RE: problum with my i phone 14 prow max my hapticks are working but the sounds seem to not be.

[michv]

Oh sorry. I ment to say that when I turned the mute switch to off everything is 
now back. From Mich.

 

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Turner
Sent: February 27, 2024 7:01 PM
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Subject: RE: problum with my i phone 14 prow max my hapticks are working but 
the sounds seem to not be.

 

Mitch,

Your message has no content, just “Sent from my iPhone.”

 

 

 

 

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Verrier
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 3:54 PM
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Subject: Re: problum with my i phone 14 prow max my hapticks are working but 
the sounds seem to not be.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Feb 27, 2024, at 6:34 PM, Tom Lange mailto:lang...@gmail.com> > wrote:



hi,

I had the same problem not long ago. Seems I had the mute switch set on.

 

On Feb 27, 2024, at 3:10 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

What is the sound level under settings, sounds and haptics? 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 

 

 

On Feb 27, 2024, at 3:04 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca   
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Hi all. I have found a problem since last night with my phone. My haptucks are 
working but when I get a notification the sounds seem to not be. I have gone 
into sounds and have haptucks checked and sounds are also checked. I have tried 
re starting the phone and still when I get any kind of a notification instead 
of getting the sound with the hapticks I only getthe hapticks and not the sound 
for instince on what’s app it would ding and vibrate at the same time and now 
it is just vibrateing and vo is saying notification and who it is from but I am 
used to hearing the sound feeling the vibration and hearing vo saying the 
notification but it is only vibrateing and vo is saying the notification who it 
is from but there is no sound eventhough the sounds are selected under settings 
and sounds. I am not shurew hat’s going on. Nay ideas? Many thanks. From Mich.

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problum with my i phone 14 prow max my hapticks are working but the sounds seem to not be.

[michv]

Hi all. I have found a problem since last night with my phone. My haptucks
are working but when I get a notification the sounds seem to not be. I have
gone into sounds and have haptucks checked and sounds are also checked. I
have tried re starting the phone and still when I get any kind of a
notification instead of getting the sound with the hapticks I only getthe
hapticks and not the sound for instince on what's app it would ding and
vibrate at the same time and now it is just vibrateing and vo is saying
notification and who it is from but I am used to hearing the sound feeling
the vibration and hearing vo saying the notification but it is only
vibrateing and vo is saying the notification who it is from but there is no
sound eventhough the sounds are selected under settings and sounds. I am not
shurew hat's going on. Nay ideas? Many thanks. From Mich.

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RE: Hable 1

[michv]

Hi as some one who used the hable 1 a few months ago I would say that yes you 
have to know braille to use it as far as typing on it. It is a input keyboard 
only there is no braille display on it and there is no speech output unless you 
count the speech that comes out from your I phone or I pad that you are using 
it on. Youhold it between your 2 hands and your fingers rest on the perkins 
styal keyboard the keys press up word there are 3 buttons down on the boddem of 
the keyboard the round button is backspace and the one on the right is deleate. 
And the middle is space. Hth. From Mich.  

 

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Weitzel
Sent: February 1, 2024 2:13 PM
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Subject: Hable 1

 

Hi, I just received an email from A T Guys and I am curious about the 
information on their website about the Hable 1. They have the following in the 
title:

 

Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to 
Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts

Then  in the description they say this:

Simplified and Fast Typing: Using Hable One your typing speed enhancement 
increases considerably due to the great design streamlines, vastly improving 
your previous keyboard experience. You don’t need to know Braille to use it, 
making it a perfect choice among blind people products.

 

So, it’s a braille keyboard but you don’t need to know braille to use it? Just 
wondering how this works.

 

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is there a way on the i phone 15 to check your hart rate etc?

[michv]

Hi all My Dad has a I phone 15 and he asked me if there was a way to check
your hart rate and stuff on the phone? I told him that I thought that was
only on the watch but thought I would ask hear. He has a I phone 14 and he
said there should be a app for this and I said to check the helth app. Hth.
Btw my Dad is sighted. From Mich BVerrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

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some of my notifications are still appearing on my i phone 8 and not my i phone 14 pro.

[michv]

Hi all. Some of my notifications are appearing on my I phone 8 and not my I
phone 14 pro. For instince the brakeing news app. I have checked under
settings, notification's, and the announce and banners are on as well as the
announce notification is on. What can I do to fix this? Also when I pick up
my I phone 8 I can swipe through the notifications and on my 14 pro I need
to look under notifications how do I make it so that when I have
notifications that they appear on the lock screen? Again I have checked and
all of that seems to be the same on each phone the appear on lock screen is
on but they are not doing it on the I phone pro. Many thanks. I should say
that I do still have my I phone 8 listed as a device on I clowd. From Mich. 

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some notifications are still going to my old i phone 8 and not my new i phone 14 pro.

[michv]

Hello all I transferd from I clowd back up all of my data from my I phone 8
to my I phone 14. I didn't remove anything from my I phone 8 yet but I have
found that since doing that I found that some notifactions are going to my I
phone 8 and not my I phone 14. I checked all of the notifactations on each
of the phones and they are all on and should be working. The apps that I am
having ishues with are x formiley twitter and the braking news app. Each of
those on each of the phones say show on the lock screen and then
announcement is set to on and the description is banners, badges, sounds
etc. what should I do to try to fix this? From Mich.

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question about where to find the magnifier? I can only get to it through asking serie

[michv]

Hi all. I am now running a I phone 14 pro. I am wondering where to find the
magnifier? I can only find it when asking Serie. I have gone through all of
my folders in all of my 8 pages of apps and can't find it. I have turned on
the door detection and people detection app and that is all working good I
am just wondering if I can only get to this by asking Serie? Since as I said
I can't seem to find it any other way.   Many thanks. From Mich.

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question how to inable door detection on i phone 14 prow and if it is ok to remove i phone 8 from apple id account

[michv]

Hi all. I have just gone through all of the settings to make shure that they
are the same on my I phone 14 as my old I phone 8. I am wondering how do I
go about and inable door detection on the I phone 14 prow? And also is it ok
to remove the I phone 8 from the account under my apple id? Since I don't
want to loose anything by doing so. Many thanks. From Mich.

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RE: I just got a new i phone 14 and have one questiona bout one of the buttons on the case.

[michv]

Hi this is a oderbox defender case and it is round like a button. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: November 30, 2023 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I just got a new i phone 14 and have one questiona bout one of the 
buttons on the case.

 

You didn't say exactly what kind of case. But that is where the mute switch is 
located. On iPhone 15's that is a button. On all previous models, it is a 
switch/lever that when pushed jtoward the back, mutes the tones, and when push 
toward the screen unmutes. 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

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On Nov 30, 2023, at 2:28 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca   
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Hi all I just got a I phone 14 and am charging it as I speek. I have a question 
about one of the buttons on the case. It is round and looks like the old 
hedphone jackit is small and it is above the buttons for volume up and down. 
What does that button do? From Mich.

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I just got a new i phone 14 and have one questiona bout one of the buttons on the case.

[michv]

Hi all I just got a I phone 14 and am charging it as I speek. I have a
question about one of the buttons on the case. It is round and looks like
the old hedphone jackit is small and it is above the buttons for volume up
and down. What does that button do? From Mich.

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preparing to get a new i phone and am going to go with i phone 14 prow how to tern on voice over on this phone?

[michv]

Hi all I am preparing to get a new I phone next week. My old I phone 8 is
still working but it is time for a upgrade. I am going to get a I phone 14
prose and am going to do the updates and set up from I cloud back up my
self. My question is how to tern on voice over on this phone? I know it is a
3 click on the button but am not shure witch. Also this is the first I phone
that I have with out a home button at least not one that you can feel. Any
tips? Many thanks. From Mich.

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RE: Question about iCloud

[michv]

Hi I clowd is found under settings and then your name click on your name and 
then swipe right until you see I clowd and click on it. You will see things 
like I clowd back up and it will say if it is on or off. Hth. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: October 30, 2023 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about iCloud

 

Hello,

 

I am confused about that. Do I have iCloud in my iPhone, or should I install it 
if I want to have it?

I only find iCloud in my phone when I open the Notes app: iCloud and Gmail.

Please, explain.

 

Rena 

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RE: Manually connecting to Vesyn

[michv]

Hi you need sighted assistance to connect to your whyfie network. Once you do 
that the app is accessible. From Mich.

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Duncan
Sent: October 17, 2023 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Manually connecting to Vesyn

Hi all, I am trying to connect my air fryer to vesync iOs app. I cannot figure 
out how to manually add my wifi network.

Any tips here are much appreciated.

Thanks,
Traci

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RE: Is Patreon accessible on the iPhone?

[michv]

Hi yes it is vo reads all page elliments. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: October 5, 2023 11:33 AM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Is Patreon accessible on the iPhone?

Hi all,
Subject pretty much says it all. I’m thinking about joining somebody’s Patreon. 
My experience with it in the past was not very good, but that was sometime ago. 
So I wonder has anybody been using it lately, and how accessible is it?
Mary

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RE: Taking a Screen Shot

[michv]

Hi Lisa I would like toknow the answer to this question as well. Can't you just 
ask seri though to take a screen shot? I would like to know the answer though 
since the 14 pro is the phone that I am looking to get when I can finly 
upgrade. From Mich.

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Belville
Sent: September 27, 2023 6:33 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Taking a Screen Shot

Hi, all.


I need a memory refresher.  How do you take a screen shot with the 14 pro 
model?  I thought it was volume up and then an immediate press of the power 
button, but this doesn't seem to work.


TIA


Lisa


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RE: Pro vs Max

[michv]

Hi I have not upgraded yet eather. my ishu is what I should choose since I am 
running a I phone 8 and my carrier tellus has I phones for 0 dollors up frunt 
but of korce you have to pay the taxes. I have herd that the I phone 14 prow is 
151 for taxes. What do people sugest that I get? I have always gotten a case 
with mine as well. From Mich. From New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: September 24, 2023 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pro vs Max

I haven't upgraded yet, although am considering the Pro or Max. My concern is 
the Max will be too big to fit in a standard  shirt pocket. I hate to haul 
around a case or belt  pouch. For any of you who use the Max, does it fit into 
a shirt pocket? I guess I'll find out when I go to buy a phone.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro vs Max

I was doing the same thing until I decided to upgrade to the 15 Pro. I so wish 
that they would make a smart battery case for these phones.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2023, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> You made me laugh out loud, Andy.  Thank you so much.
> 
> I have more than a few appliances about which I feel the exact same way, as 
> you.
> 
> With a big smile,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 2:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
> 
> I still have the one i bought with my old iPhone 8 and it still works with 
> the SE 3rd Gen. and you will have to pry it out of my cold dead fingers.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Julian" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
> 
> 
> I really wish Apple would bring back the smart battery case. It is one 
> of the accessories I really miss. When I used one of those cases, I 
> never had to worry about charging throughout the day when I was out and about.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Robert Stigile 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am sure those numbers are with basic use!
>> I am lucky to get ten hours with my 14 pro max when using oko aira 
>> zoom texting email and calling during the day!
>> Maybe they should have us test the battery with that use and then 
>> they can put their numbers out!
>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President National Federation of the 
>> Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter
>> 818-381-9568
>> Kn6uvd
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2023, at 12:13 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 15 Plus: 23 hours
>>> 15 Pro: 26 hours
>>> 15 Max: 29 hours
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: lenron brown 
>>> Date: 09/24/2023 11:20 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Pro vs Max
>>> 
>>> Hm I don't even get 2 days with my max. When I got it I got about 16 
>>> to 18 hours, but now I still can get through 12 or 14 depending on 
>>> what I am doing. Once you really start to break these phones in the 
>>> battery doesn't last as long because your doing everything on it. I 
>>> read I watch youtube, and do a bit of social media. Along with my 
>>> banking and gps. So I am never complaining about more battery life.
> On 9/24/23, Anna Dresner  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I got an iPhone 14 Pro this past summer. I don't use the battery as 
 heavily as some of you, but I routinely get two days on one charge, 
 so I think the odds are good it would last through a whole day if I 
 did use the GPS extensively for a day. I'm not doubting that the 
 battery life on the Max is better, just saying it's surprisingly 
 good on the regular Pro as well.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 8:09 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I can't remember the numbers, but the battery life for the plus is 
> not like the battery life for the promax. My problem with the 
> promax, aside from the price, is the screen size. I can't imagine 
> holding this thing in one hand and actually doing stuff on the 
> screen like I do with my 10 R.
> So
> I think the big screens are not good for me. And it looks like 
> according to rumors, next year's Apple phones are going to be 
> bigger than this year's. I have an iPad mini. I don't need another 
> one.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kelly,
>> 
>> Like Robert stated, the larger models get much, much better 
>> battery life.
>> 
>> Before purchasing my beloved 14 Pro Max, I always carried a 
>> charging cable with me, when out for a day.  With the Pro Max, I 
>> never, ever worry about running out of power in a day, even when 
>> 

RE: Are there really advantages to LiDAR?

[michv]

Hi I am in a simmiler situation as you. I need to get a new phone I am running 
the I phone 8 and am thinking of getting the I phone pro 14 for the lidar 
feature and would like toknow what this does for us as blind people? I know 
about the door detection from Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: September 20, 2023 4:58 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Are there really advantages to LiDAR?

My question sort of sums it up. I’m thinking about getting a new phone, 
although I could wait one more year, since this one is eligible for an upgrade 
this year. If I do get a new phone, I am contemplating whether it’s worth it to 
go for the pro because of lied AR. There was a lot of hype around it when it 
came out, and I haven’t heard much cents. What does it do for us in particular 
as blind people? I could care less about taking pictures except for the 
purposes of getting descriptions, texts, etc. In other words, regular 
photography interests me not one wit.
Mary


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RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

[michv]

Hi did you re start your phone after updateing your phone? From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Pinder
Sent: September 20, 2023 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

 

Hi All

 

I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions? 

Thanks a lot.

 

Best wishes

 

Paula

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RE: iOS17 text tones

[michv]

Hi ok out of all those text tones the ones that I could barrly hear are droplit 
and antick. From Mich. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: September 17, 2023 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS17 text tones

 

Thanks they suck the one that sucks the most is the main system notification 
tone.  It is barely audible.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
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Subject: iOS17 text tones

 

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RE: iOs and Cosori air fryer

[michv]

Yes it works quite well. From Mich.

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Duncan
Sent: September 12, 2023 1:40 PM
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Subject: Re: iOs and Cosori air fryer

Did you like Vesync with your iPhone?



> On Sep 12, 2023, at 10:21 AM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> Th vysinc app will work with Alexa from Mich 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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>> 
>> Hi all, I have the wifi model of Cosori air fryer. It looks like there are 
>> 2 apps for this device. Do you recommend Cosori's app or Vesync? I wanted to 
>> connect the air fryer to Alexa. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

[michv]

Hi I have herd of the ring doorbell system but have not used it persenaly. As 
far as the I phone 8 you doknow that it wonte be able to support ios 17 when it 
comes out next month. From Mich.

 

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sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: August 23, 2023 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

Thanks to all for letting me know I can’t get screen recognition on my IPhone 
8.  I don’t think it would solve my problem with the intercom app anyway as the 
app won’t work with voice over on.  I probably need to get a more current phone 
but hate to buy something new when my IPhone 8 is working perfectly well.

 

Has anyone used the Ring Doorbell system?  I’d hate to recommend it only to 
have it not work either.

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mo 
Khan
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 7:28 AM
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Subject: Re: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

hi how about the ring door bell system?

 

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 9:50 PM mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> > 
wrote:

Hi if you have a I phone 8 I don’t think it is on there I think you would need 
a new phone since I also have the same phone and don’t have this feture on my 
phone. From Mich.

 

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Sent: August 22, 2023 3:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

I am definitely talking to my apartment management & their IT person.

 

Meanwhile, I do not have screen recognition turned on.  I’m not sure it will 
help as it seems I have to have voice over off before the intercom app will 
open once I’ve answered the phone.  I’d like to try it though.  Where can I 
find it to turn it on?  I looked through accessibility & didn’t find it.  I did 
a search for screen recognition under settings & it sent me to quick settings 
voice over.  I didn’t find it there either.  I am using an IPhone 8 with 
current IOS, 16.6.  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 12:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

Have you tried to turn on screen recognition to see if that helps with the app?

You should also tell your apartment management they should put pressure on the 
developer to make the app more accessible, you can also contact them yourself, 
but it wouldn't hurt if they did as well. Hopefully the developer is receptive 
and willing to do this.

As for suggesting another app that really is not possible if you don't know the 
system and what works with it. I would request a meeting with whoever is in 
charge of this type of stuff from your management company to discuss and 
explore options.

 

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Subject: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

Hello,

 

My apartment management recently switched to a new app for use with our 
intercom system.  With the old app, a person would punch in your apartment 
number, your phone would ring, you would answer & see who it was then press 9 
to trigger the door to unlock.  Apparently this system was quite old & I am 
told they could not enter any new numbers into the system.  The new app, called 
AIPHONE IXG, is not accessible.  It only gets a 2 star rating so am not sure 
why they chose it.  In order to use it, I have to turn voice over off.  Luckily 
I can see enough to hit the answer phone button.  Then I have to tap on 2 more 
things then slide a door icon over to trigger the door to unlock.  I cannot see 
well enough to tap on the 2 places needed to get to the door icon.  Does anyone 
know of an accessible intercom app I can suggest to management?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

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RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

[michv]

Hi if you have a I phone 8 I don’t think it is on there I think you would need 
a new phone since I also have the same phone and don’t have this feture on my 
phone. From Mich.

 

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Sent: August 22, 2023 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

I am definitely talking to my apartment management & their IT person.

 

Meanwhile, I do not have screen recognition turned on.  I’m not sure it will 
help as it seems I have to have voice over off before the intercom app will 
open once I’ve answered the phone.  I’d like to try it though.  Where can I 
find it to turn it on?  I looked through accessibility & didn’t find it.  I did 
a search for screen recognition under settings & it sent me to quick settings 
voice over.  I didn’t find it there either.  I am using an IPhone 8 with 
current IOS, 16.6.  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

Have you tried to turn on screen recognition to see if that helps with the app?

You should also tell your apartment management they should put pressure on the 
developer to make the app more accessible, you can also contact them yourself, 
but it wouldn't hurt if they did as well. Hopefully the developer is receptive 
and willing to do this.

As for suggesting another app that really is not possible if you don't know the 
system and what works with it. I would request a meeting with whoever is in 
charge of this type of stuff from your management company to discuss and 
explore options.

 

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To: 'VIPhone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Need Accessible App for Apartment Intercom System

 

Hello,

 

My apartment management recently switched to a new app for use with our 
intercom system.  With the old app, a person would punch in your apartment 
number, your phone would ring, you would answer & see who it was then press 9 
to trigger the door to unlock.  Apparently this system was quite old & I am 
told they could not enter any new numbers into the system.  The new app, called 
AIPHONE IXG, is not accessible.  It only gets a 2 star rating so am not sure 
why they chose it.  In order to use it, I have to turn voice over off.  Luckily 
I can see enough to hit the answer phone button.  Then I have to tap on 2 more 
things then slide a door icon over to trigger the door to unlock.  I cannot see 
well enough to tap on the 2 places needed to get to the door icon.  Does anyone 
know of an accessible intercom app I can suggest to management?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

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RE: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

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Hi yes I am running the latest update on a I phone 8. And I have found this. 
From Mich.

 

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Subject: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

 

Hi all 

 

iPhone XR and iPad 6gen 

 

Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently. 

 

No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not to the 
point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such behavior 
running 16.6 

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RE: App for CPAP?

[michv]

Hi no tap water is not used to fill your cpap since it causes a film to 
iclumulate and it is not good to use. It is advisableto use filtered water. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of ivan 
harold
Sent: August 19, 2023 2:07 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: App for CPAP?

 

Not advisable though

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 1:55:44 AM UTC+8 Mohammad Fazil wrote:

Can I use tap water for CPAP?

Thanks!

 

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Subject: RE: App for CPAP?

 

I just downloaded the ResMed app. This is  from limited experience. It seems 
the app doesn’t control my ResMed CPAP device. It seems to do the  following:

*   Link to  existing Web-based sleep records showing records of hours 
slept with the CPAP in operation.
*   Display results of  what may be a scoring system for quality of sleep, 
sleep apnea events each hour, and  reports of mask leaks. (Evidently the ResMed 
devices, MyAir 10 and above, report  this information and it’s placed on the 
Web and password protected.)
*   Present video tutorials to help the user have a better experience.

 

As I work with the app, I’ll report further.

 

Richard Petty

richar...@earthlink.net  

 

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Hi I use the ResMed app called My Air.

Jen

 

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Hi, Group.

Is there a CPAP with an App that a blind person using without a sighted 
assistance?

Thanks!

 

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RE: My Favorite KINDLE APP FEATURE AND A BOOK RECOMMENDATION

[michv]

Hi I think the keystroke is control t or alt t I used to use this quite a bit 
but found that since kindle books now have screen reader support I am not shure 
if this still works or not. From Mich.

 

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Sent: August 14, 2023 4:11 PM
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How does this feature work?

 

Vicki

 

- Original Message - 

From: M. Taylor   

To: VIPhone   

Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 10:12 PM

Subject: My Favorite KINDLE APP FEATURE AND A BOOK RECOMMENDATION

 

Hello All,

I think I’ve mentioned this in a previous post but one aspect of Kindle books 
that I have been using more and more, is the feature to seamlessly switch 
between the live narration of a title and the text of that same title, directly 
from within the Kindle app.

If you have not yet explored this feature of the Kindle app, give it a try.  I 
think you will be pleased.

I recently started reading one of Stephen King’s latest novels called Fairy 
Tale.  This is not a horror story.  If anything, it is a fairy tale for adults. 
 

I strongly recommend that you give this book a try because never in my adult 
life have I ever come across a mainstream story in which people with real-life 
disabilities are portrayed in such heroic and equal measure as their 
non-disabled counterparts.  

I am about 50% through the story.  Up to this point, other than some slight 
profanity, there are no descriptions of sex or any quote, adult, quote, content.

There is a long history as to why Stephen King possesses the ability to write 
about people with disabilities in such exciting and yet realistic pros but I’ll 
let you discover the answer to that, on your own, if you so choose.

It is so very refreshing to become immersed in a story where people with 
disabilities are treated as equals and not as people who have super human 
powers who can, for example, in the case of a blind person, distinguish someone 
across a room by the rhythm of his heartbeat and respiration rate.  I’ve 
actually had highly educated professionals, ask me if such a thing is true 
based on something they read about on the net or saw in some movie.

Regardless of whatever book you choose, happy reading.

Mark

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RE: App for CPAP?

[michv]

Hi Garry and all. My breathing stopt 74 times when I did the sleep study. I use 
the F Sleep style. And I am wondering what is the sa surgery? From Mich.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gary Ray
Sent: August 13, 2023 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App for CPAP?

 

Gary Ray here.

 

I was diagnosed with severe sa.  My breathing stopped about 60 times per hour 
when I had the sleep study.

 

I did ask the doctored about sleeping without the machine.

 

They preferred that I take the machine with me whenever I traveled but it is a 
pain.

 

When I pressed the doctor, I was told that I should use my best judgement but I 
should try to use it all the time.

 

I had such a tussle getting used to the mask that my sleep study folks have 
referred me for the Inspire sa surgery.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: App for CPAP?

 

I agree with Richard.  Even if I had a guess I wouldn’t answer.  For the record 
I have no idea.

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: App for CPAP?

 

That is a question for your doctor. Since we do not know anything about the 
severity of your sleep apnea,  it would be unwise to advise you.

 

 

Richard, USA 

——

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley

(Sent from my iPhone)

 

On Aug 12, 2023, at 9:17 PM, Mohammad Fazil mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 If I started using cpap once, can I sleep without it if one is not available? 

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Aug 12, 2023, at 9:06 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 I'm not sure which model I have, but the app cannot adjust the  humidity 
settings. Aybe, assuming it is wi-fi connected, maybe they can adjust it 
remotely. 

 

 

Richard, USA 

——

"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley

(Sent from my iPhone)

 

On Aug 12, 2023, at 8:10 PM, Debbie Downey mailto:debdow...@tampabay.rr.com> > wrote:

 

HI Jen,

 

What model of ResMed do you have? I got a ResMed S11 back in April and the 
coach who came to my house never told me about an app. He probably didn’t think 
a blind person could use it. I think the humidity is set too high because it 
gets wet inside to where it will drip into my nose but I don’t know how to turn 
it down other than to call them out here again. So, if you have the same model 
that I do then I will look into this further! More info than you wanted I’m 
sure.

 

Thank you!

 

Debbie 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: App for CPAP?

 

Hi I use the ResMed app called My Air.

Jen

 

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Hi, Group.

Is there a CPAP with an App that a blind person using without a sighted 
assistance?

Thanks!

 

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RE: accessible air fryer

[michv]

The fryer has a touch screen there are no nobs or buttons. Using it with the 
app is the best idea. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: July 14, 2023 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible air fryer

 

Can you use it without the app? I have a friend who has no A-lady who has some 
vision. Does the fryer have a touch screen or knobs/buttons?

Thank you.

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From: mi...@eastlink.ca   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 7:59 AM

Subject: RE: accessible air fryer

 

Hi the Casori air fryer is accessible and the app you need is VesYnc it works 
with Voice Over and I used it all the time before the fryer was recalld and I 
am wateing for a new one. From Mich btw the app also works with google home and 
I think alexa but I don’t have a alexa. From Mich.

 

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Dennis Long
Sent: July 14, 2023 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: accessible air fryer

 

Hi, is there air fryers that are accessible that allow you to use an app to 
control them? Has anyone done a demo on them?  Yes I would want it accessible 
with voiceover.

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RE: accessible air fryer

[michv]

Hi the Casori air fryer is accessible and the app you need is VesYnc it works 
with Voice Over and I used it all the time before the fryer was recalld and I 
am wateing for a new one. From Mich btw the app also works with google home and 
I think alexa but I don’t have a alexa. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: July 14, 2023 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: accessible air fryer

 

Hi, is there air fryers that are accessible that allow you to use an app to 
control them? Has anyone done a demo on them?  Yes I would want it accessible 
with voiceover.

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RE: VoiceOver Announcing Letters Weirdly

[michv]

Hi yes I had this ishu yesterday. It was announcing the letters weardly and as 
well as the numbers since I was getting those same strainge coads when trying 
to enter my password. I was having the same problem as you where. Something in 
the latest update is for shure messed up. After spending almost a day with 
apple accessibillidey the letters are fine as well as the numbers but the pass 
coad field is not the same it is like the numbers are all in a row and not like 
akeypad on the phone. Also all this happened after upgradeing to the latest 
update. Also Samantha was the voice and not alex infact when I tried to select 
alex as a voice it wasn't coming up and I was getting those weard letters and 
simbles when swipeing around on the screen. After eraceing the phone and 
restoring it from a I clowd backup twice vo is now saying home a lot where it 
shouldn't and it is just messed up. I am going to hear back from Apple on 
thirsday after they can try to reperduce the ishues. So it is not just you. 
From Mich. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon 
Olivares
Sent: June 25, 2023 6:05 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: VoiceOver Announcing Letters Weirdly

OK apparently the Alex voice is corrupted. Is anyone else having this issue? 
When I enable Alex on her phone, it speaks in Samantha’s voice and a lot of 
things are just messed up. When I read character-by-character it just says 
random codes.

> On Jun 25, 2023, at 5:12 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My wife just got the iPhone 14, and now voiceOver is pronouncing letters on 
> the keyboard very strangely. I don’t even know how to describe it, I hear 
> something about   and some weird codes. It’s making it so she can’t 
> type.
> 
> Any idea what this is or how to fix it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon

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RE: VoiceOver Announcing Letters Weirdly

[michv]

Hello yes this happened to me yesterday the hole   and some weird codes 
the pass coad keyboard was like that and also like you said alex was not coming 
up on my phone as far aswhen you select him and Samantha voice was coming up. 
When swipeing through the voices it was also reading those strainge coads under 
speech and voice section of accessibillidey. And all this started after 
upgradeing to the latest update. It is working now but I had to spend a hole 
day on the phone with apple accessibillidey to make it work nad they also 
wanted a screen recording and analiticks. After eraceing my phone and restoring 
it from a backup vo is saying the word home a lot as well. So it is not just 
you. The updae messed up something for shure. From Mich. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: June 25, 2023 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver Announcing Letters Weirdly

I can’t help with the Alex voice, but there’s definitely some weird stuff going 
on with the latest version of 16 wit typing mode set to touch typing and either 
autocorrect and check spelling turned on.

> On 25 Jun 2023, at 23:04, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
> OK apparently the Alex voice is corrupted. Is anyone else having this issue? 
> When I enable Alex on her phone, it speaks in Samantha’s voice and a lot of 
> things are just messed up. When I read character-by-character it just says 
> random codes.
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2023, at 5:12 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> My wife just got the iPhone 14, and now voiceOver is pronouncing letters on 
>> the keyboard very strangely. I don’t even know how to describe it, I hear 
>> something about   and some weird codes. It’s making it so she can’t 
>> type.
>> 
>> Any idea what this is or how to fix it?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Brandon
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[michv]

Yes I will agree with this and to bring along a hot woman at that price as well 
hee. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
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I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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RE: series of notes on mastodon and accessibility

[michv]

Hi wile this is all well and interesting why is there 2 coppies of every single 
message in this thred? It is kindof annoying to try to read this when jaws 
keeps on repeating eery single message twice and thisis wile using the read all 
command and arrowing through with the arrow keys. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mo Khan
Sent: June 9, 2023 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: series of notes on mastodon and accessibility

 

What follows is a series of Mastodon posts from Pratik Patel. He discusses not 
only the announcements from the WWDC keynote but he also documents his 
impressions of the first developer beta of iOS 17.
Original Source
  Pratik Patel: Once #WWDC23 goes live, I'll have my usual thread of 
#accessibility related content here. I used to do this on Twitter. It involves 
discussing the announcements as well as testing of features announced prior to 
and throughout WWDC. I will welcome questions and requests for testing. I think 
I'll like doing this here much more  than I did on Twitter. Oh and this thread 
will probably go on for months. I'll post things periodically as updates come.
#WWDC2023, 5 days ago, Mastodon
Pratik Patel: Once #WWDC23 goes live, I'll have my usual thread of 
#accessibility related content here. I used to do this on Twitter. It involves 
discussing the announcements as well as testing of features announced prior to 
and throughout WWDC. I will welcome questions and requests for testing. I think 
I'll like doing this here much more  than I did on Twitter. Oh and this thread 
will probably go on for months. I'll post things periodically as updates come.
#WWDC2023, 5 days ago, Mastodon
1 of 31
Pratik Patel: Before we go on to discuss #WWDC and Apple #accessibility on this 
thread, as is my usual annual practice, here's a reminder that you should not 
install beta software on your primary devices. Wait for public betas or actual 
releases. They're apt to break major functionality. And, despite all the latest 
consternation about Apple not fixing long-standing bugs, I do encourage you to 
report them if you install a beta. They do fix them. The more reports there 
are, the more info they have.
#WWDC23,
2 of 31
  Pratik Patel: Before we go on to discuss #WWDC and Apple #accessibility 
on this thread, as is my usual annual practice, here's a reminder that you 
should not install beta software on your primary devices. Wait for public betas 
or actual releases. They're apt to break major functionality. And, despite all 
the latest consternation about Apple not fixing long-standing bugs, I do 
encourage you to report them if you install a beta. They do fix them. The more 
reports there are, the more info they have.
#WWDC23, 1 day ago, Mastodon
  Pratik Patel: I know you want to try the latest  and the greatest. But 
you also want to be completely sure that what you need day-to-day will work on 
your device. So be absolutely sure that you're not going to need your phone, or 
your iPad for important work or something else. You'll here me talk about 
possible bugs and behaviors along with testing notes on this thread. Being a 
rather technical user, I know how to get out of situations  that I put myself 
in.
So, Just be careful!
#WWDC #WWDC23 #Accessibility, 1 day ago, Mastodon
Pratik Patel: I know you want to try the latest  and the greatest. But you also 
want to be completely sure that what you need day-to-day will work on your 
device. So be absolutely sure that you're not going to need your phone, or your 
iPad for important work or something else. You'll here me talk about possible 
bugs and behaviors along with testing notes on this thread. Being a rather 
technical user, I know how to get out of situations  that I put myself in.
So, Just be careful!
#WWDC #WWDC23 #Accessibil
3 of 31
  Pratik Patel: Oh, and don't expect me to live-toot or something like 
that. I might occasionally pop-in and say something that interests me about 
#WWDC. A lot of #accessibility announcements have been prebaked when Apple 
announced all the major changes and features coming to their operating systems 
in May. If I see something that will impact accessibility, I'll note it during 
the keynote or, if I think of it, after the keynote.
#WWDC23, 1 day ago, Mastodon
Pratik Patel: Oh, and don't expect me to live-toot or something like that. I 
might occasionally pop-in and say something that interests me about #WWDC. A 
lot of #accessibility announcements have been prebaked when Apple announced all 
the major changes and features coming to their operating systems in May. If I 
see something that will impact accessibility, I'll note it during the keynote 
or, if I think of it, after the keynote.
#WWDC23, 1 day ago, Mastodon
4 of 31
  Pratik Patel: Having flexible gesture based controls  could be much more 
useful disabled people with motor and/or some physical disabilities. As game 
controllers and other devices such as bluetooth 

RE: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

[michv]

Hi I have herd of a talking bred maker that once exzisted but I have not seen 
it my self. I would like to know this as well though. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: May 1, 2023 2:59 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

 

Hi all,

 

Do any of you use or are you aware of any bread makers that are accessible 
using bluetooth/wifi?  If so, what brands/models?

 

Also, other than smart machines do any of you use bread makers that are 
physically accessible using buttons/knobs/dials etc?

 

Thanks.

 

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RE: Discord iOS app

[michv]

Hi all I also would like toknow this as well. I have tried to use this on the 
desktop on my pc and found it confusing and the same go’s for the ios app. From 
Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: March 22, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Discord iOS app

 

Hi all. Can anyone point me toward a guide or tutorial for using Discordon my 
iPhone running iOS 16.3.1? I just downloaded the app a few days ago.

 

Warm regards, 

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RE: Looking for accessible GPS App

[michv]

Hi you could try near by explorer or for squair from Mich.

-Original Message-
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Stimmel
Sent: March 15, 2023 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for accessible GPS App

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, is there an accessible GPS App that I could use with my 
iPhone?


It doesn't matter so much if it is free, or if I have to pay for it.


I am looking for something that can show me what is around.

But also, a way to know where possible sidewalks are. But I am uncertain 
as to whether or not such a thing exists.


I am wanting to be able to walk to the rec center that is only about a 
4th of a mile from my home.

However, I don't know if this is even possible.


Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS

[michv]

Hi no it is not gone as far as the subscription bug now when you swipe right vo 
reads the subscriptions but you can’t swipe left since vo will continu to read 
the subscription again and again and again so if you have 3 subscriptions vo 
will only read the first one in the list and nothing changes when you choose 
the picker and choose things like date I am using a I phone 8. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CrazyEyez
Sent: March 2, 2023 2:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage 
subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for 
VIPS

 

Hello, 

 

The bug appears to have been squished.

>From my understanding it had something to do with apple servers and not the 
>IOS itself.

 

Currently as of this writing, I can open app store, tap my account, 
subscriptions and they display correctly.

I'm on an iPhone 14 plus running IOS 16.3.1.

 

Also good luck with your call tonight. 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 2, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Ellie Hopper mailto:hopper...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi,

 

I have a call booked for this evening with someone from Apple's support team to 
talk about this. I haven't gone this rout for an issue before so wish me luck.

 

Ellie

 

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jessica Dail mailto:jldai...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hi,

This screen is read correctly with voiceover on my iPhone 13 pro max which is 
running the ios16.4 developer beta but on my iPad pro 11-inch 3rd generation, 
this screen is still broken. I’m not on the beta on my ipad, but am seriously 
considering changing that.

Can anyone else on here who has an iPad confirm the same behavior?

Thanks,

Jessica Dail

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 4:52 AM
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subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for 
VIPS

 

It is fixed for me,  also.

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3


On Mar 2, 2023, at 12:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

This has been fixed at least for me as of just now (9:30 PM Pacific Time).

My subscriptions read again perfectly with when they expire/renew etc.

This is not iOS dependent since as Davy reported, this was happening on iOS 15, 
the public release version of iOS 16 as well as the Beta.

When I checked it tonight it already worked for me before I upgraded to iOS 
16.4 public beta 2 and it still is fine after the update.

 

 

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William James
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subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for 
VIPS

 

It is still present on iOS 16.4 Beta 2.  Definitely not directly related to iOS.

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS  


  _  


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Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage 
subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for 
VIPS 

 

I received a reply from Apple Accessibility this morning which states that they 
are aware of the issue and they are investigating.
I assume this may have had something to do with the App Store and certain App 
Store changes have always been done on the backend and they are not necessarily 
connected to iOS itself which would explain why this is happening with iOS 15, 
iOS 16.3 as well as iOS 16.4 public beta.
I would think this is something which Apple will fix sooner rather than later.
As for using screen recognition this still does not work for me even if I wait 
10 seconds or 20 seconds, I have backed out of subscriptions after turning it 
on and gone back and it does not give me anything except what I also see 
without screen recognition.

-Original Message-
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davycupp...@gmail.com  
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subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for 
VIPS

Thats not 100% right, the apps for 

RE: New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ...

[michv]

Hi when I looked at this link I got a page not found message. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: February 27, 2023 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New clean energy charging feature on iPhones ...

 

Just read this news story. As it notes, my iPhone SE 2020 had the clean energy 
setting turned on, so I turned it off. I’m usually in a hurry to charge my 
phone, so I don’t want anything to slow it down.

 

New clean energy charging feature on iPhones raising eyebrows among some users 

https://www.denver7.com/decodedc/technology/new-clean-energy-charging-feature-on-iphones-raising-eyebrows-among-some-users

 

Robin in Colorado

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RE: screen curtain

[michv]

Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern 
on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap?

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Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

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Bell
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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RE: Looking for GPS with Intersection Description

[michv]

Hi have you tried  seeing eye explorer? Or there is another app cald good maps 
that might do the things you are wanting. From Mich.

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Sent: February 18, 2023 4:28 PM
To: V I Phone ; iDevices 
Subject: Looking for GPS with Intersection Description

Hi, all.


I'm using an iPhone 12 Pro and iOS 16.2.


I'm looking for a GPS app that gives good descriptions of intersections, 
including distance to the intersection.  Today I tried Lazarillo, and 
while it's reasonably accurate, it will announce an approaching 
intersection at least 150 feet away from the actual crossing.  It also 
doesn't indicate what type of intersection I'm approaching.


I'm exploring a new neighborhood without much traffic or pedestrians, so 
this information would be good to have.  Is there a GPS that will do 
this that works well with VO?


TIA,


Lisa


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RE: Ciri Responding Oddly When Asked to Call Someone

[michv]

Hi yes I am also getting this same request when I want to call some one. From 
Mich.

 

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hoxha
Sent: February 11, 2023 12:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ciri Responding Oddly When Asked to Call Someone

 

 

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Subject: Ciri Responding Oddly When Asked to Call Someone 

 

Hello,

 

I have an IPhone 8 & am current on IOS.  Ever since updating IOS, I frequently 
get an odd response when I ask Ciri to call someone in my contacts list.  I 
will say call person X & she will say what do you want to know about person X.  
This may happen several times before I give up & open the contact to tap on the 
phone # to call them.  Even funnier, I have a sister-in-law named Mickie who is 
on my VIP contact list & is my ICE contact.  Today when I asked Ciri to call 
her I got a web site telling me who Mickey Mouse was.  This happened a couple 
of times.  I obviously have tried speaking very clearly to no avail.  It is not 
the end of the world to have to open the contacts to make a call but I’d rather 
have the convenience of just saying call person.  Is anyone else having this 
problem?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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just wondering if anyone has had nay luck with the dateing app blind lee?

[michv]

Hi all I am just wondering if any one has had any luck with the dateing app
BlindLee? It suposibley only gives out your age and first name to a caller
and it is like speed dateing with video and voice and not just picks. I have
tried it and the only thing that happens when I try to call some one they
say that they are struggeling to find users in my airea. But when I get
notifications they always say that there is a lot of actividey on the app. I
just was wondering if any one has had any luck or if you are all getting
these message. From Mich.

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RE: NaviLens code pilot project is coming to a numbrer of public transit stops in Vancouver

[michv]

Glad to see this is coming to Canada. Hear’s hopeing that it comes to Ontario 
as well. From Mich.

 

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Weitzel
Sent: January 12, 2023 1:10 PM
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Subject: NaviLens code pilot project is coming to a numbrer of public transit 
stops in Vancouver

 

Hi,

 

If you live in Vancouver (that is the one in Canada, not Washington State) you 
can soon test out NaviLens codes installed on a number of public transit stops. 
Here is the article headline followed by the link:

 

TransLink is set to install 10 NaviLens codes at New Westminster SkyTrain 
Station bus bays, four near the Canadian National Institute for the Bind, and 
two near the Vancouver Community College campus on East Broadway

 

TransLink to pilot coded decals at bus stops for blind riders 

 

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Apple Watch Question

[michv]

Hi I would also like to know how to do this if I need to since I also have a 
apple watch searies 6 and have found the eac or ekg or what ever it is cald. 
From Mich.

 

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Weitzel
Sent: January 10, 2023 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch Question

 

I am wondering this as well because I just did an EEC and apart from telling me 
to put my finger on the digital crown there was nothing else and doing a 
2-finger double tap on my Apple Watch, I think it's a series 6) did nothing.

 

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rick.alf...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Watch Question

 

Hi Richard. Is this new for the series 8 watches? I have a series 7 and it does 
nothing here at all. Curious.

 

 

 

 

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---Rick Alfaro

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Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Watch Question

 

It is the same as on the phone, two finger double tap.

 

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 8:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Apple Watch Question

 

Hi All,

I was taking my heart rate with the ECG app. I was asked to perform a Magic tap 
to activate live audio. How does one perform a magic tap on the watch? Thanks.

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RE: Apple watch group

[michv]

Hi. Try subing to this group.
applewatchuncomplicated+subscr...@groups.io
There is also
watchosblindusersgr...@groups.io
>From Mich. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
Sent: January 8, 2023 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple watch group

Hi,

I took the plunge and got a refurbished series 7.  I’ve listened to all the 
videos on Apple Vis and a good many videos on YouTube but I need access to more 
info.  I know others asked about an Apple Watch user group but I can’t find the 
answers.  I sure would appreciate if someone could let me know how to find/join 
them.


Thanks,


Kim

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RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[michv]

I have gone whierless in the sence that I have apple air pods and the reason 
why I got them was onishinaly to use MS. Soundskape but now that they are 
making soundscape oapin scores I do use them to listen to music but not while I 
am out and about since I need my ears free to listen for traffic etc. from Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: January 8, 2023 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

I have to agree with Sieghard. I have the best success with wired Apple Earpods 
and consider them the best value of any earbuds I've consistently used. I have 
some second generation wireless Apple Airpods and while they're ok for 
listening to content, they mess up whenever I receive a phone call. And I still 
use my iPhone 13 Mini as a phone although it seems the phone app performs 
inconsistently when using Voiceover. I don't know if the issue is the 
microphone in the Airpods but I get the most consistent performance with the 
wired Apple Earpods. 

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

I'd take a set of Airpods maybe if somebody gave them to me along with $20.
I hate having anything stuck inside my ear further than the wired Earpods, they 
happen to fit me great and I don't even have to push them in hard and they just 
stay in place.
I also wouldn't be caught dead spending the kind of money on two little things 
which only last 5 or 6 hours and which I am bound to loose sooner or later.
Now keep in mind that this is strictly my take, I know many of  you love them 
and that's fine, then of course if I did spend the money on them I'd also say I 
love them.
As for wearing something in bed when you most likely will fall asleep there is 
nothing better than those sleep headbands which have a set of very thin 
speakers on each side over your ear and a little control pod on  your forehead 
with 3 buttons for volume up/down and play/pause in the middle. Of course if 
you want to fall asleep to high fidelty music then these are not the right 
thing, but they are fine for audio books or, if you are into those sleep 
sounds, that would probably be just fine, but they are the most comfortable 
thing and I usually sleep on my side so I definitely know and I often wake up 
in the middle of the night with my Audible book happily playing and I then 
usually stop it, pull them off my head and thrown them on the side table. You 
can find them on Amazon, just make sure you do look for wireless ones because 
the original ones do have a 3.5mm cable and that of course is sucks. I think I 
paid around $30 Canadian for mine about 2 or 3 years ago and they still work 
great.
I also have an Aftershokz Open Com which I use in certain situations and 
another Bluetooth gadget I have is one of these around the neck speakers, they 
consist of a thick and relatively soft rubbery cable about as thick as your 
thumb and one each end is a speaker, one has the typical buttons to turn it 
on/off and for play/pause and volume up/down. I quite like using them at home 
when I am out in the summer in the garden or even while cooking, your audio is 
right there more or less in front of your shoulders and you can easily reach up 
and pause or change the volume.for cert But I just bought a new set of 
Lightning Earpods because they are still my preferred headset, there is no lag 
and for $24.99 Canadian I get surprisingly good sounding earbuds. I probably go 
through a pair a year, sometimes a bit longer, but as I said, inexpensive, good 
and when I don't need them I roll them up around my hand and stick them into my 
pocket.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hello All,

I have long been a fan of Apple wired Ear Pods.  

I had to have my original beloved 8 Plus replaced, about a month prior to its 
warranty expiration because the audio function of the Lightening port went bad.

For the last 6-months or so, perhaps longer, while the Lightening port on my 
replacement 8 Plus still functioned as expected, it lost the ability to retain 
a cable, unassisted.  This is to say, when I hold the phone in portrait mode, 
perpendicular to the ground, any attached cable will fall out.  

I am certain that I was the blame for this as I used to frequently roll onto 
the phone, when sleeping; very often tangling  the cable with tension for hours 
at a time.  (How's that for too much information? (smile)).

My point, I am determined not to ruin the Lightening port on my 14.

With that in mind, I am doing my best to wing myself from the wired Ear Pods in 
favor of Apple Air Pods.

Even 

RE: Ticket Master

[michv]

Hello when I used the app back in 2019 to go to a weard al consert that I had 
tickits to it worked fine but I have not used it since that time. From Mich.

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Sent: January 7, 2023 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ticket Master

Hello there,


Has anyone seen any problems with Ticket Master on the iPhone aft IOS 
16.2?  I can pull the app up but I do not see any sort of interface though.




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RE: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

[michv]

Hi another idea to getting ms to change it’s mind about the demise of sound 
skape might be to start a potission on something like change.org from Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mo Khan
Sent: January 1, 2023 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Further updates Microsoft Soundscape app

 

A Blind Truth
Microsoft Soundscape - Further Information
Firstly , thank you all so much for sharing my recent post about the imminent 
demise of Microsoft Soundscape. It is obvious from the number of comments and 
shares the post got, that I am not the only one who was shocked by the news.
Now, this is not a direct response to me from Microsoft - however…
Via a chain of contacts I have been lead to believe that one of the main 
reasons for Microsoft discontinuing Soundscape is that they don’t think very 
many people use it.Apparently they have no way of knowing, which I have to say 
rocks my world somewhat.
So, here’s the thing. Let’s let Microsoft know how much we use, and how much we 
rely on it for safety, independence and orientation.
You never know, this might be that one time when pester power actually works.
So,once again, please share this post far and wide, andlet’s see if we can get 
Microsoft to change it’s mind.

 

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when I try to send a message with Siri it calls the person in sted. is this a bug in ios 16.2?

[michv]

Hi all when I try to send a text message using Siri instead of texting them
it calls them in sted. If I say text who ever it calls them instead is this
a bug in ios 16.2? from Mich. 

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RE: Google chat

[michv]

Google chat works quite well with vo what is your ishu?

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Anybody got any tips?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

[michv]

Hmm this is a good question I wonder if you could use a combination of face id 
and pin? Since I have a I phone 8 but am planning to get a I phone 14 prow in 
the new year. It would be good if you had a choice of using face id and pin in 
combination with one another. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Homuth
Sent: December 7, 2022 3:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
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RE: How to make notifications more informative on iPhone 14?

[michv]

Hi the notifications not spoken on the lock screen is a bug in the latest 
version of ios. I am running a I phone 8 with ios 16.1 and it is still not 
fixt. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Homuth
Sent: December 5, 2022 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to make notifications more informative on iPhone 14?

 

I’ve been out of the new phone game for a while. I’ve been rocking the 7 since 
shortly after it launched. I’ve since moved over to the 14 Pro Max, and they 
changed my text message notifications on me. Before, I used to be able to read 
my text messages from the lock screen without unlocking the phone. Now, it just 
says “text message”. It’s probably a setting I read about and forgot since it 
didn’t apply to me, but… How do I get the previous behavior back?

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RE: stopping dictation

[michv]

Hi I have found this but not using the 2 finger dubble tap to stop dictation 
but it does start music going. I have found though that trying to stop 
dictation andthen having vo read back what you have dictated doesn’t always 
work but I think that this is a bug starting in ios 16 and it hasn’t been 
squoshed yet. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: November 29, 2022 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: stopping dictation

 

Hi,

I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade. 
 Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button to the 
left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to stop 
dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, but it seems to 
me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, doing 
this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my phone. 
Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I’m still in 
dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to the 
app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a two-finger 
double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either that, or my 
latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.For now, I’m 
trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap.

 

Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.

 

 

 

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RE: Reading prescription labels

[michv]

Navi lends is a app that you can use to read lables or names of shops or 
objects if the lables are applied properly. From Mich.

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Sent: November 26, 2022 12:34 PM
To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

don't know anything about this navi lens.  What is it?

Marda

On 11/26/2022 11:23 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  I am wondering if this might not be a perfect example where NaviLens 
> could be of use? Not only can the labels be as small as you need them, they 
> could also translate for those whose language is  not the prevailing one, so, 
> visitors from abroad etc. It is free aty the point of use and would be 
> totally simple for pharmacies to apply.
>
>  NaviLens is such wonderful stuff!!!
>
> P.S. not sure, but think that the adtual licence for the public  labels would 
> have to be owned by the manufacturer.sandy and Z.
>
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>
>> On 26 Nov 2022, at 15:09, Lyne  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
>>
>> Lyne
>>
>>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>>>
>>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>>> LiDAR could, if you have it?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>>>
>>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program 
>>> which gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>>> web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
>>>prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
>>>the medication?
>>>
>>>I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
>>>was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
>>>think.
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>Donald Raikes, CPACC
>>>Accessibility Specialist
>>>IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
>>>
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RE: Are there any accessible apps for the vacuum robots?

[michv]

I downloaded the I robot app how ever I don't have a robot vacume but the app 
seems to be mostley accessible using voice over. From Mich.

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Arrigo
Sent: November 26, 2022 1:01 PM
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I would suggest something from Roborock. The app ismostly accessible and they 
make some of the best robots. Ecovacs is also really good.

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> Hi All,
> Are any of the robot vacuum accessible using an app on the iPhone? I have a 
> friend that is blind and looking for a robot vacuum that might have an 
> accessible app for the iPhone. If not which robot vacuum do you feel is easy 
> to setup and use by a blind person. Also he wants the one that automatically  
> dumps. If you have any ideas or suggestions on this please let me know.
>  Mr. ed
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RE: Reading prescription labels

[michv]

Hi hear in Ontario the closest farmicey that offers the script talk app and 
info is in north bay at shoppers drug mart hear in Temiskaming shores we have 
findleys gardion drugs witch has no script talk info or anything like that and 
in north bay it is a hour and a haff away. From Mich.

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Sent: November 26, 2022 2:16 PM
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Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
> 
> Here is the website to read more about it.
> 
> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
> (envisionamerica.com)
> 
> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
> Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first 
> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as 
> what do you have to lose. 
> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this 
> great service to read their prescription bottles.
> 
> 
> Ed Pinkman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>> 
>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which 
>> gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Hi,
>> 
>>   Using my 

voice ocr?

[michv]

Hi Dug I am wondering is Voice OCR a app for the I phone? Or is it a setting in 
jaws? I am running jaws 2023. Many thanks. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: November 23, 2022 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

 

Hey Mich, one could probably go crazy testing out the number of OCR apps 
available. For reading all required information on banking and credit cards, i 
have found the very best OCR Program to be Voice OCR. Most OCR I have tried 
can't read the embossed numbers on the cards; Voice OCR has failed me only on 
one card and I can't so far get entry to Aira as an impoverished non-paying 
member.

Sing along with Mich! (sometimes I can't help myself!)

On 2022-11-23 12:32 p.m., mi...@eastlink.ca   wrote:

Hi all I am wondering if there are any apps that would help with reading the 
info on a visa debbet card? I know not to use apps like be my eyes or ira to 
accomplish this but I am wondering if seeing ai would be recommended or not? I 
know that this is sencitive info and I am just wondering what I could do to do 
this independently. Many thanks. From Mich.

 

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RE: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

[michv]

Hi they seem to have since I tried to call and got a call failer. I did a 
facetime with my sister and she helpt me. Thanks for all your help. From Mich.

 

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Turner
Sent: November 23, 2022 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Did Aira stop its free 4 minute calls?

 

 

 

 

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parisian
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

 

Hey Mich, one could probably go crazy testing out the number of OCR apps 
available. For reading all required information on banking and credit cards, i 
have found the very best OCR Program to be Voice OCR. Most OCR I have tried 
can't read the embossed numbers on the cards; Voice OCR has failed me only on 
one card and I can't so far get entry to Aira as an impoverished non-paying 
member.

Sing along with Mich! (sometimes I can't help myself!)

On 2022-11-23 12:32 p.m., mi...@eastlink.ca   wrote:

Hi all I am wondering if there are any apps that would help with reading the 
info on a visa debbet card? I know not to use apps like be my eyes or ira to 
accomplish this but I am wondering if seeing ai would be recommended or not? I 
know that this is sencitive info and I am just wondering what I could do to do 
this independently. Many thanks. From Mich.

 

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questionwhat are the best apps to read a visa debbit card.

[michv]

Hi all I am wondering if there are any apps that would help with reading the
info on a visa debbet card? I know not to use apps like be my eyes or ira to
accomplish this but I am wondering if seeing ai would be recommended or not?
I know that this is sencitive info and I am just wondering what I could do
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RE: Accessibility of Apple pencil and Apple Archade

[michv]

Hi I am not shure of apple pencel but apple archade has no accessible games. 
From Mich.

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Dear Viphone friends,

Is Apple pencil accessible?  Also, are any accessible games on Apple
archade?  Please do help.

Thank you.

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RE: E-speak now available to test IOS

[michv]

Hi I have seen somethinga bout this on twitter according to what I red the 
pauses between words is really long and it is not as responcive as alex on ios. 
From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Heinrichs
Sent: November 3, 2022 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Gordon 
Subject: Re: E-speak now available to test IOS

Oh wow, E-Speak for iOS? Maybe I should check that out! I honestly wish 
Ivona hadn't gone to the Harpo store because I would've loved to have my 
favorite Ivona voices for iOS. I especially loved the Amy voice, that 
was my all-time favorite voice along with the Vocalizer Kate voice, the 
British voice.

Maria

On 11/3/2022 4:26 AM, Gordon wrote:
> I got this from the top tech tid bits email this morning. You must 
> install test flight to do this, but when you get the app installed, 
> you'll find the voices in settings accessibility and will sample and 
> change them just like you would if you wanted to change any other 
> voices. It's actually pretty cool and works well. The only thing you 
> can't do right now is change the speech volume through the rotor, but 
> I did submit feedback to the developer about this. but there are a tun 
> of voices to choose from. Here's the link 
> https://applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/first-espeak-ng-beta-ios-now-available 
>
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RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

[michv]

Hi yes I have and it is still there. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: October 26, 2022 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Have you rebooted your phone after the update?

 

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: dictation bug in ios 16.1

 

Hi,

I have had that issue since yesterday when I installed 16.1. It also makes 
intermittent beeps or some sort of tone sometimes if the dictation is long 
enough. 

I am finding Dictation to be problematic in a variety of apps including mail, 
reminders, and messages.

Merv

 

 

On Oct 25, 2022, at 7:19 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca   
wrote:

 

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that 
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo? When 
I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again that juring 
the dictation process vo go’s scilent and doesn’t come back until you get out 
of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug. From Mich.

 

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dictation bug in ios 16.1

[michv]

Hi all I just found a dictation bug in ios 16.1 has any one elts found that
when they try to dictate a message that they loose all function  with vo?
When I am dictateing a message and once I am dun and dubble tap it again
that juring the dictation process vo go's scilent and doesn't come back
until you get out of the dictation moad. I am wondering if this is a bug.
>From Mich.

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RE: NaviLens and label types and uses

[michv]

Hi all I would laos like to join a group like this. My question though is does 
any one know if this is avlaible in Canada? Since I have not herd about it 
being in Canada. I know it is in the US and the UK but I have herd nothing 
about Canada. Many thanks for any one who can answer this question. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beth G
Sent: October 11, 2022 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NaviLens and label types and uses

 

Hi all,

 

I too would love to join a NaviLens specific group.

I’ve never used it, but I’m seeing ways that I definitely could.

 

Thanks,

 

Beth

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 10, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hi,

I started this thread to help separate this topic from Air Tags.

 

First, Sandy, if you start a groups.io group, I will join though I have not 
used NaviLens myself as much as I thought I would.

 

Also Sandy, what info can you share about the iron-on labels?

 

Holly or Sandy, if you find vinal paper that can take laser printing, let me 
know what it is and perhaps a link to Amazon?

 

I really liked Martin’s idea about the basketball hoop.  When I was in High 
School, in the earliest of the 70’s, I had someone stand under the hoop and hit 
it with my cane.

I shot about 50% from the free-throw line, which at the time was as good or a 
little better than Wilt Chamberlin. 

 

Later,

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the Rotor

[michv]

Hi I tried marry’s example and when I turne the roader to words and flicked 
down with one finger it brought me right to trash it didn’t read the message at 
all. So this is a bug? From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 4, 2022 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

 

Mary, you nailed it.

I should have given that example.

Well done.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not 
the Rotor

 

I am not richard, but here is an example of what he is talking about I believe. 
Open a Mail message. Set your rotor to read by word, or character, or line, it 
doesn’t really matter. Flick down to read a couple of words or whatever. Then 
flick once to the right. The next time you flick down, your rotor will have 
changed and you will be sent to the bottom where you have your choice to trash 
the message or whatever. In my case, every time it says trash. So the rotor is 
switching just because I make a flick to the right without changing anything. 
I’m sure there are others, but this one is easy to duplicate.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

 

I am curious about your statement abut Apple having to fix a bug with the rotor 
where things randomly get turned on. I don't recall this ever happening to me 
unless of course I accidently had focus on a particular rotor item like screen 
recognition at which point of course a flick up or down will toggle this on or 
off. Can you give specific examples about this?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Recommendation: put Screen Recognition in VO Quick Settings, not the 
Rotor

 

After my experience with the BARDMobile app and screen recognition accidentally 
getting turned on, I have taken it out of the rotor and put it in Quick 
Settings.

The advantage is that it cannot be accidentally turned on.

Until Apple fixes the Rotor so it doesn’t randomly change what is focused, 
accidentally turning on various settings will happen.

This one can reak havvoc, so moving it to Quick Settings will lessen the 
problems it can cause while leaving it available for those places where it may 
be useful.

To open Quick Settings, do a two finger quadruple tap.  Find the setting you 
want to enable and do a one finger double tap.

 

HTH,

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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RE: Keyboard access and braille display

[michv]

Hi Kelly from what I have found when I am using a braille display with my I 
phone it seems that all the funktions of the phone go to the braille display 
and touching the phone doesn't do anything. I found it really confusing. But 
that is the way it works. From Mich.

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Hi,

I was experimenting a bit with turning on the accessibility setting for full 
keyboard access and moving around the iPhone and several applications. This was 
working fine with a Bluetooth keyboard.

However, as soon as I then turned on a braille display, the keyboard access 
quit working from the Bluetooth keyboard. Does anyone know if this is how 
things are supposed to work?

Kelly
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another thing I found when updateing to ios 16 is imogies keyboard you ahve to slide up to access it.

[michv]

Hi all I was just wondering I found that the Emojis keyboard when you are in
a edit field since updateing to ios 16 you have to slide your finger up to
access it when you used to be able to dubble tap on the keyboard icon and it
would switch to that keyboard. Has any one elts found this? This is running
a I phone 8. From Mich.

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RE: Capture code

[michv]

Hi I tink if you have a I Phone 14 or the larger moddles this is going to be a 
feture that you can use as far as it will be bilt in. from Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: September 19, 2022 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Capture code

 

How do I get past the captcha code on all of those sites that ask for one?

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Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

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RE: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

[michv]

I tried the pasteing thing and on my I phone 8 running ios 16 I got no sort of 
notification. It just copied and pasted as always. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 19, 2022 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

 

Then obviously this might be something Apple Accessibility should hear about. I 
don't have a shortcut defined to paste which I guess is why I didn't have the 
problem.

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

 

If you use the rotor method, the permission doesn’t come up.

Or, just do a two finger scrub and clear the permission request and the paste 
happens anyway.

 

 

 

Richard

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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

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礪

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Fazil M.
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 12:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

 

Thanks much, Sieghard:

You always come with one solution or the other to any problem; very nice of you.

I have created a gesture sometimes ago, copying the last spoken utterance with 
swiping left with two fingers and swiping right with two fingers for pasting it.

Now whenever I paste something from email in Whatsapp, or something from 
Whatsapp in messages, this confirmation prompt comes up.

One mor thing, please send your email to me privately.

Thanks!

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

 

Could you give a specific example which I could reproduce regarding the paste 
permission prompt?

Here is one I just tried:

 

1. I was on my home screen with focus on the Facebook app and Voiceover said: 
Facebook, 1 new item

I did a 3-finger quadruple tap and Voiceover said "Facebook, 1 new item copied 
to clipboard.

I then started a new text message and when I was in the message field I turned 
the rotor, swiped up to "Edit" and then flicked down to "Paste".

I double tapped and "Facebook, 1 new item was pasted into the message field 
without any prompts for paste permissions etc.

 

If you reproduce these steps and also don't get the prompt let me know a 
scenario where you do get it so I can reproduce it.

 

By the way, have you already preordered a Sub Mini 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

 

I wonder if you have a setting that is allowing you to avoid those messages.

I don’t get enough text messages to be bothered by the extra step, but the 
pasting one is a real PITA.

That, or since Apple isn’t seeing it internally, you are just one of the lucky 
ones.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

 

Interestingly enough I deleted several text messages which had just phone 
numbers, i.e. they were not in my contacts, and I never received the prompt to 
report them as junk and so far I have not seen the paste permission message 
even though I pasted bits of text into a Facebook post and text message earlier 
this morning.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pasting Permission in iOS16?

 

And why you are writing Apple about the annoying copy & paste message, Please 
include the annoying Report as Junk iMessage prompt that pops up when a contact 
is not in a person's contact list. There are just some phone numbers that I 
choose not to save or that come from multiple different numbers but the same 
business.

 

Donna

 

 



I have not found one yet and I’m finding this 

RE: CPAP

[michv]

Hi I am not shure of any that have a app to work with them. The one that I have 
works by having buttons on the frunt of it. It  has 3 different buttons one is 
a round one that terns it on and off and the others are 3 buttons along the 
boddem below that first button and the water go’s in at the top. The info for 
it is as follows. Fisher Paykel helthcair that is the company. I hope this 
helps. From Mich. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: CPAP

 

Does anyone know if there are particular CPAP machines that have apps for the 
iPhone that will control the system .. and of course are accessible.  I am 
needing to get a new system .. and they now seem to all have LCDs and limited 
physical buttons like the older systems.  Was hoping to find one that will work 
with an app so that it can be effectively used.  Any help as always is 
appreciated.

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RE: New voices iOS 16

[michv]

That voice is cald reed under ios hth. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: September 14, 2022 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

 

I am trying to find the eloquence voice called perfect Paul. When I use Jaws 
that’s the voice I always used. I can’t find it. Does anyone know where it is? 
Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!





On Sep 14, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Tom Rash mailto:dadnthed...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I am using the enhanced version of Tom.  It sounds a little muddy though.  I 
notice that some of the voices sound a little muddy even with the enhanced 
version.  Maybe things will clear up in a while.dd





On Sep 14, 2022, at 4:18 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

I have been looking forward to eloquence for a while now. I’ve been using it 
all day yesterday and I’m not sure I like it. It sounds kind of muddy. I’m 
using a 13 pro.

 

Chris Judge

  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: September 12, 2022 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

 

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was 
using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, 
and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!

 

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
CHELA Robles
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

 

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium version!

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM
To: ViPone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: New voices iOS 16

 

I personally like the following new voices.

Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

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RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[michv]

Hi well I would like to take advantage of Lidar and door detection. And I was 
under the impression that only the 13 max moddles and bigger have this. >From 
Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 11, 2022 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Just curious, why a 13 Pro Max rather than just a regular 13 Pro? I can see the 
Pro Max being a good thing if you are doing a lot of braille input or if you 
are out and about a lot and want absolutely the most battery life. I much 
prefer the slightly smaller phone, it costs a couple of hundred less here in 
Canada and if battery life is really a concern then you can get one of these 
Anker MagGo external batteries for $50 or $60 and that would even beat the 
battery life of a Pro max at a lot less cost..

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

I am going to upgrade to a I phone 13 max if I can but am also going to wate 
when is good Friday again? Since if there is a good sale on one then I will try 
then. I am shure that the prices of those older phones will go down as well. 
Btw I am one of those with a 8. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 11, 2022 1:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

As always people will upgrade whether they have to or not. And let's not forget 
there are many who still have phones like the iPhone 8, X, XS or XR and if they 
wish to upgrade this year simply because their phones are getting old then any 
iPhone 14 whether Pro or not is still a good choice. For sighted people who 
drive even just the crash detection feature can be a good motivation, then 
there is a slightly larger battery, slightly improved camera on the 14/14 Plus 
and big time improved camera on the Pro models and the emergency SOS via 
satellite which again for users who are off the grid a lot could offer some 
peace of mind.
And anybody who doesn't think they need all that they can probably score a good 
deal on an iPhone 13 come Black Friday. I am actually most likely going to wait 
for that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing.  Hopefully they 
will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they do that and the USBC than I 
might get one but If they do little to nothing like they did this year I think 
a lot of people won't upgrade.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

>From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR.
You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from 
an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14.
I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the regular 
models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from last year. 
They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now has auto focus 
so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one good reason. The 
emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a good reason for 
people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it.
I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing OCR, 
recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you would be 
able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or even iPhone 14 
Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and are really into good 
photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great option, if you really want 
to take advantage of door detection and maybe other features in various apps 
which require the LiDAR sensor then you have also a very good reason for the 14 
Pro or Pro Max, but only if you don't already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or 13 
Pro/Pro Max which already have the LiDAR sensor as well.

I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and I could have upgraded 
to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months and then I would have 
to give the phone back to them or buy out that option for $560. This means that 
over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then wanted to keep the phone I'd 
have to buy it out for $560 so in total I would pay $1,280. I can go to the 
Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb in Canada for $1,399 so I guess 
doing the deal with Telus may save me $100 or $120, but not a huge difference. 
AS for 

RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[michv]

I ment black Friday lol. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: September 11, 2022 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Mitch,
Good Friday is April 7, 2023.  Or did you mean Black Friday, the day after US 
Thanksgiving for the pre-Christmas sales?  That is November 25th.  

I am with Sieghard, unless you have a good reason for the larger phone/battery 
life, or enough vision to take advantage of the larger screen, the Pro size 
would be more affordable and get pretty much the same performance other than 
maybe a little less battery life; but they are talking all day battery life 
with either pro or pro max, so the suggestion of a battery pack is a good one.

I think you said you have an 8 now, so any of the 14's will be a huge 
improvement.


Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Just curious, why a 13 Pro Max rather than just a regular 13 Pro? I can see the 
Pro Max being a good thing if you are doing a lot of braille input or if you 
are out and about a lot and want absolutely the most battery life. I much 
prefer the slightly smaller phone, it costs a couple of hundred less here in 
Canada and if battery life is really a concern then you can get one of these 
Anker MagGo external batteries for $50 or $60 and that would even beat the 
battery life of a Pro max at a lot less cost..

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

I am going to upgrade to a I phone 13 max if I can but am also going to wate 
when is good Friday again? Since if there is a good sale on one then I will try 
then. I am shure that the prices of those older phones will go down as well. 
Btw I am one of those with a 8. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 11, 2022 1:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

As always people will upgrade whether they have to or not. And let's not forget 
there are many who still have phones like the iPhone 8, X, XS or XR and if they 
wish to upgrade this year simply because their phones are getting old then any 
iPhone 14 whether Pro or not is still a good choice. For sighted people who 
drive even just the crash detection feature can be a good motivation, then 
there is a slightly larger battery, slightly improved camera on the 14/14 Plus 
and big time improved camera on the Pro models and the emergency SOS via 
satellite which again for users who are off the grid a lot could offer some 
peace of mind.
And anybody who doesn't think they need all that they can probably score a good 
deal on an iPhone 13 come Black Friday. I am actually most likely going to wait 
for that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing.  Hopefully they 
will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they do that and the USBC than I 
might get one but If they do little to nothing like they did this year I think 
a lot of people won't upgrade.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

>From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR.
You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from 
an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14.
I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the regular 
models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from last year. 
They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now has auto focus 
so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one good reason. The 
emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a good reason for 
people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it.
I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing OCR, 
recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you would be 
able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or even iPhone 14 
Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and are really into good 
photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great 

RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[michv]

I am going to upgrade to a I phone 13 max if I can but am also going to wate 
when is good Friday again? Since if there is a good sale on one then I will try 
then. I am shure that the prices of those older phones will go down as well. 
Btw I am one of those with a 8. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 11, 2022 1:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

As always people will upgrade whether they have to or not. And let's not forget 
there are many who still have phones like the iPhone 8, X, XS or XR and if they 
wish to upgrade this year simply because their phones are getting old then any 
iPhone 14 whether Pro or not is still a good choice. For sighted people who 
drive even just the crash detection feature can be a good motivation, then 
there is a slightly larger battery, slightly improved camera on the 14/14 Plus 
and big time improved camera on the Pro models and the emergency SOS via 
satellite which again for users who are off the grid a lot could offer some 
peace of mind.
And anybody who doesn't think they need all that they can probably score a good 
deal on an iPhone 13 come Black Friday. I am actually most likely going to wait 
for that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing.  Hopefully they 
will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they do that and the USBC than I 
might get one but If they do little to nothing like they did this year I think 
a lot of people won't upgrade.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

>From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR.
You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from 
an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14.
I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the regular 
models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from last year. 
They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now has auto focus 
so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one good reason. The 
emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a good reason for 
people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it.
I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing OCR, 
recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you would be 
able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or even iPhone 14 
Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and are really into good 
photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great option, if you really want 
to take advantage of door detection and maybe other features in various apps 
which require the LiDAR sensor then you have also a very good reason for the 14 
Pro or Pro Max, but only if you don't already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or 13 
Pro/Pro Max which already have the LiDAR sensor as well.

I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and I could have upgraded 
to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months and then I would have 
to give the phone back to them or buy out that option for $560. This means that 
over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then wanted to keep the phone I'd 
have to buy it out for $560 so in total I would pay $1,280. I can go to the 
Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb in Canada for $1,399 so I guess 
doing the deal with Telus may save me $100 or $120, but not a huge difference. 
AS for trade-in, Telus said they would give me $200 for my iPhone 11 64 Gb 
which is laughable because I know I could easily get $500 for it if I put it up 
for sale now privately.
So I will just wait and see what happens for a while, if the iPhone 14 and 14 
Pro phones aren't accepted as much as Apple may hope they are you may soon find 
stores, carriers and maybe even Apple offering extra deals and Black Friday is 
only just over 2 months off. I am of course somewhat tempted to get an iPhone 
14 Pro because I like the idea of the MagSafe charging where a slight bump or 
pull on the Earpods wouldn't dislodge the phone from its charging position on 
the wireless charging pad and you can get external batteries like that new 
Anker 622 MagGo which has 5,000 Mah capacity and it snaps onto the back of the 
phone without covering the camera opening, but I'll just wait a bit longer. 
Once the new phones are regularly available they may even be sold by my credit 
card rewards program and I have plenty of points and if not then I know for 
sure they have $500 Apple Store or Best Buy gift cards which I 

RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[michv]

I am hopeing to upgrade from the I phone 8 to the I phone 13 max so that I can 
take addvantige of the lidar feture how ever I am also with tellis and I am 
wondering how mutch they would give me for my I phone 8? Since I am in the 
bring it back program and I would only have to pay for the taxes and get the I 
phone 13 max for 0 dollars not counting the taxes of korce. I to was not that 
impressed with the I phone 14 how ever I did like the watch though the watch ie 
I meen not the more expencive ones. How ever even that I would have to pay 
around 300 cad and I am notshure if I should go with the gps version or the one 
with cell service. As far as the answer to the question in this post I don't 
think that the I phone 14 has the lidar no. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard 
Ontario Canada.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 9, 2022 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

>From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR.
You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from 
an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14.
I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the regular 
models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from last year. 
They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now has auto focus 
so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one good reason. The 
emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a good reason for 
people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it.
I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing OCR, 
recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you would be 
able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or even iPhone 14 
Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and are really into good 
photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great option, if you really want 
to take advantage of door detection and maybe other features in various apps 
which require the LiDAR sensor then you have also a very good reason for the 14 
Pro or Pro Max, but only if you don't already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or 13 
Pro/Pro Max which already have the LiDAR sensor as well.

I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and I could have upgraded 
to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months and then I would have 
to give the phone back to them or buy out that option for $560. This means that 
over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then wanted to keep the phone I'd 
have to buy it out for $560 so in total I would pay $1,280. I can go to the 
Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb in Canada for $1,399 so I guess 
doing the deal with Telus may save me $100 or $120, but not a huge difference. 
AS for trade-in, Telus said they would give me $200 for my iPhone 11 64 Gb 
which is laughable because I know I could easily get $500 for it if I put it up 
for sale now privately.
So I will just wait and see what happens for a while, if the iPhone 14 and 14 
Pro phones aren't accepted as much as Apple may hope they are you may soon find 
stores, carriers and maybe even Apple offering extra deals and Black Friday is 
only just over 2 months off. I am of course somewhat tempted to get an iPhone 
14 Pro because I like the idea of the MagSafe charging where a slight bump or 
pull on the Earpods wouldn't dislodge the phone from its charging position on 
the wireless charging pad and you can get external batteries like that new 
Anker 622 MagGo which has 5,000 Mah capacity and it snaps onto the back of the 
phone without covering the camera opening, but I'll just wait a bit longer. 
Once the new phones are regularly available they may even be sold by my credit 
card rewards program and I have plenty of points and if not then I know for 
sure they have $500 Apple Store or Best Buy gift cards which I could order and 
then use to buy one. I know for sure that if I had a MagSafe capable phone like 
a 12 or 13 series phone I'd have 0 incentive to get a 14.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

As far as I know, LIDAR is still only on the pro and pro max models.

One could call Apple to double check, but I was surprised they didn't mention 
anything about it especially with the door detection feature that is apparently 
coming in iOS 16, but of course, Wednesday's presentation was focused on 
hardware, not software.

 


Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Friday, September 9, 

RE: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

[michv]

Yes that is what I would be doing but my question was along with that if I 
would be able to use face id? Since right now I have a passcoad that I don’t 
mind entering but would like to have face id as another optiona s well. From 
Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: September 4, 2022 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your 
older phone can you still use face id?

 

Hi Mich, as long as you're backing up from your old iPhone 8 settings, 
everything will restore to your new phone. Is the same way that you had 
previously had it set up





On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:36 PM, mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> > 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> > wrote:

 

Hi all I am wondering I have a Iphone 8 and I am wanting to upgrade to the 
Iphone 13 max if I set up my phone by going into settings and having it set up 
like my Iphone 8 is set up now with folder structure intackt and everything 
like that do I still have the option to use face ID? And set that up as a 
option? From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

 

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question if you have a new phone and you set it up just like your older phone can you still use face id?

[michv]

Hi all I am wondering I have a Iphone 8 and I am wanting to upgrade to the
Iphone 13 max if I set up my phone by going into settings and having it set
up like my Iphone 8 is set up now with folder structure intackt and
everything like that do I still have the option to use face ID? And set that
up as a option? From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

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question how to get to atachmints when some one e ataches them to a e mail using mail and vo.

[michv]

Hi all I am wondering when youg et a e mail with atachmints using mail and
vo how do you get to what they are? I have tried using vo and male on my I
phone 8 and can't seem to find what they are. What I meen is where to find
the atachmints. I have looked under the more tab and can't find any info
there. Many thanks. From Mich. 

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RE: Embarrassing question

[michv]

I am also looking for a girl friend as well and not a friend who is a girl as 
Sheldon from tbbt says lol. From Mich.

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Sent: August 30, 2022 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Embarrassing question

I am looking for a girlfriend! your not alone! i am going thru the same thing

On 8/30/22, mi...@eastlink.ca  wrote:
> Hi I am not shure but some sights that come to mind are
> dateingfordisabled.com zoosk lava life by phone, quest chat, these are phone
> dateing lines men have to pay women don’t and you need a cc. as far as apps
> tinder comes to mind but the last time I used it it relyed on picks and it
> was not that accessible with vo. Also there is plentyoffish but again I am
> not shure how accessible this is now. Back when I used it back in around
> 2005 it was accessible but that was years ago. There is also the free chat
> line the number is 1712 432 5700 how ever even that is not free they give
> you around 5 or 10 minnits and then your time is up and you have to call
> back in unless you want to pay for a membership. The same things go for
> lavalife by phone and quest dchat again those you pay for so many minnits.
> And if you are a guy you have to pay but if you are a woman you don’t have
> to. I hope some of this is of some use. I don’t know of any fully accessible
> dateing apps or websibghts. The things that I did like about the phone
> options is that you can hear the person’s voice all though having said that
> you still don’t know if the people who you are dateing or speeking to are
> real or if they are just sounding like women so I guess even that is not
> safe. From Mich.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star
> Gazer
> Sent: August 30, 2022 12:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Embarrassing question
>
>
>
> Just hit up
> the dating sites. Nobody is vetted so I’m not sure how you’d verify safe,
> and then of course well, people have different ideas of what that means.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> chaim biberfeld
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 10:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Embarrassing question
>
>
>
> I am lonely. Is there a fully accessible and safe "hook up" app or website?
> Hope I'm not offending  anyone!
>
> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
> Private Practice
> 917-902-3349 
>
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RE: Embarrassing question

[michv]

Hi I am not shure but some sights that come to mind are dateingfordisabled.com 
zoosk lava life by phone, quest chat, these are phone dateing lines men have to 
pay women don’t and you need a cc. as far as apps tinder comes to mind but the 
last time I used it it relyed on picks and it was not that accessible with vo. 
Also there is plentyoffish but again I am not shure how accessible this is now. 
Back when I used it back in around 2005 it was accessible but that was years 
ago. There is also the free chat line the number is 1712 432 5700 how ever even 
that is not free they give you around 5 or 10 minnits and then your time is up 
and you have to call back in unless you want to pay for a membership. The same 
things go for lavalife by phone and quest dchat again those you pay for so many 
minnits. And if you are a guy you have to pay but if you are a woman you don’t 
have to. I hope some of this is of some use. I don’t know of any fully 
accessible dateing apps or websibghts. The things that I did like about the 
phone options is that you can hear the person’s voice all though having said 
that you still don’t know if the people who you are dateing or speeking to are 
real or if they are just sounding like women so I guess even that is not safe. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: August 30, 2022 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Embarrassing question

 

Just hit up the 
dating sites. Nobody is vetted so I’m not sure how you’d verify safe, and then 
of course well, people have different ideas of what that means. 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chaim biberfeld
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Embarrassing question

 

I am lonely. Is there a fully accessible and safe "hook up" app or website? 
Hope I'm not offending  anyone!

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 

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RE: thoughts on SE3

[michv]

Yes but if we start getting recnised with dna then it is not so far off of 
things like braine chips nad stuff like that. From Mich. 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: August 28, 2022 9:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

A tech support guy from Apple told me around 2 months ago that the sim card is 
definitely on the way out in favor of E sim.  I would guess that the sim slot 
is the first place that water might enterr.

I wouldn't care if my finger print sensor is under the screen, I just prefer 
the Touch ID over face recognition.

I'm not sure how long it takes for technology to double these days but I would 
not be surprised if smart phones don't recognize users via DNA at some point in 
the future.

Take care,

James B  

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Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Actually the IPX rating states 6 metres for up to 30 minutes which is approx. 
20 feet.
As for Touch Id it will be one of the things of the past in my opinion. There 
have been rumours ever since Face Id was introduced in 2017 that one day there 
will be an iPhone which has Face Id and under-display Touch Id meaning your 
finger print will be read by a sensor embedded in a particular area under the 
screen, but it's not going to be part of the iPhone 14 this year and while one 
should never say never, I have a feeling it has gone the way of the 3.5mm 
headphone jack. Of course such good water resistance can only be achieved if 
there are fewer points where water can enter. I heard that physical SIM cards 
may also soon be a thing of the past with e-SIM taking over, then it's long 
been rumoured that at some point the iPhone won't have any more connector at 
all and if then the volume buttons and the side button are appropriately 
designed we could be looking at an iPhone which may become the scuba divers new 
underwater camera. After all, most scuba diving is done in 40 feet or less and 
a recreational diver stays down maybe 55 minutes to an hour at the most with a 
single tank so that isn't so far fetched.

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.  That 
would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID on my S E 
2020.

How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the 13 
mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?  That is 
amazing.

Sieghard , Thanks for your information.

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers I 
doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use your 
iPhone with a good headset or speaker.


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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

Which phone has the best sound?

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3

The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as well as 
IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google search for 
"iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications", but let's 
not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has 
a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water 
proof.
In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter inch 
taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be 
expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138 
inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you could 
ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other hand.
Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they can't 
live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years after the 
shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and there will 
just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned I agree 
with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer design with 
larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then 
again I wouldn't 

question if there is a tutorial on how to use google maps with vo or the other map apps with vo?

[michv]

Hi all I was just looking around on the google maps ap in my gps folder as
well as the maps ap from apple. I see the button for entering destination
and stuff and also the button for driving but I am wondering if there is a
tutorial on how to use this with vo? Many thanks. From Mich.

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question about gps and google maps and getting verble derections in the car.

[michv]

Hi all I am going on a trip next month down to Toronto. My Dad and I each
have google maps on our I Phones I am wondering he is going to put in my
uncle's address into google maps to help us get to his place. My question is
does google maps offer verble derections in the car? For instince in so many
meaters turn hear then in so many more turn hear that kind of thing? I have
not used google maps on my I Phone using vo and I was just wondering if this
is a option on google maps? From Mich.

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RE: netflix newby

[michv]

Hi under the catigories there is a category on the app just for audio 
description. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
caspic...@gmail.com
Sent: July 30, 2022 10:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: netflix newby

 

I Think it shows you in the movie description or just below it and it may be 
listed under language.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 30, 2022, at 1:36 PM, Paula Jordan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:



Hi all.  I’ve just recently gotten interested in Netflix and wonder how you can 
find out if a movie has audio description.  Any advice would be most 
appreciated. 

Thanks in advance.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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RE: how to take a good picture of yourself

[michv]

Hi on the topic of taking selfies I would like to know if the selfie takes a 
hole shot of your hole boddy? Or just your upper boddy? I just was wondering. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: July 22, 2022 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how to take a good picture of yourself

 

It is absolutely possible to take a good selfie, easiest would be to double tap 
and hold on the Camera app and select Portrait Selfie from the context menu, 
then hold the phone at arm’s length and listen to Voiceover telling you if you 
have to tilt right or tilt left and whether it can detect a face and if it is 
centred.

 

If this is difficult you can always call Aira and they can tell you how to hold 
your phone and once in a good position they can take the picture for you and 
email it to you. This would all be possible with the free 5-minute call option. 
I have used them a number of times when I had to take photos I wanted to make 
sure where good, e.g. at one time my insurance company wanted to up-to-date 
photos of the outside of my house etc.

 

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Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 9:25 AM
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Subject: how to take a good picture of yourself

 

Using iPhone 13 pro is this even possible for a blind person to do if so how?

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question for those of you who use Bright guide insted of tellagram

[michv]

Hi all I am wondering if you can un install telegram and still use brigbht
guide? It is a blind accessible version for use with tellagram. I have each
of the apps installd and have payed the 6 bucks for the abillidey to send
voice messages how ever I am just wondering if I need bulth apps to use it?
Or can you only use just the 1? I tried toa sk this in the support for
bright guide but I couldn't seem to figure how to send it. From Mich.

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RE: question is it possible to use ms. soundscape to just get to a marker and not have a root to it? or is it possible to have ms soundscape start in the middle of a root?

[michv]

Hi all I just tried this and you are right you are able to start the marker and 
get derections to the beakin for shure. From Mich.

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Sent: July 19, 2022 10:52 AM
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Cc: Tom Frank 
Subject: Re: question is it possible to use ms. soundscape to just get to a 
marker and not have a root to it? or is it possible to have ms soundscape start 
in the middle of a root?

I have started a route in the middle, but, since I am not using Sound Scape 
right now, I cannot tell you what to do. I believe I went to the route and 
double tapped the marker where I wanted to start. 

Just using a marker with out a route is similar to using Ariadne GPS. It will 
constantly tell you the direction and distance to the marker if you have set it 
as a beacon. Obviously you will not have intermediate markers and direction on 
the way. Also, it the constant dinging in your ears drives you nuts, just push 
the stop button on your headphones or whatever you are using and the app will 
only give you the distance to the beacon about every fifty feet or so.
Thomas Frank
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> On Jul 19, 2022, at 8:53 AM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> 
> Just to clarify a little bit a route is a string of markers that help you 
> navigate to a particular location. If you just have Tim Horton as a marker, 
> you can leave the app off and whenever you need the help turn the app on and 
> set the beacon which is the audio marker to Tim Horton and it will take you 
> the rest of the way. A beacon is simply a marker that is in focus and has the 
> sound. If you are not concerned as much about battery life, you can keep the 
> app running but silence the audio marker until you get close. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2022, at 8:26 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
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>> 
>> Hi all I have been using ms. Soundscape with my apple air pods and I just 
>> set a root to tim hortons from home or ome to tim hortons. I am wondering is 
>> it possible to use sound scape and just go to a marker with out setting a 
>> root to it? Or can you start soundscape in the middle of a root and it will 
>> pick up where you are on that root? For instince let’s say that I know haff 
>> of a root but am not shure of the other haff. Would it be possible to pick 
>> up soundscape and start it haff way through a root and it would know where 
>> you were on the root? Many thanks. From Mich. 
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question is it possible to use ms. soundscape to just get to a marker and not have a root to it? or is it possible to have ms soundscape start in the middle of a root?

[michv]

Hi all I have been using ms. Soundscape with my apple air pods and I just
set a root to tim hortons from home or ome to tim hortons. I am wondering is
it possible to use sound scape and just go to a marker with out setting a
root to it? Or can you start soundscape in the middle of a root and it will
pick up where you are on that root? For instince let's say that I know haff
of a root but am not shure of the other haff. Would it be possible to pick
up soundscape and start it haff way through a root and it would know where
you were on the root? Many thanks. From Mich. 

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RE: solved problum with vo sayingh soashel everywhere and how i did it.

[michv]

Hi yes I ment the 2 finger dubble tap and hold. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: July 18, 2022 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: solved problum with vo sayingh soashel everywhere and how i did it.

 

Sorry, I meant the two finger double tap and hold. I assumed that’s what Mich 
meant since there is no three finger double tap and hold by default. 

 

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Subject: Re: solved problum with vo sayingh soashel everywhere and how i did it.

 

I'm glad you got the issue resolved. I'm curious about the three finger double 
tap and hold gesture mentioned by you and Christopher in order to edit the 
folder label. This gesture doesn't do anything for me. I have to use a two 
finger double tap and hold to do that. 

 

Thanks for any clarification. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

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Hi all I just solved the problem with vo saying soashel everywhere and hear’s 
how I did it. I whent into the folder and up to the hedding I did a 3 finger 
dubble tap and hold and renamed the hedding just deleated the word soashel and 
saved it and that seemed to work. Since I am no longer hearing the word soashel 
wile swipeing through on my phone except where it is supos to be witch is on 
the folder name it is no longer saying soashel page 1 soashel page 2 etc it now 
just says page 1 page 2 etc. I hope this helps. From Mich.

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solved problum with vo sayingh soashel everywhere and how i did it.

[michv]

Hi all I just solved the problem with vo saying soashel everywhere and
hear's how I did it. I whent into the folder and up to the hedding I did a 3
finger dubble tap and hold and renamed the hedding just deleated the word
soashel and saved it and that seemed to work. Since I am no longer hearing
the word soashel wile swipeing through on my phone except where it is supos
to be witch is on the folder name it is no longer saying soashel page 1
soashel page 2 etc it now just says page 1 page 2 etc. I hope this helps.
>From Mich.

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RE: does the roomba detect stairs?

[michv]

Hi I looked at roborock moddles and didn't see the e five for 200. I saw a s or 
q searies for 400 from best buy but nothing for 200. From Mich.

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RE: does the roomba detect stairs?

[michv]

Hi many thanks. I just looked at the price of the roborock and it seems a bit 
steep it was over 1000 from Mich. 

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Arrigo
Sent: July 17, 2022 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: does the roomba detect stairs?

Every robot vacuum that is currently available has drop sensors to prevent 
falling down stairs so this should not be an issue, I would definitely go for a 
Roborock instead of a Roomba.

> On Jul 17, 2022, at 5:50 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
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> Hi all I know how accessible the Roomba app is by readin the reviews but I am 
> wondering if it detects stairs? Since I live in a one bedroom upstairs apt 
> and if I was going to get this vacume or another one the roborocks one I 
> would not want it to stumble down the stairs. Many thanks. From Mich.
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does the roomba detect stairs?

[michv]

Hi all I know how accessible the Roomba app is by readin the reviews but I
am wondering if it detects stairs? Since I live in a one bedroom upstairs
apt and if I was going to get this vacume or another one the roborocks one I
would not want it to stumble down the stairs. Many thanks. From Mich.

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RE: question how to stop my i pad and i phone saying the word soashel after some folders and before you flip to diffrentpages on the screen.

[michv]

Hi how do I do that? Since I tried to re name the folder by doing a 3 finger 
press and hold and it re named the elliment only and now vo is saying soashel 
when I am swipeing around for instince it will say soashel page 1 of 7 soashel 
page 2 of 7 or it will say things like soashel callinder and not only are nun 
of these apps in the soashel folder it will just not stop saying them. I have 
contacted apple and all I have gotten out of them is to wate for a update that 
might or might not fix the ishu since the enjinears have no idea what is going 
on. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: July 17, 2022 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question how to stop my i pad and i phone saying the word soashel 
after some folders and before you flip to diffrentpages on the screen.

 

Rename the folder.

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 10:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: question how to stop my i pad and i phone saying the word soashel 
after some folders and before you flip to diffrentpages on the screen.

 

Maybe turn off and on voiceover

Sent from my iPod

 

On Jul 13, 2022, at 9:42 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca   
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Hi all I have a I pad forth gen. on this I pad I have a folder called soashel. 
I have named that folder but now when ever I swipe to different pages it says 
the word soashel before each page instead of saying page 1 page 2 etc. this is 
also happening on my I phone as well as some times it is saying it before the 
name of different apps. I just want it to say page 1 page 2 not soashel page 1 
page 2 etc. I am wondering how I can accomplish this? I have tried doing a 3 
finger press and hold to try to re name the folder to something elts when it is 
saying soashel instead of the name of different folders I only have 1 folder 
called soashel but some times vo is saying the word soashel before the word 
games for my games folder. I have tried clearing the text and rrighting the 
word games but it is still doing this. Since I have the same layout of folders 
on my I phone 8 From Mich. 

 

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trying to deside on what phone to upgrade to from the I Phone 8 64 bit.

[michv]

Hi all. I would like the lists thoughts. I am running a I phone 8 with 64
bit running ios15.5 and am able to upgrade it. I am trying to find out what
I should upgrade it to. I am blind and am a exclusive voice over user. I
have herd different things about the newer I phones that are out now like
the I phone 13 I phone 13 max and others like the I phone SE3. some things I
am thinking about are battery life and storage space. As some one who is
blind I don't really cair that mutch about the camra since I use it some
times to take picks but not that offen. I would like to know what the lists
thoughts on what I should upgrade it to as some one who uses voice over only
and the camra and other things not that mutch. Many thanks. From Mich
Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

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RE: Roomba

[michv]

HI all jumping in on this topic. I am wondering if the roborock only says this 
once? Or does it continu to say I am over hear until you find it? Also about 
the rumba I am wondering what kind of accessible vacume you would recoment to 
some one who has tial flors and lenoliem and dog hair. There are no carpits in 
my place except for down at the boddem of the stairs. That is another thing I 
am wondering if there are any vacumes that will do stairs? Or 
If you would need to block off the stairs so that it doesn't go down them and 
brake? I live alone and I have a dog who does shed so dog hair is a consurne as 
well as trying to find something that works well with voice over as far as a 
app that I can set up with out sighted help. As well as I am wondering about 
priceing for these things? Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from New lIskeard 
Ontario Canada.-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: July 17, 2022 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Roomba

The Roborock has a Siri command where  you can ask the Roborock where it is, 
and it'll announce "I'm over here." It would be nice if it beeped until you 
found it, but it works.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Roomba

Will it make a sound so you can locate it if it stops somewhere other than the 
docking station??
At 09:58 PM 7/16/2022, you wrote:
>We bought it from Amazon as part of Amazon Prime Days.
>
>I'd say Mike's review was spot on. My sighted wife and I set it up 
>together, but based on what I could see, I could have done the setup 
>completely by myself, except for maybe finding the wi-fi button on the 
>Roborock. Except for identifying the rooms on the map, the app seems 
>completely accessible. Looks like once we identify the rooms, I'll be 
>able to send it to a specific room to clean with the app or a voice 
>command. I set up the Siri shortcuts, so just with voice commands I can 
>start it cleaning, pause it, send it back to it's docking station and 
>change the strength of the suction.
>
>We've only run it through the house once, but it sucked up quite a bit 
>of dog and cat hair. It was pretty cool to see it navigate each room. 
>Now that it's been through the house once, I wonder if it'll be quicker 
>the next time, although except for the dining room with all of it's 
>chairs, it seemed to be pretty quick and smart. I'm looking forward to 
>having it stay on top of the pet hair throughout the week, especially 
>under the bed. I'm also hoping it'll help my wife with her allergies.
>
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>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>Kay Malmquist
>Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 7:23 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Roomba
>
>I will be interested in what you think.  I also saw Mike's review and 
>thought seriously about buying the Roborock.  Do you have any 
>recommendations as to the best place to buy one?  Years ago, I had two 
>Roomba's, one for downstairs and one for up.  I liked them and miss 
>them for the in-between vacuum jobs they did.
>
>Kay Malmquist
>kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
>Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of 
>its strength.
>Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
>To: 
>Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 5:35 PM
>Subject: RE: Roomba
>
>
>A few weeks ago Mike Arrigo  posted the following 
>review of several robot vacuum cleaners. I used this myself, and just a 
>few minutes ago, we let our Roborock start it's maiden voyage around our house.
>
>I remember a while back there was some discussion about the 
>accessibility of apps that are used to control robot vacuums. I now 
>have a small robot vacuum collection and have tried each brand's app so 
>I have an idea about which apps work the best with Voiceover. Some are 
>definitely better than others.
>I'm going to group these in to three categories, accessible or mostly 
>accessible, that is, everything is well labeled or at least easy to use 
>with Voiceover's recognition abilities, useable but not the most 
>accessible, meaning you can use the app but some of the controls are 
>not labeled and you will have to memorize the order of where they are 
>on the screen, and mostly unuseable, that is, you will need sighted 
>help to do at least some things in the app since they are impossible to 
>do using voiceover. One other thing to note, many robots will map your 
>house and let you define rooms or no go zones by drawing on the map. 
>Unfortunately there is no way to do that using Voiceover with any of 
>these apps and I'm not even sure how that could be made accessible 
>since it involves drawing, so your choices are to get sighted help if 
>you want to use 

RE: question how to stop my i pad and i phone saying the word soashel after some folders and before you flip to diffrentpages on the screen.

[michv]

Hi I tried that and no go. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Delia 
Avina
Sent: July 14, 2022 10:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question how to stop my i pad and i phone saying the word soashel 
after some folders and before you flip to diffrentpages on the screen.

 

Maybe turn off and on voiceover

Sent from my iPod





On Jul 13, 2022, at 9:42 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca   
wrote:



Hi all I have a I pad forth gen. on this I pad I have a folder called soashel. 
I have named that folder but now when ever I swipe to different pages it says 
the word soashel before each page instead of saying page 1 page 2 etc. this is 
also happening on my I phone as well as some times it is saying it before the 
name of different apps. I just want it to say page 1 page 2 not soashel page 1 
page 2 etc. I am wondering how I can accomplish this? I have tried doing a 3 
finger press and hold to try to re name the folder to something elts when it is 
saying soashel instead of the name of different folders I only have 1 folder 
called soashel but some times vo is saying the word soashel before the word 
games for my games folder. I have tried clearing the text and rrighting the 
word games but it is still doing this. Since I have the same layout of folders 
on my I phone 8 From Mich. 

 

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question how to stop my i pad and i phone saying the word soashel after some folders and before you flip to diffrentpages on the screen.

[michv]

Hi all I have a I pad forth gen. on this I pad I have a folder called
soashel. I have named that folder but now when ever I swipe to different
pages it says the word soashel before each page instead of saying page 1
page 2 etc. this is also happening on my I phone as well as some times it is
saying it before the name of different apps. I just want it to say page 1
page 2 not soashel page 1 page 2 etc. I am wondering how I can accomplish
this? I have tried doing a 3 finger press and hold to try to re name the
folder to something elts when it is saying soashel instead of the name of
different folders I only have 1 folder called soashel but some times vo is
saying the word soashel before the word games for my games folder. I have
tried clearing the text and rrighting the word games but it is still doing
this. Since I have the same layout of folders on my I phone 8 From Mich. 

 

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RE: trying to pair my orbit wrighter i got for my birthday to my I Phone 8 running the newest version of ios.

[michv]

Hi Ritchard I managed to pair the orbit righter and also joind the orbit 
righter list. Many thanks for your help. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: June 23, 2022 5:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trying to pair my orbit wrighter i got for my birthday to my I 
Phone 8 running the newest version of ios.

 

>From the user guide for pairing the Writer:

 

Step 1. Turn on the Orbit Writer by pressing Up + Down Arrow keys. It responds 
with a short vibration pulse.

Step 2. You can connect the Orbit Writer to multiple devices. Each connection 
is called a channel. Channel 1, the default channel, is already set. Enable 
pairing on channel 1 by pressing and holding Space + Left Arrow + Dot 1 until 
you feel a short vibration pulse.

Step 3 is where you pick the writer in the list of braille devices.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 23, 2022, at 2:32 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Mitch, you also may want to join the Orbit Reader list where all things Orbit 
are discussed.

subscription address: orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 23, 2022, at 2:29 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

You may want to look at the pairing instructions again.

You have to put it in pairing mode. Just turning it on doesn't do it.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 23, 2022, at 2:26 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca   
wrote:



Hi I didn’t pick a channel. What I did was I turned on the wrighter and whent 
into settings voice over braille and looked for the wrighter to show up there. 
All that is showing up is my focus 40 fifth gen. and it is showing up as 
connected but not my orbit wrighter. Any help with trying to pair this would 
help. I just now turned it back on and tried to see if it would see it and it 
is still not showing up in the list. Many thanks. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: June 23, 2022 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: trying to pair my orbit wrighter i got for my birthday to my I 
Phone 8 running the newest version of ios.

 

If you got the Writer into pairing mode, it will show up there.

 

My guess is, that you maybe didn’t get it into pairing mode?

 

Did you pick a channel?

 

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca  
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: trying to pair my orbit wrighter i got for my birthday to my I Phone 8 
running the newest version of ios.

 

Hi all. I got a Orbit Wrighter for my birthday. When I go under accessibillidey 
voice over braille and choose a braille display I don’t see it in the listings. 
According to the user guide it should show up and say orbit wrighter 20. I see 
only my focus 40 display under the braille displays. I whent to forget this 
device to see if it would show up after dxoing that and still nothing. Many 
thanks for any help you can give me with this. From Mich. 

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RE: trying to pair my orbit wrighter i got for my birthday to my I Phone 8 running the newest version of ios.

[michv]

Hi I didn’t pick a channel. What I did was I turned on the wrighter and whent 
into settings voice over braille and looked for the wrighter to show up there. 
All that is showing up is my focus 40 fifth gen. and it is showing up as 
connected but not my orbit wrighter. Any help with trying to pair this would 
help. I just now turned it back on and tried to see if it would see it and it 
is still not showing up in the list. Many thanks. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: June 23, 2022 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trying to pair my orbit wrighter i got for my birthday to my I 
Phone 8 running the newest version of ios.

 

If you got the Writer into pairing mode, it will show up there.

 

My guess is, that you maybe didn’t get it into pairing mode?

 

Did you pick a channel?

 

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca  
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: trying to pair my orbit wrighter i got for my birthday to my I Phone 8 
running the newest version of ios.

 

Hi all. I got a Orbit Wrighter for my birthday. When I go under accessibillidey 
voice over braille and choose a braille display I don’t see it in the listings. 
According to the user guide it should show up and say orbit wrighter 20. I see 
only my focus 40 display under the braille displays. I whent to forget this 
device to see if it would show up after dxoing that and still nothing. Many 
thanks for any help you can give me with this. From Mich. 

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trying to pair my orbit wrighter i got for my birthday to my I Phone 8 running the newest version of ios.

[michv]

Hi all. I got a Orbit Wrighter for my birthday. When I go under
accessibillidey voice over braille and choose a braille display I don't see
it in the listings. According to the user guide it should show up and say
orbit wrighter 20. I see only my focus 40 display under the braille
displays. I whent to forget this device to see if it would show up after
dxoing that and still nothing. Many thanks for any help you can give me with
this. From Mich. 

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