Re: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

2015-07-20 Thread Conrad Bennett
If you do an encrypted backup you just get one entry if you do not encrypt you 
get backups by date.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 20, 2015, at 1:52 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Today, in preparation for installing a copy of iOS 9 on one of my iPhones, I
 decided, after backing up both my 5 S and 6 Plus, both running iOS 8.4, to
 see what backups are being listed in iTunes.  
 
 Now keep in mind that I am using iTunes 11 for Windows on a Windows 7 PC but
 I will appreciate replies from Mac users, as well as PC users running the
 latest version of iTunes.
 
 I noticed that for both my 5 S and my 6 Plus, there is only one backup
 listed in the table of backups while there are multiple backup entries for
 my iPhone 4, 4 S, and even my old 3GS.  The multiple entries for these older
 devices are delineated by their dates.  I have not attached these older
 devices to my PC in over two years.  
 
 The only explanation I can come up with, on my own that is, is that only the
 5 S and the 6 Plus are using encrypted backups.  Can that be the reason for
 each device's singular backup entry?  I expected to see multiple backup
 entries, delineated by date, for both my 5 S and 6 Plus but there are none.
 There is only one entry for each device.
 
 So, I would ask you to let me know what you have listed in your iTunes
 backup table for your series 5 or series 6 device.  To see your list of
 backups,do the following:  
 
 1.
 Open iTunes on your computer.
 
 2.
 From the Edit menu, select Preferences.
 
 3.
 Select the Device Tab.  Here you will see a list of device backups.
 
 Thank you in advance for any feedback on this.
 
 Mark
 
 
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RE: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

2015-07-20 Thread Alan Lemly
Mark,

I'm running iTunes for Windows 11.4.0.18 and often make an encrypted backup
of my iPhone 6 running iOS 8.3 as I also did with my previous iPhone 5. I
had 8 backup files listed in the Devices dialog under Edit, Preferences all
of which begin with Alan's iPhone. Some of  the backups listed also included
the date next to Alan's iPhone but about half of them only said Alan's
iPhone. If I lingered over the specific backup, ZoomText would announce the
date it was made even though no date text was included in the list.

I then researched where iTunes places encrypted backup files on the computer
and found it is in a folder which includes the name MobileSync\Backup. The
actual subfolder name is much longer and depends on the version of Windows
you're running as to its location. Here's a link to the Apple Support
article in case you're interested:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215

This folder had a series of 8 subfolders under it which I assume correspond
to the 8 backups I previously mentioned. The files under these subfolders
included a string of alphanumeric characters in their names but had no file
extensions. I'm telling you this in case you want to poke around with
Windows Explorer.

Good luck and I hope this helps.

Alan Lemly

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Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

Hello Everyone,

Today, in preparation for installing a copy of iOS 9 on one of my iPhones, I
decided, after backing up both my 5 S and 6 Plus, both running iOS 8.4, to
see what backups are being listed in iTunes.  

Now keep in mind that I am using iTunes 11 for Windows on a Windows 7 PC but
I will appreciate replies from Mac users, as well as PC users running the
latest version of iTunes.

I noticed that for both my 5 S and my 6 Plus, there is only one backup
listed in the table of backups while there are multiple backup entries for
my iPhone 4, 4 S, and even my old 3GS.  The multiple entries for these older
devices are delineated by their dates.  I have not attached these older
devices to my PC in over two years.  

The only explanation I can come up with, on my own that is, is that only the
5 S and the 6 Plus are using encrypted backups.  Can that be the reason for
each device's singular backup entry?  I expected to see multiple backup
entries, delineated by date, for both my 5 S and 6 Plus but there are none.
There is only one entry for each device.

So, I would ask you to let me know what you have listed in your iTunes
backup table for your series 5 or series 6 device.  To see your list of
backups,do the following:  

1.
Open iTunes on your computer.

2.
From the Edit menu, select Preferences.

3.
Select the Device Tab.  Here you will see a list of device backups.

Thank you in advance for any feedback on this.

Mark


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RE: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

2015-07-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Alan,

Thank  you so much for this information; the website is great.

Based on your reply, I would wager that you have not given your device a new 
name other than that which was set by default.

I make a practice of renaming each of my iOS devices immediately upon purchase. 
 If one does not do this, then, in theory, all of the devices would have the 
same name.  This could be an advantage or a disadvantage, depending upon one's 
needs.

My point is that, assuming that you have not renamed your latest device, if you 
are encrypting your backups, only one file is being updated/created.  The 
remaining backups would be from your non-encrypted backup sessions.  

If you have not done so, rename your latest device to something like Alan's 
iPhone 6 or something that is easily distinguishable from your other devices.  
Then make an encrypted backup once or twice and see how many entries are 
created and let us know.

Thanks again for your help on this.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

Mark,

I'm running iTunes for Windows 11.4.0.18 and often make an encrypted backup of 
my iPhone 6 running iOS 8.3 as I also did with my previous iPhone 5. I had 8 
backup files listed in the Devices dialog under Edit, Preferences all of which 
begin with Alan's iPhone. Some of  the backups listed also included the date 
next to Alan's iPhone but about half of them only said Alan's iPhone. If I 
lingered over the specific backup, ZoomText would announce the date it was made 
even though no date text was included in the list.

I then researched where iTunes places encrypted backup files on the computer 
and found it is in a folder which includes the name MobileSync\Backup. The 
actual subfolder name is much longer and depends on the version of Windows 
you're running as to its location. Here's a link to the Apple Support article 
in case you're interested:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215

This folder had a series of 8 subfolders under it which I assume correspond to 
the 8 backups I previously mentioned. The files under these subfolders included 
a string of alphanumeric characters in their names but had no file extensions. 
I'm telling you this in case you want to poke around with Windows Explorer.

Good luck and I hope this helps.

Alan Lemly

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M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

Hello Everyone,

Today, in preparation for installing a copy of iOS 9 on one of my iPhones, I 
decided, after backing up both my 5 S and 6 Plus, both running iOS 8.4, to see 
what backups are being listed in iTunes.  

Now keep in mind that I am using iTunes 11 for Windows on a Windows 7 PC but I 
will appreciate replies from Mac users, as well as PC users running the latest 
version of iTunes.

I noticed that for both my 5 S and my 6 Plus, there is only one backup listed 
in the table of backups while there are multiple backup entries for my iPhone 
4, 4 S, and even my old 3GS.  The multiple entries for these older devices are 
delineated by their dates.  I have not attached these older devices to my PC in 
over two years.  

The only explanation I can come up with, on my own that is, is that only the
5 S and the 6 Plus are using encrypted backups.  Can that be the reason for 
each device's singular backup entry?  I expected to see multiple backup 
entries, delineated by date, for both my 5 S and 6 Plus but there are none.
There is only one entry for each device.

So, I would ask you to let me know what you have listed in your iTunes backup 
table for your series 5 or series 6 device.  To see your list of backups,do the 
following:  

1.
Open iTunes on your computer.

2.
From the Edit menu, select Preferences.

3.
Select the Device Tab.  Here you will see a list of device backups.

Thank you in advance for any feedback on this.

Mark


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RE: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

2015-07-20 Thread M. Taylor
Thank you for confirming this, Conrad.  It is most appreciated.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Conrad Bennett
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

If you do an encrypted backup you just get one entry if you do not encrypt you 
get backups by date.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 20, 2015, at 1:52 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Today, in preparation for installing a copy of iOS 9 on one of my 
 iPhones, I decided, after backing up both my 5 S and 6 Plus, both 
 running iOS 8.4, to see what backups are being listed in iTunes.
 
 Now keep in mind that I am using iTunes 11 for Windows on a Windows 7 
 PC but I will appreciate replies from Mac users, as well as PC users 
 running the latest version of iTunes.
 
 I noticed that for both my 5 S and my 6 Plus, there is only one backup 
 listed in the table of backups while there are multiple backup entries 
 for my iPhone 4, 4 S, and even my old 3GS.  The multiple entries for 
 these older devices are delineated by their dates.  I have not 
 attached these older devices to my PC in over two years.
 
 The only explanation I can come up with, on my own that is, is that 
 only the
 5 S and the 6 Plus are using encrypted backups.  Can that be the 
 reason for each device's singular backup entry?  I expected to see 
 multiple backup entries, delineated by date, for both my 5 S and 6 Plus but 
 there are none.
 There is only one entry for each device.
 
 So, I would ask you to let me know what you have listed in your iTunes 
 backup table for your series 5 or series 6 device.  To see your list 
 of backups,do the following:
 
 1.
 Open iTunes on your computer.
 
 2.
 From the Edit menu, select Preferences.
 
 3.
 Select the Device Tab.  Here you will see a list of device backups.
 
 Thank you in advance for any feedback on this.
 
 Mark
 
 
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RE: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

2015-07-20 Thread Alan Lemly
Mark,

Point taken. I guess my counterpoint is that I only expect to ever own one
iPhone that is in use at any point in time so any of those backups I made
for the older device will be unnecessary once it's replaced and I've backed
up the new device. Therefore, I don't have to worry with backups of my older
devices which will get overwritten I assume when my new device of the same
name gets backed up. Less stuff for me to keep up with and at my age, that's
a real bonus.

If I change my mind and rename my device, I'll post back with my backup
results.

Alan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

Hello Alan,

Thank  you so much for this information; the website is great.

Based on your reply, I would wager that you have not given your device a new
name other than that which was set by default.

I make a practice of renaming each of my iOS devices immediately upon
purchase.  If one does not do this, then, in theory, all of the devices
would have the same name.  This could be an advantage or a disadvantage,
depending upon one's needs.

My point is that, assuming that you have not renamed your latest device, if
you are encrypting your backups, only one file is being updated/created.
The remaining backups would be from your non-encrypted backup sessions.  

If you have not done so, rename your latest device to something like Alan's
iPhone 6 or something that is easily distinguishable from your other
devices.  Then make an encrypted backup once or twice and see how many
entries are created and let us know.

Thanks again for your help on this.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

Mark,

I'm running iTunes for Windows 11.4.0.18 and often make an encrypted backup
of my iPhone 6 running iOS 8.3 as I also did with my previous iPhone 5. I
had 8 backup files listed in the Devices dialog under Edit, Preferences all
of which begin with Alan's iPhone. Some of  the backups listed also included
the date next to Alan's iPhone but about half of them only said Alan's
iPhone. If I lingered over the specific backup, ZoomText would announce the
date it was made even though no date text was included in the list.

I then researched where iTunes places encrypted backup files on the computer
and found it is in a folder which includes the name MobileSync\Backup. The
actual subfolder name is much longer and depends on the version of Windows
you're running as to its location. Here's a link to the Apple Support
article in case you're interested:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215

This folder had a series of 8 subfolders under it which I assume correspond
to the 8 backups I previously mentioned. The files under these subfolders
included a string of alphanumeric characters in their names but had no file
extensions. I'm telling you this in case you want to poke around with
Windows Explorer.

Good luck and I hope this helps.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

Hello Everyone,

Today, in preparation for installing a copy of iOS 9 on one of my iPhones, I
decided, after backing up both my 5 S and 6 Plus, both running iOS 8.4, to
see what backups are being listed in iTunes.  

Now keep in mind that I am using iTunes 11 for Windows on a Windows 7 PC but
I will appreciate replies from Mac users, as well as PC users running the
latest version of iTunes.

I noticed that for both my 5 S and my 6 Plus, there is only one backup
listed in the table of backups while there are multiple backup entries for
my iPhone 4, 4 S, and even my old 3GS.  The multiple entries for these older
devices are delineated by their dates.  I have not attached these older
devices to my PC in over two years.  

The only explanation I can come up with, on my own that is, is that only the
5 S and the 6 Plus are using encrypted backups.  Can that be the reason for
each device's singular backup entry?  I expected to see multiple backup
entries, delineated by date, for both my 5 S and 6 Plus but there are none.
There is only one entry for each device.

So, I would ask you to let me know what you have listed in your iTunes
backup table for your series 5 or series 6 device.  To see your list of
backups,do the following:  

1.
Open iTunes on your computer.

2.
From the Edit menu, select Preferences.

3.
Select the Device Tab.  Here you will see a list of device backups.

Thank you in advance for any feedback on this.

Mark


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A Very Specific Question About iPhone Backup Files

2015-07-19 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

Today, in preparation for installing a copy of iOS 9 on one of my iPhones, I
decided, after backing up both my 5 S and 6 Plus, both running iOS 8.4, to
see what backups are being listed in iTunes.  

Now keep in mind that I am using iTunes 11 for Windows on a Windows 7 PC but
I will appreciate replies from Mac users, as well as PC users running the
latest version of iTunes.

I noticed that for both my 5 S and my 6 Plus, there is only one backup
listed in the table of backups while there are multiple backup entries for
my iPhone 4, 4 S, and even my old 3GS.  The multiple entries for these older
devices are delineated by their dates.  I have not attached these older
devices to my PC in over two years.  

The only explanation I can come up with, on my own that is, is that only the
5 S and the 6 Plus are using encrypted backups.  Can that be the reason for
each device's singular backup entry?  I expected to see multiple backup
entries, delineated by date, for both my 5 S and 6 Plus but there are none.
There is only one entry for each device.

So, I would ask you to let me know what you have listed in your iTunes
backup table for your series 5 or series 6 device.  To see your list of
backups,do the following:  

1.
Open iTunes on your computer.

2.
From the Edit menu, select Preferences.

3.
Select the Device Tab.  Here you will see a list of device backups.

Thank you in advance for any feedback on this.

Mark


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