Re: Automatic OTA Upgrade!
Wow! 60 or 70 Apps? Here's me with 6 and a half pages of apps. Might I ask what apps you find useful incase I've missed a few? Feel free to be honest about how many you actually use and how many are there for old time sake. grin I've heard of people having 20 or more pages of apps. --- Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2013! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: RE: Automatic OTA Upgrade! Hi Christopher, Exactly, this was exactly the same for iOS 5 and iOS 6. It just so happened somebody brought this to everybody's attention and it was put in a negative light and now a few people are having a hissy fit about it. I totally agree that there are a few bugs in iOS 7 just as there were some in iOS 6 and iOS 5 and iOS 4 and so on. As I pointed out in my other message, traffic on this list has been so overwhelming with so much repetition and so much chewing the same few problems over and over that some people are left with the perception that iOS 7 is this horrible upgrade which takes accessibility back 5 steps and which makes older devices grind to a halt. In reality iOS 7 is an awesome update, looking back it will most likely be viewed as very well done and all in all sighted and blind people alike will like it a lot. Some people seem to think that half their apps won't run on it because there hasn't been a specific update that says iOS 7 fixes but of course the fact is that among my 60 or 70 apps all but 3 or 4 worked even with the Beta version. Of the few which didn't work (Groundwire SIP client and Talking Goggles specifically) updates which fixed the problems were out even before the public release. Tap Tap See which is an important app for many worked but had some issues with the Flash and the Repeat button not working and it's been fixed by now, bearly a week later. Mary is worried about the Seeing Eye app, but I have not seen a single message that it was not working in iOS 7. Anyhow, I don't want to repeat myself, but I just can't stress enough that iOS 7 is a good update which is working well at this point and I wouldn't go back to iOS 6 even if I could and somebody offered me $50 to do so. I think the reason why Apple is pushing the update to download and then notify people is because there are a lot of people who can't care less about following the latest news about iOS and that way Apple makes sure they do realize there is an update and when people see that an update is available and there is just a button that says Install they will do it. I wonder how Mary and others who are so angry at Apple right now would feel if they bought the latest and greatest Galaxy S4 now and a year from now some absolutely awesome Android update came out which would improve accessibility by miles and they couldn't upgrade because their 1 year old device is not compatible. I read that I think it is 0.5% of Android devices out there are running the latest version of Android. Most devices that are a year or 2 old never have a hope to get an update. On the other hand well over 50% of all allegeable iOS devices which can run iOS 7 already have upgraded. Sure, iPhone 3GS and iPad 1 users as well as pre Fifth Gen iPod Touch users can't upgrade, but I think by now this is a fairly small number and it will be smaller still in 6 months as many who have a 3GS will upgrade to at least a 4S or 5C and then use iOS 7. I wouldn't be surprised if 80%+ will be running iOS 7 in 6 months. I also hope that the wining about not being able to downgrade or about the injustice of having this upgrade downloaded to one's device stops because it really is not very constructive and it's not like it will change anything. I wonder how many people are still running iOS 5, I bet it's very few and we all know that we can count on Apple to fix some bugs in 6 or so weeks and it would be much more helpful if people would send good feedback to Apple Accessibility rather than vent their anger which in many cases is based on some perceived problem they heard about but haven't even experienced. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe
Automatic OTA Upgrade!
Has any one experienced automatic OTA download of the IOS7 after you have connected to wifi and started charging your iphone with an older version operating system? Please beware as your phone will do an automatic upgrade whether you want it or not! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Automatic OTA Upgrade!
My understanding is that the install will happen but it will not upgrade without your permission. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Avnish Chopra Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:54 AM To: ViPhone Subject: Automatic OTA Upgrade! Has any one experienced automatic OTA download of the IOS7 after you have connected to wifi and started charging your iphone with an older version operating system? Please beware as your phone will do an automatic upgrade whether you want it or not! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Automatic OTA Upgrade!
It'll be automatically downloaded but not installed, which I'm pretty sure is not a new behavior. On 09/27/2013 09:41 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote: My understanding is that the install will happen but it will not upgrade without your permission. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Avnish Chopra Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:54 AM To: ViPhone Subject: Automatic OTA Upgrade! Has any one experienced automatic OTA download of the IOS7 after you have connected to wifi and started charging your iphone with an older version operating system? Please beware as your phone will do an automatic upgrade whether you want it or not! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Automatic OTA Upgrade!
Hi Christopher, Exactly, this was exactly the same for iOS 5 and iOS 6. It just so happened somebody brought this to everybody's attention and it was put in a negative light and now a few people are having a hissy fit about it. I totally agree that there are a few bugs in iOS 7 just as there were some in iOS 6 and iOS 5 and iOS 4 and so on. As I pointed out in my other message, traffic on this list has been so overwhelming with so much repetition and so much chewing the same few problems over and over that some people are left with the perception that iOS 7 is this horrible upgrade which takes accessibility back 5 steps and which makes older devices grind to a halt. In reality iOS 7 is an awesome update, looking back it will most likely be viewed as very well done and all in all sighted and blind people alike will like it a lot. Some people seem to think that half their apps won't run on it because there hasn't been a specific update that says iOS 7 fixes but of course the fact is that among my 60 or 70 apps all but 3 or 4 worked even with the Beta version. Of the few which didn't work (Groundwire SIP client and Talking Goggles specifically) updates which fixed the problems were out even before the public release. Tap Tap See which is an important app for many worked but had some issues with the Flash and the Repeat button not working and it's been fixed by now, bearly a week later. Mary is worried about the Seeing Eye app, but I have not seen a single message that it was not working in iOS 7. Anyhow, I don't want to repeat myself, but I just can't stress enough that iOS 7 is a good update which is working well at this point and I wouldn't go back to iOS 6 even if I could and somebody offered me $50 to do so. I think the reason why Apple is pushing the update to download and then notify people is because there are a lot of people who can't care less about following the latest news about iOS and that way Apple makes sure they do realize there is an update and when people see that an update is available and there is just a button that says Install they will do it. I wonder how Mary and others who are so angry at Apple right now would feel if they bought the latest and greatest Galaxy S4 now and a year from now some absolutely awesome Android update came out which would improve accessibility by miles and they couldn't upgrade because their 1 year old device is not compatible. I read that I think it is 0.5% of Android devices out there are running the latest version of Android. Most devices that are a year or 2 old never have a hope to get an update. On the other hand well over 50% of all allegeable iOS devices which can run iOS 7 already have upgraded. Sure, iPhone 3GS and iPad 1 users as well as pre Fifth Gen iPod Touch users can't upgrade, but I think by now this is a fairly small number and it will be smaller still in 6 months as many who have a 3GS will upgrade to at least a 4S or 5C and then use iOS 7. I wouldn't be surprised if 80%+ will be running iOS 7 in 6 months. I also hope that the wining about not being able to downgrade or about the injustice of having this upgrade downloaded to one's device stops because it really is not very constructive and it's not like it will change anything. I wonder how many people are still running iOS 5, I bet it's very few and we all know that we can count on Apple to fix some bugs in 6 or so weeks and it would be much more helpful if people would send good feedback to Apple Accessibility rather than vent their anger which in many cases is based on some perceived problem they heard about but haven't even experienced. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Automatic OTA Upgrade!
Hi Sieghard, If someone offered me $50.00 to downgrade to IOS6 I would do it and take it. Then I would upgrade right back to IOS7! Lol! I couldn't resist that one! DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Automatic OTA Upgrade! Hi Christopher, Exactly, this was exactly the same for iOS 5 and iOS 6. It just so happened somebody brought this to everybody's attention and it was put in a negative light and now a few people are having a hissy fit about it. I totally agree that there are a few bugs in iOS 7 just as there were some in iOS 6 and iOS 5 and iOS 4 and so on. As I pointed out in my other message, traffic on this list has been so overwhelming with so much repetition and so much chewing the same few problems over and over that some people are left with the perception that iOS 7 is this horrible upgrade which takes accessibility back 5 steps and which makes older devices grind to a halt. In reality iOS 7 is an awesome update, looking back it will most likely be viewed as very well done and all in all sighted and blind people alike will like it a lot. Some people seem to think that half their apps won't run on it because there hasn't been a specific update that says iOS 7 fixes but of course the fact is that among my 60 or 70 apps all but 3 or 4 worked even with the Beta version. Of the few which didn't work (Groundwire SIP client and Talking Goggles specifically) updates which fixed the problems were out even before the public release. Tap Tap See which is an important app for many worked but had some issues with the Flash and the Repeat button not working and it's been fixed by now, bearly a week later. Mary is worried about the Seeing Eye app, but I have not seen a single message that it was not working in iOS 7. Anyhow, I don't want to repeat myself, but I just can't stress enough that iOS 7 is a good update which is working well at this point and I wouldn't go back to iOS 6 even if I could and somebody offered me $50 to do so. I think the reason why Apple is pushing the update to download and then notify people is because there are a lot of people who can't care less about following the latest news about iOS and that way Apple makes sure they do realize there is an update and when people see that an update is available and there is just a button that says Install they will do it. I wonder how Mary and others who are so angry at Apple right now would feel if they bought the latest and greatest Galaxy S4 now and a year from now some absolutely awesome Android update came out which would improve accessibility by miles and they couldn't upgrade because their 1 year old device is not compatible. I read that I think it is 0.5% of Android devices out there are running the latest version of Android. Most devices that are a year or 2 old never have a hope to get an update. On the other hand well over 50% of all allegeable iOS devices which can run iOS 7 already have upgraded. Sure, iPhone 3GS and iPad 1 users as well as pre Fifth Gen iPod Touch users can't upgrade, but I think by now this is a fairly small number and it will be smaller still in 6 months as many who have a 3GS will upgrade to at least a 4S or 5C and then use iOS 7. I wouldn't be surprised if 80%+ will be running iOS 7 in 6 months. I also hope that the wining about not being able to downgrade or about the injustice of having this upgrade downloaded to one's device stops because it really is not very constructive and it's not like it will change anything. I wonder how many people are still running iOS 5, I bet it's very few and we all know that we can count on Apple to fix some bugs in 6 or so weeks and it would be much more helpful if people would send good feedback to Apple Accessibility rather than vent their anger which in many cases is based on some perceived problem they heard about but haven't even experienced. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone
