Re: Jumping in with using a Mac
Exactly Eric, no need to throw out all the concepts with the keystrokes. lol Enjoy Raul Garth www.iblindtech.com/ Search for iBlindTech in iTunes or your favourite pod catcher to subscribe to the iBlindTech Democast. Send email to iblindt...@gmail.com Follow me on twitter @iBlindTech or @iBlindTechDemo for just the podcast info. On 07/04/2013, at 9:42 AM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: I've always thought that was a bit of a dumb adage about not thinking of mac os and expecting it to be like windows. I mean, if you can't use a computer unless insert T reads the title bar and control option f1 just won't do, you're head's probably not in the right place for learning a new operating system/screen reader. If you are OK with insert T, control shift T, control option f1, or whatever it is in orka, because you know you want to read the title bar and that's the key that reads the title bar in the environment you're using, you'll be fine. If you understand what cut, copy, paste and undo are, then I don't see the problem with thinking of them the same way in windows as in dos or linux or mac OS. So it's command z, x, c, and V, not control all of the above and if you're comfortable with the semantics, then I don't see why you shouldn't carry the concept across. I take different approaches depending on my audience. Some people need to be kicked ruthlessly in the pants to break them out of the habit of pressing insert T for the title bar and wining when they don't have an insert key. other people can't use any synth other than elloquence and won't touch a new platform unless they can have it speaking to them with reid at 166 wpm. Insert epithet here. I honestly think you're probably flexible enough raul, that you don't need to throw out the knowledge and experience of 20 plus years or whatever it is just so you don't try to treat mac os like windows. Enjoy your new mac. I think you'll be very happy. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-04-06, at 7:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello. I hope this day finds you well. Starting on Monday, April 8 I will join the MacWorld. I figure I have been an iOS user for about three years so now it is time to start using a Mac. My first machine is a MacBook Pro 13 inch with 250 gig hard drive. I believe it is a mid or late 2010 model. I cannot remember exactly what it is, however it does run Mountain lion and it will give me a chance to get my feet wet without spending two or $3000 upfront. It looks like I have some guides to read, however I do not suspect it will be all that difficult. I like learning new things and like the challenge of new operating systems. I know DOS, Linux, and windows very well. So I suspect learning the Mac operating system will not be too terrible. I already know about some of the things to watch out for. For example I should not think of Mac OS like windows. Instead I will think of Mac OS like Mac OS. I believe that thinking of an operating system in terms of its own ways and itself will be the best way. This message has nothing useful really in it other than me bragging. Take care all. --- Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto complete errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
RE: Jumping in with using a Mac
Might I respectfully ask that Mac topics are posted to the various Mac lists? This list has enough traffic already. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 12:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jumping in with using a Mac Hi Craig. Well for starters, I'd recommend any newby Mac user go through the Voiceover interactive tutorial. I think that's why some people complain that the Mac is too hard, because they don't do it or they do but they don't complete it. As I've said in my previous post, yes, there is a learning curve, but once you've learned to interact with items on your screen, you're pretty much set. I didn't follow any podcasts or websites to learn Voiceover, it came naturally. And now look at me. I've had my Mac for almost 3 years and loving every minute of it. -- Shawn Sent from my White MacBook using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jumping in with using a Mac
I highly recommend Earle Harrison's Mac Academy Workshop book, which you can get in braille or on CD as an HTML document. Well worth the money. On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 18:13:08 -0500, you wrote: Hello. I hope this day finds you well. Starting on Monday, April 8 I will join the MacWorld. I figure I have been an iOS user for about three years so now it is time to start using a Mac. My first machine is a MacBook Pro 13 inch with 250 gig hard drive. I believe it is a mid or late 2010 model. I cannot remember exactly what it is, however it does run Mountain lion and it will give me a chance to get my feet wet without spending two or $3000 upfront. It looks like I have some guides to read, however I do not suspect it will be all that difficult. I like learning new things and like the challenge of new operating systems. I know DOS, Linux, and windows very well. So I suspect learning the Mac operating system will not be too terrible. I already know about some of the things to watch out for. For example I should not think of Mac OS like windows. Instead I will think of Mac OS like Mac OS. I believe that thinking of an operating system in terms of its own ways and itself will be the best way. This message has nothing useful really in it other than me bragging. Take care all. --- Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto complete errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Jumping in with using a Mac
That's a matter of opinion. I didn't buy the book or CD, but I got along just fine coming from windows to the mac. I also know people who did buy it, and say they learned more on their own. So hey, to each their own. 75 bucks is a little steep for a book that most people who are not scared to try new things, can learn on their own. Kliphton Senior (iMessageEmail) kliph...@icloud.com (TwitterSkype) kliphton72 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 11:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jumping in with using a Mac I highly recommend Earle Harrison's Mac Academy Workshop book, which you can get in braille or on CD as an HTML document. Well worth the money. On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 18:13:08 -0500, you wrote: Hello. I hope this day finds you well. Starting on Monday, April 8 I will join the MacWorld. I figure I have been an iOS user for about three years so now it is time to start using a Mac. My first machine is a MacBook Pro 13 inch with 250 gig hard drive. I believe it is a mid or late 2010 model. I cannot remember exactly what it is, however it does run Mountain lion and it will give me a chance to get my feet wet without spending two or $3000 upfront. It looks like I have some guides to read, however I do not suspect it will be all that difficult. I like learning new things and like the challenge of new operating systems. I know DOS, Linux, and windows very well. So I suspect learning the Mac operating system will not be too terrible. I already know about some of the things to watch out for. For example I should not think of Mac OS like windows. Instead I will think of Mac OS like Mac OS. I believe that thinking of an operating system in terms of its own ways and itself will be the best way. This message has nothing useful really in it other than me bragging. Take care all. --- Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto complete errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jumping in with using a Mac
Hello all. Sieghard is actually correct. When I posted my message I meant for it to only go to the Mac list. I have been reading messages on the iPhone and had viPhone on the brain. After I saw that a little bit ago I felt really bad because coming from a moderator I wouldn't have wanted to see someone else do this either. So with a hand slapping on myself, let's bring this topic to a close and discuss the Mac on the Mac list. On a side note I do appreciate the congratulations and the various suggestions on how to best proceed. However it does belong on the Mac list. --- Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto complete errors. On Apr 7, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Might I respectfully ask that Mac topics are posted to the various Mac lists? This list has enough traffic already. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 12:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jumping in with using a Mac Hi Craig. Well for starters, I'd recommend any newby Mac user go through the Voiceover interactive tutorial. I think that's why some people complain that the Mac is too hard, because they don't do it or they do but they don't complete it. As I've said in my previous post, yes, there is a learning curve, but once you've learned to interact with items on your screen, you're pretty much set. I didn't follow any podcasts or websites to learn Voiceover, it came naturally. And now look at me. I've had my Mac for almost 3 years and loving every minute of it. -- Shawn Sent from my White MacBook using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Jumping in with using a Mac
Hello. I hope this day finds you well. Starting on Monday, April 8 I will join the MacWorld. I figure I have been an iOS user for about three years so now it is time to start using a Mac. My first machine is a MacBook Pro 13 inch with 250 gig hard drive. I believe it is a mid or late 2010 model. I cannot remember exactly what it is, however it does run Mountain lion and it will give me a chance to get my feet wet without spending two or $3000 upfront. It looks like I have some guides to read, however I do not suspect it will be all that difficult. I like learning new things and like the challenge of new operating systems. I know DOS, Linux, and windows very well. So I suspect learning the Mac operating system will not be too terrible. I already know about some of the things to watch out for. For example I should not think of Mac OS like windows. Instead I will think of Mac OS like Mac OS. I believe that thinking of an operating system in terms of its own ways and itself will be the best way. This message has nothing useful really in it other than me bragging. Take care all. --- Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto complete errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jumping in with using a Mac
I've always thought that was a bit of a dumb adage about not thinking of mac os and expecting it to be like windows. I mean, if you can't use a computer unless insert T reads the title bar and control option f1 just won't do, you're head's probably not in the right place for learning a new operating system/screen reader. If you are OK with insert T, control shift T, control option f1, or whatever it is in orka, because you know you want to read the title bar and that's the key that reads the title bar in the environment you're using, you'll be fine. If you understand what cut, copy, paste and undo are, then I don't see the problem with thinking of them the same way in windows as in dos or linux or mac OS. So it's command z, x, c, and V, not control all of the above and if you're comfortable with the semantics, then I don't see why you shouldn't carry the concept across. I take different approaches depending on my audience. Some people need to be kicked ruthlessly in the pants to break them out of the habit of pressing insert T for the title bar and wining when they don't have an insert key. other people can't use any synth other than elloquence and won't touch a new platform unless they can have it speaking to them with reid at 166 wpm. Insert epithet here. I honestly think you're probably flexible enough raul, that you don't need to throw out the knowledge and experience of 20 plus years or whatever it is just so you don't try to treat mac os like windows. Enjoy your new mac. I think you'll be very happy. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-04-06, at 7:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello. I hope this day finds you well. Starting on Monday, April 8 I will join the MacWorld. I figure I have been an iOS user for about three years so now it is time to start using a Mac. My first machine is a MacBook Pro 13 inch with 250 gig hard drive. I believe it is a mid or late 2010 model. I cannot remember exactly what it is, however it does run Mountain lion and it will give me a chance to get my feet wet without spending two or $3000 upfront. It looks like I have some guides to read, however I do not suspect it will be all that difficult. I like learning new things and like the challenge of new operating systems. I know DOS, Linux, and windows very well. So I suspect learning the Mac operating system will not be too terrible. I already know about some of the things to watch out for. For example I should not think of Mac OS like windows. Instead I will think of Mac OS like Mac OS. I believe that thinking of an operating system in terms of its own ways and itself will be the best way. This message has nothing useful really in it other than me bragging. Take care all. --- Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto complete errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jumping in with using a Mac
I agree with Eric. The key in learning very different things is in understanding concepts. One can take the concept of time and learn for example stop watches, calendars, time zones, etc. To some extent The concept of an operating system is to use it as a springboard to accomplishing various tasks. For example, once you understand the concept of cut, copy, paste, and or editing in a word processor, it doesn't matter whether one is using MS word or WordPad. Again, there are many ways to get from Washington to Florida including biking, bus, train, car, plane, etc. One need only understand and work with what they have to accomplish their goal. Then again, the person who insists on walking because its easy and free will have lots of unnecessary difficulties IE: some solutions are better than others. I will also add that for many of us, as blind individuals we've had to think out of the box for many years, so developing techniques for accomplishing tasks will not be all that much of a stretch. In other words, to some extent, many of us who have applied him or herself are probably much more creative than the average sighted person--in my opinion of course. LS Original Message - From: erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Jumping in with using a Mac I've always thought that was a bit of a dumb adage about not thinking of mac os and expecting it to be like windows. I mean, if you can't use a computer unless insert T reads the title bar and control option f1 just won't do, you're head's probably not in the right place for learning a new operating system/screen reader. If you are OK with insert T, control shift T, control option f1, or whatever it is in orka, because you know you want to read the title bar and that's the key that reads the title bar in the environment you're using, you'll be fine. If you understand what cut, copy, paste and undo are, then I don't see the problem with thinking of them the same way in windows as in dos or linux or mac OS. So it's command z, x, c, and V, not control all of the above and if you're comfortable with the semantics, then I don't see why you shouldn't carry the concept across. I take different approaches depending on my audience. Some people need to be kicked ruthlessly in the pants to break them out of the habit of pressing insert T for the title bar and wining when they don't have an insert key. other people can't use any synth other than elloquence and won't touch a new platform unless they can have it speaking to them with reid at 166 wpm. Insert epithet here. I honestly think you're probably flexible enough raul, that you don't need to throw out the knowledge and experience of 20 plus years or whatever it is just so you don't try to treat mac os like windows. Enjoy your new mac. I think you'll be very happy. Best, Erik Burggraaf Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2013-04-06, at 7:13 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello. I hope this day finds you well. Starting on Monday, April 8 I will join the MacWorld. I figure I have been an iOS user for about three years so now it is time to start using a Mac. My first machine is a MacBook Pro 13 inch with 250 gig hard drive. I believe it is a mid or late 2010 model. I cannot remember exactly what it is, however it does run Mountain lion and it will give me a chance to get my feet wet without spending two or $3000 upfront. It looks like I have some guides to read, however I do not suspect it will be all that difficult. I like learning new things and like the challenge of new operating systems. I know DOS, Linux, and windows very well. So I suspect learning the Mac operating system will not be too terrible. I already know about some of the things to watch out for. For example I should not think of Mac OS like windows. Instead I will think of Mac OS like Mac OS. I believe that thinking of an operating system in terms of its own ways and itself will be the best way. This message has nothing useful really in it other than me bragging. Take care all. --- Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto complete errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone
Re: Jumping in with using a Mac
Raul, enjoy your new computer adventure. Your post brings up a large question: If one were to decide to start using a Mac, how would one go about learning it? In the case of the iPhone, it seems to me the process is easy: get an iPhone, read the VoiceOver documentation on the Apple site, read Anna Dresner's book, talk to fellow users, and start tapping. How would one approach the Mac? What kinds of documentation are useful, and where does one find this documentation? Which Mac does one start with? Craig On 4/6/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Hello. I hope this day finds you well. Starting on Monday, April 8 I will join the MacWorld. I figure I have been an iOS user for about three years so now it is time to start using a Mac. My first machine is a MacBook Pro 13 inch with 250 gig hard drive. I believe it is a mid or late 2010 model. I cannot remember exactly what it is, however it does run Mountain lion and it will give me a chance to get my feet wet without spending two or $3000 upfront. It looks like I have some guides to read, however I do not suspect it will be all that difficult. I like learning new things and like the challenge of new operating systems. I know DOS, Linux, and windows very well. So I suspect learning the Mac operating system will not be too terrible. I already know about some of the things to watch out for. For example I should not think of Mac OS like windows. Instead I will think of Mac OS like Mac OS. I believe that thinking of an operating system in terms of its own ways and itself will be the best way. This message has nothing useful really in it other than me bragging. Take care all. --- Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto complete errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jumping in with using a Mac
Wow Raul, that's awesome news! You'll love using the Mac. Yeah, there is a bit of a learning curve but that's to be expected no matter what you use. And once you're experienced enough, you can install Windows on it like I have with mine and have the best of both worlds with one computer. -- Shawn Sent from my White MacBook using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
