RE: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-08-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Also, if all it says is iPhone SE you would have to know which iPhone SE it is 
based on when you bought it.

Alternatively, you can double tap on the model number which consists of letters 
and numbers and you then get a 4-digit model number with the letter "A" in 
front of it.

On my iPhone 13 Pro the model number is MLUP3VC/A and when I double tap on it I 
get A2636.

If you Google that 4-digit model number with A in front, you can find out which 
phone you have. In my case, if I Google "iPhone A2636" I find websites 
including one from Apple which allows you to identify your phone, but many 
sites also list all the other models of iPhone 13 Pro which are available 
around the world. For example, the A2636 which I have has the following 
description:



The iPhone 13 Pro A2636 is the model available in Canada, Japan, Mexico and 
Saudi Arabia. Notice that the Japanese model still has a camera shutter sound 
and we can’t disable it.

This model supports dual eSIM and dual SIM with an eSIM and a nano-SIM card.



In addition to that model, the iPhone 13 Pro also comes as A2483, A2638, A2639 
and A2640.



A2483:

The iPhone 13 Pro A2483 is on sale exclusively in the United States. This is 
the most desirable model because it is the only model supporting 5G mmWave 
network. The look is slightly different as it has a side cutout for the 5G 
antenna.

It has Dual SIM capability with nano-SIM and eSIM and it also supports Dual 
eSIM.



A2638:

The iPhone 13 Pro A2638 is the most popular edition as it is on sale in the UK, 
South America, Asia, Europe, Africa, and Australia.

This model supports Dual SIM (nano‑SIM and eSIM) and Dual eSIM. If you buy the 
Korean version, it has a shutter sound when taking photos.



A2639:

The iPhone 13 Pro A2639 is the version in China mainland, Hong Kong, and Macau. 
Similar to previous years, the Chinese iPhone disables FaceTime Audio and Wi-Fi 
calling while this is not a problem for Hong Kong model.

This is the only model supporting dual nano-SIM cards.



A2640:

The iPhone 13 Pro A2640 is on sale in Russia and some other countries. This 
version offers some Russian apps during initial setup as required by local 
regulations.

It supports Dual SIM (nano‑SIM and eSIM) and Dual eSIM.



If you go to the Identify your iPhone 
model<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201296> website from Apple, you can 
look up the model numbers of all iPhones all the way back to the original 
iPhone introduced in 2007. It lists the model numbers, a bit of other 
information, when it was introduced and each model has a link to the technical 
specifications for that phone where you can find things like which chip it has, 
iOS version when released, dimensions and weight etc.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020



Hello,

OK, if my iPhone  lists SE as the model in the about area of settings, does 
this mean I don’t have the SE2020? I thought my phone had the same processor as 
the iPhone 8.



Sent from my iPhone



> On Aug 17, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

>

> Jonathan, the iPhone SE 2020 and the iPhone 11 are almost identical as far 
> as performance is concerned, they both have Apple's A13 chip and the only 
> difference is that the iPhone 11 has 4 Gb of RAM and the iPhone SE 2020 has 
> only 3 Gb, but I doubt this makes a lot of difference for many day-to-day 
> types of use.

> The main differences are in the size, the camera and the fact that the iPhone 
> SE has Touch Id instead of Face Id.

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Cohn

> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:17 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

>

> Actually, I am feeling sure that with the SC 2020 you cannot tell Siri to 
> stop while it is active unless you’re using AirPod pros. This is because the 
> processing is not powerful enough to separate voice input from the sound 
> output. Certainly my wife’s iPhone 11 can do this though.

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Aug 16, 2023, at 2:15 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

>>

>> Yes, you can tell Siri "Stop" if music is playing and it will stop it and 
>> also "play" will start it playing again.

>> This also works fo rme if I am using Audible to listen to a book, it seems 
>> that the "play" and "stop" commands work with whatever w

RE: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-08-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
There are 3 models of iPhone SE by now, the original (1st Generation) was 
released in March 2016, the SE 2nd Gen in March of 2020 and the SE 3rd Gen in 
March of 2022.
Each of these SE models has the same chip as the phones released in September 
prior, so the Se 1st Gen has the same chip as the iPhone 6S/6S Plus which were 
released in September 2015, the iPhone Se 2nd Gen (2020) has the same chip as 
the iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max released in September 2019 and the Se 3rd Gen 
(2022) has the same chip as the iPhone 13/13 Mini/13 Pro/13 Pro Max which were 
released in September 2021. Hwere a listing of all phones since the 6S/6S Plus 
in 2015 and their chips:

September 2015: iPhone 6S/6S Plus
March 2016: iPhone SE 1st Generation, also refered to as just iPhone SE since 
it was the first one
Chip: Apple A9 (14 nm architecture)

September 2016: iPhone 7/7 Plus
Chip: Apple A10 Fusion

September 2017: iPhone 8/8 Plus and iPhone X
Chip: Apple A11 Bionic (10 nm architecture)

September 2018: iPhone XS/XS Max and iPhone XR
Cjhip: Apple A12 Bionic (7 nm architecture)

September 2019: iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max
March 2020: iPhone SE 2nd Generation also called SE 2020
Chip: Apple A13 Bionic (7 nm+ architecture)

September 2020: iPhone 12/12 Mini/12 Pro/12 Pro Max
Chip: Apple A14 Bionic (5 nm architecture)

September 2021: iPhone 13/13 Mini/13 Pro/13 Pro Max
March 2022: iPhone SE 3rd Gen also called SE 2022
Chip: Apple A15 Bionic (5 nm architecture)

September 2022: iPhone 14/14 Plus/14 Pro/14 Pro Max
Chip in 14/14 Plus: Apple A15 Bionic (5 nm architecture), same as in iPhone 13 
family
Chip in 14 Pro/14 Pro Max: Apple A16 Bionic (4 nm architecture)
2022 was the first year Apple did not put their latest chip in the basic iPhone 
14/14 Plus, only Pro models got the a16 chip. It is expected this continues 
where only Pro/Ultra models get the newest chip and regular models get last 
year's chip.

September 2023: upcoming iPhone 15/15 Plus/15 Pro/15 Ultra
Chip in 15 and 15 Plus: Apple A16 Bionic (4 nm architecture), same as in iPhone 
14 Pro/Pro Max last year
Chip in 15 Pro and Ultra (if that is what it will be called): A17 Bionic most 
likely with 3 NM architecture

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

Hello,
OK, if my iPhone  lists SE as the model in the about area of settings, does 
this mean I don’t have the SE2020? I thought my phone had the same processor as 
the iPhone 8.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan, the iPhone SE 2020 and the iPhone 11 are almost identical as far 
> as performance is concerned, they both have Apple's A13 chip and the only 
> difference is that the iPhone 11 has 4 Gb of RAM and the iPhone SE 2020 has 
> only 3 Gb, but I doubt this makes a lot of difference for many day-to-day 
> types of use.
> The main differences are in the size, the camera and the fact that the iPhone 
> SE has Touch Id instead of Face Id.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020
> 
> Actually, I am feeling sure that with the SC 2020 you cannot tell Siri to 
> stop while it is active unless you’re using AirPod pros. This is because the 
> processing is not powerful enough to separate voice input from the sound 
> output. Certainly my wife’s iPhone 11 can do this though.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2023, at 2:15 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you can tell Siri "Stop" if music is playing and it will stop it and 
>> also "play" will start it playing again.
>> This also works fo rme if I am using Audible to listen to a book, it seems 
>> that the "play" and "stop" commands work with whatever was playing last.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> joseph hudson
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 8:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020
>> 
>> Margaret, I hope you're still on this list. But yes, a two finger double tap 
>> wall stop and start the music. And no, there is no verbal command. I don't 
>> believe. I've never tried asking Siri to stop the music, but that would be 
>> something that you could ask her.
>> 
>>>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Margaret Thomas  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That did the trick, Joseph.  Thank you.  The screen to put in my pass code 
>>> came up with the phone talking and phone life is good again.
>>> 
>>> For future reference, 

Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-08-18 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello,
OK, if my iPhone  lists SE as the model in the about area of settings, does 
this mean I don’t have the SE2020? I thought my phone had the same processor as 
the iPhone 8.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan, the iPhone SE 2020 and the iPhone 11 are almost identical as far 
> as performance is concerned, they both have Apple's A13 chip and the only 
> difference is that the iPhone 11 has 4 Gb of RAM and the iPhone SE 2020 has 
> only 3 Gb, but I doubt this makes a lot of difference for many day-to-day 
> types of use.
> The main differences are in the size, the camera and the fact that the iPhone 
> SE has Touch Id instead of Face Id.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020
> 
> Actually, I am feeling sure that with the SC 2020 you cannot tell Siri to 
> stop while it is active unless you’re using AirPod pros. This is because the 
> processing is not powerful enough to separate voice input from the sound 
> output. Certainly my wife’s iPhone 11 can do this though.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2023, at 2:15 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you can tell Siri "Stop" if music is playing and it will stop it and 
>> also "play" will start it playing again.
>> This also works fo rme if I am using Audible to listen to a book, it seems 
>> that the "play" and "stop" commands work with whatever was playing last.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> joseph hudson
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 8:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020
>> 
>> Margaret, I hope you're still on this list. But yes, a two finger double tap 
>> wall stop and start the music. And no, there is no verbal command. I don't 
>> believe. I've never tried asking Siri to stop the music, but that would be 
>> something that you could ask her.
>> 
>>>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Margaret Thomas  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That did the trick, Joseph.  Thank you.  The screen to put in my pass code 
>>> came up with the phone talking and phone life is good again.
>>> 
>>> For future reference, was my memory correct that a two finger double tap if 
>>> done correctly should stop the music playing?  Is there a verbal command to 
>>> stop music playing?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6/2/2023 8:45 AM, joseph hudson wrote:
>>>> A three finger double tap will turn on speech. If you're hearing the 
>>>> clicking noises, it's only because speech is turned off.
>>>>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Margaret Thomas  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, All:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working 
>>>>> fine before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what 
>>>>> Siri would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started 
>>>>> playing.  I do virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger 
>>>>> double tap would turn it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture 
>>>>> correctly, but it didn't stop the music.  More tries with no success. 
>>>>> Tried saying different versions of stop with no luck.  At one point tried 
>>>>> turning off the phone with no joy.  Moved the mute button with no luck.  
>>>>> Saying cancel music stopped the music, but now, it says VoiceOver is 
>>>>> turned on; that it is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  When I move 
>>>>> my finger around the screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri to go 
>>>>> to messages, for example, it says you must unlock the phone first.  The 
>>>>> home button won't budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up phone 
>>>>> and I readily admit that I am still not good with it.  The only other 
>>>>> thing I can think of is the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what it 
>>>>> is responding to.  Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Margaret
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> The following information is importan

RE: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-08-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Jonathan, the iPhone SE 2020 and the iPhone 11 are almost identical as far as 
performance is concerned, they both have Apple's A13 chip and the only 
difference is that the iPhone 11 has 4 Gb of RAM and the iPhone SE 2020 has 
only 3 Gb, but I doubt this makes a lot of difference for many day-to-day types 
of use.
The main differences are in the size, the camera and the fact that the iPhone 
SE has Touch Id instead of Face Id.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

Actually, I am feeling sure that with the SC 2020 you cannot tell Siri to stop 
while it is active unless you’re using AirPod pros. This is because the 
processing is not powerful enough to separate voice input from the sound 
output. Certainly my wife’s iPhone 11 can do this though.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 16, 2023, at 2:15 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you can tell Siri "Stop" if music is playing and it will stop it and 
> also "play" will start it playing again.
> This also works fo rme if I am using Audible to listen to a book, it seems 
> that the "play" and "stop" commands work with whatever was playing last.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 8:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020
> 
> Margaret, I hope you're still on this list. But yes, a two finger double tap 
> wall stop and start the music. And no, there is no verbal command. I don't 
> believe. I've never tried asking Siri to stop the music, but that would be 
> something that you could ask her.
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
>> 
>> That did the trick, Joseph.  Thank you.  The screen to put in my pass code 
>> came up with the phone talking and phone life is good again.
>> 
>> For future reference, was my memory correct that a two finger double tap if 
>> done correctly should stop the music playing?  Is there a verbal command to 
>> stop music playing?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/2/2023 8:45 AM, joseph hudson wrote:
>>> A three finger double tap will turn on speech. If you're hearing the 
>>> clicking noises, it's only because speech is turned off.
>>>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Margaret Thomas  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, All:
>>>> 
>>>> I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working 
>>>> fine before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what 
>>>> Siri would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started 
>>>> playing.  I do virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger 
>>>> double tap would turn it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture 
>>>> correctly, but it didn't stop the music.  More tries with no success. 
>>>> Tried saying different versions of stop with no luck.  At one point tried 
>>>> turning off the phone with no joy.  Moved the mute button with no luck.  
>>>> Saying cancel music stopped the music, but now, it says VoiceOver is 
>>>> turned on; that it is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  When I move my 
>>>> finger around the screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri to go to 
>>>> messages, for example, it says you must unlock the phone first.  The home 
>>>> button won't budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up phone and I 
>>>> readily admit that I am still not good with it.  The only other thing I 
>>>> can think of is the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what it is 
>>>> responding to.  Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.
>>>> 
>>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Margaret
>>>> 
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Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-08-16 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Actually, I am feeling sure that with the SC 2020 you cannot tell Siri to stop 
while it is active unless you’re using AirPod pros. This is because the 
processing is not powerful enough to separate voice input from the sound 
output. Certainly my wife’s iPhone 11 can do this though.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 16, 2023, at 2:15 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you can tell Siri "Stop" if music is playing and it will stop it and 
> also "play" will start it playing again.
> This also works fo rme if I am using Audible to listen to a book, it seems 
> that the "play" and "stop" commands work with whatever was playing last.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 8:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020
> 
> Margaret, I hope you're still on this list. But yes, a two finger double tap 
> wall stop and start the music. And no, there is no verbal command. I don't 
> believe. I've never tried asking Siri to stop the music, but that would be 
> something that you could ask her.
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
>> 
>> That did the trick, Joseph.  Thank you.  The screen to put in my pass code 
>> came up with the phone talking and phone life is good again.
>> 
>> For future reference, was my memory correct that a two finger double tap if 
>> done correctly should stop the music playing?  Is there a verbal command to 
>> stop music playing?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/2/2023 8:45 AM, joseph hudson wrote:
>>> A three finger double tap will turn on speech. If you're hearing the 
>>> clicking noises, it's only because speech is turned off.
>>>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Margaret Thomas  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, All:
>>>> 
>>>> I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working 
>>>> fine before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what 
>>>> Siri would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started 
>>>> playing.  I do virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger 
>>>> double tap would turn it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture 
>>>> correctly, but it didn't stop the music.  More tries with no success. 
>>>> Tried saying different versions of stop with no luck.  At one point tried 
>>>> turning off the phone with no joy.  Moved the mute button with no luck.  
>>>> Saying cancel music stopped the music, but now, it says VoiceOver is 
>>>> turned on; that it is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  When I move my 
>>>> finger around the screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri to go to 
>>>> messages, for example, it says you must unlock the phone first.  The home 
>>>> button won't budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up phone and I 
>>>> readily admit that I am still not good with it.  The only other thing I 
>>>> can think of is the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what it is 
>>>> responding to.  Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.
>>>> 
>>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Margaret
>>>> 
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RE: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-08-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, you can tell Siri "Stop" if music is playing and it will stop it and also 
"play" will start it playing again. 
This also works fo rme if I am using Audible to listen to a book, it seems that 
the "play" and "stop" commands work with whatever was playing last.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

Margaret, I hope you're still on this list. But yes, a two finger double tap 
wall stop and start the music. And no, there is no verbal command. I don't 
believe. I've never tried asking Siri to stop the music, but that would be 
something that you could ask her.

> On Jun 2, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> That did the trick, Joseph.  Thank you.  The screen to put in my pass code 
> came up with the phone talking and phone life is good again.
> 
> For future reference, was my memory correct that a two finger double tap if 
> done correctly should stop the music playing?  Is there a verbal command to 
> stop music playing?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> On 6/2/2023 8:45 AM, joseph hudson wrote:
>> A three finger double tap will turn on speech. If you're hearing the 
>> clicking noises, it's only because speech is turned off.
>>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, All:
>>> 
>>> I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working 
>>> fine before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what 
>>> Siri would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started 
>>> playing.  I do virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger double 
>>> tap would turn it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture correctly, 
>>> but it didn't stop the music.  More tries with no success. Tried saying 
>>> different versions of stop with no luck.  At one point tried turning off 
>>> the phone with no joy.  Moved the mute button with no luck.  Saying cancel 
>>> music stopped the music, but now, it says VoiceOver is turned on; that it 
>>> is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  When I move my finger around the 
>>> screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri to go to messages, for 
>>> example, it says you must unlock the phone first.  The home button won't 
>>> budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up phone and I readily admit 
>>> that I am still not good with it.  The only other thing I can think of is 
>>> the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what it is responding to.  
>>> Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.
>>> 
>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
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Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-08-15 Thread joseph hudson
Margaret, I hope you're still on this list. But yes, a two finger double tap 
wall stop and start the music. And no, there is no verbal command. I don't 
believe. I've never tried asking Siri to stop the music, but that would be 
something that you could ask her.

> On Jun 2, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> That did the trick, Joseph.  Thank you.  The screen to put in my pass code 
> came up with the phone talking and phone life is good again.
> 
> For future reference, was my memory correct that a two finger double tap if 
> done correctly should stop the music playing?  Is there a verbal command to 
> stop music playing?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> On 6/2/2023 8:45 AM, joseph hudson wrote:
>> A three finger double tap will turn on speech. If you're hearing the 
>> clicking noises, it's only because speech is turned off.
>>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, All:
>>> 
>>> I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working 
>>> fine before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what 
>>> Siri would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started 
>>> playing.  I do virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger double 
>>> tap would turn it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture correctly, 
>>> but it didn't stop the music.  More tries with no success. Tried saying 
>>> different versions of stop with no luck.  At one point tried turning off 
>>> the phone with no joy.  Moved the mute button with no luck.  Saying cancel 
>>> music stopped the music, but now, it says VoiceOver is turned on; that it 
>>> is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  When I move my finger around the 
>>> screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri to go to messages, for 
>>> example, it says you must unlock the phone first.  The home button won't 
>>> budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up phone and I readily admit 
>>> that I am still not good with it.  The only other thing I can think of is 
>>> the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what it is responding to.  
>>> Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.
>>> 
>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Margaret
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Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-06-03 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Well, a two finger double tap will definitely stop music if you are in the 
music app and VoiceOver is on. But incoming calls and facebook along with some 
other apps will cause that gesture to do something else. 
In any case, it sounds like you figured it out. 


> On Jun 2, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> That did the trick, Joseph.  Thank you.  The screen to put in my pass code 
> came up with the phone talking and phone life is good again.
> 
> For future reference, was my memory correct that a two finger double tap if 
> done correctly should stop the music playing?  Is there a verbal command to 
> stop music playing?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
> On 6/2/2023 8:45 AM, joseph hudson wrote:
>> A three finger double tap will turn on speech. If you're hearing the 
>> clicking noises, it's only because speech is turned off.
>>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, All:
>>> 
>>> I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working 
>>> fine before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what 
>>> Siri would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started 
>>> playing.  I do virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger double 
>>> tap would turn it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture correctly, 
>>> but it didn't stop the music.  More tries with no success. Tried saying 
>>> different versions of stop with no luck.  At one point tried turning off 
>>> the phone with no joy.  Moved the mute button with no luck.  Saying cancel 
>>> music stopped the music, but now, it says VoiceOver is turned on; that it 
>>> is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  When I move my finger around the 
>>> screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri to go to messages, for 
>>> example, it says you must unlock the phone first.  The home button won't 
>>> budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up phone and I readily admit 
>>> that I am still not good with it.  The only other thing I can think of is 
>>> the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what it is responding to.  
>>> Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.
>>> 
>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
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Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-06-02 Thread Robert Doc Wright

have you tried asking siri to reboot this device?
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Hi, All:

I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working 
fine before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what 
Siri would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started 
playing.  I do virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger 
double tap would turn it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture 
correctly, but it didn't stop the music.  More tries with no success. 
Tried saying different versions of stop with no luck.  At one point tried 
turning off the phone with no joy.  Moved the mute button with no luck. 
Saying cancel music stopped the music, but now, it says VoiceOver is 
turned on; that it is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  When I move my 
finger around the screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri to go to 
messages, for example, it says you must unlock the phone first. The home 
button won't budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up phone and I 
readily admit that I am still not good with it.  The only other thing I 
can think of is the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what it is 
responding to.  Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.


Any help is much appreciated.

Margaret

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Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-06-02 Thread Margaret Thomas
That did the trick, Joseph.  Thank you.  The screen to put in my pass 
code came up with the phone talking and phone life is good again.


For future reference, was my memory correct that a two finger double tap 
if done correctly should stop the music playing?  Is there a verbal 
command to stop music playing?


Thanks,

Margaret


On 6/2/2023 8:45 AM, joseph hudson wrote:

A three finger double tap will turn on speech. If you're hearing the clicking 
noises, it's only because speech is turned off.


On Jun 2, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:

Hi, All:

I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working fine 
before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what Siri would 
say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started playing.  I do 
virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger double tap would turn it 
off.  I may not have been doing the gesture correctly, but it didn't stop the 
music.  More tries with no success. Tried saying different versions of stop 
with no luck.  At one point tried turning off the phone with no joy.  Moved the 
mute button with no luck.  Saying cancel music stopped the music, but now, it 
says VoiceOver is turned on; that it is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  
When I move my finger around the screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri 
to go to messages, for example, it says you must unlock the phone first.  The 
home button won't budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up phone and I 
readily admit that I am still not good with it.  The only other thing I can 
think of is the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what it is responding to. 
 Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.

Any help is much appreciated.

Margaret

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Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-06-02 Thread Kimberly
First the mute button doesn't have any effect on voiceover, so don't worry 
about that. What I think must have happened is that your voiceover volume got 
turned all the way down. As for why the home button won't press, I have no clue 
about that. Maybe a call to apple accessibility? 

Sorry I can't be more helpful. Hope you get it sorted out. 

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
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be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

> On Jun 2, 2023, at 8:43 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working fine 
> before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what Siri 
> would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started playing.  I do 
> virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger double tap would turn 
> it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture correctly, but it didn't stop 
> the music.  More tries with no success. Tried saying different versions of 
> stop with no luck.  At one point tried turning off the phone with no joy.  
> Moved the mute button with no luck.  Saying cancel music stopped the music, 
> but now, it says VoiceOver is turned on; that it is unmuted but that nothing 
> is playing.  When I move my finger around the screen I hear clicking noises.  
> If I ask Siri to go to messages, for example, it says you must unlock the 
> phone first.  The home button won't budge.  I have it charging.  This is my 
> back up phone and I readily admit that I am still not good with it.  The only 
> other thing I can think of is the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what 
> it is responding to.  Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.
> 
> Any help is much appreciated.
> 
> Margaret
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Re: Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-06-02 Thread joseph hudson
A three finger double tap will turn on speech. If you're hearing the clicking 
noises, it's only because speech is turned off.

> On Jun 2, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working fine 
> before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what Siri 
> would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started playing.  I do 
> virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger double tap would turn 
> it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture correctly, but it didn't stop 
> the music.  More tries with no success. Tried saying different versions of 
> stop with no luck.  At one point tried turning off the phone with no joy.  
> Moved the mute button with no luck.  Saying cancel music stopped the music, 
> but now, it says VoiceOver is turned on; that it is unmuted but that nothing 
> is playing.  When I move my finger around the screen I hear clicking noises.  
> If I ask Siri to go to messages, for example, it says you must unlock the 
> phone first.  The home button won't budge.  I have it charging.  This is my 
> back up phone and I readily admit that I am still not good with it.  The only 
> other thing I can think of is the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose what 
> it is responding to.  Sighted assistance is not available.  It's IOS 16.4.1.
> 
> Any help is much appreciated.
> 
> Margaret
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Can't Unlock SE 2020

2023-06-02 Thread Margaret Thomas

Hi, All:

I hope someone can help me unlock my iPhone 2020.  The phone was working 
fine before the trouble started.  I got into this mess by wondering what 
Siri would say if I said should I bring my umbrella.  Music started 
playing.  I do virtually nothing with music and thought a two finger 
double tap would turn it off.  I may not have been doing the gesture 
correctly, but it didn't stop the music.  More tries with no success. 
Tried saying different versions of stop with no luck.  At one point 
tried turning off the phone with no joy.  Moved the mute button with no 
luck.  Saying cancel music stopped the music, but now, it says VoiceOver 
is turned on; that it is unmuted but that nothing is playing.  When I 
move my finger around the screen I hear clicking noises.  If I ask Siri 
to go to messages, for example, it says you must unlock the phone first. 
 The home button won't budge.  I have it charging.  This is my back up 
phone and I readily admit that I am still not good with it.  The only 
other thing I can think of is the mute button, but I'm afraid I'll lose 
what it is responding to.  Sighted assistance is not available.  It's 
IOS 16.4.1.


Any help is much appreciated.

Margaret

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