RE: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Star Gazer]

Thank you 

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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

All done. 

Richard 


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On Apr 15, 2021, at 6:41 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
•  I’ve Googled and apparently the Iphone 12 mini (and this seems unique to the 
Iphone 12 though I don’t know if it is unique to only the mini is that it no 
longer charges wirelessly. It charges for a minute (and I mean that literally) 
then stops. I’d like that fixed. 
•  I’d also like to have voiceover come over the phone speaker and audio 
through a speaker when paired to Bluetooth. 
•  For example, I’d like to be able to listen to a caps game over my Bluetooth 
speaker and say all kinds of things over text about the game and have that be 
displayed if you will on my phone. 
•  I’d like the default to be where voiceover is displayed on the Iphone 
speaker instead of being picked up by Bluetooth with the rest of the audio. 
•  This is an ongoing issue since my last Iphone, an Iphonex I think. 
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Re: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Richard Turner]

All done.


Richard


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On Apr 15, 2021, at 6:41 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:

  *   I’ve Googled and apparently the Iphone 12 mini (and this seems unique to 
the Iphone 12 though I don’t know if it is unique to only the mini is that it 
no longer charges wirelessly. It charges for a minute (and I mean that 
literally) then stops. I’d like that fixed.
  *   I’d also like to have voiceover come over the phone speaker and audio 
through a speaker when paired to Bluetooth.
  *   For example, I’d like to be able to listen to a caps game over my 
Bluetooth speaker and say all kinds of things over text about the game and have 
that be displayed if you will on my phone.
  *   I’d like the default to be where voiceover is displayed on the Iphone 
speaker instead of being picked up by Bluetooth with the rest of the audio.
  *   This is an ongoing issue since my last Iphone, an Iphonex I think.
  *

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Re: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Star Gazer]

Please submit it Richard. I see in audio settings under the roder something 
that looks like you should be able to display voiceover on the phone though at 
this point it is only a decoration 

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> On Apr 15, 2021, at 09:50, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have no position whatsoever.
> But, I can submit your feedback through the beta feedback program as feature 
> requests.
> I know that lots of people would prefer VoiceOver to stay on the phone when 
> connected to a Bluetooth speaker.
> The problem I see there is if you are using Bluetooth headphones, you want 
> VoiceOver in your headphones, right?
> I’m not sure it is smart enough to be able to separate the two.
>  
> I have an extra old SE that I am using with the beta so I can submit feedback 
> for what it is worth.
> You should also send that list to accessibil...@apple.com and go to 
> www.apple.com/feedback and submit it under iPhone feedback.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
> Gazer
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5
>  
> Hi Richard,
> Are you in a position to fix or communicate fixes?
> Not asking to be snarky, but I have a few.
> I’ve Googled and apparently the Iphone 12 mini (and this seems unique to the 
> Iphone 12 though I don’t know if it is unique to only the mini is that it no 
> longer charges wirelessly. It charges for a minute (and I mean that 
> literally) then stops. I’d like that fixed.
> I’d also like to have voiceover come over the phone speaker and audio through 
> a speaker when paired to Bluetooth.
> For example, I’d like to be able to listen to a caps game over my Bluetooth 
> speaker and say all kinds of things over text about the game and have that be 
> displayed if you will on my phone.
> I’d like the default to be where voiceover is displayed on the Iphone speaker 
> instead of being picked up by Bluetooth with the rest of the audio.
> This is an ongoing issue since my last Iphone, an Iphonex I think.
>  
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 5:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5
>  
> Hello all,
> Could you remind me of what issues people are hoping to have fixed in iOS 
> 14.5?
> I’ve been concentrating on several different braille devices and fallen 
> behind on keeping up with issues, and since I suspect 14.5 is close to 
> happening, could you refresh my memory?
>  
> I know message threading focus is a big one … but that isn’t all, I’m sure.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
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>  
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RE: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Richard Turner]

I have no position whatsoever.
But, I can submit your feedback through the beta feedback program as feature 
requests.
I know that lots of people would prefer VoiceOver to stay on the phone when 
connected to a Bluetooth speaker.
The problem I see there is if you are using Bluetooth headphones, you want 
VoiceOver in your headphones, right?
I'm not sure it is smart enough to be able to separate the two.

I have an extra old SE that I am using with the beta so I can submit feedback 
for what it is worth.
You should also send that list to 
accessibil...@apple.com and go to 
www.apple.com/feedback and submit it under 
iPhone feedback.

HTH,

Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

Hi Richard,
Are you in a position to fix or communicate fixes?
Not asking to be snarky, but I have a few.

  1.  I've Googled and apparently the Iphone 12 mini (and this seems unique to 
the Iphone 12 though I don't know if it is unique to only the mini is that it 
no longer charges wirelessly. It charges for a minute (and I mean that 
literally) then stops. I'd like that fixed.
  2.  I'd also like to have voiceover come over the phone speaker and audio 
through a speaker when paired to Bluetooth.
  3.  For example, I'd like to be able to listen to a caps game over my 
Bluetooth speaker and say all kinds of things over text about the game and have 
that be displayed if you will on my phone.
  4.  I'd like the default to be where voiceover is displayed on the Iphone 
speaker instead of being picked up by Bluetooth with the rest of the audio.
  5.  This is an ongoing issue since my last Iphone, an Iphonex I think.
  6.

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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

Hello all,
Could you remind me of what issues people are hoping to have fixed in iOS 14.5?
I've been concentrating on several different braille devices and fallen behind 
on keeping up with issues, and since I suspect 14.5 is close to happening, 
could you refresh my memory?

I know message threading focus is a big one ... but that isn't all, I'm sure.

Thanks,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
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Web site: 
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RE: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Star Gazer]

Hi Richard, 
Are you in a position to fix or communicate fixes? 
Not asking to be snarky, but I have a few. 
1. I’ve Googled and apparently the Iphone 12 mini (and this seems unique to the 
Iphone 12 though I don’t know if it is unique to only the mini is that it no 
longer charges wirelessly. It charges for a minute (and I mean that literally) 
then stops. I’d like that fixed. 
2. I’d also like to have voiceover come over the phone speaker and audio 
through a speaker when paired to Bluetooth. 
3. For example, I’d like to be able to listen to a caps game over my Bluetooth 
speaker and say all kinds of things over text about the game and have that be 
displayed if you will on my phone. 
4. I’d like the default to be where voiceover is displayed on the Iphone 
speaker instead of being picked up by Bluetooth with the rest of the audio. 
5. This is an ongoing issue since my last Iphone, an Iphonex I think. 
6. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

Hello all,
Could you remind me of what issues people are hoping to have fixed in iOS 14.5?
I’ve been concentrating on several different braille devices and fallen behind 
on keeping up with issues, and since I suspect 14.5 is close to happening, 
could you refresh my memory?

I know message threading focus is a big one … but that isn’t all, I’m sure.

Thanks,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



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Re: panning pages in braille with 14.5 RE: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi Richard. Thanks so much. I think if it's corrected it will work in both of 
those apps. 

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Apr 14, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I am very optimistic that 14.5 will solve the problem of the braille skipping 
lines in Voice Dream Reader when changing pages.
I don’t use the Kindle app enough to guess there, but so long as the “Turn 
pages when panning” is on in the VoiceOver Braille settings, you should find it 
a good experience once again.
 
 
 
Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 
Web site: www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Ilniski
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5
 
I'm hoping that the bug with Braille in reading apps like Voice Dream Reader 
and Kindle will be fixed. When I'm reading a book when I get to the last line 
on a page instead of going to the top of the next page focus is lost and I end 
up somewhere on the next page not the top for sure. 

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Apr 14, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Hello all,
Could you remind me of what issues people are hoping to have fixed in iOS 14.5?
I’ve been concentrating on several different braille devices and fallen behind 
on keeping up with issues, and since I suspect 14.5 is close to happening, 
could you refresh my memory?
 
I know message threading focus is a big one … but that isn’t all, I’m sure.
 
Thanks,
 
 
Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 
Web site: www.turner42.com
 
 
 
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panning pages in braille with 14.5 RE: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Richard Turner]

I am very optimistic that 14.5 will solve the problem of the braille skipping 
lines in Voice Dream Reader when changing pages.
I don’t use the Kindle app enough to guess there, but so long as the “Turn 
pages when panning” is on in the VoiceOver Braille settings, you should find it 
a good experience once again.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rebecca 
Ilniski
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

I'm hoping that the bug with Braille in reading apps like Voice Dream Reader 
and Kindle will be fixed. When I'm reading a book when I get to the last line 
on a page instead of going to the top of the next page focus is lost and I end 
up somewhere on the next page not the top for sure.
Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Apr 14, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello all,
Could you remind me of what issues people are hoping to have fixed in iOS 14.5?
I’ve been concentrating on several different braille devices and fallen behind 
on keeping up with issues, and since I suspect 14.5 is close to happening, 
could you refresh my memory?

I know message threading focus is a big one … but that isn’t all, I’m sure.

Thanks,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: 
www.turner42.com



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Re: Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Rebecca Ilniski]

I'm hoping that the bug with Braille in reading apps like Voice Dream Reader 
and Kindle will be fixed. When I'm reading a book when I get to the last line 
on a page instead of going to the top of the next page focus is lost and I end 
up somewhere on the next page not the top for sure. 

Rebecca Ilniski and Marvin
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Apr 14, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Hello all,
Could you remind me of what issues people are hoping to have fixed in iOS 14.5?
I’ve been concentrating on several different braille devices and fallen behind 
on keeping up with issues, and since I suspect 14.5 is close to happening, 
could you refresh my memory?
 
I know message threading focus is a big one … but that isn’t all, I’m sure.
 
Thanks,
 
 
Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 
Web site: www.turner42.com
 
 
 
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Issues in iOS 14.4 that you are hoping are fixed in 14.5

[Richard Turner]

Hello all,
Could you remind me of what issues people are hoping to have fixed in iOS 14.5?
I've been concentrating on several different braille devices and fallen behind 
on keeping up with issues, and since I suspect 14.5 is close to happening, 
could you refresh my memory?

I know message threading focus is a big one ... but that isn't all, I'm sure.

Thanks,


Richard
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