RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[bentleyj1952]

I don't want to tie up this list with repetitive thank you's but it was 
extremely helpful for me to be able to send text messages to family and friends 
who use Android phones.  Getting that message failure notice was getting old.

I won't post any more on this particular subject unless some one else needs 
help with the same problem.

This is a good list.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

Richard or Sieghard or someone on this list told me about it a whie back. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

Enabling send as sms fixed the problem.

 

I wonder why Apple doesn’t have this turned on by default.

 

I’m sure glad it is now working right.

 

Many thanks for the directions.

 

James B

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Isaac 
Hebert
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by 
saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover 
that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and 
just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

Richard or Sieghard or someone on this list told me about it a whie back. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

Enabling send as sms fixed the problem.

 

I wonder why Apple doesn’t have this turned on by default.

 

I’m sure glad it is now working right.

 

Many thanks for the directions.

 

James B

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Isaac 
Hebert
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by 
saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover 
that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and 
just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

My Mom and one of my sisters has an android phone and I have never had
any trouble sending them text messages.  I'm with Verizon, and it is
unlimited text messages which is nice.

On 7/7/20, Esther  wrote:
> gotcha! Thanks all of you. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> If you double-tap SMS, it will turn on; it is a toggle. It won't prevent
>> your i-messages, only, as Richard says, will enable you to text to other
>> phones.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Esther
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye
>> Message and a text message meant for an Android phone
>>
>> hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging
>> is turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear
>> after 30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help.
>> Esther
>>
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android
>> user, go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.
>>
>>So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device
>> users.
>>
>>If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still
>> turn on send as MMS.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Richard
>>
>>"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
>> not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>> Edward Herbert
>>
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Esther
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye
>> Message and a text message meant for an Android phone
>>
>>
>>
>>hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I
>> just want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
>>
>>Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert
>> mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>>Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will
>> allow messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this
>> settings, messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double
>> tap  to turn on this setting.
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>>   wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>>I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android
>> phone by saying to Ciri,
>>“send text to Jessica’s mobil.
>>
>>
>>
>>Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I
>> discover that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
>>
>>
>>
>>I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last
>> name, and just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
>>
>>
>>
>>Can any one make a suggestion?
>>
>>
>>
>>Many thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>>James B
>>
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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[bentleyj1952]

Hi,

I do now.  And, its working fine for when I want to send my friend with an 
Android phone a text.

I'm glad to get this problem straightened out.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

James, yhou do have SMS turned on, don't you? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a 
text message meant for an Android phone

Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri, “send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Esther]

gotcha! Thanks all of you. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If you double-tap SMS, it will turn on; it is a toggle. It won't prevent 
> your i-messages, only, as Richard says, will enable you to text to other 
> phones. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
> and a text message meant for an Android phone
> 
> hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
> turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
> 30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther
> 
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android 
> user, go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.
> 
>So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.
> 
>If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still turn 
> on send as MMS.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>Richard
> 
>"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Esther
>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye 
> Message and a text message meant for an Android phone
> 
> 
> 
>hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just 
> want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
> 
>Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>
>
>
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert   > wrote:
> 
>Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
> messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
> messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
> on this setting.   
> 
>HTH
> 
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
>
>
>
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
>   wrote:
> 
>
> 
>Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
>I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone 
> by saying to Ciri, 
>“send text to Jessica’s mobil.
> 
> 
> 
>Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I 
> discover that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
> 
> 
> 
>I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, 
> and just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
> 
> 
> 
>Can any one make a suggestion?
> 
> 
> 
>Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
>James B
> 
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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Esther]

oh, I didn't know that SMS had more diversity. Thank you for the correction! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What do yhou mean, regular messages, Esther? SMS simply enables texts more 
> diversity, as I understand it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
> and a text message meant for an Android phone
> 
> hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just 
> want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
> 
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
> messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
> messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
> on this setting.   
>HTH
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
>I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by 
> saying to Ciri, 
>“send text to Jessica’s mobil.
> 
> 
> 
>Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover 
> that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
> 
> 
> 
>I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and 
> just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
> 
> 
> 
>Can any one make a suggestion?
> 
> 
> 
>Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
>James B
> 
>
> 
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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Esther]

hi, I don't have problems with Siri at all. It's just the SMS problem. Siri is 
great! Thank you. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I have struggled with this problem and had some luck with saying Siri, Send 
> text message to 919-xxx, and mostly it gets there to my friend with an 
> Android. 
> 
> I have another friend who had an iPhone, never could work with the thing, got 
> some trade off the thing and bought a Kyocera Dura. So I say, Siri send to 
> friend's iPhone, and away it goes! Bigger than life! She gets it. I just 
> never took iPhone off her number label. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Isaac Hebert
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
> and a text message meant for an Android phone
> 
> Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
> messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
> messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
> on this setting.   
> HTH
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
>I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by 
> saying to Ciri, 
>“send text to Jessica’s mobil.
> 
> 
> 
>Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that 
> Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
> 
> 
> 
>I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just 
> her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
> 
> 
> 
>Can any one make a suggestion?
> 
> 
> 
>Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
>James B
> 
>
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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[bentleyj1952]

Enabling send as sms fixed the problem.

 

I wonder why Apple doesn’t have this turned on by default.

 

I’m sure glad it is now working right.

 

Many thanks for the directions.

 

James B

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Isaac 
Hebert
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

James, yhou do have SMS turned on, don't you? 

-Original Message-
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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a 
text message meant for an Android phone

Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri, “send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

Mine with AT is unlimited. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

Yes, iMessages are unique to Apple, and so logically, SMS is regular text 
messages as it has been around since texting began.

That is a good example of how influential Apple has become.

 

Personally, since not everyone owns Apple products, I’d never turn off SMS, but 
there are situations where SMS cost people as much as 25¢ Per text, which can 
get very pricy fast as much as people are texting these days.

I’m glad my provider doesn’t charge for texting.  Some still do.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

I know this doesn’t help, but I just found it interesting that someone thinks 
of iMsgs as regular text messages, as opposed to SMS which are ubiquitous and 
have been around longer then Apple’s proprietary messaging service.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android 
user, go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.

So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.

If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still 
turn on send as MMS.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting 
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye 
Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I 
just want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert 
mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms 
will allow messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this 
settings, messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  
to turn on this setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an 
Android phone by saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I 
look, I discover that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and 
last name, and just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

  

RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

If you double-tap SMS, it will turn on; it is a toggle. It won't prevent your 
i-messages, only, as Richard says, will enable you to text to other phones. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



 

If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android 
user, go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.

So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.

If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still 
turn on send as MMS.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting 
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye 
Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I 
just want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert 
mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms 
will allow messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this 
settings, messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  
to turn on this setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an 
Android phone by saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I 
look, I discover that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and 
last name, and just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

What do yhou mean, regular messages, Esther? SMS simply enables texts more 
diversity, as I understand it. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just want 
to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert  
wrote:




Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
on this setting.   
HTH


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:





Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android 
phone by saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I 
discover that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last 
name, and just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B



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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

I have struggled with this problem and had some luck with saying Siri, Send 
text message to 919-xxx, and mostly it gets there to my friend with an 
Android. 

I have another friend who had an iPhone, never could work with the thing, got 
some trade off the thing and bought a Kyocera Dura. So I say, Siri send to 
friend's iPhone, and away it goes! Bigger than life! She gets it. I just never 
took iPhone off her number label. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Isaac Hebert
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   
HTH


Sent from my iPhone


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Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by 
saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover 
that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and 
just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B



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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Richard Turner]

Yes, iMessages are unique to Apple, and so logically, SMS is regular text 
messages as it has been around since texting began.
That is a good example of how influential Apple has become.

Personally, since not everyone owns Apple products, I’d never turn off SMS, but 
there are situations where SMS cost people as much as 25¢ Per text, which can 
get very pricy fast as much as people are texting these days.
I’m glad my provider doesn’t charge for texting.  Some still do.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

I know this doesn’t help, but I just found it interesting that someone thinks 
of iMsgs as regular text messages, as opposed to SMS which are ubiquitous and 
have been around longer then Apple’s proprietary messaging service.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android user, 
go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.
So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.
If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still turn on 
send as MMS.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just want 
to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert 
mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.
HTH
Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri,
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

Can any one make a suggestion?

Many thanks,

James B
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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[chaltain]

I know this doesn’t help, but I just found it interesting that someone thinks 
of iMsgs as regular text messages, as opposed to SMS which are ubiquitous and 
have been around longer then Apple’s proprietary messaging service.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android user, 
go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.

So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.

If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still turn on 
send as MMS.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just want 
to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!






On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone






On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Esther]

hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android user, 
> go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.
> So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.
> If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still turn on 
> send as MMS.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
> and a text message meant for an Android phone
>  
> hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just 
> want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
> On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
> messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
> messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
> on this setting.   
> HTH
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying 
> to Ciri, 
> “send text to Jessica’s mobil.
>  
> Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that 
> Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
>  
> I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just 
> her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
>  
> Can any one make a suggestion?
>  
> Many thanks,
>  
> James B
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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Richard Turner]

If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android user, 
go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.
So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.
If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still turn on 
send as MMS.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just want 
to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert 
mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.
HTH
Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri,
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

Can any one make a suggestion?

Many thanks,

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[Esther]

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just want 
to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
> messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
> messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
> on this setting.   
> HTH
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying 
>> to Ciri, 
>> “send text to Jessica’s mobil.
>>  
>> Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that 
>> Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
>>  
>> I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just 
>> her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
>>  
>> Can any one make a suggestion?
>>  
>> Many thanks,
>>  
>> James B
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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Isaac Hebert]

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   
HTH

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> On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying 
> to Ciri, 
> “send text to Jessica’s mobil.
>  
> Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that 
> Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
>  
> I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just 
> her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
>  
> Can any one make a suggestion?
>  
> Many thanks,
>  
> James B
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Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying
to Ciri, 
"send text to Jessica's mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that
Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I've tried using the lady's first name.  Her first and last name, and just
her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I'm out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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