Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
I never touched the tilt guidance, it's always been on. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Ron <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > Make sure your tilt guidance is turned on. > > Ron & Danvers > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:20 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader > > Hi when I first got the program, I was able to get the vibration, but for > some reason now I don't seem to get it anymore, and I have tried but if you > times to scan a document sometimes it reads OK and of the times and didn't do > as good I don't know is there any stand I could get maybe that might help a > bit > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 31, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Simon, >> >> If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you >> information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how >> skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many >> degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am >> running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with >> that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. >> There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your >> phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this >> by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up >> your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to >> vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try >> to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM >> To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org >> Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com>; viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader >> >> After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new >> owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not >> been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader >> that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and >> whether your centred correctly >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more
RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
Jewel, Even if the page is on the right side, you will get that message if the phone is too high. Ron & Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 9:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader The software will compensate for a certain amount of skew, but if it totally didn't matter how crooked you hold it compared to the text they probably wouldn't have included the announcement. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jewel Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 11:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Simon! If voice over says "no text visible", it is dollars to doughnuts that simply turning the page over will solve that. As for the advice about turning the page so many degrees clockwise or anti, I ignore that because, from what I can make out, the camera will compensate for that on its own. Jewel -- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:41 PM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Hi Simon, If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com>; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and whether your centred correctly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners
RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
Hi Simon, Make sure your tilt guidance is turned on. Ron & Danvers -Original Message- From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Hi when I first got the program, I was able to get the vibration, but for some reason now I don't seem to get it anymore, and I have tried but if you times to scan a document sometimes it reads OK and of the times and didn't do as good I don't know is there any stand I could get maybe that might help a bit Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 31, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you > information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how > skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many > degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am > running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with > that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. > There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your > phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this > by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up > your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to > vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try > to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM > To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org > Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com>; viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader > > After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new > owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not > been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader > that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and > whether your centred correctly > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegro
RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
Hi, Usually the software will compensate for about 10ยบ either side but, more than that, you lose quality. Ron & Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jewel Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Simon! If voice over says "no text visible", it is dollars to doughnuts that simply turning the page over will solve that. As for the advice about turning the page so many degrees clockwise or anti, I ignore that because, from what I can make out, the camera will compensate for that on its own. Jewel -- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:41 PM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Hi Simon, If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com>; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and whether your centred correctly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this gro
RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
As Richard said, there are several stands, but I would try and learn also to use it free-hand since you may be in situations where it is handy to use KNFB Reader and you may not have access to a stand. As with everything it is a matter of practicing and getting a "feel" for how high you have to hold the phone etc. For a regular page you don't have to go higher than a foot (approx.. as high as a 8.5x11 sheet is long). It also may help if you could practice a bit with a sighted person so they can correct you until you have more experience. The feedback the app provides is great, but it is not as good as what a sighted person can give you. I always start out by putting my phone on ttop of what I want to scan so that the camera is approx. in the middle of the page. Of course this means on a regular page the phone has to be in the bottom left quarter oof the page since thee phone's camera is at the top right of the phone if you face the touch screen (it is just around the back of the phone from where the power button is and a bit higher towards the top of the phone). If you are scanning a single page it may help you a bit if you lightly fold the page in half both ways, where the folds meet is exactly the middle of the page, line up the top right corner of your phone at that spot and then try to lift it straight away from the page. Regards, Sieghard Original Message- From: 'simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader So far with or without putting my arms on the table I have a hard time keeping the phone straight and up to the right level. -Original Message- From: Jewel Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Simon! If voice over says "no text visible", it is dollars to doughnuts that simply turning the page over will solve that. As for the advice about turning the page so many degrees clockwise or anti, I ignore that because, from what I can make out, the camera will compensate for that on its own. Jewel -- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:41 PM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Hi Simon, If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com>; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and whether your centred correctly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list
RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
The software will compensate for a certain amount of skew, but if it totally didn't matter how crooked you hold it compared to the text they probably wouldn't have included the announcement. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jewel Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 11:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Simon! If voice over says "no text visible", it is dollars to doughnuts that simply turning the page over will solve that. As for the advice about turning the page so many degrees clockwise or anti, I ignore that because, from what I can make out, the camera will compensate for that on its own. Jewel -- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:41 PM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Hi Simon, If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com>; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and whether your centred correctly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog
Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
here is a link to my web site describing and providing links to several scanning stands. Fopydo is my favorite: http://www.turner42.x10host.com/ScanningStands.html (Sent from my iPhone 5S) On Jul 31, 2016, at 12:20 AM, 'Simon w' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi when I first got the program, I was able to get the vibration, but for some reason now I don't seem to get it anymore, and I have tried but if you times to scan a document sometimes it reads OK and of the times and didn't do as good I don't know is there any stand I could get maybe that might help a bit Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Simon, If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org<mailto:reader-us...@nfbnet.org> Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com<mailto:ci...@googlegroups.com>>; viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and whether your centred correctly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquin
Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
So far with or without putting my arms on the table I have a hard time keeping the phone straight and up to the right level. -Original Message- From: Jewel Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Simon! If voice over says "no text visible", it is dollars to doughnuts that simply turning the page over will solve that. As for the advice about turning the page so many degrees clockwise or anti, I ignore that because, from what I can make out, the camera will compensate for that on its own. Jewel -- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:41 PM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Hi Simon, If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com>; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and whether your centred correctly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubsc
Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
Hi when I first got the program, I was able to get the vibration, but for some reason now I don't seem to get it anymore, and I have tried but if you times to scan a document sometimes it reads OK and of the times and didn't do as good I don't know is there any stand I could get maybe that might help a bit Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 31, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you > information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how > skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many > degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am > running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with > that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. > There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your > phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this > by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up > your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to > vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try > to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM > To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org > Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com>; viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader > > After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new > owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not > been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader > that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and > whether your centred correctly > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
Simon! If voice over says "no text visible", it is dollars to doughnuts that simply turning the page over will solve that. As for the advice about turning the page so many degrees clockwise or anti, I ignore that because, from what I can make out, the camera will compensate for that on its own. Jewel -- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:41 PM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader Hi Simon, If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com>; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and whether your centred correctly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: A new person that got the KNFBf reader
Hi Simon, If you double tap on the field of view report button it will tell you information about how many edges of the page KNFB Reader can see and how skewed your phone is compared to the text. This will be provided in how many degrees off you are either clockwise or counterclockwise. Sorry, but I am running the Ios 10 Public beta and KNFB Reader currently doesn't work with that so I can't give you examples as to what specific wording is used. There is also an option to turn on tilt guidance and if you have it on your phone will vibrate if you are not holding it flat. You can try/practice this by putting the phone on a level table. It should not vibrate. Now pick up your phone and try to keep it level/flat. If as you lift it up it starts to vibrate you know that you are not holding it flat any more. You can then try to compensate and see if you can hold it so it stops vibrating. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:10 PM To: reader-us...@nfbnet.org Cc: CISG <ci...@googlegroups.com>; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A new person that got the KNFBf reader After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and whether your centred correctly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A new person that got the KNFBf reader
After struggling with trying to make sure I had enough credit I am a new owner of the FB reader! I am manage to Scana bit of text on paper have not been able to align myself very well isn't there an option on the l reader that will tell you That the app, has detected text you've gotten and whether your centred correctly -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
