Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
Sorry to be so late in answering. I never put it on the iPhone. I can't say. Sorry. - Original Message - From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:58 PM Subject: RE: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition How easily searchable is the one on the Kindle? Is it the Kindle app on the iPhone? Thanks, Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 5:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition That's a shame. The one in the K1000 cd is very much like it and, as I say, it's the one on the Kindle, at least my wife's. It's actually enjoyable reading if your mind runs that way. - Original Message - From: David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store. It appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the content. Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote: If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email
Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
Ha! I forgot about that option. I think it does come with the OS. I just took a look at it. On my system there is the Apple dictionary and the American Oxford English Dictionary available. I don't remember if both were available by default, or if I had to download one of them. David Justice :) On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:22 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com wrote: Hi, So long as I can use the edit function, I make use of the onboard dictionary, it is very good and VO friendly. I also have an Italian dictionary option, also good! I think I am remembering aright, this came with the ios and didn't cost anything extra. Sandy. Sent from my iPhone On 1 Aug 2015, at 17:50, David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com wrote: Mary, The interesting thing about the Concise Oxford dictionary is that you can manage to get the definition. Once you have typed in a word the definition is displayed on the screen. Fine for sighted people, not so good for VoiceOver users as I said. However, there is a more button. If you press that and then select Share, then you can select message or mail and the definition will be readable in that app. Once you have read it, then you cancel out and return to the dictionary. Or, instead of choosing one of those apps, you could select copy and then paste the definition into notes or whatever. Yeah I know, a pain to go through, especially for a short definition. Oh yes, the cost for the app was about 12 or 13 dollars. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I hope that little try out didn't set you back too much money, David. Isn't it frustrating when you know they could make something accessible, and they just don't, and they are not a one-man or one woman development shop. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:18 PM, David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store. It appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the content. Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote: If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
Hi, So long as I can use the edit function, I make use of the onboard dictionary, it is very good and VO friendly. I also have an Italian dictionary option, also good! I think I am remembering aright, this came with the ios and didn't cost anything extra. Sandy. Sent from my iPhone On 1 Aug 2015, at 17:50, David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com wrote: Mary, The interesting thing about the Concise Oxford dictionary is that you can manage to get the definition. Once you have typed in a word the definition is displayed on the screen. Fine for sighted people, not so good for VoiceOver users as I said. However, there is a more button. If you press that and then select Share, then you can select message or mail and the definition will be readable in that app. Once you have read it, then you cancel out and return to the dictionary. Or, instead of choosing one of those apps, you could select copy and then paste the definition into notes or whatever. Yeah I know, a pain to go through, especially for a short definition. Oh yes, the cost for the app was about 12 or 13 dollars. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I hope that little try out didn't set you back too much money, David. Isn't it frustrating when you know they could make something accessible, and they just don't, and they are not a one-man or one woman development shop. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:18 PM, David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store. It appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the content. Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote: If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members
Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
That's a shame. The one in the K1000 cd is very much like it and, as I say, it's the one on the Kindle, at least my wife's. It's actually enjoyable reading if your mind runs that way. - Original Message - From: David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store. It appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the content. Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote: If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com
RE: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
How easily searchable is the one on the Kindle? Is it the Kindle app on the iPhone? Thanks, Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 5:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition That's a shame. The one in the K1000 cd is very much like it and, as I say, it's the one on the Kindle, at least my wife's. It's actually enjoyable reading if your mind runs that way. - Original Message - From: David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store. It appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the content. Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote: If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members
Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
Mary, The interesting thing about the Concise Oxford dictionary is that you can manage to get the definition. Once you have typed in a word the definition is displayed on the screen. Fine for sighted people, not so good for VoiceOver users as I said. However, there is a more button. If you press that and then select Share, then you can select message or mail and the definition will be readable in that app. Once you have read it, then you cancel out and return to the dictionary. Or, instead of choosing one of those apps, you could select copy and then paste the definition into notes or whatever. Yeah I know, a pain to go through, especially for a short definition. Oh yes, the cost for the app was about 12 or 13 dollars. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I hope that little try out didn't set you back too much money, David. Isn't it frustrating when you know they could make something accessible, and they just don't, and they are not a one-man or one woman development shop. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:18 PM, David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store. It appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the content. Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote: If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
Hi David, Well, I think I rather pay more for it fully accessible dictionary then do that nonsense that you have to go through with the oxford concise. Perhaps some emails to the developers will result in a voiceover friendly change for a new version. Maybe get the folks at Apple is interested. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:50 AM, David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com wrote: Mary, The interesting thing about the Concise Oxford dictionary is that you can manage to get the definition. Once you have typed in a word the definition is displayed on the screen. Fine for sighted people, not so good for VoiceOver users as I said. However, there is a more button. If you press that and then select Share, then you can select message or mail and the definition will be readable in that app. Once you have read it, then you cancel out and return to the dictionary. Or, instead of choosing one of those apps, you could select copy and then paste the definition into notes or whatever. Yeah I know, a pain to go through, especially for a short definition. Oh yes, the cost for the app was about 12 or 13 dollars. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I hope that little try out didn't set you back too much money, David. Isn't it frustrating when you know they could make something accessible, and they just don't, and they are not a one-man or one woman development shop. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:18 PM, David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store. It appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the content. Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote: If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information
RE: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
There is the Oxford Dictionary Quick Search that requires an internet connection that is pretty accessible and is free. It has ads and if the definition is really long you can't do the usual three finger swipe up to scroll through. You can get beyond that by flicking right, but the visual definition on the screen doesn't change, but VoiceOver does read stuff not visible on the screen. There doesn't seem to be a share option with that one. I still like the dictionary.com app and paying a little to get rid of ads etc. If there was a full OED option that was accessible, I'd be really tempted. I've not found anything. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Justice Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 9:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition Mary, The interesting thing about the Concise Oxford dictionary is that you can manage to get the definition. Once you have typed in a word the definition is displayed on the screen. Fine for sighted people, not so good for VoiceOver users as I said. However, there is a more button. If you press that and then select Share, then you can select message or mail and the definition will be readable in that app. Once you have read it, then you cancel out and return to the dictionary. Or, instead of choosing one of those apps, you could select copy and then paste the definition into notes or whatever. Yeah I know, a pain to go through, especially for a short definition. Oh yes, the cost for the app was about 12 or 13 dollars. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I hope that little try out didn't set you back too much money, David. Isn't it frustrating when you know they could make something accessible, and they just don't, and they are not a one-man or one woman development shop. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:18 PM, David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store. It appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the content. Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote: If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
Richard, your points are ones we should all keep in mind. Over the last 20 years, access to information of all kinds has become easier and a lot cheaper, not to mention the volume of information has gone up tremendously. During the KNFB Reader launch, when people were proclaiming $100 to be completely outrageous, someone posted a list of the various scanning/text recognition systems through the years, from the first Kurzweil reader that was about the size of a washing machine and cost maybe $30,000, to the various PC-based solutions costing a couple thousand, and now, to the current app that costs $100 and can work better than any previous unit on a lowly pocket-sized iPod touch. We now have in a $400 package that fits in a pocket a much faster and more accurate solution than just a few years ago. This trend will only continue! I wish I had that tweet containing the various years and prices; it really made the point quite well. At 11:50 PM 7/30/2015, you wrote: While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- Learn to meditate and train your brain with Muse, the first lab-grade EEG biofeedback headband for home use! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a members post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
To put it another way... you now have a dictionary, probably a full library, in your pocket. fifteen or twenty years ago you'd be scanning print versions of a lot of that, or fast-forwarding through endless cassette tapes, or looking for something in volume 13 of a Braille version, etc. Ok, shutting up now as I feel quite old. LOL --- Learn to meditate and train your brain with Muse, the first lab-grade EEG biofeedback headband for home use! -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a members post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
Is there an OED app? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:50 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store. It appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the content. Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote: If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
I hope that little try out didn't set you back too much money, David. Isn't it frustrating when you know they could make something accessible, and they just don't, and they are not a one-man or one woman development shop. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:18 PM, David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried out the Concise Oxford dictionary from the App Store. It appears that I can do pretty much everything with it except read the content. Reminds me of earlier versions of the Kindle app in which VoiceOver users could do everything except read books. David Justice :) On Jul 31, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote: If it were possible I'd try to get the Oxford Concise. It's the one available for the Kindle, and a variant of it is the Oxford you can get from Kurzweil. Just my $.02. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner richardturne...@outlook.com To: ViPone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:50 PM Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
RE: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
Good information. If you opt for this paid version, just be sure to get AHD5. Again, I understand the app maker took steps to make this version accessible. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:50 PM To: ViPone list Subject: Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Dictionary app, American heritage 5th edition
While it was Richard Petty who recommended it, I did a little research because of Mark's question about why it costs so much. The hard cover print edition is $41.83 on Amazon. Its shipping weight is 7.5 pounds. It is 2112 pages. This app says it contains everything that is in the print edition. About 20 years ago, Oxford English Dictionary 2nd edition that was 21 print volumes, was about $900 in print, became available for $130 on a CD Rom. Granted the OED 2nd edition had over six hundred thousand words, the cost of dictionaries have dropped dramatically. What you are paying for is the linguistic expertees that goes into the research on the history and usage of the words. According to Mr. Petty, the American Heritage app is quite accessible with VoiceOver. Just my two cents worth. Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
