Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
The new Orbit 40 that is coming out will have cursor
 buttons. The orbits are really good for note taking. Also the new Orbit 40 
will have on board translation.

Greg Wocher

> On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard, Simon, and Alia. 
> 
> She will be using it for note taking as well as lots of reading. 
> 
> So far we have looked at the Focus 40 5th gen as well as the mentioned 
> Q-Braille from Hims. 
> 
> Orbit reader sounds good, But from what I gather that display does not have 
> cursor buttons. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Sadam 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/1/2020 9:44 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.
>> I use the Orbit Reader 20.
>> A 40 cell version will be out within a couple of months.
>> Which display will be best for your client will depend a lot on what 
>> specific features they want/need.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, 
>> it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>> 
>> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
>> www.turner42.com 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:39 AM, Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sadam, i use VarioUltra Braille Display from Baum. It's good too use 
>>> with iPhone.
>>> 
>>> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>>> 
 ‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:35, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ 
  כתב/ה:‬
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with her 
 iPhone and iPad.
 
 What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?
 
 I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the 
 QBraille.
 
 Any insight welcome.
 Sincerely,
 Sadam
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RE: Braille displays and iOS?

[Richard Turner]

It is now being repaired by someone, but I had not heard they are producing 
them again.



Richard
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Subject: Re: Braille displays and iOS?

it is. maybe someone else will know by whom.

On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.

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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Devin Prater]

I use the Focus 14 Blue fifth generation. The scratchpad is okay, no word wrap 
which I find annoying, but I mainly use it with my iPhone anyway.

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> Even when it was, I don't think it made it to Australia which is where I'm 
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> people hold.
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> On 6/1/2020 10:13 PM, alia robinson wrote:
>> it is. maybe someone else will know by whom.
>> 
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.
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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Even when it was, I don't think it made it to Australia which is where 
I'm located.


I've certainly never come across it at the various trade shows that the 
sales people hold.



On 6/1/2020 10:13 PM, alia robinson wrote:

it is. maybe someone else will know by whom.

On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.


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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[alia robinson]

it is. maybe someone else will know by whom.

On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:44 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.

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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Hi, the Q Braille XL is grate, but the note taking ability is very limited. I 
think that Braille Sence Polaris from Hims is beter. 

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:58, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> 
> Hi Richard, Simon, and Alia. 
> 
> She will be using it for note taking as well as lots of reading. 
> 
> So far we have looked at the Focus 40 5th gen as well as the mentioned 
> Q-Braille from Hims. 
> 
> Orbit reader sounds good, But from what I gather that display does not have 
> cursor buttons. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Sadam 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/1/2020 9:44 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.
>> I use the Orbit Reader 20.
>> A 40 cell version will be out within a couple of months.
>> Which display will be best for your client will depend a lot on what 
>> specific features they want/need.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, 
>> it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>> 
>> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
>> www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:39 AM, Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sadam, i use VarioUltra Braille Display from Baum. It's good too use 
>>> with iPhone.
>>> 
>>> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>>> 
 ‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:35, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ כתב/ה:‬
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with her 
 iPhone and iPad.
 
 What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?
 
 I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the 
 QBraille.
 
 Any insight welcome.
 Sincerely,
 Sadam
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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi Richard, Simon, and Alia.

She will be using it for note taking as well as lots of reading.

So far we have looked at the Focus 40 5th gen as well as the mentioned 
Q-Braille from Hims.


Orbit reader sounds good, But from what I gather that display does not 
have cursor buttons.


Thanks,

Sadam


On 6/1/2020 9:44 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.
I use the Orbit Reader 20.
A 40 cell version will be out within a couple of months.
Which display will be best for your client will depend a lot on what 
specific features they want/need.



Richard

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happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."



Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:39 AM, Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון 
 wrote:



Hi Sadam, i use VarioUltra Braille Display from Baum. It's good too 
use with iPhone.


נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:35, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ 
כתב/ה:‬


Hi all,

I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use 
with her iPhone and iPad.


What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?

I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the 
QBraille.


Any insight welcome.
Sincerely,
Sadam
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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Richard Turner]

I do not believe the Vario Ultra is being produced any longer.
I use the Orbit Reader 20.
A 40 cell version will be out within a couple of months.
Which display will be best for your client will depend a lot on what specific 
features they want/need.


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:39 AM, Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון  
wrote:


Hi Sadam, i use VarioUltra Braille Display from Baum. It's good too use with 
iPhone.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:35, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ כתב/ה:‬

Hi all,

I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with her 
iPhone and iPad.

What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?

I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the QBraille.

Any insight welcome.
Sincerely,
Sadam
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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[alia robinson]

they’re about all the same as far as how they’re used. it depends on what else 
she wants to do with it.

On Jun 1, 2020, at 7:35 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:

Hi all,

I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with her 
iPhone and iPad.

What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?

I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the QBraille.

Any insight welcome.
Sincerely,
Sadam
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Re: Braille displays and iOS?

[Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Hi Sadam, i use VarioUltra Braille Display from Baum. It's good too use with 
iPhone.

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-1 ביוני 2020, בשעה 14:35, ‏‏Sadam Ahmed ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with her 
> iPhone and iPad.
> 
> What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?
> 
> I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the QBraille.
> 
> Any insight welcome.
> Sincerely,
> Sadam
> Sadam Ahmed
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Braille displays and iOS?

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all,

I am doing some research for a client on the best display to use with 
her iPhone and iPad.


What models of braille displays are people using with the iPhone?

I have heard good things about the new Focus 5th gen as well as the 
QBraille.


Any insight welcome.
Sincerely,
Sadam
Sadam Ahmed
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+61 435 892 944
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Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Anouk Radix]

I have the brailliant bi40 which is a braille display and braille keyboard that 
can be connected through usb or bluetooth.

Greetings, Anouk,
> On 6 Nov 2016, at 06:34, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Anouk,
> 
> I mean what type of Bluetooth you have.  Is it the Bluetooth keyboard?
> 
> I do not use any devices by Humanware.  I have a Braille Sense Mini U2 with 
> an iPhone 6S.  I do have a Bluetooth keyboard from Logistics for typing 
> rahter than the Perkins keyboard on the U2.
> 
> Todd
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anouk Radix
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 5:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and 
> ios/bluetooth?
> 
> Todd,
> I use the humanware brailliant bi40 with an iphone 6 and latest ios 10 
> version. I am not sure hwat you ean by what kind or type of bluetooth…. I use 
> the humanware braille protocol… Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 05:01, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Anouk,
>> 
>> What Braille display from HumanWare are you using?  What type or kind of 
>> bluetooth are you using?
>> 
>> I am a strong Braille user.  I have a HIMS Braille Sense U2 Mini with an 
>> iPhone 6s.  they work excellent.
>> 
>> I am sure Rich will tell you something.  Let him tell you about his devices.
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Anouk Radix
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my braille 
>> reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of the books that I 
>> have in there are epub or text so no problem to read those with a braille 
>> display. Only the one that I have now the humanware brailliant bi40 has a 
>> VERY unstable and slow bluetooth connection. I love it for its form factor 
>> its looks its sturdyness its braille cells and its performance through usb 
>> with windows and mac but its bluetooth performance simply really sucks its 
>> slow and VERY unstable often I am not capable to get the connection back 
>> either.
>> I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille displays/ios and 
>> bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new braille display next year 
>> and the bluetooth performance will be a major deciding factor.
>> Thanks,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> 
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RE: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Todd Patkus]

Anouk,

Refer this to my last rsponse to Scott Davert.

Todd

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anouk Radix
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

Hi Scott,
I tried hid also but that does not seem to work on the iphone (by that I mean i 
tried connecting the brailliant while its protocol was set to openbraille 
instead of humanware and the channel to bluetooth).
I dont think the refreshbraille is sold here in the Netherlands but the himms 
displays are being sold here nowedays. I did hear though that some himms 
displays have a bug where braille input/typing is  concerned?
Not that that would be a big issue for me but still… Greetings, Anouk,
> On 2 Nov 2016, at 13:50, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> Yes, I've also noticed that the Brailliant display line has had 
> various issues with Bluetooth connectivity over the past few years.
> The newer firmware seemed to be a bit better when using the HID mode, 
> but I haven't honestly used it enough to really say that it's better 
> over a longer period of time. I find the Resreshabraille and the HIMS 
> products seem to hold the connection better. The first and second 
> generation of the Refreshabraille don't seem to hold the connection 
> over a distance of 3 or 4 meters, but the newer generation, along with 
> the Braille Edge and Braille Sense tend to hold the connection pretty 
> stable for about 10 meters.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 11/2/16, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Todd,
>> I use the humanware brailliant bi40 with an iphone 6 and latest ios 
>> 10 version. I am not sure hwat you ean by what kind or type of 
>> bluetooth…. I use the humanware braille protocol… Greetings, Anouk,
>>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 05:01, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anouk,
>>> 
>>> What Braille display from HumanWare are you using?  What type or 
>>> kind of bluetooth are you using?
>>> 
>>> I am a strong Braille user.  I have a HIMS Braille Sense U2 Mini 
>>> with an iPhone 6s.  they work excellent.
>>> 
>>> I am sure Rich will tell you something.  Let him tell you about his 
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Anouk Radix
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: what are your experiences with braille displays and 
>>> ios/bluetooth?
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my 
>>> braille reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of 
>>> the books that I have in there are epub or text so no problem to 
>>> read those with a braille display. Only the one that I have now the 
>>> humanware brailliant bi40 has a VERY unstable and slow bluetooth 
>>> connection. I love it for its form factor its looks its sturdyness 
>>> its braille cells and its performance through usb with windows and 
>>> mac but its bluetooth performance simply really sucks its slow and 
>>> VERY unstable often I am not capable to get the connection back either.
>>> I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille 
>>> displays/ios and bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new 
>>> braille display next year and the bluetooth performance will be a major 
>>> deciding factor.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
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RE: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Todd Patkus]

Scott Davert,

I would rather not bother any products from Humanware, for the folks at 
Humanware do not do much.  I would not bother them but simply stay out.

A friend of mine has a Brailliant.  The friend makes similar statements about 
the device as you said.

Scott, I do have a Braille Sense Mini U2 which works good with any devices.  I 
am fine with the U2.

You should better off any contact or any product with Humanware.

Thanks,

Todd



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Scott Davert
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

Hi.
Yes, I've also noticed that the Brailliant display line has had various issues 
with Bluetooth connectivity over the past few years.
The newer firmware seemed to be a bit better when using the HID mode, but I 
haven't honestly used it enough to really say that it's better over a longer 
period of time. I find the Resreshabraille and the HIMS products seem to hold 
the connection better. The first and second generation of the Refreshabraille 
don't seem to hold the connection over a distance of 3 or 4 meters, but the 
newer generation, along with the Braille Edge and Braille Sense tend to hold 
the connection pretty stable for about 10 meters.

Scott

On 11/2/16, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Todd,
> I use the humanware brailliant bi40 with an iphone 6 and latest ios 10 
> version. I am not sure hwat you ean by what kind or type of 
> bluetooth…. I use the humanware braille protocol… Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 05:01, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anouk,
>>
>> What Braille display from HumanWare are you using?  What type or kind 
>> of bluetooth are you using?
>>
>> I am a strong Braille user.  I have a HIMS Braille Sense U2 Mini with 
>> an iPhone 6s.  they work excellent.
>>
>> I am sure Rich will tell you something.  Let him tell you about his 
>> devices.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Anouk Radix
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: what are your experiences with braille displays and 
>> ios/bluetooth?
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my 
>> braille reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of 
>> the books that I have in there are epub or text so no problem to read 
>> those with a braille display. Only the one that I have now the 
>> humanware brailliant bi40 has a VERY unstable and slow bluetooth 
>> connection. I love it for its form factor its looks its sturdyness 
>> its braille cells and its performance through usb with windows and 
>> mac but its bluetooth performance simply really sucks its slow and 
>> VERY unstable often I am not capable to get the connection back either.
>> I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille 
>> displays/ios and bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new 
>> braille display next year and the bluetooth performance will be a major 
>> deciding factor.
>> Thanks,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
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RE: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Todd Patkus]

Anouk,

I mean what type of Bluetooth you have.  Is it the Bluetooth keyboard?

I do not use any devices by Humanware.  I have a Braille Sense Mini U2 with an 
iPhone 6S.  I do have a Bluetooth keyboard from Logistics for typing rahter 
than the Perkins keyboard on the U2.

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anouk Radix
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 5:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

Todd,
I use the humanware brailliant bi40 with an iphone 6 and latest ios 10 version. 
I am not sure hwat you ean by what kind or type of bluetooth…. I use the 
humanware braille protocol… Greetings, Anouk,
> On 2 Nov 2016, at 05:01, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Anouk,
> 
> What Braille display from HumanWare are you using?  What type or kind of 
> bluetooth are you using?
> 
> I am a strong Braille user.  I have a HIMS Braille Sense U2 Mini with an 
> iPhone 6s.  they work excellent.
> 
> I am sure Rich will tell you something.  Let him tell you about his devices.
> 
> Todd
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Anouk Radix
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my braille 
> reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of the books that I 
> have in there are epub or text so no problem to read those with a braille 
> display. Only the one that I have now the humanware brailliant bi40 has a 
> VERY unstable and slow bluetooth connection. I love it for its form factor 
> its looks its sturdyness its braille cells and its performance through usb 
> with windows and mac but its bluetooth performance simply really sucks its 
> slow and VERY unstable often I am not capable to get the connection back 
> either.
> I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille displays/ios and 
> bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new braille display next year 
> and the bluetooth performance will be a major deciding factor.
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
> 
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Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi Scott,
I tried hid also but that does not seem to work on the iphone (by that I mean i 
tried connecting the brailliant while its protocol was set to openbraille 
instead of humanware and the channel to bluetooth).
I dont think the refreshbraille is sold here in the Netherlands but the himms 
displays are being sold here nowedays. I did hear though that some himms 
displays have a bug where braille input/typing is  concerned?
Not that that would be a big issue for me but still…
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 2 Nov 2016, at 13:50, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> Yes, I've also noticed that the Brailliant display line has had
> various issues with Bluetooth connectivity over the past few years.
> The newer firmware seemed to be a bit better when using the HID mode,
> but I haven't honestly used it enough to really say that it's better
> over a longer period of time. I find the Resreshabraille and the HIMS
> products seem to hold the connection better. The first and second
> generation of the Refreshabraille don't seem to hold the connection
> over a distance of 3 or 4 meters, but the newer generation, along with
> the Braille Edge and Braille Sense tend to hold the connection pretty
> stable for about 10 meters.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 11/2/16, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Todd,
>> I use the humanware brailliant bi40 with an iphone 6 and latest ios 10
>> version. I am not sure hwat you ean by what kind or type of bluetooth…. I
>> use the humanware braille protocol…
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 05:01, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anouk,
>>> 
>>> What Braille display from HumanWare are you using?  What type or kind of
>>> bluetooth are you using?
>>> 
>>> I am a strong Braille user.  I have a HIMS Braille Sense U2 Mini with an
>>> iPhone 6s.  they work excellent.
>>> 
>>> I am sure Rich will tell you something.  Let him tell you about his
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Anouk Radix
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: what are your experiences with braille displays and
>>> ios/bluetooth?
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my
>>> braille reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of the
>>> books that I have in there are epub or text so no problem to read those
>>> with a braille display. Only the one that I have now the humanware
>>> brailliant bi40 has a VERY unstable and slow bluetooth connection. I love
>>> it for its form factor its looks its sturdyness its braille cells and its
>>> performance through usb with windows and mac but its bluetooth performance
>>> simply really sucks its slow and VERY unstable often I am not capable to
>>> get the connection back either.
>>> I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille displays/ios
>>> and bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new braille display next
>>> year and the bluetooth performance will be a major deciding factor.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
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Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Keith Bundy]

Hi, Scott. WHAT is h i d mode and how do you run it with the Brailliant BI 40? 

Also I am wondering if phone memory makes a difference. I have 16 GB and the 
phone I used the 32 with on Monday night had 128 GB. Your thoughts? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 2, 2016, at 7:50 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> Yes, I've also noticed that the Brailliant display line has had
> various issues with Bluetooth connectivity over the past few years.
> The newer firmware seemed to be a bit better when using the HID mode,
> but I haven't honestly used it enough to really say that it's better
> over a longer period of time. I find the Resreshabraille and the HIMS
> products seem to hold the connection better. The first and second
> generation of the Refreshabraille don't seem to hold the connection
> over a distance of 3 or 4 meters, but the newer generation, along with
> the Braille Edge and Braille Sense tend to hold the connection pretty
> stable for about 10 meters.
> 
> Scott
> 
>> On 11/2/16, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Todd,
>> I use the humanware brailliant bi40 with an iphone 6 and latest ios 10
>> version. I am not sure hwat you ean by what kind or type of bluetooth…. I
>> use the humanware braille protocol…
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 05:01, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anouk,
>>> 
>>> What Braille display from HumanWare are you using?  What type or kind of
>>> bluetooth are you using?
>>> 
>>> I am a strong Braille user.  I have a HIMS Braille Sense U2 Mini with an
>>> iPhone 6s.  they work excellent.
>>> 
>>> I am sure Rich will tell you something.  Let him tell you about his
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>> Todd
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Anouk Radix
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: what are your experiences with braille displays and
>>> ios/bluetooth?
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my
>>> braille reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of the
>>> books that I have in there are epub or text so no problem to read those
>>> with a braille display. Only the one that I have now the humanware
>>> brailliant bi40 has a VERY unstable and slow bluetooth connection. I love
>>> it for its form factor its looks its sturdyness its braille cells and its
>>> performance through usb with windows and mac but its bluetooth performance
>>> simply really sucks its slow and VERY unstable often I am not capable to
>>> get the connection back either.
>>> I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille displays/ios
>>> and bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new braille display next
>>> year and the bluetooth performance will be a major deciding factor.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
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Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Scott Davert]

Hi.
Yes, I've also noticed that the Brailliant display line has had
various issues with Bluetooth connectivity over the past few years.
The newer firmware seemed to be a bit better when using the HID mode,
but I haven't honestly used it enough to really say that it's better
over a longer period of time. I find the Resreshabraille and the HIMS
products seem to hold the connection better. The first and second
generation of the Refreshabraille don't seem to hold the connection
over a distance of 3 or 4 meters, but the newer generation, along with
the Braille Edge and Braille Sense tend to hold the connection pretty
stable for about 10 meters.

Scott

On 11/2/16, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Todd,
> I use the humanware brailliant bi40 with an iphone 6 and latest ios 10
> version. I am not sure hwat you ean by what kind or type of bluetooth…. I
> use the humanware braille protocol…
> Greetings, Anouk,
>> On 2 Nov 2016, at 05:01, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anouk,
>>
>> What Braille display from HumanWare are you using?  What type or kind of
>> bluetooth are you using?
>>
>> I am a strong Braille user.  I have a HIMS Braille Sense U2 Mini with an
>> iPhone 6s.  they work excellent.
>>
>> I am sure Rich will tell you something.  Let him tell you about his
>> devices.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Anouk Radix
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: what are your experiences with braille displays and
>> ios/bluetooth?
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my
>> braille reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of the
>> books that I have in there are epub or text so no problem to read those
>> with a braille display. Only the one that I have now the humanware
>> brailliant bi40 has a VERY unstable and slow bluetooth connection. I love
>> it for its form factor its looks its sturdyness its braille cells and its
>> performance through usb with windows and mac but its bluetooth performance
>> simply really sucks its slow and VERY unstable often I am not capable to
>> get the connection back either.
>> I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille displays/ios
>> and bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new braille display next
>> year and the bluetooth performance will be a major deciding factor.
>> Thanks,
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
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Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Anouk Radix]

Todd,
I use the humanware brailliant bi40 with an iphone 6 and latest ios 10 version. 
I am not sure hwat you ean by what kind or type of bluetooth…. I use the 
humanware braille protocol…
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 2 Nov 2016, at 05:01, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Anouk,
> 
> What Braille display from HumanWare are you using?  What type or kind of 
> bluetooth are you using?
> 
> I am a strong Braille user.  I have a HIMS Braille Sense U2 Mini with an 
> iPhone 6s.  they work excellent.
> 
> I am sure Rich will tell you something.  Let him tell you about his devices.
> 
> Todd
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anouk Radix
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my braille 
> reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of the books that I 
> have in there are epub or text so no problem to read those with a braille 
> display. Only the one that I have now the humanware brailliant bi40 has a 
> VERY unstable and slow bluetooth connection. I love it for its form factor 
> its looks its sturdyness its braille cells and its performance through usb 
> with windows and mac but its bluetooth performance simply really sucks its 
> slow and VERY unstable often I am not capable to get the connection back 
> either.
> I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille displays/ios and 
> bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new braille display next year 
> and the bluetooth performance will be a major deciding factor.
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
> 
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Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, I use it with an iphone 6 and the newest ios 10 version.
Although I must say I have heard complaints about bluetooth and this display 
for years now.
Greetings, Anouk,
> On 2 Nov 2016, at 02:16, Keith B. <kb5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello, Anouk. I too have noticed the sluggish bluetooth connection with the 
> Brailliant BI 40, running IOS 10 on an iPhone 6. I called Humanware about it, 
> and they told me it's an issue with the operating system, which I doubt.
> 
> I got a chance to try a Brailliant BI 32 on an iPhone 7 last night, and 
> things seemed much more responsive. I am seriously considering getting an 
> iPhone 7 for myself. I'm just wondering which iPhone you are using your 
> Brailiant 40 on?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Keith
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 5:01:43 PM UTC-5, Anouk wrote:
> Hi Everyone, 
> I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my braille 
> reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of the books that I 
> have in there are epub or text so no problem to read those with a braille 
> display. Only the one that I have now the humanware brailliant bi40 has a 
> VERY unstable and slow bluetooth connection. I love it for its form factor 
> its looks its sturdyness its braille cells and its performance through usb 
> with windows and mac but its bluetooth performance simply really sucks its 
> slow and VERY unstable often I am not capable to get the connection back 
> either. 
> I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille displays/ios and 
> bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new braille display next year 
> and the bluetooth performance will be a major deciding factor. 
> Thanks, 
> Greetings, Anouk,
> 
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RE: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Todd Patkus]

Anouk,

What Braille display from HumanWare are you using?  What type or kind of 
bluetooth are you using?

I am a strong Braille user.  I have a HIMS Braille Sense U2 Mini with an iPhone 
6s.  they work excellent.

I am sure Rich will tell you something.  Let him tell you about his devices.

Todd

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Anouk Radix
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

Hi Everyone,
I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my braille 
reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of the books that I 
have in there are epub or text so no problem to read those with a braille 
display. Only the one that I have now the humanware brailliant bi40 has a VERY 
unstable and slow bluetooth connection. I love it for its form factor its looks 
its sturdyness its braille cells and its performance through usb with windows 
and mac but its bluetooth performance simply really sucks its slow and VERY 
unstable often I am not capable to get the connection back either.
I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille displays/ios and 
bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new braille display next year and 
the bluetooth performance will be a major deciding factor.
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Keith B.]

Hello, Anouk. I too have noticed the sluggish bluetooth connection with the 
Brailliant BI 40, running IOS 10 on an iPhone 6. I called Humanware about 
it, and they told me it's an issue with the operating system, which I doubt.

I got a chance to try a Brailliant BI 32 on an iPhone 7 last night, and 
things seemed much more responsive. I am seriously considering getting an 
iPhone 7 for myself. I'm just wondering which iPhone you are using your 
Brailiant 40 on?

Thanks.

Keith
On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 5:01:43 PM UTC-5, Anouk wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone, 
> I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my 
> braille reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of the 
> books that I have in there are epub or text so no problem to read those 
> with a braille display. Only the one that I have now the humanware 
> brailliant bi40 has a VERY unstable and slow bluetooth connection. I love 
> it for its form factor its looks its sturdyness its braille cells and its 
> performance through usb with windows and mac but its bluetooth performance 
> simply really sucks its slow and VERY unstable often I am not capable to 
> get the connection back either. 
> I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille displays/ios 
> and bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new braille display next 
> year and the bluetooth performance will be a major deciding factor. 
> Thanks, 
> Greetings, Anouk,

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what are your experiences with braille displays and ios/bluetooth?

[Anouk Radix]

Hi Everyone,
I am doing a lot more with my iphone these days but want to keep my braille 
reading skills in tact. I use voicedream a lot and a lot of the books that I 
have in there are epub or text so no problem to read those with a braille 
display. Only the one that I have now the humanware brailliant bi40 has a VERY 
unstable and slow bluetooth connection. I love it for its form factor its looks 
its sturdyness its braille cells and its performance through usb with windows 
and mac but its bluetooth performance simply really sucks its slow and VERY 
unstable often I am not capable to get the connection back either.
I was wondering what are your experiences regarding braille displays/ios and 
bluetooth stability? I will be able to get a new braille display next year and 
the bluetooth performance will be a major deciding factor.
Thanks,
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[christopher hallsworth]

Not that I know of. The idea is to type in Braille on the touch screen just 
like you could with MBraille and BrailleTouch however you can do this in any 
text field. Typing on a Braille display should be the same as it always has 
been in previous releases.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

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 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
 and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
 so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
 and it would be great if they added that ability.
 
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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[Wayne Merritt]

Okay, thanks all for the responses. I was talking about the ability
to, perhaps enter text with a Braille display like the new braille
input mode or handwriting modes for entering text. I don't think that
it would be that difficult since many displays are already supported
and can be used to enter text. In my suggestion to Apple
Accessibility, I mentioned that perhaps a dot 3 and space or dot 6 and
space could be used to switch between numbers, contracted, and
uncontracted braille. Given the new braille input mode I have heard of
in iOS 8, it seems like this could be possible. Oh well, perhaps in a
future update. I think it would be cool if they added it though since
that could mean input by Braille display to even more places in iOS.

Best,
Wayne

On 9/21/14, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 Not that I know of. The idea is to type in Braille on the touch screen just
 like you could with MBraille and BrailleTouch however you can do this in any
 text field. Typing on a Braille display should be the same as it always has
 been in previous releases.

 Sent from my Macbook Pro

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 Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
 and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
 and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
 so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
 and it would be great if they added that ability.

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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[Teresa Cochran]

It has been possible to use Braille input on a display since Voiceover was 
implemented. This works independently from any screen input mode. The onscreen 
Braille input is meant for you to be able to Braille directly onto the 
touchscreen. This comes in handy if you don't have a Braille display or if you 
don't have it handy.

Teresa

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 On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, thanks all for the responses. I was talking about the ability
 to, perhaps enter text with a Braille display like the new braille
 input mode or handwriting modes for entering text. I don't think that
 it would be that difficult since many displays are already supported
 and can be used to enter text. In my suggestion to Apple
 Accessibility, I mentioned that perhaps a dot 3 and space or dot 6 and
 space could be used to switch between numbers, contracted, and
 uncontracted braille. Given the new braille input mode I have heard of
 in iOS 8, it seems like this could be possible. Oh well, perhaps in a
 future update. I think it would be cool if they added it though since
 that could mean input by Braille display to even more places in iOS.
 
 Best,
 Wayne
 
 On 9/21/14, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 Not that I know of. The idea is to type in Braille on the touch screen just
 like you could with MBraille and BrailleTouch however you can do this in any
 text field. Typing on a Braille display should be the same as it always has
 been in previous releases.
 
 Sent from my Macbook Pro
 
 On 19 Sep 2014, at 22:04, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
 and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
 and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
 so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
 and it would be great if they added that ability.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Wayne
 
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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[Wayne Merritt]

Understood. I was thinking it would be handy to enter the first few
letters of an app's name on a home screen with a braille display,
verses having to search each screen or find a certain app which may be
on screen 4 or 7 and then open the app.

Wayne

On 9/21/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 It has been possible to use Braille input on a display since Voiceover was
 implemented. This works independently from any screen input mode. The
 onscreen Braille input is meant for you to be able to Braille directly onto
 the touchscreen. This comes in handy if you don't have a Braille display or
 if you don't have it handy.

 Teresa

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 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, thanks all for the responses. I was talking about the ability
 to, perhaps enter text with a Braille display like the new braille
 input mode or handwriting modes for entering text. I don't think that
 it would be that difficult since many displays are already supported
 and can be used to enter text. In my suggestion to Apple
 Accessibility, I mentioned that perhaps a dot 3 and space or dot 6 and
 space could be used to switch between numbers, contracted, and
 uncontracted braille. Given the new braille input mode I have heard of
 in iOS 8, it seems like this could be possible. Oh well, perhaps in a
 future update. I think it would be cool if they added it though since
 that could mean input by Braille display to even more places in iOS.

 Best,
 Wayne

 On 9/21/14, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 Not that I know of. The idea is to type in Braille on the touch screen
 just
 like you could with MBraille and BrailleTouch however you can do this in
 any
 text field. Typing on a Braille display should be the same as it always
 has
 been in previous releases.

 Sent from my Macbook Pro

 On 19 Sep 2014, at 22:04, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
 and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
 and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
 so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
 and it would be great if they added that ability.

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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

A reasonably quick way to search for an app and open it is to make sure focus 
is anywhere other than the status bar. Then type Space with dots 3-4-5-6. This 
opens Spotlight. Type a few characters and press Enter. Press Space with Dot 4 
a few times, and you should reach the app you want. Press Return again to open 
it.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 21, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Understood. I was thinking it would be handy to enter the first few
 letters of an app's name on a home screen with a braille display,
 verses having to search each screen or find a certain app which may be
 on screen 4 or 7 and then open the app.
 
 Wayne
 
 On 9/21/14, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 It has been possible to use Braille input on a display since Voiceover was
 implemented. This works independently from any screen input mode. The
 onscreen Braille input is meant for you to be able to Braille directly onto
 the touchscreen. This comes in handy if you don't have a Braille display or
 if you don't have it handy.
 
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, thanks all for the responses. I was talking about the ability
 to, perhaps enter text with a Braille display like the new braille
 input mode or handwriting modes for entering text. I don't think that
 it would be that difficult since many displays are already supported
 and can be used to enter text. In my suggestion to Apple
 Accessibility, I mentioned that perhaps a dot 3 and space or dot 6 and
 space could be used to switch between numbers, contracted, and
 uncontracted braille. Given the new braille input mode I have heard of
 in iOS 8, it seems like this could be possible. Oh well, perhaps in a
 future update. I think it would be cool if they added it though since
 that could mean input by Braille display to even more places in iOS.
 
 Best,
 Wayne
 
 On 9/21/14, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 Not that I know of. The idea is to type in Braille on the touch screen
 just
 like you could with MBraille and BrailleTouch however you can do this in
 any
 text field. Typing on a Braille display should be the same as it always
 has
 been in previous releases.
 
 Sent from my Macbook Pro
 
 On 19 Sep 2014, at 22:04, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
 and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
 and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
 so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
 and it would be great if they added that ability.
 
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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[RobH!]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but input from an external braille keyboard would 
send to the iDevice just like a qwerty external keyboard, so cranking round 
the rotor to braille would serve no purpose, probably complicate the issue.

The rotor setting is for those who can't or don't have an external braille 
keyboard.

robH.
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To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:04 PM
Subject: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
and it would be great if they added that ability.

Thanks in advance,
Wayne

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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[RobH!]

Ok, this is much more interesting.

So,  anyone with a working external keyboard, a bluetooth one - I know it's 
been an issue!
But,  if you have a working external keyboard,  do as he asks, crank the 
rotor round to braille, then tap the first letter of an app that should be 
on the screen, and see if it finds anything.

That would be useful, and,  if it worked for one, it should work for the 
other.

JMO, RobH.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


Sorry, I suppose I should have explained more. I was wondering if you
could turn the rodar to braille when on a home screen and use the
braille display to open apps from the home screen? I know you can
braile things from the display in different edit boxes and files.

Wayne

On 9/19/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 In iOS7 (and before), with your braille display Bluetooth paired and
 Voiceover running, you can already write (in braille) with your braille
 display's keys, without need of any rotor adjustment beyond the usual
 Voiceover things. You can also write with the onscreen keyboard and your
 output can be read from the braille display. I suppose the feedback
 might be a bit quicker, with Contracted braille, but we already know
 that braille translation is not the most instant or intuitive synergy. .
 .

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 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:04 PM
 Subject: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


 Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
 and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
 and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[RobH!]

Has anyone tried it yet, like I said in a previous post, can you type a 
letter on an external keyboard in that mode braille/hand-writing, and have 
it find something.

I haven't got a bt keyboard to play with right now or would test it myself.

RobH, wondering where to borrow one.

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Subject: Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


Perhaps there would need to be a specific 'fraille display' Rotor setting 
for this? I think Apple/VO can only go so far with differing hardware 
braille drivers, so that this is unlikely any time soon. .

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  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


  I know what the OP is saying though, and no you can't. He is asking if he 
can now use the display's keyboard to search for and open apps on the home 
screen like the on-screen braille or handwriting modes allow. Unless I 
missed something, this is still not possible.

  On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:22 PM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:


you've been able to n braille using a display for ages on the iphone, no 
need to turn a router to anything, just input braille.

  On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
  and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
  the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
  Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
  display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
  and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
  so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[RobH!]

Coo, that's useful; not done that before, got more than I bargained for, 
too.

Rh.

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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


Do a three finger swipe down on a home screen to bring up the spot light
search.

On 09/19/2014 10:03 PM, David wrote:
 Well, it can be done the same way it is done with a QWERTY keyboard,
 through spotlight search. I always use handwriting feature for this
 purpose, so do not remember how to bring up spotlight search.

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 On 20 Sep 2014, at 13:24, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
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 I know what the OP is saying though, and no you can't. He is asking if
 he can now use the display's keyboard to search for and open apps on
 the home screen like the on-screen braille or handwriting modes allow.
 Unless I missed something, this is still not possible.
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:22 PM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com
 mailto:ali...@gmail.com wrote:

 you've been able to n braille using a display for ages on the iphone,
 no need to turn a router to anything, just input braille.
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 and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[Teresa Cochran]

I'm confused by your question, because using the onscreen keyboard doesn't have 
anything to do with an external device. It's like turning to handwriting mode 
and trying to use an external keyboard. I don't think the two modes are 
compatible. I did try using a Braille display to enter text while on the home 
screen, and it doesn't work, with or without the onscreen mode being activated.

Teresa

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the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Sep 20, 2014, at 2:37 AM, RobH! bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone tried it yet, like I said in a previous post, can you type a 
 letter on an external keyboard in that mode braille/hand-writing, and have 
 it find something.
 
 I haven't got a bt keyboard to play with right now or would test it myself.
 
 RobH, wondering where to borrow one.
 
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 From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 3:06 AM
 Subject: Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8
 
 
 Perhaps there would need to be a specific 'fraille display' Rotor setting 
 for this? I think Apple/VO can only go so far with differing hardware 
 braille drivers, so that this is unlikely any time soon. .
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8
 
 
  I know what the OP is saying though, and no you can't. He is asking if he 
 can now use the display's keyboard to search for and open apps on the home 
 screen like the on-screen braille or handwriting modes allow. Unless I 
 missed something, this is still not possible.
 
  On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:22 PM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
you've been able to n braille using a display for ages on the iphone, no 
 need to turn a router to anything, just input braille.
 
  On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
  and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
  the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
  Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
  display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
  and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
  so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
  and it would be great if they added that ability.
 
 
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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

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No.  If your rotor is set to handwriting, handwriting is all you can do, and 
not from an external device.  It is done on the touch screen.  That would be 
like trying to write onto a sheet of paper by using a typewriter across the 
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Has anyone tried it yet, like I said in a previous post, can you type a
letter on an external keyboard in that mode braille/hand-writing, and have
it find something.

I haven't got a bt keyboard to play with right now or would test it myself.

RobH, wondering where to borrow one.

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Subject: Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


Perhaps there would need to be a specific 'fraille display' Rotor setting
for this? I think Apple/VO can only go so far with differing hardware
braille drivers, so that this is unlikely any time soon. .

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 From: Alex Hall

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 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:24 AM
 Subject: Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


 I know what the OP is saying though, and no you can't. He is asking if he
can now use the display's keyboard to search for and open apps on the home
screen like the on-screen braille or handwriting modes allow. Unless I
missed something, this is still not possible.

 On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:22 PM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:


   you've been able to n braille using a display for ages on the iphone, no
need to turn a router to anything, just input braille.

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wrote:

 Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
 and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
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Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

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Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
and it would be great if they added that ability.

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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

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In iOS7 (and before), with your braille display Bluetooth paired and
Voiceover running, you can already write (in braille) with your braille
display's keys, without need of any rotor adjustment beyond the usual
Voiceover things. You can also write with the onscreen keyboard and your 
output can be read from the braille display. I suppose the feedback 
might be a bit quicker, with Contracted braille, but we already know 
that braille translation is not the most instant or intuitive synergy. . 
.


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Subject: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
and it would be great if they added that ability.

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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[Wayne Merritt]

Sorry, I suppose I should have explained more. I was wondering if you
could turn the rodar to braille when on a home screen and use the
braille display to open apps from the home screen? I know you can
braile things from the display in different edit boxes and files.

Wayne

On 9/19/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 In iOS7 (and before), with your braille display Bluetooth paired and
 Voiceover running, you can already write (in braille) with your braille
 display's keys, without need of any rotor adjustment beyond the usual
 Voiceover things. You can also write with the onscreen keyboard and your
 output can be read from the braille display. I suppose the feedback
 might be a bit quicker, with Contracted braille, but we already know
 that braille translation is not the most instant or intuitive synergy. .
 .

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 Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:04 PM
 Subject: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


 Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
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 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
 and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
 so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
 and it would be great if they added that ability.

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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[Charles Rivard]

The setting on the router is to be used when you want to use an onscreen 
braille keyboard that is built into oS8.  If you want to use your braille 
display just as you currently do, you do it exactly as you currently do. 
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Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
and it would be great if they added that ability.

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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[alia robinson]

you've been able to n braille using a display for ages on the iphone, no need 
to turn a router to anything, just input braille.
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
 and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

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I know what the OP is saying though, and no you can't. He is asking if he can 
now use the display's keyboard to search for and open apps on the home screen 
like the on-screen braille or handwriting modes allow. Unless I missed 
something, this is still not possible.
On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:22 PM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:

 you've been able to n braille using a display for ages on the iphone, no need 
 to turn a router to anything, just input braille.
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
 and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
 and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
 so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[Flor Lynch]

Perhaps there would need to be a specific 'fraille display' Rotor setting for 
this? I think Apple/VO can only go so far with differing hardware braille 
drivers, so that this is unlikely any time soon. . 

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  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8


  I know what the OP is saying though, and no you can't. He is asking if he can 
now use the display's keyboard to search for and open apps on the home screen 
like the on-screen braille or handwriting modes allow. Unless I missed 
something, this is still not possible.

  On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:22 PM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:


you've been able to n braille using a display for ages on the iphone, no 
need to turn a router to anything, just input braille.

  On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
  and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
  the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
  Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
  display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
  and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
  so since I sent a note to Apple Accessibility about this not long ago
  and it would be great if they added that ability.


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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[David Chittenden]

Well, it can be done the same way it is done with a QWERTY keyboard, through 
spotlight search. I always use handwriting feature for this purpose, so do not 
remember how to bring up spotlight search.

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 On 20 Sep 2014, at 13:24, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I know what the OP is saying though, and no you can't. He is asking if he can 
 now use the display's keyboard to search for and open apps on the home screen 
 like the on-screen braille or handwriting modes allow. Unless I missed 
 something, this is still not possible.
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:22 PM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 you've been able to n braille using a display for ages on the iphone, no 
 need to turn a router to anything, just input braille.
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings all. I have an iPhone 5 with iOS 7. I haven't upgraded yet
 and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
 the week after. I have seen people talk about being able to type in
 Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
 display? In other words, when on iOS 8 can I turn my rodar to braille
 and then write in Braille using my Focus 14 Blue display? I sure hope
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Re: Braille input and using Braille displays in iOS 8

[Christopher Chaltain]

Do a three finger swipe down on a home screen to bring up the spot light 
search.


On 09/19/2014 10:03 PM, Davidwrote:

Well, it can be done the same way it is done with a QWERTY keyboard,
through spotlight search. I always use handwriting feature for this
purpose, so do not remember how to bring up spotlight search.

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I know what the OP is saying though, and no you can't. He is asking if
he can now use the display's keyboard to search for and open apps on
the home screen like the on-screen braille or handwriting modes allow.
Unless I missed something, this is still not possible.
On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:22 PM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com
mailto:ali...@gmail.com wrote:


you've been able to n braille using a display for ages on the iphone,
no need to turn a router to anything, just input braille.

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and am not sure tha i Iwill until I get a new iPhone 6 next week or
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Braille in iOS 8. My question is: can this be done with a Braille
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[Rebecca Ilniski]

Can this list include braille touch as a topic?  Anything Braille andios?

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Re: Braille displays with iOS devices

[Terje Strømberg]

Hi,

Yes.

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RE: Braille displays with iOS devices

[Carrie Snodgrass]

Sorry, I'm a little behind on my e-mails, but I think such a list would be a
great idea.
Carrie



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Subject: Braille displays with iOS devices

Hi All,

Apologies for the blank message I just sent.

Would there be any interest in a list specifically for those using braille
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Re: Braille displays with iOS devices

[Eileens Misrahi]

,Hi Tracy,
I would be interested in a separate list for all things in braille for iOS 
devices. I am using BrailleTouch as we communicate about you starting a 
different list. Keep us in the loop what your decision is regarding this.

Best,
Eileen

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 Sorry, I'm a little behind on my e-mails, but I think such a list would be a
 great idea.
 Carrie
 
 
 
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Re: Braille displays with iOS devices

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

I am the moderator of that group. We got so little traffic, that I am in doubt 
about the value to have a braille list. Maybe things has changed, if you like, 
I will send the necessary information out. I will have to figure it out, 
because googlegroups has been changed after I made the group.

Best regards Annie.On Mar 25, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Jonathan Mosen 
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 There actually is one, I think it's called AppleBraille or something like 
 that. I'm subscribed to it but very seldom see any posts.
 
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 Would there be any interest in a list specifically for those using
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Braille displays with iOS devices

[Kimber Gardner]

Hi All,

Apologies for the blank message I just sent.

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Re: Braille displays with iOS devices

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There actually is one, I think it's called AppleBraille or something like that. 
I'm subscribed to it but very seldom see any posts.

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Re: Braille displays with iOS devices

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Thanks Jonathan. I'll look for it.

Kimber

On 3/25/13, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 There actually is one, I think it's called AppleBraille or something like
 that. I'm subscribed to it but very seldom see any posts.

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Re: Braille displays with iOS devices

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No problem, I think it may be a Google Group, but it gets so little traffic 
that I don't know if that's right.

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 Thanks Jonathan. I'll look for it.
 
 Kimber
 
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