RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
That message was from Alan. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 2:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, Are the people still alive after eating your cooking. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers have an old gas stove with 4 burners and a gas oven. I'm a self taught cook. I'm careful but I get the job done. I also cook outside on our 5 burner gas grill. I set the burners on the grill to as low as I can make it. Yes, it may take me a little longer however, I've never had any complaints yet about my cooking. Alan Sent from my iPad Air On Jun 12, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net<mailto:br...@hostany.net>> wrote: What about the ovens? Even if we can put braille on the most used controls, do they always start out on 350 degrees, or might we accidentally broil the cookies if a high temperature was the last thing used by someone else? I'm glad that the stove at my apartment is all analog because I can always set the marked dial where I want it to be, but those are likely a dying breed. I wonder also if the stove tops with the old style not flat burners are getting hard to find as well? - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:40 PM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might just do fine. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for th
RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
Hey Sieghard, Are the people still alive after eating your cooking. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers have an old gas stove with 4 burners and a gas oven. I'm a self taught cook. I'm careful but I get the job done. I also cook outside on our 5 burner gas grill. I set the burners on the grill to as low as I can make it. Yes, it may take me a little longer however, I've never had any complaints yet about my cooking. Alan Sent from my iPad Air On Jun 12, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote: What about the ovens? Even if we can put braille on the most used controls, do they always start out on 350 degrees, or might we accidentally broil the cookies if a high temperature was the last thing used by someone else? I'm glad that the stove at my apartment is all analog because I can always set the marked dial where I want it to be, but those are likely a dying breed. I wonder also if the stove tops with the old style not flat burners are getting hard to find as well? - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:40 PM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might just do fine. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this mo
RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
My lg always starts out at 350 no matter what is was previously used at. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers What about the ovens? Even if we can put braille on the most used controls, do they always start out on 350 degrees, or might we accidentally broil the cookies if a high temperature was the last thing used by someone else? I'm glad that the stove at my apartment is all analog because I can always set the marked dial where I want it to be, but those are likely a dying breed. I wonder also if the stove tops with the old style not flat burners are getting hard to find as well? - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:40 PM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might just do fine. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing. I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display and another store,
RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
Hi hav an lg stove, but that only has nfc and I have not been able to get it to work yet. I’ll have to see if I can upgrade the board to wifi. I also use an anova culinary sou-vide cooker and that app works great too. I have not checked out washers and dryers yet, but will need to do so soon. As ours is showing its time is coming close. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing. I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen or 15) and then start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get to the setting you want. Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or is accessible in other ways? I know you would have to have bought something in the last several months since models usually change each year so if there was an accessible model 3 or 4 years ago chances are that model doesn’t exist any more. At least they should make these things talk which probably wouldn’t be very difficult given today’s technology. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more opti
Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
Absolutely, and certainly OT as you say. I'll shut up now. :)RobH. - Original Message - From: "Patti Johnson" <pattigj1...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Uhm. What I think he is referring to is something some cats do, that is not very nice, which is why I just have girls because they don't tend to do this thing which I am referring to, and that is, marking. Am I right, Rob, and I know this is Wy off topic!! On 6/13/16, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a cat and don't know what you're talking about. Why are we just going > to know what body rott is supposed to mean if 1. The majority of us probably > don't have a car to begin with and 2. Wont' necessarily equate this > ambiguous term for rust on a car when we're talking about appliances? And > yes, we own a car and arent' familiar with this term. > How about plain simple English without the vernacular that may require an > urban dictionary. > > -Original Message- > From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Well:- > > Bosch would be manufacturer of choice to replace ailing appliances. Someone > commented about the balance between price and quality. > > Body rot is rust, ask any car owner. > > Bet another cat owner would see the connection. > - Original Message - > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:52 PM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > > Hi Rob, > > Sorry to get back with this, but I have no idea what you are saying: > > Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both > need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these > chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with > British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. > > What this thing about an "errant cat" and "body rot"? Is this british umour > I don't understand? > What is Bosch targeted for? > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message- > From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both > need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these > chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with > British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. > > Bosch appliances seem to be high profile, so those are current target. > We don't get brands from continental US. > > BobH. > - Original Message - > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:40 AM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > > Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still > work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very > simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well > as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and > even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) > our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung > and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company > that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years > of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says > comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like > Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end > german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same > quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would > want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to > pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or > upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying > something that is half the price might just do fine. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Pinky > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Botva
Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
I rather liked the way Bob expressed himself and I think we all use some sort of vanacular. Vive la difference! Sandy (Whose BotVac app is playing up a little, sniff) sent from the dark side of the moon > On 13 Jun 2016, at 18:00, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have a cat and don't know what you're talking about. Why are we just going > to know what body rott is supposed to mean if 1. The majority of us probably > don't have a car to begin with and 2. Wont' necessarily equate this ambiguous > term for rust on a car when we're talking about appliances? And yes, we own a > car and arent' familiar with this term. > How about plain simple English without the vernacular that may require an > urban dictionary. > > -Original Message- > From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Well:- > > Bosch would be manufacturer of choice to replace ailing appliances. Someone > commented about the balance between price and quality. > > Body rot is rust, ask any car owner. > > Bet another cat owner would see the connection. > - Original Message - > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:52 PM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > > Hi Rob, > > Sorry to get back with this, but I have no idea what you are saying: > > Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both > need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these > chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with > British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. > > What this thing about an "errant cat" and "body rot"? Is this british umour I > don't understand? > What is Bosch targeted for? > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both > need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these > chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with > British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. > > Bosch appliances seem to be high profile, so those are current target. > We don't get brands from continental US. > > BobH. > - Original Message - > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:40 AM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > > Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still > work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very > simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well > as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and > even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our > washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung > and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that > officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years > of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says > comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like > Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end > german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same > quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would > want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to > pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or > upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying > something that is half the price might just do fine. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Pinky > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Hey Sieghard, > You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. > Ed > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday,
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Uhm. What I think he is referring to is something some cats do, that is not very nice, which is why I just have girls because they don't tend to do this thing which I am referring to, and that is, marking. Am I right, Rob, and I know this is Wy off topic!! On 6/13/16, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a cat and don't know what you're talking about. Why are we just going > to know what body rott is supposed to mean if 1. The majority of us probably > don't have a car to begin with and 2. Wont' necessarily equate this > ambiguous term for rust on a car when we're talking about appliances? And > yes, we own a car and arent' familiar with this term. > How about plain simple English without the vernacular that may require an > urban dictionary. > > -Original Message- > From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:54 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Well:- > > Bosch would be manufacturer of choice to replace ailing appliances. Someone > commented about the balance between price and quality. > > Body rot is rust, ask any car owner. > > Bet another cat owner would see the connection. > - Original Message - > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:52 PM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > > Hi Rob, > > Sorry to get back with this, but I have no idea what you are saying: > > Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both > need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these > chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with > British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. > > What this thing about an "errant cat" and "body rot"? Is this british umour > I don't understand? > What is Bosch targeted for? > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both > need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these > chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with > British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. > > Bosch appliances seem to be high profile, so those are current target. > We don't get brands from continental US. > > BobH. > - Original Message - > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:40 AM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > > Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still > work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very > simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well > as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and > even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) > our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung > and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company > that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years > of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says > comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like > Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end > german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same > quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would > want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to > pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or > upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying > something that is half the price might just do fine. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Pinky > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Hey Sieghard, > You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. > Ed > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2
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I have a cat and don't know what you're talking about. Why are we just going to know what body rott is supposed to mean if 1. The majority of us probably don't have a car to begin with and 2. Wont' necessarily equate this ambiguous term for rust on a car when we're talking about appliances? And yes, we own a car and arent' familiar with this term. How about plain simple English without the vernacular that may require an urban dictionary. -Original Message- From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well:- Bosch would be manufacturer of choice to replace ailing appliances. Someone commented about the balance between price and quality. Body rot is rust, ask any car owner. Bet another cat owner would see the connection. - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:52 PM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi Rob, Sorry to get back with this, but I have no idea what you are saying: Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. What this thing about an "errant cat" and "body rot"? Is this british umour I don't understand? What is Bosch targeted for? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. Bosch appliances seem to be high profile, so those are current target. We don't get brands from continental US. BobH. - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:40 AM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might just do fine. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the mar
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I get it, that naughty thing; Bob. Patti On 6/13/16, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Well:- > > Bosch would be manufacturer of choice to replace ailing appliances. Someone > commented about the balance between price and quality. > > Body rot is rust, ask any car owner. > > Bet another cat owner would see the connection. > - Original Message - > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:52 PM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > > Hi Rob, > > Sorry to get back with this, but I have no idea what you are saying: > > Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both > need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these > chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with > British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. > > What this thing about an "errant cat" and "body rot"? Is this british umour > I don't understand? > What is Bosch targeted for? > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message----- > From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both > need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these > chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with > British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. > > Bosch appliances seem to be high profile, so those are current target. > We don't get brands from continental US. > > BobH. > - Original Message ----- > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:40 AM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > > Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still > work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very > simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well > as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and > even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) > our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung > and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company > that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years > of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says > comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like > Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end > german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same > quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would > want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to > pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or > upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying > something that is half the price might just do fine. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Pinky > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Hey Sieghard, > You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. > Ed > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like > washers and dryers > > Hi List, > > The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an > apparently quite accessible app made me think again about > other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 > years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing > off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have > made it to market. Yes, there are things like the > Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are > now several other devices like connected thermostats and > other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what > about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am > totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and > I am prepared to pay more
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Well:- Bosch would be manufacturer of choice to replace ailing appliances. Someone commented about the balance between price and quality. Body rot is rust, ask any car owner. Bet another cat owner would see the connection. - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:52 PM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi Rob, Sorry to get back with this, but I have no idea what you are saying: Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. What this thing about an "errant cat" and "body rot"? Is this british umour I don't understand? What is Bosch targeted for? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. Bosch appliances seem to be high profile, so those are current target. We don't get brands from continental US. BobH. - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:40 AM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might just do fine. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here
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I know they don't even make the kind of gas stove I have. The stove was here as a part of the house in 1986. I love cooking on it and as far as I'm concerned, the microwave is good for reheating and any more not even that sense we got a counter top cook oven. It's great for reheating pizza, already cooked left over hamburgers etc. Alan Sent from my iPad Air > On Jun 12, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote: > > What about the ovens? Even if we can put braille on the most used controls, > do they always start out on 350 degrees, or might we accidentally broil the > cookies if a high temperature was the last thing used by someone else? I'm > glad that the stove at my apartment is all analog because I can always set > the marked dial where I want it to be, but those are likely a dying breed. I > wonder also if the stove tops with the old style not flat burners are getting > hard to find as well? > > - Original Message - > From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:40 PM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still > work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and > they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. > I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 > years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. > Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the > only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of > use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says > comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, > Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an > economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course > there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer > for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally > want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something > that is half the price might just do fine. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Pinky > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Hey Sieghard, > You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. > Ed > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like > washers and dryers > > Hi List, > > The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an > apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected > appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, > LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las > Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things > like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and > there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home > automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, > dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace > my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less > top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG > model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer > with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the > reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t > work”. > > I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I > just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that > the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below > the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push > buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The > sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had > it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly > my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it wo
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have an old gas stove with 4 burners and a gas oven. I'm a self taught cook. I'm careful but I get the job done. I also cook outside on our 5 burner gas grill. I set the burners on the grill to as low as I can make it. Yes, it may take me a little longer however, I've never had any complaints yet about my cooking. Alan Sent from my iPad Air > On Jun 12, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote: > > What about the ovens? Even if we can put braille on the most used controls, > do they always start out on 350 degrees, or might we accidentally broil the > cookies if a high temperature was the last thing used by someone else? I'm > glad that the stove at my apartment is all analog because I can always set > the marked dial where I want it to be, but those are likely a dying breed. I > wonder also if the stove tops with the old style not flat burners are getting > hard to find as well? > > - Original Message - > From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:40 PM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still > work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and > they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. > I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 > years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. > Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the > only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of > use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says > comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, > Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an > economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course > there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer > for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally > want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something > that is half the price might just do fine. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Pinky > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Hey Sieghard, > You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. > Ed > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like > washers and dryers > > Hi List, > > The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an > apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected > appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, > LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las > Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things > like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and > there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home > automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, > dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace > my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less > top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG > model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer > with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the > reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t > work”. > > I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I > just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that > the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below > the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push > buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The > sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had > it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly > my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to
RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
Hi Rob, Sorry to get back with this, but I have no idea what you are saying: Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. What this thing about an "errant cat" and "body rot"? Is this british umour I don't understand? What is Bosch targeted for? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. Bosch appliances seem to be high profile, so those are current target. We don't get brands from continental US. BobH. - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:40 AM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might just do fine. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a f
Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
Price/quality is always a moot point, and do have to think about it as both need changing soonest. An errant cat has given these chronic body rot, rare for domestic appliances. They're about 14 with British-sounding names, but almost certainly aren't. Bosch appliances seem to be high profile, so those are current target. We don't get brands from continental US. BobH. - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 3:40 AM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might just do fine. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing. I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have selected.On the Bosch washing machi
Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
Well, I'd like a bike app to do more than count steps or whatever; I'd like it to offer scenario-related occupation; it has been done decades ago before such phones and bluetooth were ever invented. E.g: someone made a rowing machine hooked to a interactive video player which had a 3d representation of a river, and it would show on the screen at your feet, and you could row all around this virtual environment. There's more than enough plausible options of this nature we could use, if someone made it. Kapsys and Trekker both made a map exploration facility, so giving the static cyclist plenty to do exploring said map. Key in a post/zip code, and take it from there. BobH. - Original Message - From: "Cristóbal" <crismuno...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:56 PM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers I could write the same post, but with exersize equipment. I.E. Elliptical, rower, stationary bike, etc. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing. I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen or 15) and then start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get to the setting you want. Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or is accessible in other ways? I know you would have to have bought something in the last several months since models usually change each year so if there was an accessible model 3 or 4 years ago chances are that model doesn’t exist any more. At least they should make these things talk which probably wouldn’t be very difficult given today’s technology. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's
Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
Brent, I think you are right! As time goes on, I feel sure we will be encountering more and more devices with touch screens, so, accessibility via apps either using Bluetooth or Wifi will be essential to us. JMT, Sandy. sent from the dark side of the moon > On 13 Jun 2016, at 04:02, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote: > > What about the ovens? Even if we can put braille on the most used controls, > do they always start out on 350 degrees, or might we accidentally broil the > cookies if a high temperature was the last thing used by someone else? I'm > glad that the stove at my apartment is all analog because I can always set > the marked dial where I want it to be, but those are likely a dying breed. I > wonder also if the stove tops with the old style not flat burners are getting > hard to find as well? > > - Original Message - > From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:40 PM > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still > work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and > they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. > I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 > years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. > Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the > only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of > use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says > comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, > Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an > economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course > there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer > for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally > want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something > that is half the price might just do fine. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Pinky > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances > like washers and dryers > > Hey Sieghard, > You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. > Ed > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like > washers and dryers > > Hi List, > > The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an > apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected > appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, > LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las > Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things > like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and > there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home > automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, > dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace > my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less > top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG > model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer > with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the > reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t > work”. > > I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I > just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that > the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below > the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push > buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The > sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had > it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly > my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to > mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely >
Re: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
What about the ovens? Even if we can put braille on the most used controls, do they always start out on 350 degrees, or might we accidentally broil the cookies if a high temperature was the last thing used by someone else? I'm glad that the stove at my apartment is all analog because I can always set the marked dial where I want it to be, but those are likely a dying breed. I wonder also if the stove tops with the old style not flat burners are getting hard to find as well? - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:40 PM Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might just do fine. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing. I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible as it turns continuously
RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
Well, I did have my Maytec washer and dryer for 20 years now and they still work as far as it goes. However, the washer is a very simple top loader and they are just not as efficient and don’t clean as well as the front loaders. I should mention that I am 49 and even when I was a little kid of 6 or 8 years old (more than 40 years ago) our washers in Germany were front loaders. Anyhow, Samsung and LG give 10 years warranty on the motor I think, but the only company that officially rates their washers and dryers for 20 years of use is Miele. I also know from our local repair guy here that he says comparing Miele and to some extend Bosch with brands like Samsung, LG, Whirlpool etc. is to some extend like comparing a high-end german car with an economy Korean model, just not the same quality goes into them. Of course there is the issue of whether one would want to have their washer and dryer for 20 years and to pay a bit of a premium to get this. Maybe I would totally want to change or upgrade again in 10 or 12 years and then buying something that is half the price might just do fine. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 5:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing. I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen or 15) and then start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get to the setting you want. Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or is accessible in other ways? I know you would have to have bought something in the last several months since models usually change each year so if there was an accessible model 3 or 4
RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
Hey Sieghard, You better watch out for that German stuff. Hahahah Just kidding. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing. I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen or 15) and then start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get to the setting you want. Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or is accessible in other ways? I know you would have to have bought something in the last several months since models usually change each year so if there was an accessible model 3 or 4 years ago chances are that model doesn’t exist any more. At least they should make these things talk which probably wouldn’t be very difficult given today’s technology. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
RE: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
I could write the same post, but with exersize equipment. I.E. Elliptical, rower, stationary bike, etc. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 12:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I’be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically “It doesn’t work”. I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn’t realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it’s totally amazing. I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don’t stock the top of the line models and nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn’t even accessible as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen or 15) and then start at 12 o’clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get to the setting you want. Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or is accessible in other ways? I know you would have to have bought something in the last several months since models usually change each year so if there was an accessible model 3 or 4 years ago chances are that model doesn’t exist any more. At least they should make these things talk which probably wouldn’t be very difficult given today’s technology. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropria
Botvac discussion, how about other connected major appliances like washers and dryers
Hi List, The discussion about the Neato BotVac which can be controlled with an apparently quite accessible app made me think again about other connected appliances. I'be been hearing for at least the last 3 or 4 years how Samsung, LG and other manufacturers are showing off connected appliances at CES in Las Vegas, but very little seems to have made it to market. Yes, there are things like the Instant Pot and maybe other small appliances which have apps and there are now several other devices like connected thermostats and other home automation devices which can be controlled with apps, but what about washers, dryers, dishwashers and stoves/ovens. I am totally in the market to replace my 20-year old Maytech washer and dryer and I am prepared to pay more or less top dollars for a really good front load washer, but while I did see an LG model which connects to Wi-Fi and has an app, it seems controlling the washer with said app is limited and apparently relies on NFC to some degree so the reviews on the app store in Canada for the iOS app are basically "It doesn't work". I really wonder what is so difficult, the technology for this is out there. I just recently purchased a high-end Bosch dishwasher and didn't realize that the model I bought had touchscreen controls. I looked at a model just below the one I bought (the 800 series) at the Sears store here and it had push buttons and I decided to buy the 800 Plus model which was even quieter. The sales person told me it had the same controls and I never checked until I had it totally unpacked and half way connected. I decided to keep it since mostly my wife is starting it and in the case of this model it would be possible to mark the spots where I would have to touch with dots. One thing I definitely like is the fact that I actually have to put my ear within a foot or two of the dishwasher to even hear that it is running, it operates at 40 Db and it's totally amazing. I have been checking out appliances online since I live in a small town of 6,000 people and while there is a Sears here which has some stuff on display and another store, mostly they don't stock the top of the line models and nobody here sells the high-end german brands like Miele. One Miele model apparently is completely operated by a dial and push buttons, but most of the high-end Samsung and LG models have a dial which I think isn't even accessible as it turns continuously and there is no arrow on it one can feel or mark and as you turn it little lights light up showing you what cycle you have selected.On the Bosch washing machine the dial does have a tactile line and one could write down the list of cycles/programs (I think there are about a dozen or 15) and then start at 12 o'clock and turn the dial clockwise or counter clockwise and count the clicks. But all of the models I have seen so far have touch controls as well and it seems some you have to push multiple times to get to the setting you want. Has anybody found anything that does work with an app or anything that talks or is accessible in other ways? I know you would have to have bought something in the last several months since models usually change each year so if there was an accessible model 3 or 4 years ago chances are that model doesn't exist any more. At least they should make these things talk which probably wouldn't be very difficult given today's technology. Regards, Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
