset to allow this. 
Thanks
Harry

> On 29 Dec 2023, at 04:45, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Harry,
> 
> Yes, if I manually lock the screen during Speech Screen playback, on a Kindle 
> title, speech will stop at the end of the current page.
> 
> However, when reading text from the web or other various text, locking the 
> screen does not cause playback to stop.
> 
> When it's all said and done, Speech Screen behaves differently depending upon 
> what is being read.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 10:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Mark,  thank you very much for the details. Your instructions work perfectly, 
> except that you do not refer to having the screen locked after starting the 
> Speak Screen process. Yes, if the screen remains unlocked, the speak. Screen 
> turns pages and carries on talking. But if after starting the speak screen 
> feature, I lock the screen, the Speak Screen voice simply stops at the end of 
> current page and does not restart and does not turn the page over. Is that 
> your experience too? Thanks
> 
>> On 28 Dec 2023, at 17:33, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Harry,
>> 
>> First, in order to have the Speech screen feature read a Kindle title, 
>> scrolling through the pages as it reads the text:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Make certain that the Kindle app for iOS is closed and removed from the App 
>> Switcher.
>> 
>> 2.
>> From the Spoken Content area of Settings, enable the Speech controller.  I 
>> suggest that you set the control opacity to 100%.
>> 
>> 3.
>> On the Home screen / LaunchPad of your iPhone, locate the Speech Controller 
>> and expand and collapse it a couple of times in order to become familiar 
>> with how it works.  Note that the Controller floats on top of the display 
>> and will remain in the same location on the screen.
>> 
>> 4.
>> With the Controller collapsed, launch the Kindle app and open a title.  
>> Place focus on the title from the point from which you would like the Speech 
>> Controller to read.
>> 
>> 5.
>> Now, expand the Controller and activate the Play button.  As long as focus 
>> remains on the Controller, it will read the text of the Kindle title, 
>> continuously.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
>> controller in iOS 17.2?
>> 
>> Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 
>> 15 pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page,  refusing to 
>> turn the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any suggestions 
>> about how to fix it?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
>> 
>>>> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Gentlemen,
>>> 
>>> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
>>> helpful.
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
>>> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big 
>>> fan of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles 
>>> while on the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and 
>>> start Siri playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback 
>>> options similar to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
>>> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
>>> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
>>> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are 
>>> many scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if 
>>> iPhone locks or another app grabs focus.
>>> 
>>> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the 
>>> Kindel app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first 
>>> c

Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Mark,  thank you very much for the details. Your instructions work perfectly, 
except that you do not refer to having the screen locked after starting the 
Speak Screen process. Yes, if the screen remains unlocked, the speak. Screen 
turns pages and carries on talking. But if after starting the speak screen 
feature, I lock the screen, the Speak Screen voice simply stops at the end of 
current page and does not restart and does not turn the page over. Is that your 
experience too? Thanks 

> On 28 Dec 2023, at 17:33, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Harry,
> 
> First, in order to have the Speech screen feature read a Kindle title, 
> scrolling through the pages as it reads the text:
> 
> 1.
> Make certain that the Kindle app for iOS is closed and removed from the App 
> Switcher.
> 
> 2.
> From the Spoken Content area of Settings, enable the Speech controller.  I 
> suggest that you set the control opacity to 100%.
> 
> 3.
> On the Home screen / LaunchPad of your iPhone, locate the Speech Controller 
> and expand and collapse it a couple of times in order to become familiar with 
> how it works.  Note that the Controller floats on top of the display and will 
> remain in the same location on the screen.
> 
> 4.
> With the Controller collapsed, launch the Kindle app and open a title.  Place 
> focus on the title from the point from which you would like the Speech 
> Controller to read.
> 
> 5.
> Now, expand the Controller and activate the Play button.  As long as focus 
> remains on the Controller, it will read the text of the Kindle title, 
> continuously.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 15 
> pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page,  refusing to 
> turn the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any suggestions 
> about how to fix it?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Gentlemen,
>> 
>> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
>> helpful.
>> 
>> 1.
>> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
>> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big 
>> fan of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles 
>> while on the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start 
>> Siri playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options 
>> similar to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
>> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
>> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
>> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are many 
>> scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if 
>> iPhone locks or another app grabs focus.
>> 
>> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel 
>> app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first choice, if 
>> given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books 
>> with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in 
>> over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now actively 
>> causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa.
>> 
>> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller 
>> an essential treat in the Apple orchard.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
>> controller in iOS 17.2?
>> 
>> Good question Sieghard,
>> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
>> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
>> speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
>> the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver 
>> caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case 
>> where all that is desired.
>> 
>>

Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 15 
pro or iPad pro M2,  it always stops at the end of the page,  refusing to turn 
the page. This has been my experience for a long time.  Any suggestions about 
how to fix it? 
Thanks
Harry

> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Gentlemen,
> 
> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most 
> helpful.
> 
> 1.
> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot 
> read articles from Apple’s own News app.  Amazing, eh?  So, as I am a big fan 
> of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles while on 
> the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start Siri 
> playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options similar 
> to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app.
> 
> 2.
> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books 
> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear 
> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app.  This is to say, one has to 
> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa.  There are many 
> scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if iPhone 
> locks or another app grabs focus.
> 
> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel 
> app for iOS than ever before.  So, while certainly not my first choice, if 
> given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books 
> with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in 
> over two years.  And the best part?  The speech controller now actively 
> causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa.
> 
> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller an 
> essential treat in the Apple orchard.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Good question Sieghard, 
> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak 
> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But 
> speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In 
> the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver 
> caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case where 
> all that is desired. 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  
> wrote:
> Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech 
> controller?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52%  I 
> found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the 
> phone.
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM
> Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen 
> controller in iOS 17.2?
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the 
> Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the 
> following on your iOS 17.2 device:
> 
> 1.
> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.
> 
> 2.
> Enable Speak Selection.
> 
> 3.
> Enable Speak Screen.
> 
> 4.
> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.
> 
> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a 
> list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to 
> work.
> 
> There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen 
> but, try as I may, I cannot find them.
> 
> By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.
> 
> All replies most appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen controller in iOS 17.2?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Mark,  you are quite right - this feature no longer works! 
Time to report to Apple
Harry

> On 26 Dec 2023, at 06:05, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I feel as though I am missing something.  Try as I may, I cannot locate the
> Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled.  Please do the
> following on your iOS 17.2 device:
> 
> 1.
> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content.
> 
> 2.
> Enable Speak Selection.
> 
> 3.
> Enable Speak Screen.
> 
> 4.
> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller.
> 
> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a
> list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to
> work.
> 
> There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen
> but, try as I may, I cannot find them.
> 
> By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri.
> 
> All replies most appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Haptic time

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

One finger double tap has worked for me for about a year,  but I do recall that 
on my previous Series 7 watch I had to do several resets until it started 
working properly!  It really should not be left in this precarious state by 
Apple! 
Harry

> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I just tried a 1-finger double tap about 8 or 10 times in a row, of course I 
> made sure the watch was locked/asleep after each time, but not once did it 
> giv eme haptic time.
> I wonder if there is some other setting which causes  you to tap 3 times and 
> 4 times instead of 2 and 3 times.
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Haptic time
> 
> On my Watch Series 9,  two taps always works fine Harry
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't 
>> know if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Haptic time
>> 
>> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
>> haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
>> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one 
>> of the recent updates.
>> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS
>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Haptic time
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Christopher,
>> 
>> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch.
>> 
>> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.
>> 
>> Smile.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Haptic time
>> 
>> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
>> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if 
>> this is true for anyone else.
>> 
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Parham Doustdar
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Haptic time
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've 
>> noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen 
>> doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes 
>> it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>>>> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello list
>>> 
>>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part 
>>> of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the 
>>> night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand 
>>> gesture settings?
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Fanus
>>> 
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Re: Haptic time

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

On my Watch Series 9,  two taps always works fine
Harry

> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't know 
> if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
> haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one 
> of the recent updates.
> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
> 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. 
> 
> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.
> 
> Smile.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
> is true for anyone else.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Parham 
> Doustdar
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Haptic time
> 
> Hi,
> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
> that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
> well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me 
> just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
> Hope that helps.
> 
>> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> 
>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
>> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
>> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
>> settings?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Fanus
>> 
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Re: looking for, a pocket size keyboard recommendations

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

What about the Rivo 2? HarryOn 5 Sep 2023, at 12:35, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







I was also going to mention the Orbit Writer. I don’t have an Hable One, so I’m not comparing the two, but if braille is OK, the Orbit Writer is also an option.
 

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: looking for, a pocket size keyboard recommendations


 
I highly recommend the Hable One bluetooth keyboard. It is small enough to fit in to your pocket. Ally do need to know how to use braille in order to use x.

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 5, 2023, at 4:50 AM, 
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Hi everyone good morning
Hope everyone is doing great
Have a question. For my iphone i am looking for recommendation for a small size or a pocket size keyboard? Looking for something which can fit on a shirt pocket for example.
Any models you can suggest?
Thanks once again
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Re: Disappearing Emails

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

My sighted wife has this exact problem every now and then and she has never 
tracked it down. I have never had this issue
Harry

> On 22 Aug 2023, at 18:08, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> She wrote:
> the person it's sent to never receives it and it's not in my sent mail, 
> drafts, junk or outbox,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 9:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Disappearing Emails
> 
> Hi Tessa,
> 
> Try looking in your drafts folder. Once in a while, this has happened to me 
> and I was ultimately able to find it in the drafts folder. I'm guessing 
> that's something got broken in the process of sending. Good luck.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Not something I have come across at all.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tessa
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 5:03 AM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: Disappearing Emails
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue.
>> When replying ot an email on my phone, using the native email app and my 
>> phone is up to date, sometimes when I dictate the email and then hit send, 
>> it seems to send but then it vanishes, the person it's sent to never 
>> receives it and it's not in my sent mail, drafts, junk or outbox, it's just 
>> gone as if I'd never written it.
>> Any thoughts?
>> Tessa
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Re: Apple Music Classical will make its debut soon

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I wonder how the app will cope with the very varied ways people pronounce composers' names? Tarrega? Mompou?  Anouar Brahem? HarryOn 12 Mar 2023, at 19:22, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:I pre-ordered the app last week.It’ll be interesting to see whether tracks can be added to a library and if so if they will be added to iTunes library as tracks are now.Malcolm ParfittOn 12 Mar 2023, at 18:58, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I know a few people on the list seem to like their classical music so hopefully they will be happy with what is coming in a few weeks:
 
Apple Music Classical will give your smartphone some culture on March 28 | Ars Technica
 
 
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Re: How To Translate Text in an Edit Field, with VoiceOver Enabled, in iOS 16.3

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Mark, this is a brilliant technique! I have also tried using it in emails and 
have just sent around the results!
Harry

> On 5 Mar 2023, at 07:33, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> I'm posting this because I think it is a marvelous feature for those who may
> want to translate text into a different language before sending the text to
> someone.
> 
> First, keep in mind that I am referring to text that you have entered into a
> edit field; for example in a text message.  I am not referring to text that
> you have received from someone or that may appear in an app or web page.
> 
> Second, the method that follows assumes that you do not have a foreign
> language keyboard installed on your device.
> 
> Third, it's a good idea to launch Apple's native Translate app, at least
> once, before attempting to use this feature.  
> 
> Okay, here is the scenario:  You are a native English speaker and you want
> to send a text message to someone who speaks Japanese.  Instead of depending
> upon the recipient to translate the text, you prefer, instead, to translate
> your English text into Japanese, before sending it and you want to do it
> from within the   Messages app.  To accomplish this:
> 
> 1.
> From within the Messages app, enter your text into the appropriate edit
> field.
> 
> 2.
> Single finger-double tap and hold anywhere in the edit field until you hear
> the VoiceOver activation prompt.  
> 
> 3.
> Now using the single finger swipe right to left or left to right gesture,
> locate and activate the "Select All" option".
> 
> 4.
> Now using the single finger swipe right to left or left to right gesture,
> locate and activate the "Translate" option.  A dialog box will appear near
> the bottom half of the display that has some pretty amazing options
> including one that will allow you to replace your English text, in the edit
> field, with the translated text.
> 
> I am certain that after you learn how to use this feature, you will find it
> most convenient.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Tot, Another Handy App from The Iconfactory

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iPhone or iPad On 22 Jan 2023, at 20:30, Fazil M.  wrote:
Is this special for iPhone or for Mac?Thanks! From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 4:58 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Tot, Another Handy App from The Iconfactory Voice Dream Writer is tot-ally accessible too - and almost half the price…HarryOn 22 Jan 2023, at 06:14, Kelly Ford <ke...@theideaplace.net> wrote: Hey,  I’ve appreciated the dedication to accessibility from the maker of Twitterific for so many years and it really disappoints me the way Twitter has treated them and other developers.  Loading Twitterific one last time before I removed it from my phone, I noticed the company prompting some of their other apps. They have a handy text editor called Tot.  More details are at: Tot • Your tiny text companion It is a straight forward simple text editor that works on the iPhone, Mac and watch.  By design it is limited to seven documents that you can jot things down in, copy and and such.  On my Mac, cmd+1-7 switches between the seven documents. The app is not free but this is one I was happy to purchase both as a new tool to explore and to give a tiny bit of support to the company. Kelly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/024E6FAB-187D-4096-B53A-3055B214DD92%40theideaplace.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C029DCD5-673B-4457-B5BF-08D1206DDD0C%40icloud.com.



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Re: Tot, Another Handy App from The Iconfactory

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Voice Dream Writer is tot-ally accessible too - and almost half the price…HarryOn 22 Jan 2023, at 06:14, Kelly Ford  wrote:




Hey,


I’ve appreciated the dedication to accessibility from the maker of Twitterific for so many years and it really disappoints me the way Twitter has treated them and other developers.  Loading Twitterific one last time before I removed it from my phone, I
 noticed the company prompting some of their other apps.


They have a handy text editor called Tot.  More details are at:


Tot • Your tiny text companion


It is a straight forward simple text editor that works on the iPhone, Mac and watch.  By design it is limited to seven documents that you can jot things down in, copy and and such.  On my Mac, cmd+1-7 switches between the seven documents.


The app is not free but this is one I was happy to purchase both as a new tool to explore and to give a tiny bit of support to the company.


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Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps

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Spring still works for now on devices where it is already set up. But I just tried repeatedly to sign in on a new iPhone and got the dreaded blocking message…HarryOn 21 Jan 2023, at 17:56, maryjo.lord...@gmail.com wrote:I was replying using Spring today.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cristóbal MuñozSent: Friday, January 20, 2023 2:02 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps I’m riding the bus until the wheels fall off. So far, nothing as far as VoiceOver accessibility has broken or at least not that I’ve noticed. Of the main social media platforms, it slowly became one of the more accessible ones out there. Terrible that the accessibility team was let go along with a lot of other people, but the work they did to make Twitter very accessible is still there. Spring for the most part is still working. I’ve noticed that I can’t reply or retweet, but it’s easy enough to access the option to view a particular tweet in the native Twitter app and do whatever I want with that tweet from there. Once Spring’s gone, I guess I’ll have to see how I get along with the actual twitter appt itself. I mean, Mastodon’s “ok,” but it’s like night and day as far as engagement and level of information. Who knows, Musk may very well run twitter into bankruptcy as he’s hinted at already and sell it off to whoever and it’ll end up under new management and structure where we’ll be able to go through this all over again. It’s used by  so many. Not just people, but Governments, organizations and so on, it’s hard to see some other platform supplant or replicate what it does any time soon.There will likely be a Twitter 3.0 or 4.0, but who knows what that’ll look like or who will run it. Might as well just go with the flow for now. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex StoneSent: Friday, January 20, 2023 10:43 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps I’m pissed about this. Less than a year ago, I paid good money for Tweetbot, and now I’ve got no money, and no app!Sent from my iPhone On 20 Jan 2023, at 18:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote: There is a few big differences between Apple and Twitter. Yes, Apple often does things the way they think people should do them, they even have released devices which didn't really exist because they felt that is what people should use, iPhone and iPad are examples of that.However, Apple is a public company and they are held accountable by their shareholders whereas Twitter is now Elon Musk's privately owned company and as such he really can do what he wants. Also Apple has made a clear commitment to accessibility a long time ago now (it started in 2009 with Voiceover being on every product) and I don't think currently Elon Musk has any thoughts for "minor" annoyances like accessibility. Of course I could be wrong and his vision for Twittter might be something nobody really can imagine now and maybe fantastic accessibility is part of it, we'll just have to wait and see.Whether anybody continues to use Twitter as it is now or not is entirely up to them, nobody who happens to disagree with what he is doing has the right to tell people to get off Twitter and delete their accounts. I think most people agree that Mastodon is not yet a replacement for Twitter and once again we'll have to wait and see if it ever will be or if it will fade back into obscurity as a platform for a small number of users.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Feliciano GodoySent: Friday, January 20, 2023 8:11 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Twitter officially kills off all third-party client apps Twitter is just fine. What’s your source for them firing their accessibility team? Just because Twitter doesn’t allow third-party apps to be utilized doesn’t  mean that it’s a bad company. Many companies do you things how they want. Look at Apple. Feliciano For tech tips and updates: LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12vFollow www.twitter.com/theblindman12vFollow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12vthose who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote: If you haven’t already done it, get the hell off of Twitter! They fired their accessibility team. Now they have officially said no more third-party clients. So if you ever thought Twitter was worth anything, now it’s not. It’s all about Elon and his stupidity. Get out!Twitter officially kills off all third-party client appsAppleInsider  /  n...@appleinsider.com (Amber Neely)Twitter has updated its developer agreement to explicitly prohibit third-party app makers from creating their own clients using the company's API.On Thursday, Twitter updated its developer's agreement with a clause prohibiting app developers from making their own Twitter clients.The 

Re: Siri command to reboot or shut down iPhone

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My iPhone 14 pro running iOS 16.2 won’t let Siri restart or shut down the device. But on my iPhone 12 running latest 16.3 developer beta, Siri can happily restart or shut down. Puzzling!HarryOn 13 Jan 2023, at 08:19, Julian  wrote:Hi,On my iPhone SE three, running iOS 16.3 beta, I am able to successfully have Siri restart and shut down the device using the voice command.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 12, 2023, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Hi,
 
Could people who have iOS 16.2 or earlier check if they can still successfully ask Siri to restart or shut down their device?
I am on iOS 16.3 public beta and this seems to have stopped working which is too bad because it was a handy command.
 






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Re: I Just Used the OCR Scan Text Feature in iOS 16.2, with VoiceOver: An Impressive Tool for Low Vision Users

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I just tried this out with my 13 pro and while the camera was scanning the text 
of my letter, i could make out that the amount of text being detected and 
transcribed kept changing in a very unstable and confusing way. At first there 
were perhaps 4 lines of text, then perhaps 12 lines, then suddenly back to 4 
lines, tgen 8 lines, then back to 4 lines - all without any audible feedback. 
There was an “Insert Text” button on the pop-up at the bottom of the screen 
which i had to double tap at a key moment when i guessed the maximum amount of 
text had been detected - but quickly, before the text in the text edit field 
disappeared again! I might stick to using Voice Dream Scanner…
Harry

> On 3 Jan 2023, at 06:16, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> So, a few moments ago, on my 14, with iOS 16.2 I decided to give the Scan
> Text feature a whirl while composing a text message in 16.2.
> 
> While I do not have enough vision to read the text of the display, letter
> for letter, I do see well enough to detect objects in a camera's field of
> view, recognize that text has been entered in to edit fields, etc.
> 
> So, I got a recent hardcopy letter, that I had received in the mail, and
> placed it on a flat surface.  When I initiated the feature from within the
> text message edit field, the back camera was immediately activated on the
> lower portion of the display.  VoiceOver instructed  me to move the camera
> lower so that the letter was in the camera's field of view.  
> 
> When the text was detected, I could see that it popped up in the edit field
> near the top of the display.  This was not a photo of the text but, rather,
> an OCR version that VoiceOver could read as if I had typed it into the edit
> field, manually.  All I had to do in order to save the text to the text
> message edit field was to single-finger, double-tap the insert button
> located near the bottom of the display.
> 
> Most impressive, at least to a low vision VoiceOver user.
> 
> The OCR feature, as described above, also works in the Notes app.
> 
> What I find most astonishing  is that text recognition is virtually
> instantaneous; I could not detect any lag time between when the text on a
> piece of paper, in the Camera's field of view, appeared, and when that same
> text popped up in the edit field into which it could be saved.
> 
> Apple is clearly onto something wonderful hear.
> 
> If only Apple's OCR would read out the text in the camera's field of view,
> automatically, there would be virtually no need for any third-party OCR
> apps.
> 
> I realize that a totally blind VoiceOver user requires more specific
> instructions, than, "Scroll down," in order to use OCR but, if any company
> can make OCR, even after all these years, appear magical, it is Apple.
> 
> In the meantime, for those who can use the Scan Text feature, I urge you to
> do so and pass your findings on to Apple.
> 
> Mark
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Re: What Does 'Confirm with Side-Button' Mean?

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Confirm with side button is an instruction for you to rapidly double-click the 
power button on the right-hand side of the iPhone. This triggers Face ID and 
confirms you want the app!

Dictation and a Learner’s Braille may lead to surprises in my messages…

> On 10 Nov 2022, at 19:39, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, group.
> What does ‘Confirm with side-button’ mean?
> I am asking this is because Voiceover asked me for this when I tried to 
> download Google Calendar.
> How can I confirm this, please?
> I have iPhone12 with iOS16X.
> Thanks!
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Re: Question about keyboard

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I can use a lightening-to-usb adapter to connect a usb keyboard to my iPhone. But I prefer a Bluetooth connection. HarryDictation and a Learner’s Braille may lead to surprises in my messages…On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:26, Rena  wrote:I heard about it and I wondered if it was more convenient than the one I have, the Keys to Go keyboard.I don’t have to charge the battery and to turn it on and off.I’m not sure if I will buy it or not, so I will keep the info someone sent. Rena  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Friday, November 4, 2022 8:15 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Question about keyboard It's a very valid question, but if you don't mind sharing your reason why you would want a keyboard which has to be plugged in rather than a Bluetooth keyboard which most people find much more convenient. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of RenaSent: Friday, November 4, 2022 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Question about keyboard Hello, I heard about some keyboards that instead of being Bluetooth, have a cable to connect to the iPhone. Does anyone know anything about it? Rena-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00fd01d8f057%246d0e62f0%24472b28d0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB624554FAF2FA6512A9B141DDC73A9%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: A problem getting into the Ap Store

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I’m having the same problem. I think the reason is that it opens as if you’d already tapped on My Account and it has timed out. You have to find the Cancel button, double tap and tgen retryHarryHarry UK On 14 Oct 2022, at 19:05, colleyd1...@gmail.com wrote:I updated my phone to 16.03 and now I can’t get in to the ap store. First it says it’s loading, then it keeps giving me the message that it can’t connect and to try again later. Does anyone know if there is something more I should be doing? Denise



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Re: Did IOS 16.02 gget rid of the voice mail transcript?

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I didn’t know transcripts were available - is there a setting somewhere?
Thanks

Harry UK 

> On 7 Oct 2022, at 06:48, Marty Hutchings  wrote:
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> I just upgraded my iPhone 8 to IOS 16.02 and now I noticed that my latest 
> voice mails do not have the transcript any more.  What Gives?
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> Marty H.
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Re: Taptic Time

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I had exactly this problem on my Apple Watch 4. I tried everything and only got 
haptic time to work a couple of times and then it stopped again. I bought a 
refurbished Series 7 and set it up  as a new watch and Taptic time now works 
every time!  A bit drastic but…
Harry UK 

> On 6 Oct 2022, at 19:13, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
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> My Apple Watch is running OS 9. Prior to this update, I had it set to give 
> time by vibrations rather than through VoiceOver spech. Now, however, If I 
> doule-tap the screen, I get spoken time instead of taptic time. I checked 
> settings, and taptic time is turned on. I'd appreciate any advice. I will 
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Re: Text Messaging Question

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It happens to me too, even when I am sending text messages to people with iPhones!Harry UK On 5 Oct 2022, at 16:06, Carla  wrote:Quite often I get a message failed to send error.  I’ve noticed it usually happens when I send to someone who has an Android phone.  Is there any place in settings that can fix this problem?  Thanks. Carla 



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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] Apple settles lawsuit with developer over App Store scam apps

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I still hope that this settlement might mean that flicktype could return to our phones…HarryOn 4 Sep 2022, at 16:39, Richard Turner  wrote:I know some folks liked and used FlickType, so thought people would be interested in this. From: tech...@groups.io  On Behalf Of David GoldfieldSent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 8:25 AMTo: List Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] Apple settles lawsuit with developer over App Store scam apps AppleInsider News - Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 4:30 PMApple settles lawsuit with developer over App Store scam appsAppleInsider is supported by its audience and may earn commission as an Amazon Associate and affiliate partner on qualifying purchases. These affiliate partnerships do not influence our editorial content. Apple has reached a settlement with Kosta Eleftheriou, a developer who sued the company over scams in the App Store and copycat keyboards. Eleftheriou is known for highlighting fake reviews on the App Store, as well as the prevalence of scam apps. He developed FlickType, an Apple Watch keyboard. He found an abundance of apps that copied FlickType, with these competitors even going so far as to steal his promo videos. Eleftheriou expressed his frustration with the App Store review team over the apps' copied-and-pasted reviews with five-star ratings. He sued Apple in 2021 after Apple released the Apple Watch Series 7. Thanks to the device's larger screen, the company released a full keyboard for it with swiping capabilities. Apple rejected FlickType numerous times in the past but didn't remove the copycat apps, and Eleftheriou said he lost revenue as a result. Eleftheriou said he was in talks with Apple over a potential acquisition, and filed the lawsuit when he found the Apple Watch Series 7 keyboard similar to FlickType. The suit further alleged that Apple does little to police the App Store because it benefits from developers pushing high-priced subscriptions onto users. According to a report on Thursday, Apple has settled the lawsuit with Eleftheriou. A request for dismissal of the lawsuit was filed on July 21, 2022 after Apple and Kpaw, Inc, Eleftheriou's company, finalized an agreement. The terms of the settlement aren't clear. Users can report scam apps in the App Store after Apple brought back a tool called "Report a Problem" in 2021. It's listed in the Information section, alongside details such as age rating, category, and more.https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/09/01/apple-settles-lawsuit-with-developer-over-app-store-scam-apps?utm_medium=rss      David Goldfield Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web siteWWW.DavidGoldfield.info 



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Re: Blind and quadriplegic

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It is perfectly possible to use voice control with VoiceOver 

This all sounded OK to my ears, even though it may not look so to the eyes of 
others. 

> On 13 Jul 2022, at 22:37, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> Oh yes, Joseph, I realize that and have concern for her situation. 
> Nevertheless, as I understand it, it is either one or the other, not both. I 
> hope someone can correct me, if I'm wrong. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> joseph.hud...@techie.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 1:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: Blind and quadriplegic
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> Hi Carolyn, actually, if she can’t see the screen, she needs VoiceOver and 
> voice control.
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> Sent using the mobile mail app
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>> On 7/13/22 at 9:58 AM, Carolyn wrote:
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>> I think one either has to have Voiceover or Voice Control. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sorry to bother you all, another question. My sister has MS and is totally 
>> blind and quadriplegic. She can only speak. I have tried to help her use her 
>> iPhone with VoiceOver, but when I try to use voice control with VoiceOver, 
>> the entire thing gets discombobulated. Is it possible to use voice control 
>> with voice over or not? 
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Re: Blind and quadriplegic

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Yes! Use EarPods and see  Richard Turner’s guide http://www.turner42.com/

This all sounded OK to my ears, even though it may not look so to the eyes of 
others. 

> On 13 Jul 2022, at 14:11, chaim biberfeld  wrote:
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> Sorry to bother you all, another question. My sister has MS and is totally 
> blind and quadriplegic. She can only speak. I have tried to help her use her 
> iPhone with VoiceOver, but when I try to use voice control with VoiceOver, 
> the entire thing gets discombobulated. Is it possible to use voice control 
> with voice over or not? 
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> Private Practice
> 917-902-3349
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Re: airpods pro not working

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Ive had this same problem for years, on and off! I try turning Bluetooth off 
and on again and if that doesn’t work, go to Bluetooth in Settings, tap on 
AirPods Pro and then select Forget This Device. Reboot iPhone.  Then pair 
again. It works for a while - and tgen the connectivity problems start again. 
And round you go!
Harry

> On 18 Jun 2022, at 11:48, 'Afik Souffir' via VIPhone 
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> Hi,
>  
> For some reason, my new airpods pro are not working.
> Any help?
> I've try to charged them, but they're not connect.
>  
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Re: Triple Tap Home

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Go to Settings, Accessibility and down to the bottom to double tap on 
Accessibility Shortcut. Go down the list and double tap on what you want the 
triple click of Home button to activate!
Harry

> On 15 Jun 2022, at 20:20, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
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> I had to reset my 1st generation SE yesterday, with the help of Apple
> Accessibility.  I discovered today that the triple tap of the Home button no
> longer turns VoiceOver off and on.  Fortunately I was able to do it with the
> help of Siri.
> 
> Would someone please tell me where to locate that setting?  I know I've seen
> it, but can't seem to locate it now that I need it.
> 
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Re: Apple Music and my own music library troubles

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I’m sure, oike richard, that it used to be possible to show my music rather 
than just Apple Music. I have iTunes Match as well as an Apple Music 
subscription. But I’ve just checked on iPhone and iPad and I cannot find any 
way to change what is displayed other than turning off using Apple Music in 
settings! Do ring Apple Accessibility and let us all know. 
Harry

> On 10 May 2022, at 23:45, Richard Turner  wrote:
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> Nope.
> Maybe Apple Accessibility?
> 1-877-204-3930
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On May 10, 2022, at 2:33 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi, I just looked in the Music app and also in settings. I am not seeing 
>> anything like what you suggested. :-)
>> 
>> Any other ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 10, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
>>> I do not use Apple music; but isn't there a way to select the source in 
>>> the iPhone music app to be your library, rather than Apple Music?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
> On May 10, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
 Hi all,
 
 I’m new to Apple Music, on a 6 month trial. I’ve noticed my playlists are 
 messed up. Playlists I have had for several years have changed. There 
 should be over a hundred songs in a particular smart playlist and now 
 there are four.
 
 I can only guess that Apple music has changed something. Is there a way I 
 can change it back, or stop it from doing this in the future? I am a heavy 
 playlist/smart playlist user.
 
 So far, everything is remaining the usual way it should be on my Mac. I’m 
 seeing these changes on my iPhone.
 
 Thanks,
 Traci 
 
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Re: What are people's thoughts on Spring for Twitter

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In his most recent podcast Jonathan Mosen rated very highly! The developer does 
seem very responsive to Accessibility. And it does have some more nifty 
customisation than Twitterrific but really you would have to be a real devotee 
I think to make it worthwhile. Harry

> On 1 May 2022, at 13:17, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
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> I've never used twitter before, so I have no idea.
> 
>> On 5/1/22, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> Too expensive! I don't see myself using it soon; I'm happy with Twitterrific
>> for daily use, and the official app for notifications. The way I'd probably
>> spend that much money on a Twitter app, is if I had more than one Apple
>> device to use it with.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>>> El 1 may 2022, a la(s) 3:03 a.m., Dennis Long 
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What are people’s thoughts on Spring for Twitter?
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Re: Why can I only hear my iPhone when using headphones?

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Sounds like the mute switch on left of iPhone has been moved to ON
Harry

> On 19 Apr 2022, at 13:19, Alison May  wrote:
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> All of a sudden, for no apparent reason, I can only use my iPhone when 
> headphones are attached. Any idea why?
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Re: Magic tap dictation sound on iPhone?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Doh! Rob, you were right!
Thanks
Harry unmuted 

> On 30 Mar 2022, at 18:05, Rob Armstrong  wrote:
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> The first thing to check is to make sure the mute/silence switch on the 
> iPhone is set to unmuted.  Use a fingernail to push it towards the screen.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2022 11:11 AM
> To: Old List 
> Subject: Magic tap dictation sound on iPhone?
> 
> I have just noticed that in iOS 15, the two finger double tap to start and 
> stop dictation only has a haptic buzz on my iPhone whereas on my iPad Pro it 
> still has a ping sound. Did the ping sound on the iPhone get replaced by a 
> haptic engine at some point when starting and stopping dictation?
> Thanks
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Magic tap dictation sound on iPhone?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I have just noticed that in iOS 15, the two finger double tap to start and stop 
dictation only has a haptic buzz on my iPhone whereas on my iPad Pro it still 
has a ping sound. Did the ping sound on the iPhone get replaced by a haptic 
engine at some point when starting and stopping dictation?
Thanks
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Re: Orbit Writer

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

The Hable One is brilliant for unlocking and using my iPhone while it is still 
in a zipped pocket under my coat. The typing style is exactly like Braille 
Screen Input which I find more tiring. And nothing beats the Orbit Writer’s 
navigation wheel plus Select button, which replaces swiping and tapping in such 
an uncomplicated way!
Harry

> On 2 Mar 2022, at 22:08, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
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> I prefer my Hable One.  I wouldn't touch an orbit writer.  I like that
> my Hable One has fewer keys then the orbit writer.  I also don't have
> to go into voice over accessibility then braille settings just to
> connect my Hable One.  I just turn on my Hable, go to bluetooth
> settings and there it is.  It is easy as anything.
> 
>> On 3/2/22, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> Hmm, I'll have to take a look, but I'd think this could be changed in IOS's
>> keyboard or braille settings.
>> 
>> I too love my Orbit Writer. I like the fact that I can pair it to multiple
>> devise and then switch between them. The only thing I thought was a
>> challenge, and this isn't the fault of the device itself, is all of the
>> keyboard commands I tried to learn to replace any on screen gesture I might
>> use. There's just a lot of them and there's only so much Apple and Orbit can
>> do to make them intuitive.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2022 10:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Orbit Writer
>> 
>> The only thing I did not like about the Writer is that when i backspaced
>> something, it would not tell me what i was deleting. Other than that, I love
>> it!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Brandon A. Olivares 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've been seeing discussion of the Orbit Reader on the list. This prompted
>>> me to look up the product as I had never heard of it before.
>>> 
>>> That's when I discovered the Orbit Writer. I'm wondering if anyone here
>>> has used it and what your impression of it is? I don't care as much right
>>> now about having a braille display, but having an easier way to write in
>>> braille would be useful. Any input or tips would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brandon
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Re: an orbit reader/iPhone question

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Before turning the Braille display off or on, it is vital to lock the iPhone 
screen. Have you always done this?
Harry

> On 25 Feb 2022, at 19:17, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Hello friends,
> 
> I have purchased an Orbit Reader 20 Plus, and all attempts To keep it paired 
> with my iPhone 8 For more than a short time fail. I have contacted technical 
> support and followed the instructions in the manual to the letter. If I keep 
> the unit in "sleep" mode, it stays connected. However, after turning it 
> completely off, though it recognizes the ORBIT reader, and in settings it 
> says the unit is connected, there is no response. I am told By technical 
> support to just unpair and re-pair the unit. Really? every day, and even 
> twice a day? Orbit Research, from which I bought the READER directly, offErs 
> no other advice. I'm about ready to just give up and send it back. But first, 
> I turn to some of you who might know how to solve my connection problem. 
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Both are Braille devices but Hable is paired through Bluetooth settings. Orbit 
needs a flat surface and cannot itself unlock iPhone in your pocket. 
Harry

> On 17 Jan 2022, at 00:50, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I still need to go to the web site, but I'm curious how it compares to the 
> Orbit Writer. I did see that you attach it as a Bluetooth input device and 
> not a braille device, so that's a big difference right there.
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 1:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
> 
> The rivo2 could be learned by a older person.  The rivo can be used as a 
> phone and you can play music through it.
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> The hable one is a very simple braille keyboard.  I wouldn't bother 
>> with that Rivo2 if you gave me one for free.  I heard a presentation 
>> of the Rivo2 and it sounded extremely complicated.  The Hable One 
>> isn't that complicated.  Someone who is older and knows braille would 
>> have no trouble learning the Hable, whereas the Rivo2 would be much 
>> more difficult.
>> 
>>>> On 1/16/22, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>> What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my 
>>> spelling of
>>> 
>>> that one.
>>> 
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they 
>>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out their website for more details 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiamh
>>> able.com%2Fhomedata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb699e68e91954ede7a2008d9d923a4a
>>> 3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637779569382141869%7CU
>>> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1h
>>> aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=twvl2Bid9%2BH7JCSGRoIvp%2B7LHPCQS
>>> 0iGsV7KwL3z8i0%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where 
>>> can you
>>> 
>>> get it?
>>> 
>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've 
>>> not had
>>> 
>>> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>>> 
>>> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  
>>> I'm
>>> 
>>> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I 
>>> can now
>>> 
>>> leave my
>>> 
>>>   iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. 
>>> One great
>>> 
>>>   feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without 
>>> delving through
>>> 
>>>   coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text 
>>> editing or
>>> 
>>>   interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a 
>>> usual
>>> 
>>>   pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille 
>>> Screen
>>> 
>>> Input
>>> 
>>>   keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, 
>>> you mostly just
>>> 
>>>   long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used 
>>> it for
>>> 
>>> a
>>> 
>>>   couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario 
>>> it is
>>> 
>>> very

Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Hable One uses the layout of Braille screen input

> On 16 Jan 2022, at 17:42, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my spelling of 
> that one.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be 
> great in whatever they want to do.
> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player 
>  
> ----- Original Message -
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
> 
> Check out their website for more details https://iamhable.com/home
> 
>> On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where can you get 
>> it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had
>>> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>>> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
>>> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>>> 
>>>>> On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>>> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave 
>>>> my
>>>> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great
>>>> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through
>>>> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or
>>>> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
>>>> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input
>>>> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just
>>>> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for a
>>>> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is very
>>>> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text and its
>>>> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective and 
>>>> not
>>>> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all its
>>>> functions while in your pocket!
>>>> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
>>>> Available from RNIB here in UK
>>>> Harry
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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I am in the uk. If in USA Google may be useful or their website 
https://iamhable.com/home

> On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:59, Casey Wollner  wrote:
> 
> Hi where were you able to get this in the united states and what was the 
> price?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 5:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
> 
> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had
> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
> 
>> On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave my
>> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great
>> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through
>> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or
>> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
>> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input
>> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just
>> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for a
>> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is very
>> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text and its
>> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective and not
>> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all its
>> functions while in your pocket!
>> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
>> Available from RNIB here in UK
>> Harry
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Re: query

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

In the uk it costs just over £200

> On 16 Jan 2022, at 15:33, Anthony Borg  wrote:
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> 
> Hi
>  
> Can you please tell me how much does that hable one braille cost?
> Thanks in advance
>  
> Anthony
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Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Check out their website for more details https://iamhable.com/home

> On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS  wrote:
> 
> I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where can you get 
> it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've not had
>> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.  I'm
>> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>> 
>>>> On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>> I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave my
>>> iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great
>>> feature is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through
>>> coats and zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or
>>> interaction commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual
>>> pocket-sized Braille keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input
>>> keyboard with dots 7 and 8 but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just
>>> long press the keys instead of adding in the space. I’ve used it for a
>>> couple of days and for the out and about or quick use scenario it is very
>>> good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for writing longer chunks of text and its
>>> Perkins layout is less tiring for that task. Expensive but effective and not
>>> many keyboards can wake up and unlock your iPhone and control all its
>>> functions while in your pocket!
>>> Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
>>> Available from RNIB here in UK
>>> Harry
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Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboard which  means I can now leave my 
iPhone zipped up in my jacket pocket while I’m out and about. One great feature 
is that it can wake and unlock the iPhone without delving through coats and 
zips. It has several proprietary shortcuts for text editing or interaction 
commands and for evoking Siri - otherwise it is a usual pocket-sized Braille 
keyboard. It is laid out like a Braille Screen Input keyboard with dots 7 and 8 
but no Space bar - for commands, you mostly just long press the keys instead of 
adding in the space. I’ve used it for a couple of days and for the out and 
about or quick use scenario it is very good. I prefer the Orbit Writer for 
writing longer chunks of text and its Perkins layout is less tiring for that 
task. Expensive but effective and not many keyboards can wake up and unlock 
your iPhone and control all its functions while in your pocket!
Here is thei Hable One website https://iamhable.com/home
Available from RNIB here in UK 
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Re: issue with keyboard on iPhone SE 2020

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Go to settings, General, keyboard and also turn off Character Preview. 
Harry

> On 26 Nov 2021, at 05:34, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> HI Lists,
>  
> On I believe it’s an iPhone SE2020 now running IOS 15.1
>  
> The user is saying that when they put their finger on the keyboard  the 
> letters and /numbers dance around or appear to.
>  
> This is causing the user a few issues at the moment,
> And they want to know how to stop the jumping around,
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> Could this be caused by slide to type?
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Re: Voice Dream writer not saving documents automatically?

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Thanks, richard. I was getting confused with MBraille!
Harry

> On 10 Nov 2021, at 12:36, Richard Turner  wrote:
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>  Are you saying you thought it saved to the clipboard so you could paste it 
> somewhere else?
> It never did that. MBraille does that.
> Writer should save the document so you can resume where you left off later 
> unless iOS 15.1 has screwed that up.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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>>> On Nov 9, 2021, at 11:20 PM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
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>> On my iPhone 13 pro running iOS 15.1 when I close the document I have 
>> composed in Voice Dream writer it seems no longer to save automatically to 
>> the clipboard. I thought this was a standard feature but I cannot find any 
>> setting to toggle it on or off. Can anybody help?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
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Voice Dream writer not saving documents automatically?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

On my iPhone 13 pro running iOS 15.1 when I close the document I have composed 
in Voice Dream writer it seems no longer to save automatically to the 
clipboard. I thought this was a standard feature but I cannot find any setting 
to toggle it on or off. Can anybody help?
Thanks
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VoiceOver activities?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

On my iPhone 13 pro with iOS 15.1 I have set up an activity so that the Voice 
Dream Writer app will run grade 2 contracted Braille and will voice all 
punctuation as I use an Orbit Writer. But now in that app there is grade 2 but 
no voicing of punctuation! Can anyone verify this? 
Thanks 
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Re: FaceTime with friends problem with link on Windows PC or android phone

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No antivirus that I know of on either device. I emailed a link to a friend here 
in uk but her android phone had same problem and her pc said her Edge or Chrome 
were not up to date. I’ll have to go back to Zoom!
Thanks
Harry
> On 1 Nov 2021, at 01:39, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Harry,
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> Any chance you have an antivirus software blocking the attempt to connect?
> 
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> -Original Message-----
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> Subject: FaceTime with friends problem with link on Windows PC or android 
> phone
> 
> I am going to host a Group FaceTime call this week for my local blind society 
> for the first time , I’m running iOS 15.1 on my iPhone 13 pro and I generated 
> a link for a FaceTime call as an experiment. I can tap on the link I have 
> emailed to my various devices and I  can open it to join the FaceTime call on 
> other Apple devices but when I try to click on the link on my windows 10 PC 
> or on my pixel 4a phone running android 12 and both android device and 
> Windows fully up-to-date, both devices show a message saying that either the 
> network is unavailable or it’s taking unexpectedly long to connect and 
> therefore has a link saying cancel. All devices are on the same fast Wi-Fi. I 
> seem to be to be doing everything right according to the instructions because 
> I can open the link on my Apple devices. Does anybody have any suggestions 
> about how to get Windows or android devices  on board with a FaceTime call 
> from the link which Facetime now generates?
> Thanks
> Harry 
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Re: FaceTime with friends problem with link on Windows PC or android phone

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Thanks - I did listen to Jonathan Mosen but when I click on the link on my pc, 
Edge does launch but with a blank screen, which soon shows the message about 
taking longer than expected and a minute or two later the big message comes up 
saying cannot connect to facetime. 
I’ll try another way!
Harry

> On 31 Oct 2021, at 12:11, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jonathan Mosen went through a demo of how this is done. He sent a link to his 
> windows computer, and in the end, everything connected just fine. Plus, the 
> web site version on his windows computer was accessible with a screen reader.
> 
> Now, from his demo, once you activate the link on your windows computer, you 
> have to go back to your iphone and say that it is ok that the device connects 
> to the Facetime call. There should be a pop up window or something on your 
> iphone that you have to double tap ok or yes before it will let your computer 
> join the call.
> 
> Hope this is helpful.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2021, at 7:10 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
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>> I am going to host a Group FaceTime call this week for my local blind 
>> society for the first time , I’m running iOS 15.1 on my iPhone 13 pro and I 
>> generated a link for a FaceTime call as an experiment. I can tap on the link 
>> I have emailed to my various devices and I  can open it to join the FaceTime 
>> call on other Apple devices but when I try to click on the link on my 
>> windows 10 PC or on my pixel 4a phone running android 12 and both android 
>> device and Windows fully up-to-date, both devices show a message saying that 
>> either the network is unavailable or it’s taking unexpectedly long to 
>> connect and therefore has a link saying cancel. All devices are on the same 
>> fast Wi-Fi. I seem to be to be doing everything right according to the 
>> instructions because I can open the link on my Apple devices. Does anybody 
>> have any suggestions about how to get Windows or android devices  on board 
>> with a FaceTime call from the link which Facetime now generates?
>> Thanks
>> Harry 
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Re: FaceTime with friends problem with link on Windows PC or android phone

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Yes, the meeting is already in progress when the problem occurs on pc and 
Android
Harry

> On 31 Oct 2021, at 11:18, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  I have not tried it yet, but do you have a meeting in progress when you 
> activate the link on the Windows or Android device?
> I think the meeting has to be in progress; which I'm guessing means two 
> devices have to be talking first.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2021, at 4:10 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> I am going to host a Group FaceTime call this week for my local blind 
>> society for the first time , I’m running iOS 15.1 on my iPhone 13 pro and I 
>> generated a link for a FaceTime call as an experiment. I can tap on the link 
>> I have emailed to my various devices and I  can open it to join the FaceTime 
>> call on other Apple devices but when I try to click on the link on my 
>> windows 10 PC or on my pixel 4a phone running android 12 and both android 
>> device and Windows fully up-to-date, both devices show a message saying that 
>> either the network is unavailable or it’s taking unexpectedly long to 
>> connect and therefore has a link saying cancel. All devices are on the same 
>> fast Wi-Fi. I seem to be to be doing everything right according to the 
>> instructions because I can open the link on my Apple devices. Does anybody 
>> have any suggestions about how to get Windows or android devices  on board 
>> with a FaceTime call from the link which Facetime now generates?
>> Thanks
>> Harry 
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FaceTime with friends problem with link on Windows PC or android phone

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I am going to host a Group FaceTime call this week for my local blind society 
for the first time , I’m running iOS 15.1 on my iPhone 13 pro and I generated a 
link for a FaceTime call as an experiment. I can tap on the link I have emailed 
to my various devices and I  can open it to join the FaceTime call on other 
Apple devices but when I try to click on the link on my windows 10 PC or on my 
pixel 4a phone running android 12 and both android device and Windows fully 
up-to-date, both devices show a message saying that either the network is 
unavailable or it’s taking unexpectedly long to connect and therefore has a 
link saying cancel. All devices are on the same fast Wi-Fi. I seem to be to be 
doing everything right according to the instructions because I can open the 
link on my Apple devices. Does anybody have any suggestions about how to get 
Windows or android devices  on board with a FaceTime call from the link which 
Facetime now generates?
Thanks
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Re: Problem with Siri

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I say “Hey, Siri, speak walking directions to …”
Harry

> On 26 Oct 2021, at 15:39, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> The problem I have with Siri is when I ask her directions to somewhere, Siri 
> will give directions out of the apartment and destination estimation, but is 
> like she's waiting for me to drive for the next part of the directions. Is 
> there a way to get Siri to just give me the directions so that I would know 
> the best way without riding in a vehicle? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 11:57 PM
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> Subject: Problem with Siri
> 
> Hello everybody I hope you are doing well and I hope this email gets through 
> to you. I am having some issues with Siri in regards to when I invoke Siri 
> and tell Siri to launch apps siri’s response is the following: I'm still 
> having problems with the connection." 
> Anybody getting this?
> I am on iOS 15.1 and I have reset all my network settings and everything else 
> seems to work very well except for Siri and all day this has been happening 
> even when I tell Siri to do something it still says the above message that it 
> has issues with the connection. Am I missing something? I have an iPhone 8 
> plus if that tells you guys anything. When I tell it to launch Facebook for 
> example that’s when I hit the same response and also when I tell seri to open 
> mail. I can assure you that my home network is a very strong solid connection 
> and if everything else works fine Siri should work fine but Siri is not 
> working fine but everything else works fine so I guess I’m gonna have to do 
> things manually now. Either that or Siri is broken in my phone.
> 
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Sheet Grabber?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

When I open various shared notes, I keep hearing VoiceOver say sheet grabber 
and I can do nothing with the note until that somehow disappears. Does anybody 
know what this sheet grabber is?
Thanks
Harry

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Re: Voice Dream Writer odd invisible feature?

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Thanks, Richard! Now that I understand their purpose, that’ll make more sense! 
It is only an extra few swipes to the right to get to what I am used to, after 
all.
Harry

> On 10 Oct 2021, at 15:32, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Harry,
> That is very useful.  It is how you navigate a document quickly, like in 
> Voice Dream Reader.
> The buttons related to that are below the document text.
> Maybe he could add an option to hide those buttons when you are not editing, 
> just reading.
> I don't mind the layout as is.
> Or, perhaps documents should open in read-only mode until you activate the 
> Edit button.
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
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> 
> When I open VDR and use dots 1-2-3 chord on Orbit Writer expecting to land on 
> file manager, instead I land on an invisible (according to my sighted wife) 
> row of buttons which VoiceOver describes as about choosing Lowest Level: 
> headings, paragraph, sentence (selected) or edit. Only after moving right 
> past these invisible options each time can I get to what I normally want - 
> file manager or add new document. Is it possible to get rid of this new 
> feature or does it serve some essential purpose?
> Thanks
> Harry
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Voice Dream Writer odd invisible feature?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

When I open VDR and use dots 1-2-3 chord on Orbit Writer expecting to land on 
file manager, instead I land on an invisible (according to my sighted wife) row 
of buttons which VoiceOver describes as about choosing Lowest Level: headings, 
paragraph, sentence (selected) or edit. Only after moving right past these 
invisible options each time can I get to what I normally want - file manager or 
add new document. Is it possible to get rid of this new feature or does it 
serve some essential purpose?
Thanks
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Re: Supersense is on Sale!

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Today I went to a French class where the teacher gave out a sheet on which she 
had typed out some French expressions and had added all the accents manually 
with a pen. I used Supersense to extract the text and imported it into Voice 
Dream reader and it was perfect! Horses for courses as they say?
Harry

> On 8 Oct 2021, at 16:09, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> That's really helpful to know. What kinds of things are you scanning?
> How does Voice Dream give better results?
> 
>> On 10/7/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Good to hear. I will hold you to that.
>> So far, I still use Voice Dream Scanner primarily for text scanning.
>> It does not handle columns, but I get better resulqs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>> -- Jane Wagner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> website:  www.turner42.com
>> 
>> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
>> On Oct 7, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
>> 
>> It's actually coming on well! It's back at the top of our development
>> road map after a busy year, so if all goes well, you can expect to see
>> it by the end of 2021!
>> 
>> On 10/7/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> So, recognizing columns?  How is that coming along?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
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>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Lowe
>> Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 2:57 PM
>> Subject: Supersense is on Sale!
>> 
>> Hey my friends,
>> I just wanted to quickly write and let you know that Supersense lifetime
>> and
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Re: [BlindApples] Solved my mystery of VO saying comma before each deleted character

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

And reading Richards email on iPhone 13 pro iOS 15.0.1 there are no strange 
characters!
Harry

> On 3 Oct 2021, at 15:35, Richard Turner  wrote:
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> I decided to use a small hammer to solve this annoying issue.  I reset all 
> settings.
> The problem is gone.
> I first tried just resetting the dictionary thinking maybe that was the issue.
>  
> No other setting seemed to be the problem so I decided to just reset all 
> settings and poof, all works as it should, only I have to go through and fix 
> all the settings that got cleared out. 
> But, I’ll take it. 
>  
> Thanks for your patience with my notes on this issue.
> And, if you were not being patient, thank you for not telling me, .
>  
>  
>  
>  
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Re: [BlindApples] Solved my mystery of VO saying comma before each deleted character

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I’m glad you got rid of the comma problem - but what’s with all the random 
symbols in your email? Is that what resetting did to you?
Harry

> On 3 Oct 2021, at 15:35, Richard Turner  wrote:
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VoiceOver verbosity settings - punctuation

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

How can I get VoiceOver to announce a comma, full stop, exclamation or question 
mark while typing with my Orbit Writer Braille keyboard? If I set verbosity 
punctuation to “some”, none of them are voiced. If I set verbosity to “all”, 
VoiceOver announces commas all over the place when navigating e.g. when focus 
in my list of emails falls on one from Apple TV, VoiceOver says  “unread comma 
Apple TV comma”
Harry

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Re: Fix for the issue with Voiceover not saying the name of some apps in the App Switcher

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

An alternative is just to tap the screen when VoiceOver merely says "Active", 
because then VoiceOver does speak the name of the app. 
Harry

> On 28 Sep 2021, at 19:42, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I received a tip on another list regarding the issue where when you bring up 
> the app switcher and flick left through your open apps Voiceover only says 
> "Active, actions available" or something like that but it doesn't first say 
> the name of the app you are on. I think on Applevis it said that it affects 
> only some users and that would make sense because it seems the solution here 
> is to turn off Reduced Motion and I assume some people may not have turned 
> this setting on to begin with hence they probably don't have the issue.
> For me on my iPhone 11 turning off Reduced Motion entirely fixed this and I 
> must say that I can't notice much of a difference in other areas not having 
> this on. I think I turned it on many years ago because when this option was 
> first available there was a different issue and it made sense for voiceover 
> users to turn Reduced Motion on, but I'm not sure if this is still even a 
> concern.
> Anyways, if you have this problem with Voiceover in the app switcher, just go 
> to Settings > Accessibility > Motion (the fourth item if you flick from the 
> top) and check if Reduced Motion is on, if so turn it off and I am pretty 
> certain your app switcher will work just fine.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Thanks, Richard! Sounds like sound advice culled from many years experience!
Harry

> On 26 Sep 2021, at 15:32, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Harry, if I can make a suggestion to help in learning to become more 
> comfortable with braille.
> 
> Mute speech.  Write a sentence and read it on the braille display.
> Use the braille display to fix errors.
> Then, turn speech back on to confirm.
> 
> VoiceOver speaking while using a braille display has always been more of a 
> distraction than a help.  It shouldn't be that way, but that is the reality.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 3:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15?
> 
> Thank you for trying this out, Richard! Now that I have restarted my phone 
> several times I realise that the problem of mixing or repeating words seems 
> to have disappeared. I think what continues to spook me a bit is what 
> VoiceOver is echoing, which is not what I expect to be echoed.
> 
> I am using Brailliant BI 40 X braille display paired with my iPhone 13 pro 
> and VoiceOver is set to voice characters and words and some punctuation. 
> Whilst I am typing in for example email VoiceOver echoes very confusing 
> random letters or echoes a word away before the letter I have just typed. I 
> also keep finding that VoiceOver fails consistently to voice spaces and a lot 
> of punctuation I have just typed. I tried setting punctuation in verbosity to 
> all that then VoiceOver started reading out the most bizarre bits of 
> punctuation on the screen is where there was no punctuation and when I went 
> back to some punctuation in verbosity VoiceOver continued to voice call 
> punctuation until I restarted the phone. Very complex! 
> I am a real beginner with Braille still so I do have speech to help reassure 
> me about what I am typing so strange behaviour with VoiceOver really throws 
> me! 
> Regards
> Harry
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2021, at 22:30, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I cannot duplicate this with  an Orbit Reader 40 on an SE 2020 
>> running the release of iOS 15.
>> And, you cannot send attachments to this list, so your screen recording did 
>> not come through.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C3447bf0bdd9a4e94b54c08d980d85116%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682488831427418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=f7yNiDRX2%2FvjXtcK4dH7DiY0Th2ypuPUGJ5oCq7gGFA%3Dreserved=0
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:58 AM
>> To: Abridged Recipients 
>> Subject: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15?
>> 
>> Using iPhone 12 running VoiceOver and public release of iOS 15 and a 
>> Brailliant Bi 40 X. 
>> Open Notes app and create new note.
>> Type: "they can do this". 
>> Move the cursor to just in front of word "do". 
>> Type "really" followed by a space. Then type two random letters and delete 
>> them. 
>> Then type "now". 
>> Examine the sentence to see chaos!
>> See screen recording. 
>> Harry
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Re: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Thank you for trying this out, Richard! Now that I have restarted my phone 
several times I realise that the problem of mixing or repeating words seems to 
have disappeared. I think what continues to spook me a bit is what VoiceOver is 
echoing, which is not what I expect to be echoed.

I am using Brailliant BI 40 X braille display paired with my iPhone 13 pro and 
VoiceOver is set to voice characters and words and some punctuation. Whilst I 
am typing in for example email VoiceOver echoes very confusing random letters 
or echoes a word away before the letter I have just typed. I also keep finding 
that VoiceOver fails consistently to voice spaces and a lot of punctuation I 
have just typed. I tried setting punctuation in verbosity to all that then 
VoiceOver started reading out the most bizarre bits of punctuation on the 
screen is where there was no punctuation and when I went back to some 
punctuation in verbosity VoiceOver continued to voice call punctuation until I 
restarted the phone. Very complex! 
I am a real beginner with Braille still so I do have speech to help reassure me 
about what I am typing so strange behaviour with VoiceOver really throws me! 
Regards
Harry

> On 24 Sep 2021, at 22:30, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Well, I cannot duplicate this with  an Orbit Reader 40 on an SE 2020 running 
> the release of iOS 15.
> And, you cannot send attachments to this list, so your screen recording did 
> not come through.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> - Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:58 AM
> To: Abridged Recipients 
> Subject: VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15?
> 
> Using iPhone 12 running VoiceOver and public release of iOS 15 and a 
> Brailliant Bi 40 X. 
> Open Notes app and create new note.
> Type: "they can do this". 
> Move the cursor to just in front of word "do". 
> Type "really" followed by a space. Then type two random letters and delete 
> them. 
> Then type "now". 
> Examine the sentence to see chaos!
> See screen recording. 
> Harry
> 
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Re: At last a VoiceOver voice which distinguishes between N and M!

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

And I have just discovered that the British Kate Enhanced voice also clearly 
differentiates between N and M. Hurrah!
Harry

> On 23 Sep 2021, at 20:47, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Harry, are in the U.k.? I found Karen’s accent difficult to understand but I 
> do like the U.k. siri male voice.
> I also am using Tom enhanced.
>  
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: At last a VoiceOver voice which distinguishes between N and M!
>  
> I do have phonetic feedback turned on but it is very irritating to have to 
> pause and wait every time I type an N or M!
> Harry
> 
> 
> On 23 Sep 2021, at 16:30, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Harry,
>  
> I'm glad you found a voice that works better. I'm curious why you didn't turn 
> on phonetic feedback under Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Typing, and 
> Phonetic feedback. I have that setting set to characters and phonetics so 
> that when I'm touch typing a word, Voiceover speaks the letter and if I pause 
> also speaks its phonetic equivalent. It's hard to mistake Mike for November 
> with phonetic feedback turned on. But to each his own.
>  
> Glad you found a voice that works better for you.
>  
> Alan Lemly 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:39:53 AM
> To: Abridged Recipients 
> Subject: At last a VoiceOver voice which distinguishes between N and M!
>  
> I’m in the UK and have so far been using Siri female voice for VoiceOver.
> With some hearing loss, I’ve been struggling for a while to work out if the 
> key below my finger on the on-screen keyboard is N or M, as VoiceOver seemed 
> to pronounce both as M!
> > But I’ve now discovered that the Karen enhanced voice works perfectly! Go 
> > to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Sprrch, find Karen and double tap, 
> > wait until the voice has downloaded, double tap tap and find Karen enhanced 
> > and double tap to select that one. Job done - little changes can make a big 
> > difference!
> > Harry
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Re: At last a VoiceOver voice which distinguishes between N and M!

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I do have phonetic feedback turned on but it is very irritating to have to 
pause and wait every time I type an N or M!
Harry

> On 23 Sep 2021, at 16:30, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> 
> Hi Harry,
> 
> I'm glad you found a voice that works better. I'm curious why you didn't turn 
> on phonetic feedback under Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Typing, and 
> Phonetic feedback. I have that setting set to characters and phonetics so 
> that when I'm touch typing a word, Voiceover speaks the letter and if I pause 
> also speaks its phonetic equivalent. It's hard to mistake Mike for November 
> with phonetic feedback turned on. But to each his own.
> 
> Glad you found a voice that works better for you.
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:39:53 AM
> To: Abridged Recipients 
> Subject: At last a VoiceOver voice which distinguishes between N and M!
>  
> I’m in the UK and have so far been using Siri female voice for VoiceOver.
> With some hearing loss, I’ve been struggling for a while to work out if the 
> key below my finger on the on-screen keyboard is N or M, as VoiceOver seemed 
> to pronounce both as M!
> > But I’ve now discovered that the Karen enhanced voice works perfectly! Go 
> > to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Sprrch, find Karen and double tap, 
> > wait until the voice has downloaded, double tap tap and find Karen enhanced 
> > and double tap to select that one. Job done - little changes can make a big 
> > difference!
> > Harry
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At last a VoiceOver voice which distinguishes between N and M!

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I’m in the UK and have so far been using Siri female voice for VoiceOver.
With some hearing loss, I’ve been struggling for a while to work out if the key 
below my finger on the on-screen keyboard is N or M, as VoiceOver seemed to 
pronounce both as M!
> But I’ve now discovered that the Karen enhanced voice works perfectly! Go to 
> Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Sprrch, find Karen and double tap, wait 
> until the voice has downloaded, double tap tap and find Karen enhanced and 
> double tap to select that one. Job done - little changes can make a big 
> difference!
> Harry

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VoiceOver Braille editing bug in iOS 15?

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Using iPhone 12 running VoiceOver and public release of iOS 15 and a Brailliant 
Bi 40 X. 
Open Notes app and create new note. 
Type: “they can do this”. 
Move the cursor to just in front of word “do”. 
Type “really” followed by a space. Then type two random letters and delete 
them. 
Then type “now”. 
Examine the sentence to see chaos!
See screen recording. 
Harry

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Cheaper alternative to MagSafe battery pack?

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My sighted wife has just preordered an iPhone 13 pro - can anyone remind me 
what people were recommending as a good alternative to Apple’s expensive 
MagSafe battery pack? And will it protect the phone as well as charge it?
Thanks
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Re: Protest about flicktype!

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Jonathan Mosen is urging as many of us as possible to email Apple’s Phil 
Schiller schil...@apple.com to urge him to intervene personally to sort out the 
problems leading to the developer of FlickType withdrawing his app after his 
updates were rejected for mystifying reasons. 
Regards
Harry

> On 22 Aug 2021, at 09:04, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Rather than bose connect,
> 
> The app to use is bose music,
> 
> It's pretty much taken place of bose connect.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Sunday, 22 August 2021 9:41 am
> To: IPhone List 
> Subject: Bose Connect and iPhone
> 
> I have two Bose speakers and my son insists I'd love pairing them together 
> with Bose Connect. How is this done, and is Bose Connect accessible? What, 
> exactly do I do once I've downloaded the APP, or, do I have to do anything 
> other than pair each speaker to the iPhone? Thanks for any help with this. At 
> least the APP's free, so if it's not accessible, I can remove it from my 
> phone.
> 
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> Peace & Blessings,
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> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Lobbying Apple about FlickType

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Jonathan Mosen is urging as many of us as possible to email Apple’s Phil 
Schiller schil...@apple.com to urge him to intervene personally to sort out the 
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Re: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

And the recent update to the NHS app now allows you to download that Covid 
certificate to Apple Wallet or as a PDF. 
Harry

> On 2 Aug 2021, at 09:10, Alison May  wrote:
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> I have the nhs app on my iphone and showing your vaccine status is available 
> there. 
> 
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>>> On 2 Aug 2021, at 7:10 am, Andy Baracco  wrote:
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>> I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on 
>> their phone.  How is this done?
>>  
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Re: forgot my code to apple watch

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You could go into the Watch app on iPhone and reset the watch - you would only 
have to enter your iPhone code. 

> On 26 Jun 2021, at 18:01, Afik Souffir  wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> Hi
>  
> I forgot my code to the apple watch.
>  
> What can I do?
>  
>  
>  
> נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10
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Re: Speak screen, Expand speaking bar. What is this?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

When I use Speak Screen to read Apple Books with screen then locked, it always 
stops reading after a couple of pages. No idea why. 
Harry

> On 23 Jun 2021, at 04:48, Pete Nalda  wrote:
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> It’s for people with low vision who might not need voiceover. I like it, 
> because it’ll read a book with the iPhone sleeping, which voiceover can’t do. 
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 10:37 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
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>> 
>> What exactly is speak screen? What does it do? How is it helpful with the 
>> use of the phone.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes. You can either expand the speaking bar, by double tapping I think, 
>>> then tap on “stop”, or go to settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content > 
>>> Speak screen and turn it off. See if either of those help.
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
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>>> Https://devinprater.flounder.online
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 On Jun 22, 2021, at 9:05 PM,  
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 Hi all,
  
 This message is getting in my way.  Can I get rid of it?
  
 Many thanks,
  
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Re: 1 3 word app

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Mountain Rescue in the UK has been complaining that this app gives them quite 
inaccurate locations when lost walkers use it to call for help. Unclear whether 
this is due to errors in spelling or pronunciation or what!
Harry 

> On 3 Jun 2021, at 14:27, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> I have not used the app, What Three Words on its own for a long time.  
> BlindSquare incorporated it into its orientation app but I just read an 
> article about how it is now using Apple Maps.  Here is the link to that 
> article.
> What3Words app now uses Apple Maps on iPhone - 9to5Mac
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
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>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: 1 3 word app
>  
> Hi
>  
> Does anybody use the navigation 1 3 word app ?  if so, can you explain to me 
> more fully what settings I should do before I start using it please?
> Thanks in advance
>  
> Anthony
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Re: Bose frames

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I have the orange lenses for my Tempo frames. It needed huge efforts by my 
sighted wife to swap them out!
With RP I need to cut out the blue end of the light spectrum. 
Harry

> On 3 Jun 2021, at 01:05, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
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> With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
> Danney
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun glasses,
> 
> The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,
> 
> Tenor are more squarish
> Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear drop shaped 
> sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the outer corner of the 
> eyes, These are more a womens glasses,
> 
> The closest
> I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose frames
> 
> Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me what style 
> glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a pair of sunglasses that 
> are aviator style and they’re very comfortable for me. I’d like to get a pair 
> of Bose frames that would resemble the Raybans. The glasses are Raybans. 
> Thank you stay safe
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the earlier 
>> models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The Frames do have 
>> very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and receiving phone 
>> calls. I wear my Tempos literally all day.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Warmest regards
>> 
>> Rick Alfaro
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Beverly Wieland
>> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> I am a month behind in reading mail from this list.  Hope you will forgive 
>> me for asking questions on Bose Frames.
>> I didn't know about them and am absolutely fascinated by the idea!  I want 
>> headphones I can wear while walking outside that would allow me to listen to 
>> GPS directions from my phone as well as sounds in the environment.  The open 
>> ear technology sounds like it will do that.
>> 
>> Since I have no vision, not even light perception, the lenses are not 
>> important except that polarized do seem to be better than non-polarized.
>> The Tempo seems to be highly recommended by list members.  However I noticed 
>> that the older alto has two features not mentioned in any of the newer 
>> models:
>> Integrated microphone
>> Multi-directional motion sensor
>> 
>> Do the newer models have microphones for taking calls or giving commands to 
>> the phone?
>> What is the advantage of a multidirectional motion sensor, either in general 
>> or for me as a blind user?
>> I hope someone has tried the alto and knows what this does.
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help, as well as for bearing with me on this 
>> subject.
>> Beverly Wieland
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Re: Finding Apple Id Password

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

One trick is, whenever you change your apple ID password, to manually type it 
into keychain's saved passwords or sign in to apple.com on the web and let 
keychain remember your password. Then you are covered. 
Harry

> On 31 May 2021, at 21:13, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> You will have to reset it as unless you wrote it down for yourself; you 
> won't find it elsewhere.
> If it was that easy to get, no one's password would be worth anything.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> Hudson
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 12:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Finding Apple Id Password
> 
> You might want to reset it.
> 
>> On May 31, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Marcia Yale  wrote:
>> 
>> I was prompted to change my password a few months ago and I thought I 
>> changed it to something I would remember--yes, I can't remember it! Is 
>> there a way to find out what my Apple Id password is? I googled the 
>> question and found that I should have been able to find it on my Mac, 
>> but that didn't work, so I'm back to my iPhone.
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Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I too had this problem and tried turning off image recognition and so on but 
the only thing that worked was to reset all settings. A right royal pain but it 
got rid of that dratted sound on my SE second generation!
Harry 

> On 14 May 2021, at 05:34, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen 
> recongnition and/or describe images.
> Or, you got braille screen input on.
> I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
> I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
> eneabled or disabled.
> Best of luck.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
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> 
>>> On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Good day all:
>> As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running the 
>> latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
>> Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre 
>> chirping noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  
>> Seemingly simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text field 
>> to change my name, even though it said “editing”.
>> I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
>> I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
>> I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When 
>> it came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
>> happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
>> So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
>> settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from backup 
>> process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit field 
>> in messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to type, 
>> though at the moment dictation is working.
>> However, this is obviously not sustainable.
>> Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
>> know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone heard 
>> of this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
>> Christine
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Re: Apple Podcasts less accessible since major update

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Also, if you flick right from Listen Now, Up Next, See all and double tap, you 
are in a list of recent episodes but as you flick right, the names of the 
podcasts are not voiced, just the episode titles. Also, some of these episodes 
date from days or weeks ago. I have written to Apple!
Harry

> On 14 May 2021, at 01:07, Marcia Yale  wrote:
> 
> Hello, everyone. If you use the above app and have noticed that flicking
> through episodes is much less stable lately, please let Apple Accessibility
> know. The more of us who show them the fact that VoiceOver jumps all over
> the place when you flick through a list of episodes, the sooner they might
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Re: Bose frames

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I have the tempo frames and I bought the extra orange lenses to protect my 
retina. Swapping out the original black lenses was extremely difficult, so 
beware if you plan to try this! Otherwise, the frames are brilliant
Harry

> On 2 May 2021, at 04:22, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the description.  It helps a lot!
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
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> We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell 
> anybody it does. Light houses don't fire cannons to call attention to their 
> shining - just shine.
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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2021 9:52 PM
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> 
> Shape,
> Age / version,
> The alto is the original frames,
> 
> They are kind of standard looking sun glasses but are the older format of 
> the frames and although cheaper I stayed away from them.
> 
> Rondos If  I remember correctly are the again slightly older format but have 
> the round lens  like an old granny glasses type thing,
> 
> 
> Tempo  are the later model and are a wrap around water resistant some what 
> rubberised arms, and a plastic like lens in possibly a couple of colours
> I believe blue, yellow and there is another shade but I an't remember what 
> it is,
> 
> The tempo have the best battery life out of them so far, with an 8 hour 
> life.the tempo are also meant as a sports glasses as well.
> 
> There is also the  Tenor,
> which is a standard form of sun glasses,
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> The tenors are meant to be a format of fashion sun glasses, for men,
> 
> There is also the seprano which is more for women as it has the somewhat 
> tear drop shaped lens
> Again more of a fashion item for women and a 5 to 6 hour battery,
> By tear drop I mean they  go up in to a sort of tight pointy end at the edge 
> by the arm connection.
> 
> 
> I've got both the tempo and tenor,
> They are both great and the tenors I wear most of the time while I'm out and 
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> 
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> longer but then where would you put it and if I wasn't wearing them every 
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Re: Finding my place in a document?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

You are right! Voice dream works fine for this. thanks
Harry

> On 26 Apr 2021, at 11:50, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Possibly the voice dream reader app could do this but I'm not a bigg user so 
> someone else might have better information.
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, 26 April 2021 10:11 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Finding my place in a document?
> 
> Yes, I could type in && at the point where I where I finish reading and do a 
> search for that when I reopen the document, delete the symbols and do that 
> every time. That does work but is a bit convoluted. An app which remembers 
> your place would be great, if such a thing exists?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 26 Apr 2021, at 10:54, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Pages would be great for this if you knew what you were doing with it,
>> 
>> If you want to read line bvy line then set your rota so that you have lines 
>> included and then make sure that is what you have when you start reading,
>> 
>> If you are looking for a specific place in a txt document then you need to 
>> have a marker or similar that you can find to start again from there.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Monday, 26 April 2021 7:25 pm
>> To: Abridged Recipients 
>> Subject: Finding my place in a document?
>> 
>> In which iOS app can I reliably go back and reopen a document such that 
>> VoiceOver will start reading from the same place I left off last time I 
>> finished reading it? I have several .txt files I want to read through quite 
>> slowly. Pages is useless for this!
>> Thanks
>> Harry
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Re: Finding my place in a document?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

That works! 
Thanks

> On 26 Apr 2021, at 11:50, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Possibly the voice dream reader app could do this but I'm not a bigg user so 
> someone else might have better information.
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, 26 April 2021 10:11 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Finding my place in a document?
> 
> Yes, I could type in && at the point where I where I finish reading and do a 
> search for that when I reopen the document, delete the symbols and do that 
> every time. That does work but is a bit convoluted. An app which remembers 
> your place would be great, if such a thing exists?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 26 Apr 2021, at 10:54, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Pages would be great for this if you knew what you were doing with it,
>> 
>> If you want to read line bvy line then set your rota so that you have lines 
>> included and then make sure that is what you have when you start reading,
>> 
>> If you are looking for a specific place in a txt document then you need to 
>> have a marker or similar that you can find to start again from there.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Monday, 26 April 2021 7:25 pm
>> To: Abridged Recipients 
>> Subject: Finding my place in a document?
>> 
>> In which iOS app can I reliably go back and reopen a document such that 
>> VoiceOver will start reading from the same place I left off last time I 
>> finished reading it? I have several .txt files I want to read through quite 
>> slowly. Pages is useless for this!
>> Thanks
>> Harry
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Re: Finding my place in a document?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Yes, I could type in && at the point where I where I finish reading and do a 
search for that when I reopen the document, delete the symbols and do that 
every time. That does work but is a bit convoluted. An app which remembers your 
place would be great, if such a thing exists?
Thanks
Harry

> On 26 Apr 2021, at 10:54, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Pages would be great for this if you knew what you were doing with it,
> 
> If you want to read line bvy line then set your rota so that you have lines 
> included and then make sure that is what you have when you start reading,
> 
> If you are looking for a specific place in a txt document then you need to 
> have a marker or similar that you can find to start again from there.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, 26 April 2021 7:25 pm
> To: Abridged Recipients 
> Subject: Finding my place in a document?
> 
> In which iOS app can I reliably go back and reopen a document such that 
> VoiceOver will start reading from the same place I left off last time I 
> finished reading it? I have several .txt files I want to read through quite 
> slowly. Pages is useless for this!
> Thanks
> Harry
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Finding my place in a document?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

In which iOS app can I reliably go back and reopen a document such that 
VoiceOver will start reading from the same place I left off last time I 
finished reading it? I have several .txt files I want to read through quite 
slowly. Pages is useless for this!
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Re: Single Bluetooth earpiece?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Great! It has now been ordered!

> On 24 Apr 2021, at 12:47, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I can highly recommend the voyager 5200 
> A bit bigger than the edge but just as good if not better.
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, 24 April 2021 11:12 pm
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> Subject: Single Bluetooth earpiece?
> 
> I have a Plantronics Voyager Edge and wanted to recommend it to a friend - 
> but it is no longer available on Amazon in the UK. Is there an alternative 
> single earpiece which sits on the ear but does not go into the ear canal? 
> I’ve had too many ear infections in the past. 
> Thanks
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Re: Single Bluetooth earpiece?

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Great! It has now been ordered!

> On 24 Apr 2021, at 12:47, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> I can highly recommend the voyager 5200 
> A bit bigger than the edge but just as good if not better.
> 
> -Original Message-----
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> I have a Plantronics Voyager Edge and wanted to recommend it to a friend - 
> but it is no longer available on Amazon in the UK. Is there an alternative 
> single earpiece which sits on the ear but does not go into the ear canal? 
> I’ve had too many ear infections in the past. 
> Thanks
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Single Bluetooth earpiece?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I have a Plantronics Voyager Edge and wanted to recommend it to a friend - but 
it is no longer available on Amazon in the UK. Is there an alternative single 
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many ear infections in the past. 
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Orbit Writer inserting spaces etc

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On my iPhone SE 2020 running iOS 14.4.2 I notice that when using the notes app 
if I wish to insert a space when typing with the Orbit writer I need to tap the 
space bar twice in order for it to insert the space. I also have to tap dots 
seven or eight twice if I wish to delete a letter or insert a new line break. 
Is this a known bug?
Thanks
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Re: Voice Dream Reader exporting text?

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Thanks, richard! I seem to have solved the issue by importing the VDR .txt 
files into textedit on the Mac and setting preferences to open and save as 
plain text. I don’t really understand the complexities, but at least it is 
working to read the files on the Focus Blue!
Harry

> On 18 Apr 2021, at 11:06, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> There is no documentation that I've found to say if they are UTF-8 or not.
> So, you will find out the quickest by trying one and see.
> Or write Winston directly. 
> I suppose you could bring up the properties on a computer and see if you can 
> find the encoding info that way...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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> www.turner42.com
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> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:06 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> I want to get files from Voice Dream Reader in plain text format so that I 
>> can put them on the micro SD card which I can then insert into my new Focus 
>> Blue 14 5th generation. If I open a VDR file, double tap on Document and 
>> select all text, will the exported .txt file be UTF-8 formatted plain text 
>> which the Focus guide insists is the only acceptable plain text format for 
>> Scratchpad?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
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Voice Dream Reader exporting text?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I want to get files from Voice Dream Reader in plain text format so that I can 
put them on the micro SD card which I can then insert into my new Focus Blue 14 
5th generation. If I open a VDR file, double tap on Document and select all 
text, will the exported .txt file be UTF-8 formatted plain text which the Focus 
guide insists is the only acceptable plain text format for Scratchpad?
Thanks
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Re: podcast recording on iPhone

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Jonathan Mosen is starting a podcast for blind podcast makers. See Mosen at 
Large. 
Harry

> On 14 Apr 2021, at 16:29, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Apart from whatever tips you get here I would suggest Applevis maybe a source 
> to check, a quick Google search for "Creating Podcasts as a blind person" 
> gave me this:
>  
> Podcasting for the blind and partially sighted
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 8:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: podcast recording on iPhone
>  
> Hi Peoples,
>  
> Today we are venturing in to a new possible catastrophe.  If I, like a 
> million other people want to create a podcast and I wanted to record on my 
> iPhone because I have a really neat adjustable stereo mic that plugs in to my 
> iPhone via the lightning plug, what app or app would I use?  And for that 
> matter, what would be the best way to just simply record things on my iPhone 
> that I might want to keep?  Also, could I use said microphone if I created 
> videos?  Thanks for all thought about this.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
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> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
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iOS 14 strange noise

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Can you help track down this strange noise? It happens frequently on my iPhone 
SE 2020 running latest iOS and it seems tgat after VoiceOver reads something it 
is followed by a brief staccato sound. I vaguely remember people complaining 
about this before when iOS 14 came out and I have obviously turned whatever 
setting back on. Any ideas?
Thanks
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Re: Lidar app

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And on the most recent iPad Pro!
Harry

> On 22 Mar 2021, at 14:02, Mr. Ed  wrote:
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> 
> Only on the iPhone 12 pro and 12 pro max
> Mr. Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Maria Campbell
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 8:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> So this app is still only available on the iPhone 12?
> 
>  
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> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
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> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
> On 3/21/2021 10:00 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> Mr. Ed,
>  
> The app is called Super Lidar and it is by the same developer of the 
> Supersense app. Here is the website:
>  
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/super-lidar-lidar-for-blind/id1543706309
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mr. Ed
> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 6:29 PM
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>  
> Hi Everyone,
> I know there was an app that use Lidar. Does anyone remember what the name of 
> this new app was?
> Mr. Ed
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Supersense crashing

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I opened an email attachment that n the Mail app on my iPad Pro 2020 with 
latest iOS. I hit Share button and selected to Recognize in Supersense. The 
Supersense app opened and displayed the scanned text correctly. I double tap on 
Share in order to share tgat text but tge Supersense app immediately crashed. I 
tried a couple of times on the iPad Pro but same problem each time. I then did 
the same on iPhone SE and had no problem. 
Can anyone confirm?
Harry

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Re: in the UK need an alternative to tune in.

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For listening, try Receiver 
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/radio-receiver/id311658127

> On 31 Jan 2021, at 06:10, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  Well, since TuneIn Pro stopped allowing recording, I do not know of any app 
> that allows for recording of radio streams. 
> But, your Music app on the iDevices has a radio tab. First, select the search 
> tab, and after activating the search field, flick right and you should find 
> options like Your Library, and then Radio. Select Radio and then go back and 
> fill in your search term.
> Another app that may be worth trying is My Tuner Radio.
> It has in-app purchases, but seems to have a ton of stations around the world.
> Now, I'm in the US, so I do not know if the judgement in the UK is just about 
> TuneIn or if you are going to run into issues with these other apps.
> Good luck,
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2021, at 9:11 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> haven't read the article yet, as having trouble with the link being over 3 
>> lines, but if this is the case, would also be interested in any 
>> alternatives. I thought the wide choice they offered, was supposed to be a 
>> good part of the point of such apps.
>> if not, bring back good old short-wave!
>>  
>> Simon
>>  
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: trahern culver
>> To: VIPhone
>> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 4:55 AM
>> Subject: in the UK need an alternative to tune in.
>> 
>> Hi everyone hope you're all doing well and staying safe I'm in the UK. 
>> 
>> Because of a court ruling tuneIn Radio can now no longer play international 
>> radio stations from the UK ceiling below: 
>> 
>> https://www.myerson.co.uk/news-insights-and-events/tunein-is-tuned-out-by-the-high-court-as-it-rules-against-radio-app-in-copyright-infringement-case#:~:text=In%20Warner%20Music%20UK%20Ltd,Patents%20Act%201988%20(CDPA).
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What I'm looking for is and alternative to tune in that will let me play 
>> international radio stations, Record them if possible and let me play MP3 
>> streaming links which I can add myself 
>> 
>> If anybody can recommend anything please let me know. Thank you for your 
>> help everyone I look forward to your replies kind regards Trey.
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VoiceOver gesture in FaceTime?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

When on a FaceTime call on my iphone SE,  double tapping on the screen will 
bring up the controls. Richard sent me an article which describes how, if 
sighted, on the control panel you can go down that menu and add another person 
to the FaceTime call. But when you first double tap on the screen during your 
FaceTime call, only the top controls are visible to the eye or to voice-over. 
If I turn VoiceOver off. It is just possible to push the control panel up to 
reveal the list of options and then turn VoiceOver on again. Surely there must 
be a VoiceOver gesture to move the control panel up to reveal these options? 
Swiping right on the initial four options does not reach those other options 
nor does a three finger swipe up. Any ideas?
Thanks
Harry

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Re: Adding others to FaceTime call?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Thanks, Richard. Though a group call is possible, I want to call my brother 
first and, once we are both ready, then add dad in. He is in a care home and is 
helped there with his iPad, so no time to lose. Once on with my brother, how do 
I add dad in?
Harry

> On 24 Jan 2021, at 16:10, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> From the Apple support page on group facetime calls:
> Start a Group FaceTime call from the FaceTime app
> Go to Settings > FaceTime, and make sure that FaceTime is on.
> Open FaceTime and tap the Add button  in the top-right corner.
> Enter the name of your contacts, phone numbers, or emails.
> To start your FaceTime call, tap Audio or Video.
> 
> So, just keep adding everyone you want in the call up to 32 people and make 
> the call.
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
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> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
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> I want to FaceTime my brother and then add my father into the call. Both are 
> in my contacts. I can get trough to either of them but I cannot get VoiceOver 
> to find any menu to add anyone else. Can anyone tell me how?
> thanks
> Harry
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Adding others to FaceTime call?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I want to FaceTime my brother and then add my father into the call. Both are in 
my contacts. I can get trough to either of them but I cannot get VoiceOver to 
find any menu to add anyone else. Can anyone tell me how?
thanks
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Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

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Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS uk App 
Store. 
Harry

> On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
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> Hi Friends, 
> 
> I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I 
> always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite 
> apps and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.
> 
> See Louie in Action:
> https://rb.gy/dfahp1
> 
> I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I get 
> more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder on 
> enhancing the app.
> 
> Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all 
> voice lovers.
> 
> I look forward to hearing from you.
> My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91 
> 9811886001
> 
> Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name 
> "Louie".
> 
> Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
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Re: How Would You Use a Column Reader

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I regularly get emails with a PDF of an article with multiple columns of text 
as part of a course for learning Italian. Some product instruction leaflets are 
also multi£column. 
Thanks

Harry

> On 12 Jan 2021, at 14:42, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I hope all is well! :)
> 
> We're working on developing the column reader for Supersense, and
> would like to better understand what you're reading that has columns.
> The goal will be to test our work against these types of documents to
> insure that it works properly. Let me know what you think!
> 
> All the best,
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Re: Alternatives to Aftershokz bone conduction

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Same here! Arropes are very light and flexible too. 
Harry

> On 10 Jan 2021, at 17:48, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
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> 
> Hello,
> 
> I've tried a number of different ones, but the Aftershokz were the best in 
> terms of audio quality, sound leakage, and comfort. I use the Aeropex, and 
> find them to be the best ones yet.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 9:26 AM Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> Has anyone tried and liked any bone conduction headphones other than those 
>> made by Aftershokz?
>> 
>> Aftershokz do not fit me.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
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