RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-17 Thread Carolyn 
Thanks, Lisa, that should help. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lisa Belville
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 7:51 PM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Carolyn, I don't use hearing aids, but I've had this issue with VO being at a 
very low volume during a phone call.  What I've started doing is pressing the 
side button three times to turn VO off once the call is picked up at the other 
end, and then immediately press it three times to restart VO.  Usually VO will 
come back on at whatever volume I had it set to when I made the phone call.  
It's faster than trying to find the rotor and not being able to hear VO.


Hope this helps.


Lisa



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/16/2022 6:06 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> I don't know anything to do in settings about it. I will try the rotor, but 
> anything in the past I've tried, even while phone ringing, only turns up the 
> volume for the phone call, and of course, some with the screen, but I can't 
> hear it for the phone call. This problem has been discussed on the Blind 
> Hearing Aid Users' List; I am not the only person having the problem.
>
> I just called our time and temperature, but I could not hear the rotor so 
> that I could get volume up. It is clearly a problem, but if there is a way I 
> can fix it, I'd be glad to. I might give Apple Accessibility a call on it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My update woe for today.
>
> Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
> your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a 
> bug but because of something on your phone.
> Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My update woe for today.
>
> Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone.
>
> I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My update woe for today.
>
> Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
> Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
> volume has gotten turned very low.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My update woe for today.
>
> I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover 
> in the background is way, way soft.
>
> Thanks, got headphones set.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My update woe for today.
>
> Hi,
> I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
> on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
> speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
> that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
> aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. 
> I would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
> anything. If anything, play with the different settings.
>
>
> Feliciano
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> ones who do. -Steve Jobs
>
>
>   On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>   
>   
>
>   
>
>   I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
> Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
> and it seemed better.
>
>   
>
>   So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
> Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
> got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the

Re: My update woe for today.

2022-09-16 Thread Lisa Belville 
Carolyn, I don't use hearing aids, but I've had this issue with VO being 
at a very low volume during a phone call.  What I've started doing is 
pressing the side button three times to turn VO off once the call is 
picked up at the other end, and then immediately press it three times to 
restart VO.  Usually VO will come back on at whatever volume I had it 
set to when I made the phone call.  It's faster than trying to find the 
rotor and not being able to hear VO.



Hope this helps.


Lisa



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/16/2022 6:06 PM, Carolyn wrote:

I don't know anything to do in settings about it. I will try the rotor, but 
anything in the past I've tried, even while phone ringing, only turns up the 
volume for the phone call, and of course, some with the screen, but I can't 
hear it for the phone call. This problem has been discussed on the Blind 
Hearing Aid Users' List; I am not the only person having the problem.

I just called our time and temperature, but I could not hear the rotor so that 
I could get volume up. It is clearly a problem, but if there is a way I can fix 
it, I'd be glad to. I might give Apple Accessibility a call on it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a bug 
but because of something on your phone.
Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone.

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft.

Thanks, got headphones set.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi,
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


Feliciano
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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:





I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better.



So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back.



She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing t

RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-16 Thread Carolyn 
I don't know anything to do in settings about it. I will try the rotor, but 
anything in the past I've tried, even while phone ringing, only turns up the 
volume for the phone call, and of course, some with the screen, but I can't 
hear it for the phone call. This problem has been discussed on the Blind 
Hearing Aid Users' List; I am not the only person having the problem. 

I just called our time and temperature, but I could not hear the rotor so that 
I could get volume up. It is clearly a problem, but if there is a way I can fix 
it, I'd be glad to. I might give Apple Accessibility a call on it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a bug 
but because of something on your phone.
Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone. 

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


Feliciano 
For tech tips and updates: 
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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on

RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a bug 
but because of something on your phone.
Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone. 

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


Feliciano 
For tech tips and updates: 
LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who 
do. -Steve Jobs 


On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16. 

 



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RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-16 Thread Carolyn 
Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone. 

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


Feliciano 
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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16. 

 



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RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


Feliciano 
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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16. 

 



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RE: My update woe for today.

2022-09-15 Thread Carolyn 
I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

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Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16. 

 



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Re: My update woe for today.

2022-09-15 Thread Feliciano Godoy 
Hi,
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.

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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:


I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with Bluetooth to 
my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, and it seemed 
better.

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. Jim 
tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and got a 
magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back.

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back on. That 
did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing the 
phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that I 
did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it.

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a problem 
for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is working 
now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone defaulted to 
Samantha.

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our landline. It 
rang, but, I could not answer it.

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to struggle to 
hear anything on the screen while on a call.

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16.


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My update woe for today.

2022-09-15 Thread Carolyn 
I can't hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call
with Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone
down, brought it back up, and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no
Voiceover. Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I
called Apple Accessibility and got a magically helpful lady
named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we finally
got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my
passcode. Then, VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened
that I had Screen Curtain on, so I turned it off, and Jim
could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to
get it back on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited
quite a long time, before bringing the phone back up. I
think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that I
did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring
it up again. I don't know what would have happened if Jim
hadn't been here and willing to fool with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard
had been a problem for some time, which was the reason that
I turned my phone off. It is working now, even Evan came
back. I've heard some say that their phone defaulted to
Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from
our landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil
have to struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a
call. 

 

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16. 

 

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