Re: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

2016-12-01 Thread Elise Ridout 
That was a dumb moment. I just know it doesn't work superbly on my computer 
seems sluggish but I use my phone a lot for other things. Maybe this won't be 
the best solution. Is this the advantage most of you find with the Apple Tv? 
I've always wondered why people owned them as well as a phone. I guess I know 
one reason why now.
Eden

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 2:00 pm
Subject: RE: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

>
>
> Most apps which show any kind of video will stop if you exit the app since 
> normally a sighted person would look at the screen to watch and not want to 
> put the app in the background to do other stuff.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Elise Ridout
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 1:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things
> 
> Hi there,
> I can not figure out how to do other things on my phone if I watch Netflix or 
> Directv. I do not want an Apple Tv as you can not work that with a keyboard 
> or braille display. Do any of you have solutions? Thanks. 
> Elise
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watching NETFLIX or Directv and doing other things

2016-12-01 Thread Elise Ridout 
Hi there,
I can not figure out how to do other things on my phone if I watch Netflix or 
Directv. I do not want an Apple Tv as you can not work that with a keyboard or 
braille display. Do any of you have solutions? Thanks. 
Elise

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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

2016-12-01 Thread Elise Ridout 
o disgusted with the service, you don't have to keep it.
> 
> 
> That's just my thoughts on the situation. Good luck, and happiness to all of 
> you who choose to stick with this for a while, and give it a chance. I think 
> from what we all learn, and do, we can help each other.
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/30/2016 11:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
> X you must be in an area where your local channels are actually owned by the 
> network. If you aren't, then you won't get those channels. And how did you 
> know that you were actually getting that channel? God knows it's not label. I 
> guess you're supposed to just memorize what's on all the channels so you'll 
> know what channel you're on. I am continuously amazed at the crap blind 
> people will take without complaining. Kind of reminds me of what black people 
> used to put up with.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I get my local fox channel, and my local NBC channel.  Nobody will get CBS as 
> they haven't signed on yet, I don't watch anything on ABC, so didn't look for 
> it.
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Lynda Ingraham <lynda..ingra...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mary, 
>  
> In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to accessibility, 
> local channels are not being offered in all markets. In the Albany, NY area, 
> local stations are not available. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming 
> options
>  
> It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth it. 
> Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are you 
> going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
> memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
> that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on demand" 
> and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available 
> on-demand program.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> it's really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
> help you out, you can reach me at
> kliph...@icloud.com
> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
> the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTVBLED by christmas.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout <eliserid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they 
> don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery 
> Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? 
> Thank you. 
> Elise 
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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

2016-12-01 Thread Elise Ridout 
 it has to be handled in the proper way.
> 
> 
> It's like sieghard told me when I was attempting to use Sling Tv. If you want 
> it to work so badly, and you feel so passionately about it, then do something 
> about it. Maybe that wasn't exactly right. I have trouble quoting people. But 
> that was close. He is perfectly correct, and this is what I myself desire to 
> do. I feel this service deserves a chance.
> You could barely do anything with Sling. I know, because I tried. I gave it 
> my all, and the service, and tech support was just horrible!
> 
> 
> So to me, even with all it's issues, including accessability issues, it's 
> something worth striving for. I am glad they had a 7 day trial. At least if 
> you are so disgusted with the service, you don't have to keep it.
> 
> 
> That's just my thoughts on the situation. Good luck, and happiness to all of 
> you who choose to stick with this for a while, and give it a chance. I think 
> from what we all learn, and do, we can help each other.
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/30/2016 11:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
> X you must be in an area where your local channels are actually owned by the 
> network. If you aren't, then you won't get those channels. And how did you 
> know that you were actually getting that channel? God knows it's not label. I 
> guess you're supposed to just memorize what's on all the channels so you'll 
> know what channel you're on. I am continuously amazed at the crap blind 
> people will take without complaining. Kind of reminds me of what black people 
> used to put up with.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I get my local fox channel, and my local NBC channel.  Nobody will get CBS as 
> they haven't signed on yet, I don't watch anything on ABC, so didn't look for 
> it.
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Lynda Ingraham <lynda..ingra...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mary, 
>  
> In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to accessibility, 
> local channels are not being offered in all markets. In the Albany, NY area, 
> local stations are not available. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming 
> options
>  
> It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth it. 
> Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are you 
> going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
> memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
> that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on demand" 
> and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available 
> on-demand program.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> it's really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
> help you out, you can reach me at
> kliph...@icloud.com
> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
> the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTVBLED by christmas.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout <eliserid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they 
> don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery 
> Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? 
> Thank you. 
> Elise 
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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

2016-11-30 Thread Elise Ridout 
Hi there,
Is there a way to look for on-demand shows by genre? I can not find one? 
Eden

- Original Message -
From: Kliphton Miller  <kliph...@icloud.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

>
>
> I really don't have that many favorites, maybe about 20 at most.  And I don't 
> have to memorize the channels, when you swipe right, it tells you what is on 
> currently, and you can swipe down to see what is coming on next.  I usually 
> can tell what channel it is by what is on.  Should we have to do that?  No, 
> but this is the norm for most new apps, and blind people are only 3 percent 
> of the worlds population, so developers don't feel obligated to make there 
> apps accessible.  Is that right?  Of course not, but what can you do?  JMO
> > On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:31 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth 
> > it. Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are 
> > you going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going 
> > to memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to 
> > do that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on 
> > demand" and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of 
> > available on-demand program.
> > Mary
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com 
> > <mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> > 
> >> it's really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
> >> help you out, you can reach me at
> >> kliph...@icloud.com <mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>
> >> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up 
> >> for the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTVBLED by christmas.
> >>> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout <eliserid...@gmail.com 
> >>> <mailto:eliserid...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app.. 
> >>> Is there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to 
> >>> have or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons 
> >>> I cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, 
> >>> but they don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch 
> >>> Investigation Discovery Channel that is anyone familiar with an 
> >>> accessible app that has this channel? Thank you. 
> >>> Elise 
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Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

2016-11-30 Thread Elise Ridout 
IT looks like if you don't live in a market with local service, you can't live 
Nbc Abc or Fox as far as I can tell from my scant perusal. I don't think I will 
be keeping this as there seems to be no way to search for on-demand shows by 
category. You could by network I suppose but what if I wanted to find all the 
mysteries or dramas etc. Doesn't look do'oable or it's not labelled. 
lElise 


- Original Message -
From: Gordon  <gor...@gordonradio.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

>
>
> So does this work like the first incarnations of the dishes that we had back 
> in the 90's? I live in Dallas and we get our local Fox affiliate. So would 
> someone in a market that doesn't have a local Fox station get ours here? I 
> remember having Direct TV back in the 90's and getting ABC from one of the 
> New York stations and CBS came from California. 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/30/2016 10:09 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
> I'm not surprised about the local channels. From what I read leading up to 
> this, those local channels that will be offered are those that are actually 
> owned by the networks. In cases where it is a locally owned station that is 
> affiliated with the network, forget it. And that probably means most of the 
> country is in the "forget it" zone. I'm not even sure how you are supposed to 
> know if you are one of the lucky ones or not. With no channel labeling, how 
> would you know? Same for the regional sports networks. It is supposed to be 
> dependent on your location. So here I am, in the area of the pac 12. How am I 
> supposed to know if my local network is offered? The channel isn't labeled if 
> it's there. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but this oversight is so 
> basic that it deserves to be beaten. I just wish I knew whom to write at AT 
> so I can beat it there.
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Lynda Ingraham <lynda.ingra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mary, 
>  
> In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to accessibility, 
> local channels are not being offered in all markets. In the Albany, NY area, 
> local stations are not available. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming 
> options
>  
> It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth it. 
> Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are you 
> going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
> memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
> that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on demand" 
> and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available 
> on-demand program.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> it's really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
> help you out, you can reach me at
> kliph...@icloud.com
> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
> the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTVBLED by christmas.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout <eliserid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they 
> don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery 
> Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? 
> Thank you. 
> Elise 
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Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now

2016-11-30 Thread Elise Ridout 
Hey there,
As I use a braille display,

I have no interest in the Apple Tv. I'm honestly all thumbs except with the 
keyboard and display. So, I'm not sure how well the app will work but my 
problem right now is I can not find the free trial button that does not have 
the Apple Tv. It seems to want to force me to sign up for that. I must be doing 
something wrong.  - Original Message -
From: Kliphton Miller  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: My thoughts regarding Directv Now

>
>
> Well, this is what I have managed to do. browse channels, add to favorite, 
> and search for channels.  To browse the channels, go into guide, click on the 
> all channels button, swipe once to the right, and then swipe down, as you 
> swipe down, the channels will not be named, but you can get info on what's 
> currently on, and what is coming up.  If you find a channel you want to add 
> to favorites, swipe left, it willl say highlight to favorites, click that and 
> your done.  Voiceover won't tell you its checked, but it is.  Once you are 
> done, back out of the guide, and go back in, but this time swipe down to 
> favorites and click there.  This will give you your favorites in alphabetical 
> order.  Also, if you know what channel you want to watch, use the search, it 
> is very helpful.  If anyone else wants to discuss this app, I can host a 
> conference in the zoom app so we can exchange tricks and tips.  Just let me 
> know 
> kliph...@icloud.com 
> HTH
> > On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > 
> > I have read all the thread so far. I have some thoughts I would like to 
> > share. I can't answer all the issues people are having. So I apologize 
> > for this in advance. And these are just my thoughts, and opinions. So 
> > please try not to take anything I say personally.
> > 
> > 
> > First of all, I do not find this App terrible at all. I am quite happy 
> > that I signed up, and I will most likely keep the service once my free 
> > trial is over.
> > 
> > Yes, I do agree that a lot still needs to be worked out, in order for 
> > this app to be more accessible, or even completely accessible.
> > 
> > I prefer this app over Sling TV. I honestly really disliked that app. 
> > Yes it might have listed the channel numbers. But even though it did 
> > this, you had to either watch the channel, until you learned what the 
> > channel was, or you had to get sighted assistance. You couldn't do most 
> > things with the app, such as add to favorites, or know what you were 
> > watching.
> > 
> > Not to mention, their tech support was down right awful!
> > 
> > 
> > Now as for the Directv Now app, I still have a lot to learn. But I am 
> > looking forward to learning it. I know I will have frustrations along 
> > the way. But I feel it's worth it to me.
> > 
> > 
> > When the app came up after I was signed in, a channel came on right 
> > away. When I swiped to the left, or the right, the channels would change.
> > 
> > If I would touch the track pad, the show would pause. At least, I think 
> > I am remembering that correctly. I was able to swipe left and right, 
> > where I then saw some options.
> > 
> > 
> > I somehow discovered that I could see what show I was watching, and how 
> > long the show would still be on. When I swiped down, I could see some of 
> > the shows that were coming up.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I haven't got a clue how I managed to do this. I wish I 
> > could know what I did. But I know I will figure it out again. When I do, 
> > I will write it down, so I can share it with all of you.
> > 
> > 
> > I haven't tried to add any channels to my favorites. I want to do this, 
> > most definitely! But I think I will wait until my sighted friend can 
> > help me. This way, I can choose what I want, and make a list as to the 
> > order they are in. At least until I get it memorized.
> > 
> > 
> > I would like to know how I see the channels ordered by catagory, or 
> > whatever that is, that someone mentioned.
> > 
> > 
> > Also, someone mentioned there were networks listed at the bottom of the 
> > screen.
> > 
> > How do I find these, and how do I figure out what the buttons are, that 
> > were mentioned?
> > 
> > I guess just by trial and error, really.
> > 
> > Also, have they started the on-demand service yet? I would imagine this 
> > might take some time. But when it happens, I really hope we can access 
> > it in some way.
> > 
> > 
> > I do agree that the website is horrible to use. The really need to fix 
> > that, fast! The sooner the better, would be much appreciated!
> > 
> > I would like to know who to call for tech support. I want to see how 
> > they react, and what they might say.
> > 
> > However, the only number I can find to call, won't send me to tech 
> > support, or any help for that matter. It wants

disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

2016-11-30 Thread Elise Ridout 
Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have or 
pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I cancelled my 
Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they don't offer a 
streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery Channel that is 
anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? Thank you. 
Elise 

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Re: direct TV now, launches on November 30th

2016-11-30 Thread Elise Ridout 
Hi Jennifer,
>From what I gather from the website and from other discussions, you do not 
>have to be a subscriber. They have a 7-day free trial. It looks like you go to 
>the website for directvnow and enter your email and it says they will contact 
>you at launch. I have seen nothing yet, but they have a fairly decent channel 
>lineup.  I'm glad they are offering a 7-day free trial to see if the app is 
>accessible. I apologize for not being able to direct you to the website that 
>had the channel list. I saw it on twitter and did not save it. Hth. 
Elise

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:54 am
Subject: Re: direct TV now, launches on November 30th

>
>
> Hi.
> I kind of missed the boat on this one... is this a service you sign up for, 
> or do you already have to be a direct tv user? Meaning... through your cable 
> company? 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:07 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> > 
> > Yes. Here you go.
> > 
> > https://www.cnet.com/news/directv-now-vs-sling-tv-vs-playstation-vue-channels-compared/?ftag=COS-"EN-1BY
> >  _GHAAA0BANDLINK_IDFORCCEAGGBB002;GGIN
> >> On Nov 29, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Is there a listing of all the channels this will come with?
> >>  
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of Rajiv Shah
> >> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:06 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: direct TV now, launches on november 30th
> >>  
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> The only drawback for the moment is no cloud DVR. Otherwise, a very good 
> >> deal.
> >> 
> >> Rajiv
> >> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Kliphton Miller 
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Sent: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:28:27 -0500 (EST)
> >> Subject: direct TV now, launches on november 30th
> >> 
> >>> Direct TV Now is swinging for the fences!  Not only are they offering a 
> >>> free appleTVBLED if you commit to 3 months of service, but for a limited 
> >>> time, you can get over 100 channels for 35 bucks, and add on HBO and 
> >>> cenamax for only 5 bucks each.   That is huge!  Considering HBO is 15 
> >>> bucks by itself on appleTV and other cable providers.  Read more here
> >>> https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/28/att-directv-now-channels-price-launch-details/
> >> 
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