subject:"A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable"

RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

2022-11-28 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Karen,

1.
I am replying, on-list.

2.
Yes, the problem can be somewhat annoying, at times.  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Karen Delzer  
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2022 8:10 PM
To: M. Taylor 
Subject: Re: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Mark, I am having a similar problem. Some of the words are louder at the 
beginning so they  can really startle a person. Also, all of the Spectrum 
commercials are louder, and some others are, as well. It's more than annoying.


Karen



On 11/23/2022 7:42 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I know this was discussed in the distant pass but I do not remember if 
> a resolution was determined.
>
> Okay, here is the scenario:
>
> 1.
> This problem only occurs with the TVOS TTS speech engine.  All other 
> audio from Apple TV is heard as expected.
>
> 2.
> This problem only occurs when the television is connected, via an 
> optical cable, to a sound bar.
>
> 3.
> This problem only occurs when VoiceOver is heard through the sound bar.
>
> 4.
> I am using the Alex TTS engine on my Apple TV HD running the latest 
> version of TVOS.
>
> The problem is that the first parts of words, spoken by the TTS, are 
> getting dropped.
>
> So, for example, the word "channel" comes out "anel."  The word "Thursday"
> comes out "stday," and so forth.
>
> Any ideas on what is causing this or how it can be resolved?
>
> All replies greatly appreciated.
>
> Mark
>

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RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

2022-11-28 Thread rick.alfaro

I've experienced this issue quite often and resolve it in the same way you do. 
This works for me every time.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 9:00 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

When the happens to me, I usually hit the home key twice and close all of the 
apps. 


> On Nov 25, 2022, at 5:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> To answer your question:
> 
> When I listen to VoiceOver via my sound bar, connected by optical cable, the 
> first parts of words are cut off or, not heard.  This is not constant but it 
> happens enough so that, if one was not familiar with the text that is being 
> spoken, one may not understand the words.
> 
> Now because I can enjoy audio output from both the television's built-in 
> speakers and the sound bar, simultaneously, I simply lower the volume on the 
> sound bar when navigating the Apple TV via VoiceOver.  Again, this does not 
> happen consistently but it does happen on a regular basis.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 12:47 AM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
> through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> When this problem happens,
> What actually happens?
> 
> I'm asking now as you've made me wonder about something that is happening on 
> my tv and sound bar when streaming to another speaker.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Friday, 25 November 2022 7:00 pm
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
> through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable
> 
> Hello Simon and thank you for following up on this.
> 
> Well, I changed my Apple TV's TTS to my beloved Samantha and, while doing so 
> greatly reduced the degree of the drop-outs, the issue remains.
> 
> However, I discovered a couple of things that lead me to believe that the 
> problem is not VoiceOver.
> 
> First, I realized that this problem does not occur when the television's 
> native screen reader speaks.  For the record I have a Sony X85K model which 
> is running the latest version of Android 10.  This television is considered a 
> Google TV, as opposed to an Android TV.  I have set the television's OS to 
> use Google's original TTS engine, my favorite one, of course.  
> 
> Second, I discovered, today, that my DVD player's native screen reader, which 
> I believe is developed by Samsung, has the same drop-out issue as the TTS on 
> my Apple TV.
> 
> Again, the drop-out problem only occurs when using anything other than the 
> TV's native TTS when connected to my sound bar via the optical cable.
> 
> I would conclude that the problem may be with my sound bar, which I purchased 
>  for a mere $39, but the fact that the native television's TTS works just 
> fine, would not seem to support such a conclusion.
> 
> Regardless, while the issue may be a bit annoying, it is certainly not a 
> show-stopper by any means.
> 
> Again, thank you for the follow-up.
> 
> Oh, before I forget, this problem occurs even when I disable the television's 
> native TTs.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 4:36 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
> through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I've got my apple tv 4k gen one connected to my tv with an HDMI 1.4 cable,  
> Then my tv to my sonos play bar with an optical cable,
> 
> This is one of the older original sonos play bars from probably 10 years 
> back,  I have my ATV updated to the latest prod tv OS version, And I'm using 
> I think it's karen the Australian voice now for the tts,
> 
> And I'm not noticing this like you are,
> 
> Have you tried changing your aTV voice to something other than alex?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2022 4:42 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through 
> a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I know this was discussed in the distant pass but I do not remember if a 
> resolution was determined.
> 
> Okay, here is the scenario:
> 
> 1.
> This problem only occurs with the TVOS TTS speech engine.  All other audio 
> from Apple TV is heard as expected.
>

Re: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

2022-11-26 Thread Tom Rash

When the happens to me, I usually hit the home key twice and close all of the 
apps. 


> On Nov 25, 2022, at 5:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> To answer your question:
> 
> When I listen to VoiceOver via my sound bar, connected by optical cable, the 
> first parts of words are cut off or, not heard.  This is not constant but it 
> happens enough so that, if one was not familiar with the text that is being 
> spoken, one may not understand the words.
> 
> Now because I can enjoy audio output from both the television's built-in 
> speakers and the sound bar, simultaneously, I simply lower the volume on the 
> sound bar when navigating the Apple TV via VoiceOver.  Again, this does not 
> happen consistently but it does happen on a regular basis.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 12:47 AM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
> through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> When this problem happens,
> What actually happens?
> 
> I'm asking now as you've made me wonder about something that is happening on 
> my tv and sound bar when streaming to another speaker.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Friday, 25 November 2022 7:00 pm
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
> through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable
> 
> Hello Simon and thank you for following up on this.
> 
> Well, I changed my Apple TV's TTS to my beloved Samantha and, while doing so 
> greatly reduced the degree of the drop-outs, the issue remains.
> 
> However, I discovered a couple of things that lead me to believe that the 
> problem is not VoiceOver.
> 
> First, I realized that this problem does not occur when the television's 
> native screen reader speaks.  For the record I have a Sony X85K model which 
> is running the latest version of Android 10.  This television is considered a 
> Google TV, as opposed to an Android TV.  I have set the television's OS to 
> use Google's original TTS engine, my favorite one, of course.  
> 
> Second, I discovered, today, that my DVD player's native screen reader, which 
> I believe is developed by Samsung, has the same drop-out issue as the TTS on 
> my Apple TV.
> 
> Again, the drop-out problem only occurs when using anything other than the 
> TV's native TTS when connected to my sound bar via the optical cable.
> 
> I would conclude that the problem may be with my sound bar, which I purchased 
>  for a mere $39, but the fact that the native television's TTS works just 
> fine, would not seem to support such a conclusion.
> 
> Regardless, while the issue may be a bit annoying, it is certainly not a 
> show-stopper by any means.
> 
> Again, thank you for the follow-up.
> 
> Oh, before I forget, this problem occurs even when I disable the television's 
> native TTs.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 4:36 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
> through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I've got my apple tv 4k gen one connected to my tv with an HDMI 1.4 cable,  
> Then my tv to my sonos play bar with an optical cable,
> 
> This is one of the older original sonos play bars from probably 10 years 
> back,  I have my ATV updated to the latest prod tv OS version, And I'm using 
> I think it's karen the Australian voice now for the tts,
> 
> And I'm not noticing this like you are,
> 
> Have you tried changing your aTV voice to something other than alex?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2022 4:42 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through 
> a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I know this was discussed in the distant pass but I do not remember if a 
> resolution was determined.
> 
> Okay, here is the scenario:
> 
> 1.
> This problem only occurs with the TVOS TTS speech engine.  All other audio 
> from Apple TV is heard as expected.
> 
> 2.
> This problem only occurs when the television is connected, via an optical 
> cable, to a sound bar.
> 
> 3.
> This problem only occurs when VoiceOver is heard through the sound bar.  
> 
> 4.
> I am using the Alex TTS engine on my Apple TV HD running the latest version 
> of TVOS.
> 
> The problem is that the first parts of words, spoken by the TTS, are getting 
> dropped.
> 
> So,

RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

2022-11-25 Thread M. Taylor

Hi Sieghard,

I am so glad you touched on this aspect of my setup.

First, let me say that there are sound bars on the market that are designed 
specifically for those with extreme hearing loss.  While I do have some 
significant hearing loss, it is not extreme enough across a wide enough sound 
spectrum to use these specialized devices.

Second, I was prepared to spend up to $1000 for a sound bar for my new 
television but, surprisingly, after testing a few mid to high end models, I 
found that they did not meet my needs.  Why?  

My hearing loss is in the mid to upper registry of the sound spectrum.  My 
hearing in the mid to lower registry is almost perfect.  Very often, I can hear 
low sound frequencies across great distances that many cannot hear.

High quality sound bars, such as the SONOS, tend to be, from my listening 
perspective, bass-heavy.  Even when one reduces the bass via an equalizer  I 
cannot seem to get that very crisp sharp upper registry sound that I prefer to 
balance out the bass for me.

I recently discovered that there is an entire class of mini sound bars that are 
intended for use with a PC or a small television in an apartment or shared 
space setting.  These sound bars, which are typically 1/3 to 1/4 the size of a 
standard sized sound bar, do not have very much bass; in fact, they tend to 
have a very cheap, more old fashion transistor radio feel that is absolutely 
perfect for me because they are high registry heavy.  It just so happens that 
these mini sound bars are extremely low cost.

It was for the sound spectrum, not the price, that I purchased my current sound 
bar which, among other things, has an enhanced dialog mode that is 
out-of-this-world perfect for me..

So, when I watch anything on my new Sony TV, I set the televisions built-in 
speakers to a low volume setting for the bass, then I adjust the mini sound bar 
to whatever level I choose.  This way I can enjoy the entire spectrum of sound 
without having to increase the volume of either device to what would be 
considered an uncomfortable level to anyone with “normal” hearing.  

As I have always believed, bigger is not always better and some of the best 
things in life are, if not free, then low cost.  (big, big, big smile).

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

And just one other thought, Mark, you usually tend to enjoy quality and you now 
have a new, high-end TV, but you are pairing it with a $39 soundbar? Really? I 
sometimes have customers who think they are better shots if they buy a $2,000 
rifle instead of one which costs $1,000 but then they put a $300 rifle scope on 
it and my advise usually is that they are better off buying the $1,000 rifle 
and a $1,000 scope. And of course in this example now level of quality makes a 
difference if they don't know how to shoot 藍

-Original Message-
From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 9:51 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

There might be a difference between the audio from the TV's screenreader 
getting passed to the soundbar and the audio from connected devices which has 
to get "passed through" the TV to the soundbar.
Also, make sure you have quality HDMI cables supporting HDMI 2.1 connecting 
your Apple TV to the TV, here is information about this:

https://www.hdmi.org/spec/hdmi2_1


Original Message-
From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:00 PM
To: mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hello Simon and thank you for following up on this.

Well, I changed my Apple TV's TTS to my beloved Samantha and, while doing so 
greatly reduced the degree of the drop-outs, the issue remains.

However, I discovered a couple of things that lead me to believe that the 
problem is not VoiceOver.

First, I realized that this problem does not occur when the television's native 
screen reader speaks.  For the record I have a Sony X85K model which is running 
the latest version of Android 10.  This television is considered a Google TV, 
as opposed to an Android TV.  I have set the television's OS to use Google's 
original TTS engine, my favorite one, of course.  

Second, I discovered, today, that my DVD player's native screen reader, which I 
believe is developed by Samsung, has the same drop-out issue as the TTS

RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

2022-11-25 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Simon,

To answer your question:

When I listen to VoiceOver via my sound bar, connected by optical cable, the 
first parts of words are cut off or, not heard.  This is not constant but it 
happens enough so that, if one was not familiar with the text that is being 
spoken, one may not understand the words.

Now because I can enjoy audio output from both the television's built-in 
speakers and the sound bar, simultaneously, I simply lower the volume on the 
sound bar when navigating the Apple TV via VoiceOver.  Again, this does not 
happen consistently but it does happen on a regular basis.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 12:47 AM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hi Mark,

 When this problem happens,
What actually happens?

I'm asking now as you've made me wonder about something that is happening on my 
tv and sound bar when streaming to another speaker.

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Friday, 25 November 2022 7:00 pm
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hello Simon and thank you for following up on this.

Well, I changed my Apple TV's TTS to my beloved Samantha and, while doing so 
greatly reduced the degree of the drop-outs, the issue remains.

However, I discovered a couple of things that lead me to believe that the 
problem is not VoiceOver.

First, I realized that this problem does not occur when the television's native 
screen reader speaks.  For the record I have a Sony X85K model which is running 
the latest version of Android 10.  This television is considered a Google TV, 
as opposed to an Android TV.  I have set the television's OS to use Google's 
original TTS engine, my favorite one, of course.  

Second, I discovered, today, that my DVD player's native screen reader, which I 
believe is developed by Samsung, has the same drop-out issue as the TTS on my 
Apple TV.

Again, the drop-out problem only occurs when using anything other than the TV's 
native TTS when connected to my sound bar via the optical cable.

I would conclude that the problem may be with my sound bar, which I purchased  
for a mere $39, but the fact that the native television's TTS works just fine, 
would not seem to support such a conclusion.

Regardless, while the issue may be a bit annoying, it is certainly not a 
show-stopper by any means.

Again, thank you for the follow-up.

Oh, before I forget, this problem occurs even when I disable the television's 
native TTs.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 4:36 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hi Mark,

I've got my apple tv 4k gen one connected to my tv with an HDMI 1.4 cable,  
Then my tv to my sonos play bar with an optical cable,

This is one of the older original sonos play bars from probably 10 years back,  
I have my ATV updated to the latest prod tv OS version, And I'm using I think 
it's karen the Australian voice now for the tts,

And I'm not noticing this like you are,

Have you tried changing your aTV voice to something other than alex?

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2022 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a 
Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hello Everyone,

I know this was discussed in the distant pass but I do not remember if a 
resolution was determined.

Okay, here is the scenario:

1.
This problem only occurs with the TVOS TTS speech engine.  All other audio from 
Apple TV is heard as expected.

2.
This problem only occurs when the television is connected, via an optical 
cable, to a sound bar.

3.
This problem only occurs when VoiceOver is heard through the sound bar.  

4.
I am using the Alex TTS engine on my Apple TV HD running the latest version of 
TVOS.

The problem is that the first parts of words, spoken by the TTS, are getting 
dropped.

So, for example, the word "channel" comes out "anel."  The word "Thursday"
comes out "stday," and so forth.

Any ideas on what is causing this or how it can be resolved?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

2022-11-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

And just one other thought, Mark, you usually tend to enjoy quality and you now 
have a new, high-end TV, but you are pairing it with a $39 soundbar? Really? I 
sometimes have customers who think they are better shots if they buy a $2,000 
rifle instead of one which costs $1,000 but then they put a $300 rifle scope on 
it and my advise usually is that they are better off buying the $1,000 rifle 
and a $1,000 scope. And of course in this example now level of quality makes a 
difference if they don't know how to shoot 藍



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable



There might be a difference between the audio from the TV's screenreader 
getting passed to the soundbar and the audio from connected devices which has 
to get "passed through" the TV to the soundbar.

Also, make sure you have quality HDMI cables supporting HDMI 2.1 connecting 
your Apple TV to the TV, here is information about this:



https://www.hdmi.org/spec/hdmi2_1





Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:00 PM

To: vipho...@googlegroups.com

Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable



Hello Simon and thank you for following up on this.



Well, I changed my Apple TV's TTS to my beloved Samantha and, while doing so 
greatly reduced the degree of the drop-outs, the issue remains.



However, I discovered a couple of things that lead me to believe that the 
problem is not VoiceOver.



First, I realized that this problem does not occur when the television's native 
screen reader speaks.  For the record I have a Sony X85K model which is running 
the latest version of Android 10.  This television is considered a Google TV, 
as opposed to an Android TV.  I have set the television's OS to use Google's 
original TTS engine, my favorite one, of course.



Second, I discovered, today, that my DVD player's native screen reader, which I 
believe is developed by Samsung, has the same drop-out issue as the TTS on my 
Apple TV.



Again, the drop-out problem only occurs when using anything other than the TV's 
native TTS when connected to my sound bar via the optical cable.



I would conclude that the problem may be with my sound bar, which I purchased  
for a mere $39, but the fact that the native television's TTS works just fine, 
would not seem to support such a conclusion.



Regardless, while the issue may be a bit annoying, it is certainly not a 
show-stopper by any means.



Again, thank you for the follow-up.



Oh, before I forget, this problem occurs even when I disable the television's 
native TTs.



Mark



-Original Message-

From: vipho...@googlegroups.com 
mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 4:36 PM

To: vipho...@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable



Hi Mark,



I've got my apple tv 4k gen one connected to my tv with an HDMI 1.4 cable,  
Then my tv to my sonos play bar with an optical cable,



This is one of the older original sonos play bars from probably 10 years back,  
I have my ATV updated to the latest prod tv OS version, And I'm using I think 
it's karen the Australian voice now for the tts,



And I'm not noticing this like you are,



Have you tried changing your aTV voice to something other than alex?



-Original Message-

From: vipho...@googlegroups.com 
mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2022 4:42 am

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com

Subject: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a 
Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable



Hello Everyone,



I know this was discussed in the distant pass but I do not remember if a 
resolution was determined.



Okay, here is the scenario:



1.

This problem only occurs with the TVOS TTS speech engine.  All other audio from 
Apple TV is heard as expected.



2.

This problem only occurs when the television is connected, via an optical 
cable, to a sound bar.



3.

This problem only occurs

RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

2022-11-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

There might be a difference between the audio from the TV's screenreader 
getting passed to the soundbar and the audio from connected devices which has 
to get "passed through" the TV to the soundbar.
Also, make sure you have quality HDMI cables supporting HDMI 2.1 connecting 
your Apple TV to the TV, here is information about this:

https://www.hdmi.org/spec/hdmi2_1


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:00 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hello Simon and thank you for following up on this.

Well, I changed my Apple TV's TTS to my beloved Samantha and, while doing so 
greatly reduced the degree of the drop-outs, the issue remains.

However, I discovered a couple of things that lead me to believe that the 
problem is not VoiceOver.

First, I realized that this problem does not occur when the television's native 
screen reader speaks.  For the record I have a Sony X85K model which is running 
the latest version of Android 10.  This television is considered a Google TV, 
as opposed to an Android TV.  I have set the television's OS to use Google's 
original TTS engine, my favorite one, of course.  

Second, I discovered, today, that my DVD player's native screen reader, which I 
believe is developed by Samsung, has the same drop-out issue as the TTS on my 
Apple TV.

Again, the drop-out problem only occurs when using anything other than the TV's 
native TTS when connected to my sound bar via the optical cable.

I would conclude that the problem may be with my sound bar, which I purchased  
for a mere $39, but the fact that the native television's TTS works just fine, 
would not seem to support such a conclusion.

Regardless, while the issue may be a bit annoying, it is certainly not a 
show-stopper by any means.

Again, thank you for the follow-up.

Oh, before I forget, this problem occurs even when I disable the television's 
native TTs.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 4:36 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hi Mark,

I've got my apple tv 4k gen one connected to my tv with an HDMI 1.4 cable,  
Then my tv to my sonos play bar with an optical cable,

This is one of the older original sonos play bars from probably 10 years back,  
I have my ATV updated to the latest prod tv OS version, And I'm using I think 
it's karen the Australian voice now for the tts,

And I'm not noticing this like you are,

Have you tried changing your aTV voice to something other than alex?

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2022 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a 
Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hello Everyone,

I know this was discussed in the distant pass but I do not remember if a 
resolution was determined.

Okay, here is the scenario:

1.
This problem only occurs with the TVOS TTS speech engine.  All other audio from 
Apple TV is heard as expected.

2.
This problem only occurs when the television is connected, via an optical 
cable, to a sound bar.

3.
This problem only occurs when VoiceOver is heard through the sound bar.  

4.
I am using the Alex TTS engine on my Apple TV HD running the latest version of 
TVOS.

The problem is that the first parts of words, spoken by the TTS, are getting 
dropped.

So, for example, the word "channel" comes out "anel."  The word "Thursday"
comes out "stday," and so forth.

Any ideas on what is causing this or how it can be resolved?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

2022-11-24 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Simon and thank you for following up on this.

Well, I changed my Apple TV's TTS to my beloved Samantha and, while doing so 
greatly reduced the degree of the drop-outs, the issue remains.

However, I discovered a couple of things that lead me to believe that the 
problem is not VoiceOver.

First, I realized that this problem does not occur when the television's native 
screen reader speaks.  For the record I have a Sony X85K model which is running 
the latest version of Android 10.  This television is considered a Google TV, 
as opposed to an Android TV.  I have set the television's OS to use Google's 
original TTS engine, my favorite one, of course.  

Second, I discovered, today, that my DVD player's native screen reader, which I 
believe is developed by Samsung, has the same drop-out issue as the TTS on my 
Apple TV.

Again, the drop-out problem only occurs when using anything other than the TV's 
native TTS when connected to my sound bar via the optical cable.

I would conclude that the problem may be with my sound bar, which I purchased  
for a mere $39, but the fact that the native television's TTS works just fine, 
would not seem to support such a conclusion.

Regardless, while the issue may be a bit annoying, it is certainly not a 
show-stopper by any means.

Again, thank you for the follow-up.

Oh, before I forget, this problem occurs even when I disable the television's 
native TTs.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 4:36 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard 
through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hi Mark,

I've got my apple tv 4k gen one connected to my tv with an HDMI 1.4 cable,  
Then my tv to my sonos play bar with an optical cable,

This is one of the older original sonos play bars from probably 10 years back,  
I have my ATV updated to the latest prod tv OS version, And I'm using I think 
it's karen the Australian voice now for the tts,

And I'm not noticing this like you are,

Have you tried changing your aTV voice to something other than alex?

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2022 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a 
Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

Hello Everyone,

I know this was discussed in the distant pass but I do not remember if a 
resolution was determined.

Okay, here is the scenario:

1.
This problem only occurs with the TVOS TTS speech engine.  All other audio from 
Apple TV is heard as expected.

2.
This problem only occurs when the television is connected, via an optical 
cable, to a sound bar.

3.
This problem only occurs when VoiceOver is heard through the sound bar.  

4.
I am using the Alex TTS engine on my Apple TV HD running the latest version of 
TVOS.

The problem is that the first parts of words, spoken by the TTS, are getting 
dropped.

So, for example, the word "channel" comes out "anel."  The word "Thursday"
comes out "stday," and so forth.

Any ideas on what is causing this or how it can be resolved?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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A Question about corrupted TVOS VoiceOver Output when Heard through a Sound Bar that is Connected to Television via Optical Cable

2022-11-23 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Everyone,

I know this was discussed in the distant pass but I do not remember if a
resolution was determined.

Okay, here is the scenario:

1.
This problem only occurs with the TVOS TTS speech engine.  All other audio
from Apple TV is heard as expected.

2.
This problem only occurs when the television is connected, via an optical
cable, to a sound bar.

3.
This problem only occurs when VoiceOver is heard through the sound bar.  

4.
I am using the Alex TTS engine on my Apple TV HD running the latest version
of TVOS.

The problem is that the first parts of words, spoken by the TTS, are getting
dropped.

So, for example, the word "channel" comes out "anel."  The word "Thursday"
comes out "stday," and so forth.

Any ideas on what is causing this or how it can be resolved?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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