RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Indeed. It was very distracting. Glad to know it was just a setting. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Thanks for that "fix" which is not really a fix but simply a setting which you 
adjust to your liking.

When a new version of iOS comes out it is always a good idea to set aside some 
time and go through all the items in Voiceover settings to see what might be 
new and how changing certain settings make things better for you or not.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Amy 
Ruell
Sent: October 7, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Hi Penny,

Go to settings, accessibility, vision/voice over, audio, sounds and haptics, no 
item discovered, and turn haptic off.

That should do it.

Amy

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Penny Reeder
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Is there a fix on the “haptic on no items” thing? I didn’t know what to call 
it, but i do know it’s driving me crazy! Thanks for Qany advice! Penny

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Oct 7, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Robin Frost mailto:robin...@fastmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard and all,

Thanks for replying it's greatly appreciated.  I tried that and even tried 
resetting all settings which brought its own fun and didn't impact the 
situation for long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it seems 
that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll take it for as long as 
it lasts.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting. 

Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and see if it works.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

 

On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin Frost   
 wrote:

 

Hi,

I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 
is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another device 
running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on 
the horizon. One can hope anyway.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com  
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Penny Reeder]

Amy, Thank you so much!

What a relief!
Penny

On 10/7/21, Robin Frost  wrote:
> Hi Larry and all,
>
> Yes that would fix it for me temporarily but then it'd stop working again.
> However, as I said it's been playing nice since the arrival of iOS15.0.1
> here anyway.
>
> Take good care.
>
> Robin
>
>
>
> On 10/4/2021 6:19 AM, Larry Smith wrote:
>>
>> If you turn the device off and back on again,it will fix that problem.
>> That’s what worked for me and two others who was experiencing that issue.
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this
>>> already pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15
>>> through to 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is
>>> working on another device running a beta version so hopefully it's not
>>> device specific and a fix is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
>>>
>>> Take good care.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

 My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about
 bugs others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf
 Of Maria Campbell
 Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a
 long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


 Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find
 annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was
 terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't
 a biggy, but not a problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from
 hey Siri might be a big problem to people with typing issues.  Please
 stop minimizing the problems of some just because they don't affect you.



 Maria Campbell

 lucky1i...@gmail.com



 All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
 nothing.

 --Edmund Burke

 On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>
> I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In
> addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact
> you against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long
> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs
> people are dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is
> a mess" and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved"
> etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current
> phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying
> something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is
> not a bug but a new feature and there will always be things maybe one
> would wish had stayed as it was.
>
> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes
> say the name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the
> fix I read about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion
> and turn of Reduce Motion.
> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd
> like to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover
> should read the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a
> fix/work-around for now especially if it doesn't have any other
> consequences.
>
> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning
> prior to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard
> about is the one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through
> your cards/passes. I am very curious to hear how many people have this
> problem. As I said above, I use an iPhone 11 and this has never
> happened to me and I tried it also by turning on Voiceover on my wife's
> iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>
> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>
> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces
> certain things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of
> the Canadian province where I live:
>
>
> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>
>
>
> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>
>
>
> It's almost like 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi Larry and all,
Yes that would fix it for me
temporarily but then it'd stop working again. However, as I said
it's been playing nice since the arrival of iOS15.0.1 here
anyway.
Take good care.
Robin

  


On 10/4/2021 6:19 AM, Larry Smith
  wrote:


  
  If you turn the device off and back on again,it will fix that
  problem. That’s what worked for me and two others who was
  experiencing that issue.
  

  
On Oct 3, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Robin Frost 
  wrote:


  
  Hi,
  I might be late to the
party here so if someone else mentioned this already
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with
iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my
13 Pro Max but is working on another device running a
beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a
fix is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
  Take good care.
  Robin
  
  
  On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard
Weitzel wrote:
  
  

  My post pointed out
my experience and apart from that I was asking about
bugs others experience, I am not trying to minimize
anything.
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: October
2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I
find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy
upgrades in a long time, what are the more
significant bugs you still experience?

  
   
  Obviously, one size does not fit all. 
Many of us did in fact find annoying bugs in 15. 
That annoying haptic on no items discovered was
terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked
phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a problem
before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri
might be a big problem to people with typing
issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of some
just because they don't affect you.
   
  Maria Campbell
  lucky1i...@gmail.com
   
  All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
  --Edmund Burke
  
On
  10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
  
  

  I
can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve
encountered in IOS 15. In addition, you also
have to weigh how much a particular bug may
impact you against any new features you want to
take advantage of in IOS 15.
   
  
--
Christopher
  (AKA CJ)
Chaltain
  at Outlook
  
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday,
October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I
find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy
upgrades in a long time, what are the more
significant bugs you still experience?

  
   
  The
subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear
what major bugs people are dealing with because
I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess"
and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have
been resolved" etc.
  I
would encourage people also mention what device
they use, my current phone is an iPhone 11.
Please furthermore be specific instead of saying
 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi,
I actually thought this was a new
feature rather than a bug but I could be wrong. Interestingly
however, it doesn't always happen. There seems to be no
discernible pattern to when audio messages give you the
attachment designation and then give you the seemingly new audio
listening screen featuring a play button and a time scrubber
element which I find rather helpful for reviewing such messages.
As I said sometimes it appears and sometimes the audio messages
simply play with a double tap on them and I haven't a clue as to
what governs this. I've also noticed that when either recording
or listening to one of these messages if you have auto lock set
to a timed interval such as 5 minutes in my case whether
recording an audio message or listening it's as if the device
doesn't recognize that you're doing something and it'll lock
itself thus either ending your recording rather unceremoniously
or stopping your playback. It's very strange indeed.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/4/2021 2:32 PM, Feliciano Godoy
  wrote:


  
  I am using iPhone 11 with iOS 15.0.1
  since iOS 15, when sending an audio message that is over
three minutes the receiver is getting it as an audio file
attachment rather than an iMessage audio message

The interesting part is that it is displaying as
  if it were to be sent as an iMessage audio message. The send
  via SMS When Internet is not available setting is turned off
  on my settings/messages.


As a voiceover screen reader user, I have
  reported this to Apple Accessibility. They were not able to
  replicate the issue, but we are working together as they are
  asking me several questions. I encourage everyone that is
  experiencI encourage everyone that is experiencing this issue
  to report to Apple. 
Feliciano
  For tech tips and updates: 
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world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs 


  On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard
Weitzel  wrote:

  


  




  The subject sort of says it. I am
curious to hear what major bugs people are dealing with
because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess"
and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been
resolved" etc.
  I would encourage people also mention
what device they use, my current phone is an iPhone 11.
Please furthermore be specific instead of saying
something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since
that of course is not a bug but a new feature and there
will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as
it was.
   
  Also, before you mention the issue
where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the name of an app
in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I
read about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility
> Motion and turn of Reduce Motion.
  If somebody knows of a good reason
why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to hear it and
while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should
read the app names even with this turned on, turning it
off is a fix/work-around for now especially if it
doesn't have any other consequences.
   
  Another issue which was mentioned
when Applevis released their warning prior to the iOS 15
release about the bugs they experienced or heard about
is the one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick
through your cards/passes. I am very curious to hear how
many people have this problem. As I said above, I use an
iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried
it also by turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11
Pro and it also works fine.
   
  Next is the share sheet, once again
no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently some people
say they are having problems.
   
  Lastly, one problem I do come across
is that Voiceover mispronounces certain things, here are
two sample phrases which contain the 

RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks for that "fix" which is not really a fix but simply a setting which you 
adjust to your liking.
When a new version of iOS comes out it is always a good idea to set aside some 
time and go through all the items in Voiceover settings to see what might be 
new and how changing certain settings make things better for you or not.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
Sent: October 7, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Hi Penny,
Go to settings, accessibility, vision/voice over, audio, sounds and haptics, no 
item discovered, and turn haptic off.
That should do it.
Amy


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Is there a fix on the “haptic on no items” thing? I didn’t know what to call 
it, but i do know it’s driving me crazy! Thanks for Qany advice! Penny
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Robin Frost 
mailto:robin...@fastmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Richard and all,

Thanks for replying it's greatly appreciated.  I tried that and even tried 
resetting all settings which brought its own fun and didn't impact the 
situation for long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it seems 
that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll take it for as long as 
it lasts.

Take good care.

Robin


On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting.
Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and see if it works.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin Frost 
 wrote:


Hi,

I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 
is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another device 
running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on 
the horizon. One can hope anyway.

Take good care.

Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings 

RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Amy Ruell]

Hi Penny,

Go to settings, accessibility, vision/voice over, audio, sounds and haptics, no 
item discovered, and turn haptic off.

That should do it.

Amy

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Is there a fix on the “haptic on no items” thing? I didn’t know what to call 
it, but i do know it’s driving me crazy! Thanks for Qany advice! Penny

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 7, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Robin Frost mailto:robin...@fastmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard and all,

Thanks for replying it's greatly appreciated.  I tried that and even tried 
resetting all settings which brought its own fun and didn't impact the 
situation for long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it seems 
that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll take it for as long as 
it lasts.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting. 

Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and see if it works.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)





On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin Frost   
 wrote:

 

Hi,

I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 
is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another device 
running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on 
the horizon. One can hope anyway.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com  
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.

I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

 

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.

If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

 

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Penny Reeder]

Is there a fix on the “haptic on no items” thing? I didn’t know what to call 
it, but i do know it’s driving me crazy! Thanks for Qany advice! Penny

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard and all,
> 
> Thanks for replying it's greatly appreciated.  I tried that and even tried 
> resetting all settings which brought its own fun and didn't impact the 
> situation for long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it 
> seems that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll take it for as 
> long as it lasts.
> 
> Take good care.
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting.
>> Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and see if it 
>> works.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> website:  www.turner42.com
>> 
>> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
>>> pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 
>>> 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another 
>>> device running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a 
>>> fix is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
>>> 
>>> Take good care.
>>> 
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about 
 bugs others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Maria Campbell
 Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
 time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
  
 Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find 
 annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was 
 terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a 
 biggy, but not a problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey 
 Siri might be a big problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop 
 minimizing the problems of some just because they don't affect you.
 
  
 
 Maria Campbell
 lucky1i...@gmail.com
  
 All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
 --Edmund Burke
 On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In 
 addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you 
 against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
  
 --
 Christopher (AKA CJ)
 Chaltain at Outlook
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
 time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
  
 The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people 
 are dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" 
 and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
 I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current 
 phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying 
 something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not 
 a bug but a new feature and there will always be things maybe one would 
 wish had stayed as it was.
  
 Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say 
 the name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I 
 read about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of 
 Reduce Motion.
 If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like 
 to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should 
 read the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a 
 fix/work-around for now especially if it doesn't have any other 
 consequences.
  
 Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning 
 prior to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about 
 is the one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your 
 cards/passes. I am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. 
 As I said above, I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and 
 I tried it also by turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it 
 also works fine.
  
 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi Richard and all,
Thanks for replying it's greatly
appreciated.  I tried that and even tried resetting all settings
which brought its own fun and didn't impact the situation for
long. I.e. it'd work for a while and then quit. However, it
seems that the arrival of 15.0.1 has made things better. I'll
take it for as long as it lasts.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/3/2021 9:17 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting.
  Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and
see if it works.
  


  
  
  Richard
  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are
in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 
    
  
  
  
  
  

  

  website:
   www.turner42.com
  
  
  (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


  On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin
Frost  wrote:

  


  
Hi,
I might be late to the party here so if someone else
  mentioned this already pardon the repetition.  My most
  significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 is tap to
  wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another
  device running a beta version so hopefully it's not device
  specific and a fix is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard
  Weitzel wrote:


  
  
  
My post pointed out my experience
  and apart from that I was asking about bugs others
  experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.
 

  
From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
  Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
  To: 
viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the
  least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the
  more significant bugs you still experience?
  

 
Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did
  in fact find annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying
  haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my hey
  Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a
  biggy, but not a problem before.  And, all the phrases
  removed from hey Siri might be a big problem to people
  with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the
  problems of some just because they don't affect you.
 
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

  On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher
Chaltain wrote:


  
I
  can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve
  encountered in IOS 15. In addition, you also have
  to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you
  against any new features you want to take
  advantage of in IOS 15.
 

  --
  Christopher
(AKA CJ)
  Chaltain
at Outlook

 

  
From:
  
viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17
  PM
  To: 
viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the
  least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are
  the more significant bugs you still
  experience?
  

 
The
  subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what
  

RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Sieghard,  

Since you asked, ever since I updated to iPad 15 on my iPad 10.5, VoiceOver 
will not use Samantha, Enhanced, unless I manually select it after every single 
reboot..

Also, try as I may, I cannot get my iPad Pro to updae to 15.01 either over the 
air or via iTunes.

Strangely enough, I can update other devices in my house, including other 
iPads, some of which are older models, OTR but not this one.

After extensive troubleshooting I know that the issue is with the install of 
iPad 15 but I do not have time to setup the device again.

Now that I think about it, the OTR issue first occured on my iPad Pro with iPad 
14.8.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:

The British Columbia government says it's making progress...

British Columbia Buy and Sell

It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Works fine on my iPhone 11.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: October 3, 2021 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Hi,

I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 
is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another device 
running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on 
the horizon. One can hope anyway.

Take good care.

Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Feliciano Godoy]

I am using iPhone 11 with iOS 15.0.1
since iOS 15, when sending an audio message that is over three minutes the 
receiver is getting it as an audio file attachment rather than an iMessage 
audio message

The interesting part is that it is displaying as if it were to be sent as an 
iMessage audio message. The send via SMS When Internet is not available setting 
is turned off on my settings/messages.

As a voiceover screen reader user, I have reported this to Apple Accessibility. 
They were not able to replicate the issue, but we are working together as they 
are asking me several questions. I encourage everyone that is experiencI 
encourage everyone that is experiencing this issue to report to Apple.
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On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Go into "SettingsAccessibility/Voiceover" and into Verbosity. Within Verbosity, 
flick right until you start seeing Caps change pitch, etc. Try to set up links, 
and "Actions" with sound. In my case, it sounded until I got off a phone call, 
is when the soundthe stopped, having tin change back to voice. Hope this helss 
some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 3 oct 2021, a la(s) 5:21 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel  
> escribió:
> 
> 
> And especially not if it hasn't been reported. This is not something I came 
> across on any of the Beta groups or in the Applevis article so if you have 
> gone through your settings and made absolutely sure that this is a bug then  
> you should report it.
> Maybe you can mention which settings you change exactly so some of us on the 
> group can try to reproduce it.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: October 3, 2021 6:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be 
> one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant 
> bugs you still experience?
>  
> Have you reviewed the settings?
>  
> Many settings have changed or been added.
>  
> I never had a setup like you so I don’t know that it would have changed in 
> such a minor update as 15.0.1.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one 
> of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant 
> bugs you still experience?
>  
> Speaking of probable bugs… before on Ios14, I’d have sounds assigned to 
> links, and to the “Actions Available” wihtin the rotor. Now with iOS15, 
> though I’m still running 15.0), the sounds don’t seem to play as before! Thus 
> having to revert back to Voiceover speaking the word “Link” or “Actions 
> Available”. Am I the only one experiencing this situation? Has it been fixed 
> in iOS15.0.1?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>  
> 
> El 3 oct 2021, a la(s) 8:09 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
>  Yhes, everywhere.
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>  
> 
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
> message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store 
> etc.?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>  
> My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
> before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
> text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...
>  
> But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation 
> screw up yet.
> If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
> British comedy, British food, British accent.
>  
> Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.
>  
> I assume you have reported that to Apple.
>  
> But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
> to sort out.
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone 
> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something 
> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a 
> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed 
> as it was.
>  
> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
> Motion.
> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Larry Smith]

If you turn the device off and back on again,it will fix that problem. That’s 
what worked for me and two others who was experiencing that issue.


> On Oct 3, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
> pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 
> 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another 
> device running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix 
> is on the horizon. One can hope anyway.
> 
> Take good care.
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about 
>> bugs others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>>  On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
>> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>  
>> Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
>> bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and 
>> my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
>> problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
>> problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems 
>> of some just because they don't affect you.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Maria Campbell
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com 
>>  
>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
>> --Edmund Burke
>> On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In 
>> addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you 
>> against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
>>  
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>  
>>  On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
>> what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>  
>> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
>> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
>> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
>> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone 
>> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something 
>> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a 
>> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed 
>> as it was.
>>  
>> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
>> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
>> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
>> Motion.
>> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like 
>> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read 
>> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around 
>> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>>  
>> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior 
>> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the 
>> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I 
>> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, 
>> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by 
>> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>>  
>> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but 
>> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>>  
>> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
>> things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
>> province where I live:
>>  
>> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult 
>> to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each 
>> word correctly.
>> 
>> I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also 
>> have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test 
>> this, but it was not pronounced like this in 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

I was having issues on my 13 pro with that setting.
Try toggling it off; restart the phone; toggle it back on and see if it works.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 3, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:



Hi,

I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned this already 
pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 
is tap to wake is broken on my 13 Pro Max but is working on another device 
running a beta version so hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on 
the horizon. One can hope anyway.

Take good care.

Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Robin Frost]

  
  
Hi,
I might be late to the party here so if someone else mentioned
  this already pardon the repetition.  My most significant issue
  with iOS 15 through to 15.0.1 is tap to wake is broken on my 13
  Pro Max but is working on another device running a beta version so
  hopefully it's not device specific and a fix is on the horizon.
  One can hope anyway.
Take good care.
Robin


On 10/3/2021 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
My post pointed out my experience and apart
  from that I was asking about bugs others experience, I am not
  trying to minimize anything.
 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
  Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least
  buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more
  significant bugs you still experience?
  

 
Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact
  find annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items
  discovered was terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the
  locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a problem before. 
  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big
  problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing
  the problems of some just because they don't affect you.
 
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

  On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher
Chaltain wrote:


  
I
  can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in
  IOS 15. In addition, you also have to weigh how much a
  particular bug may impact you against any new features you
  want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
 

  --
  Christopher
(AKA CJ)
  Chaltain
at Outlook

 

  
From:
  viphone@googlegroups.com
  
 On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least
  buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more
  significant bugs you still experience?
  

 
The
  subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major
  bugs people are dealing with because I sometimes see
  statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I won't upgrade until
  some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I
  would encourage people also mention what device they use,
  my current phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be
  specific instead of saying something "I don't like the new
  Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new
  feature and there will always be things maybe one would
  wish had stayed as it was.
 
Also,
  before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't
  sometimes say the name of an app in the app switcher when
  you flick left, try the fix I read about and posted: go to
  Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce
  Motion.
If
  somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should
  be on I'd like to hear it and while I don't necessarily
  disagree that Voiceover should read the app names even
  with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
  for now especially if it doesn't have any other
  consequences.
 
Another
  issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their
  warning prior to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they
  experienced or heard about is the one where the Wallet app
  crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am
  very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As
  I said above, I use an iPhone 11 and this has never
  happened to me and I tried it also by turning on Voiceover
  on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
 
Next
  is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for
  me, but 

RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Interesting, I wonder if people who have an iPhone 11 comment on whether they 
experience this because I don't regardless whether I actually open the app and 
swipe or whether I bring up Wallet at a point of purchase terminal by double 
pressing the side button.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
dadnthed...@gmail.com
Sent: October 3, 2021 4:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The only bug I’m really experiencing is the wallet app.  I do have reduce 
motion off.
I am using iPhone XR.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I guess you solved the issue, it is one I didn't have, I tried in messages, 
email, Facebook posts, search fields and nowhere did I experience this when 
deleting characters.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 3, 2021 6:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Yhes, everywhere.


Richard
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Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Richard,

Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store etc.?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)



On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And especially not if it hasn't been reported. This is not something I came 
across on any of the Beta groups or in the Applevis article so if you have gone 
through your settings and made absolutely sure that this is a bug then  you 
should report it.
Maybe you can mention which settings you change exactly so some of us on the 
group can try to reproduce it.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 3, 2021 6:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be 
one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant 
bugs you still experience?

Have you reviewed the settings?

Many settings have changed or been added.

I never had a setup like you so I don’t know that it would have changed in such 
a minor update as 15.0.1.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one 
of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs 
you still experience?

Speaking of probable bugs… before on Ios14, I’d have sounds assigned to links, 
and to the “Actions Available” wihtin the rotor. Now with iOS15, though I’m 
still running 15.0), the sounds don’t seem to play as before! Thus having to 
revert back to Voiceover speaking the word “Link” or “Actions Available”. Am I 
the only one experiencing this situation? Has it been fixed in iOS15.0.1?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 3 oct 2021, a la(s) 8:09 a.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:
 Yhes, everywhere.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Richard,

Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store etc.?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 

RE: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

Have you reviewed the settings?

Many settings have changed or been added.

I never had a setup like you so I don’t know that it would have changed in such 
a minor update as 15.0.1.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one 
of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs 
you still experience?

Speaking of probable bugs… before on Ios14, I’d have sounds assigned to links, 
and to the “Actions Available” wihtin the rotor. Now with iOS15, though I’m 
still running 15.0), the sounds don’t seem to play as before! Thus having to 
revert back to Voiceover speaking the word “Link” or “Actions Available”. Am I 
the only one experiencing this situation? Has it been fixed in iOS15.0.1?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 3 oct 2021, a la(s) 8:09 a.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:
 Yhes, everywhere.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Richard,

Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store etc.?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)



On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by 

Sounds not working for Voiceover events? Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Speaking of probable bugs… before on Ios14, I’d have sounds assigned to links, 
and to the “Actions Available” wihtin the rotor. Now with iOS15, though I’m 
still running 15.0), the sounds don’t seem to play as before! Thus having to 
revert back to Voiceover speaking the word “Link” or “Actions Available”. Am I 
the only one experiencing this situation? Has it been fixed in iOS15.0.1?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 3 oct 2021, a la(s) 8:09 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
>  Yhes, everywhere.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> website:  www.turner42.com
> 
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>>  
>> Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
>> message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store 
>> etc.?
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
>> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>>  
>> My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
>> before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
>> text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...
>>  
>> But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation 
>> screw up yet.
>> If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
>> British comedy, British food, British accent.
>>  
>> Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.
>>  
>> I assume you have reported that to Apple.
>>  
>> But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new 
>> settings to sort out.
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>>   
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> website:  www.turner42.com
>>  
>> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
>> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
>> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
>> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone 
>> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something 
>> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a 
>> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed 
>> as it was.
>>  
>> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
>> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
>> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
>> Motion.
>> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like 
>> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read 
>> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around 
>> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>>  
>> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior 
>> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the 
>> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I 
>> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, 
>> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by 
>> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>>  
>> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but 
>> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>>  
>> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
>> things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
>> province where I live:
>>  
>> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>>  
>> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>>  
>> It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult 
>> to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each 
>> word correctly.
>> I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also 
>> have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test 
>> this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same 
>> voices.
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

Yhes, everywhere.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Richard,

Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store etc.?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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[dadnthedark]

The only bug I’m really experiencing is the wallet app.  I do have reduce 
motion off. 

I am using iPhone XR.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.

I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

 

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.

If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

 

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

 

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

 

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:

 

The British Columbia government says it's making progress...

 

British Columbia Buy and Sell

 

It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.

I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

Is this happening in all edit fields, e.g. when you compose or reply to a 
message, compose or reply to an email, type a search term in the App Store etc.?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 2, 2021 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, the volume fluctuations with Bluetooth speakers existed prior to iOS 15 
and it's interesting with the share sheet since just as with the Wallet app I 
experience absolutely 0 issues and all works just as it did in iOS 14.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: October 2, 2021 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

That share sheet issue is a thing. Sometimes it just says activity on the item 
instead of telling you messages or mail or what ever. It can take a couple 
times to get it to show properly. Next annoying issue is the one when you have  
a bluetooth device connected like a speaker. It pumps voice over volume way 
high on the phone if that's where you have your audio set to go. That's been a 
bug for a while now though.

On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma"
> before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere 
> in the text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...
>
> But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest 
> pronunciation screw up yet.
> If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
> British comedy, British food, British accent.
>
> Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.
>
> I assume you have reported that to Apple.
>
> But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new 
> settings to sort out.
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> 
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs 
> people are dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS 
> is a mess" and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" 
> etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current 
> phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of 
> saying something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of 
> course is not a bug but a new feature and there will always be things 
> maybe one would wish had stayed as it was.
>
> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes 
> say the name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try 
> the fix I read about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > 
> Motion and turn of Reduce Motion.
> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd 
> like to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover 
> should read the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is 
> a fix/work-around for now especially if it doesn't have any other 
> consequences.
>
> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning 
> prior to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard 
> about is the one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through 
> your cards/passes. I am very curious to hear how many people have this 
> problem. As I said above, I use an iPhone 11 and this has never 
> happened to me and I tried it also by turning on Voiceover on my wife's 
> iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>
> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but 
> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>
> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces 
> certain things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of 
> the Canadian province where I live:
>
>
> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>
>
>
> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>
>
>
> It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", 
> difficult to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word 
> it says each word correctly.
> I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and 
> also have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha 
> to test this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I 
> used the same voices.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

My post pointed out my experience and apart from that I was asking about bugs 
others experience, I am not trying to minimize anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: October 2, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I updated my iPhone to 15.01 or whatever the newest update
is called.  It was kind of a dumb reason, but I couldn't delete a
couple of Siri voices with 14.8 so I had no choice.  I personally
can't see any improvement between 15.0 and the newest update, but this
is just my opinion.  If you are looking through your voice over voices
in Siri, and find South Africa, a lot of the voice over voices
completely can't say South Africa at all.  The word is a jumbled mess.
I haven't experienced the delete issue that Richard talked about.  I
did notice, that Siri doesn't work that well if my iPhone is locked.
Also, don't try and download any new Siri voices at the present time.
It won't work.  I was messing with my iPhone all day yesterday and
talking with apple accessibility.  I finally got a very nice lady that
actually knew what the heck was going on, and she told me, it wasn't
my iPhone, but apples servers.  Like I said at the beginning of this
message, I wouldn't have updated to 15, then the newer version if it
hadn't been for me wanting to delete some Siri voices.


On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Simon, it's actually 15.0.1.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>
> 
> The newest update isn’t 15.1
>
> It’s 15.01,
>
> It’s only a 510mb download,
>
> Guess we see what it fixs once installed.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, 3 October 2021 9:25 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long
> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>
> Does 15.1 fix the wallet crashing?
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long
> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>
> I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In
> addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you
> against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time,
> what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are
> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I
> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone
> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something
> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a
> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed
> as it was.
>
> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the
> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read
> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce
> Motion.
> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like
> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read
> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>
> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior
> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the
> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I
> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above,
> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by
> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>
> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>
> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain
> things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian
> province where I live:
>
>
> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>
>
>
> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>
>
>
> It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult
> to exactly make it out and of 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

Simon, it's actually 15.0.1.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


The newest update isn’t 15.1

It’s 15.01,

It’s only a 510mb download,

Guess we see what it fixs once installed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 October 2021 9:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Does 15.1 fix the wallet crashing?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Simon A Fogarty]

The newest update isn’t 15.1

It’s 15.01,

It’s only a 510mb download,

Guess we see what it fixs once installed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 October 2021 9:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Does 15.1 fix the wallet crashing?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Kelly Pierce]

I have an iPhone 7. From what I can tell, there’s not much benefit for
those with 6s and 7 iPhones. I am used to waiting until November or
December to upgrade so major problems are fixed. Others can have the
grief, particularly when I am not getting big changes with an older
device.

Kelly



On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Interesting, I have not experienced that on this 13 Pro.
> That would be irritating for sure.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>
> I notice that it jumps so easily into Edit mode.  Just exploring by touch
> will jump you into Edit mode, and there have been times I have almost
> deleted an app by accident.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message - From: "lenron brown" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long
> time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
>
>
> That share sheet issue is a thing. Sometimes it just says activity on
> the item instead of telling you messages or mail or what ever. It can
> take a couple times to get it to show properly. Next annoying issue is
> the one when you have  a bluetooth device connected like a speaker. It
> pumps voice over volume way high on the phone if that's where you have
> your audio set to go. That's been a bug for a while now though.
>
> On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma"
> before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the
> text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...
>
> But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation
> screw up yet.
> If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
> British comedy, British food, British accent.
>
> Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.
>
> I assume you have reported that to Apple.
>
> But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new
> settings to sort out.
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5bba1d1c00a94944bb6708d985f83455%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637688123361061137%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=8FLwxY%2FTO3DSl6J%2FuxqxXERMSRLErOlgo5JcjGByyBw%3Dreserved=0
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> 
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people
> are
> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I
> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current
> phone
> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something
> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but
> a
> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed
> as it was.
>
> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say
> the
> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read
> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of
> Reduce
> Motion.
> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like
> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should
> read
> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>
> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning
> prior
> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the
> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes.
> I
> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above,
> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by
> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>
> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>
> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces
> certain
> things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian
> province where I live:
>
>
> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>
>
>
> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>
>
>
> It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia",
> difficult
> to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each
> word 

Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

Interesting, I have not experienced that on this 13 Pro.
That would be irritating for sure.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

I notice that it jumps so easily into Edit mode.  Just exploring by touch will 
jump you into Edit mode, and there have been times I have almost deleted an app 
by accident.

Andy

- Original Message - From: "lenron brown" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


That share sheet issue is a thing. Sometimes it just says activity on
the item instead of telling you messages or mail or what ever. It can
take a couple times to get it to show properly. Next annoying issue is
the one when you have  a bluetooth device connected like a speaker. It
pumps voice over volume way high on the phone if that's where you have
your audio set to go. That's been a bug for a while now though.

On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma"
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation
screw up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new
settings to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- Jane Wagner





website:  
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5bba1d1c00a94944bb6708d985f83455%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637688123361061137%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=8FLwxY%2FTO3DSl6J%2FuxqxXERMSRLErOlgo5JcjGByyBw%3Dreserved=0

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone
is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something
"I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a
new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed
as it was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like
to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read
the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior
to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the
one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I
am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above,
I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by
turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
apparently some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult
to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each
word correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also
have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test
this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same
voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Andy Baracco]

I notice that it jumps so easily into Edit mode.  Just exploring by touch 
will jump you into Edit mode, and there have been times I have almost 
deleted an app by accident.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "lenron brown" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2021 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?



That share sheet issue is a thing. Sometimes it just says activity on
the item instead of telling you messages or mail or what ever. It can
take a couple times to get it to show properly. Next annoying issue is
the one when you have  a bluetooth device connected like a speaker. It
pumps voice over volume way high on the phone if that's where you have
your audio set to go. That's been a bug for a while now though.

On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying 
"comma"
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in 
the

text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation
screw up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new
settings to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it."

-- Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people 
are
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and 
"I

won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current 
phone
is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying 
something
"I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but 
a
new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had 
stayed

as it was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say 
the

name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of 
Reduce

Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like
to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should 
read
the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a 
fix/work-around

for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning 
prior
to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is 
the
one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. 
I
am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said 
above,
I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also 
by

turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
apparently some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces 
certain

things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", 
difficult

to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each
word correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also
have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test
this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same
voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[lenron brown]

That share sheet issue is a thing. Sometimes it just says activity on
the item instead of telling you messages or mail or what ever. It can
take a couple times to get it to show properly. Next annoying issue is
the one when you have  a bluetooth device connected like a speaker. It
pumps voice over volume way high on the phone if that's where you have
your audio set to go. That's been a bug for a while now though.

On 10/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma"
> before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the
> text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...
>
> But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation
> screw up yet.
> If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
> British comedy, British food, British accent.
>
> Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.
>
> I assume you have reported that to Apple.
>
> But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new
> settings to sort out.
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> 
> The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are
> dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I
> won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
> I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone
> is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something
> "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a
> new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed
> as it was.
>
> Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the
> name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read
> about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce
> Motion.
> If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like
> to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read
> the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around
> for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.
>
> Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior
> to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the
> one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I
> am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above,
> I use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by
> turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.
>
> Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but
> apparently some people say they are having problems.
>
> Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain
> things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian
> province where I live:
>
>
> The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
>
>
>
> British Columbia Buy and Sell
>
>
>
> It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult
> to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each
> word correctly.
> I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also
> have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test
> this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same
> voices.
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

My biggest irritation right now is that VoiceOver insists on saying "comma" 
before each letter you delete even though there is no comma anywhere in the 
text.  Almost as irritating to me as the bloody woodpecker noise...

But, your issue with British Columbia must be the strangest pronunciation screw 
up yet.
If you write the word British in other contexts, it says it correctly.
British comedy, British food, British accent.

Perhaps Apple has an issue with the number of bars in BC.  Ha, ha.

I assume you have reported that to Apple.

But overall, iOS 15 is quite good, just new wrinkles and lots of new settings 
to sort out.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Maria Campbell]

I wasn't referring to Christopher himself, and I'm sorry if I implied 
that.  It was meant to be a general statement.



Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/2/2021 5:29 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


Christopher,

You have nothing to apologize for.

Your previous statement did not minimize issues others were having.  
You made an I statement.


You also pointed out each person has to evaluate the level of 
inconvenience or lack of functionality for themselves.


Some people interpret I statements as if you said everyone should feel 
this way.


I’ve gotten that response too when I made clear I statements.

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it.” – Jane Wagner


My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Christopher Chaltain

*Sent:* Saturday, October 2, 2021 1:58 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in 
a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Sorry, I realize I don’t do the same things on my phone that someone 
else does, so I never meant to minimize the issues anyone else was 
having that I wasn’t seeing myself. I wish I’d taken the time to state 
that in my post.


I remember the horrible bugs I faced with an earlier version of IOS 
where I basically had to restart my phone every time I hung up on a 
phone call or restart VoiceOver every time I replied to an email 
message, and how frustrating it was to have people dismiss those 
issues because they weren’t seeing it themselves. I ended up giving 
Android a try because those bugs were so frustrating and it took six 
months to get one fixed and two years before the other was addressed.


That being said, I do think people need to look at the bugs in a new 
version of IOS and how they use their phone to see how much they’ll be 
impacted by those bugs. They’ll also need to weigh this against the 
new features they may also be able to take advantage of in a new 
version of IOS.


--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Maria Campbell

*Sent:* Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:32 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in 
a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find 
annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was 
terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which 
isn't a biggy, but not a problem before. And, all the phrases removed 
from hey Siri might be a big problem to people with typing issues.  
Please stop minimizing the problems of some just because they don't 
affect you.


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com  
  
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke

On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15.
In addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may
impact you against any new features you want to take advantage of
in IOS 15.

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
  *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in
a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs
people are dealing with because I sometimes see statements like
"iOS is a mess" and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have
been resolved" etc.

I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my
current phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific
instead of saying something "I don't like the new Focus feature"
since that of course is not a bug but a new feature and there will
always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't
sometimes say the name of an app in the app switcher when you
flick left, try the fix I read about and posted: go to Settings >
Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce Motion.

If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on
I'd like to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that
Voiceover should read the app names even with this turned on,
turning it off is a 

RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Richard Turner]

Christopher,
You have nothing to apologize for.
Your previous statement did not minimize issues others were having.  You made 
an I statement.
You also pointed out each person has to evaluate the level of inconvenience or 
lack of functionality for themselves.

Some people interpret I statements as if you said everyone should feel this way.

I've gotten that response too when I made clear I statements.





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Sorry, I realize I don't do the same things on my phone that someone else does, 
so I never meant to minimize the issues anyone else was having that I wasn't 
seeing myself. I wish I'd taken the time to state that in my post.

I remember the horrible bugs I faced with an earlier version of IOS where I 
basically had to restart my phone every time I hung up on a phone call or 
restart VoiceOver every time I replied to an email message, and how frustrating 
it was to have people dismiss those issues because they weren't seeing it 
themselves. I ended up giving Android a try because those bugs were so 
frustrating and it took six months to get one fixed and two years before the 
other was addressed.

That being said, I do think people need to look at the bugs in a new version of 
IOS and how they use their phone to see how much they'll be impacted by those 
bugs. They'll also need to weigh this against the new features they may also be 
able to take advantage of in a new version of IOS.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can't' think of any significant bugs I've encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my 

RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Sorry, I realize I don't do the same things on my phone that someone else does, 
so I never meant to minimize the issues anyone else was having that I wasn't 
seeing myself. I wish I'd taken the time to state that in my post.

I remember the horrible bugs I faced with an earlier version of IOS where I 
basically had to restart my phone every time I hung up on a phone call or 
restart VoiceOver every time I replied to an email message, and how frustrating 
it was to have people dismiss those issues because they weren't seeing it 
themselves. I ended up giving Android a try because those bugs were so 
frustrating and it took six months to get one fixed and two years before the 
other was addressed.

That being said, I do think people need to look at the bugs in a new version of 
IOS and how they use their phone to see how much they'll be impacted by those 
bugs. They'll also need to weigh this against the new features they may also be 
able to take advantage of in a new version of IOS.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can't' think of any significant bugs I've encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Carolyn]

Maria, try this with Hay Siri. Ask Siri a question. Then ask her what you want. 
On the second try, Siri has worked for me on Hay Siri in more than one 
instance. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Campbell
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find annoying 
bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was terrible, and my 
hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't a biggy, but not a 
problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from hey Siri might be a big 
problem to people with typing issues.  Please stop minimizing the problems of 
some just because they don't affect you.




Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com  

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In 
addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you 
against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
   On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs 
people are dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" 
and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.

I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current 
phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying 
something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a 
bug but a new feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had 
stayed as it was.

 

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes 
say the name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I 
read about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of 
Reduce Motion.

If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd 
like to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should 
read the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a 
fix/work-around for now especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

 

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning 
prior to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is 
the one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. 
I am very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I 
use an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by 
turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

 

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but 
apparently some people say they are having problems.

 

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces 
certain things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the 
Canadian province where I live:

 

The British Columbia government says it's making progress...

 

British Columbia Buy and Sell

 

It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", 
difficult to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says 
each word correctly.

I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and 
also have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test 
this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same 
voices.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Carolyn]

I just downloaded 15.1, and like with 15, when it was ready, Bluetooth was on. 
I had my hearing aids on, so I knew right away. I did not have it on, when I 
downloaded and installed either update, and I prefer that it not happen.  I did 
check things in settings that were changed with some recent updates, but 
thankfully, I did not find any setting tampering other than Bluetooth. If 
someone did not have hearing aids, it could be days before they could realize 
this. 

In one update, it took me a while to figure out what had happened. AWhenever I 
was out of the house, I couldn't get Siri to do anything, said I was off the 
Net. Finally I checked in Settings, and I was off the Net, got back on, and all 
was well. I think that is an unnecessary problem and am thankful it happened to 
me now rather then when I was first using an iPhone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 4:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.

I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

 

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.

If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

 

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

 

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

 

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:

 

The British Columbia government says it's making progress...

 

British Columbia Buy and Sell

 

It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.

I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Maria Campbell]

Obviously, one size does not fit all.  Many of us did in fact find 
annoying bugs in 15.  That annoying haptic on no items discovered was 
terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which isn't 
a biggy, but not a problem before.  And, all the phrases removed from 
hey Siri might be a big problem to people with typing issues.  Please 
stop minimizing the problems of some just because they don't affect you.



Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In 
addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact 
you against any new features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.


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*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:* Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a 
long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?


The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs 
people are dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS 
is a mess" and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been 
resolved" etc.


I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current 
phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of 
saying something "I don't like the new Focus feature" since that of 
course is not a bug but a new feature and there will always be things 
maybe one would wish had stayed as it was.


Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes 
say the name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try 
the fix I read about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > 
Motion and turn of Reduce Motion.


If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd 
like to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover 
should read the app names even with this turned on, turning it off is 
a fix/work-around for now especially if it doesn't have any other 
consequences.


Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning 
prior to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard 
about is the one where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through 
your cards/passes. I am very curious to hear how many people have this 
problem. As I said above, I use an iPhone 11 and this has never 
happened to me and I tried it also by turning on Voiceover on my 
wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.


Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but 
apparently some people say they are having problems.


Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces 
certain things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of 
the Canadian province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...

British Columbia Buy and Sell

It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", 
difficult to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word 
it says each word correctly.


I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and 
also have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha 
to test this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I 
used the same voices.


Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Does 15.1 fix the wallet crashing?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long 
time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

 

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.

I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

 

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.

If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

 

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

 

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

 

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:

 

The British Columbia government says it's making progress...

 

British Columbia Buy and Sell

 

It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.

I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I can't' think of any significant bugs I've encountered in IOS 15. In addition, 
you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may impact you against any new 
features you want to take advantage of in IOS 15.

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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, 
what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs people are 
dealing with because I sometimes see statements like "iOS is a mess" and "I 
won't upgrade until some of the bugs have been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my current phone is 
an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific instead of saying something "I 
don't like the new Focus feature" since that of course is not a bug but a new 
feature and there will always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it 
was.

Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't sometimes say the 
name of an app in the app switcher when you flick left, try the fix I read 
about and posted: go to Settings > Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce 
Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on I'd like to 
hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that Voiceover should read the 
app names even with this turned on, turning it off is a fix/work-around for now 
especially if it doesn't have any other consequences.

Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their warning prior to 
the iOS 15 release about the bugs they experienced or heard about is the one 
where the Wallet app crashes when you flick through your cards/passes. I am 
very curious to hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use 
an iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by turning 
on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works fine.

Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me, but apparently 
some people say they are having problems.

Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover mispronounces certain 
things, here are two sample phrases which contain the name of the Canadian 
province where I live:


The British Columbia government says it's making progress...



British Columbia Buy and Sell



It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia", difficult to 
exactly make it out and of course if you go word by word it says each word 
correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice and also have 
the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed Samantha to test this, but 
it was not pronounced like this in iOS 14 where I used the same voices.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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