RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
It's in Settings -> Accessibility -> voiceOver. It's the last setting.

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From: realman02 via VIPhone 
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Subject: RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

I'm not seeing that under accessibility. Where is it?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

I was having a lot of trouble double tapping under iOS 17 until I adjusted the 
double tap delay under accessibility from 0.25 to 0.30. Now double tapping is 
working as before for me. It may be worth trying.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

> On Sep 20, 2023, at 12:01 PM, Lisa Belville  
> wrote:
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
> cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, 
> double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow the 
> tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate books 
> and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm able to 
> adjust the speed in the usual way.
>
>
> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
> then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>
>
> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
> reinstall the BARD app.
>
>
> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>
>
>
> --
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread realman02 via VIPhone
I'm not seeing that under accessibility. Where is it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

I was having a lot of trouble double tapping under iOS 17 until I adjusted the 
double tap delay under accessibility from 0.25 to 0.30. Now double tapping is 
working as before for me. It may be worth trying. 

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

> On Sep 20, 2023, at 12:01 PM, Lisa Belville  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> 
> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
> cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, 
> double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow the 
> tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate books 
> and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm able to 
> adjust the speed in the usual way.
> 
> 
> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
> then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
> 
> 
> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
> reinstall the BARD app.
> 
> 
> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
> 
> 
> 
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> missktlab1...@frontier.com
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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Lisa Belville
Thanks, Richard.  I will contact them, but I'm doubt if it can be 
resolved any time soon.




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On 9/20/2023 4:45 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

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On Sep 20, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
What's the best way to contact BARD?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/20/2023 11:19 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I can confirm your experience on my 13 pro. I do not know if that is an iOS 17 
issue with the double tap gesture or something with the BARD app. I suspect 
deleting and reinstalling won't solve it. I will write BARD and suggest you do 
as well.


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On Sep 20, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
Hi, all.
I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, double 
tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow the tone to 
be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate books and 
nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm able to 
adjust the speed in the usual way.
Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
reinstall the BARD app.
Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Evan Reese
I will say that the times I've written to BARD Support, they have been 
very responsive.


Evan


On 9/20/2023 5:45 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

You can contact your regional library or write to nlsdownl...@loc.gov


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On Sep 20, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
What's the best way to contact BARD?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/20/2023 11:19 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I can confirm your experience on my 13 pro. I do not know if that is an iOS 17 
issue with the double tap gesture or something with the BARD app. I suspect 
deleting and reinstalling won't solve it. I will write BARD and suggest you do 
as well.


Richard, USA
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(Sent from my iPhone)


On Sep 20, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
Hi, all.
I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, double 
tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow the tone to 
be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate books and 
nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm able to 
adjust the speed in the usual way.
Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
reinstall the BARD app.
Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
You can contact your regional library or write to nlsdownl...@loc.gov


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> On Sep 20, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Lisa Belville  
> wrote:
> What's the best way to contact BARD?
> 
> 
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
> On 9/20/2023 11:19 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I can confirm your experience on my 13 pro. I do not know if that is an iOS 
>> 17 issue with the double tap gesture or something with the BARD app. I 
>> suspect deleting and reinstalling won't solve it. I will write BARD and 
>> suggest you do as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> ——
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Lisa Belville  
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi, all.
>>> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
>>> cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, 
>>> double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow 
>>> the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate 
>>> books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm 
>>> able to adjust the speed in the usual way.
>>> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
>>> then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>>> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
>>> reinstall the BARD app.
>>> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>>> --
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Kimberly
I was having a lot of trouble double tapping under iOS 17 until I adjusted the 
double tap delay under accessibility from 0.25 to 0.30. Now double tapping is 
working as before for me. It may be worth trying. 

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen

> On Sep 20, 2023, at 12:01 PM, Lisa Belville  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> 
> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
> cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, 
> double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow the 
> tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate books 
> and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm able to 
> adjust the speed in the usual way.
> 
> 
> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
> then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
> 
> 
> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
> reinstall the BARD app.
> 
> 
> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Is this related to BARD? If not then I still hear a tone when I hold down the 
side button. It's no louder than it was in IOS 16 though.

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Reese
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Since I wrote that last message, I discovered yet another problem:

I hear absolutely nothing when I hold in the Side button. Not a very quiet 
tone, nothing at all. I turned the phone up and held it up to my ear when I 
held in the Side button and it doesn't play anything. I still hear the 
traditional tone when I let go of the Side button, but nothing when I press and 
hold it.

Evan


On 9/20/2023 12:58 PM, James Bentley wrote:
> There seem to be many problems with IOS 17.  I bet Apple comes out with 
> several quick updates pretty soon to start ironing out the bugs.
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Evan Reese
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>
> James, I know what you mean. I now think I should have waited. It's
> not just the bug in the BARD app. I cannot get any of those per voice
> changes to work in my iPhone 12 either. At least I still have all the
> functionality of the Eloquence I had in ioS 16, but I don't get any of
> the new functionality I'm supposed to get with iOS 17.
>
> I will not be so quick to update next time. I will wait for a bit
> until things are ironed out more.
>
> Evan
>
>
> On 9/20/2023 12:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>> Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
>> come out?
>>
>> Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for 
>> now.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
>> To: V I Phone 
>> Cc: iDevices 
>> Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>>
>> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to
>> iOS
>> 17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
>> Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone
>> menu and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing
>> this on three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on
>> the speed button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.
>>
>>
>> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the
>> settings tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>>
>>
>> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
>> and reinstall the BARD app.
>>
>>
>> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>>
>>
>>

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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I've been running the IOS 17 beta for a while, and I don't feel like I'm 
running into any more issues than I did with IOS 16. I'm also on a few iPhone 
lists and some of the traffic has to do with questions about the new features 
and some has to do with the same handful of issues. There are also new features 
that people may want to take advantage of. Bottom line though is that it should 
all work and people need to decide for themselves if they want to upgrade at 
this time or not.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

I'm on quite a few list that deal with I Phones

My in box is over flowing with people who are having problems with IOS 17.  It 
looks like Apple has just decided to deal with accessibility problems as an 
after thought.

Spend enough R and D to Take care of the main stream consumers and let the 
visually impaired discover and report the problems related to blind users.  
This method saves R and D money.

As we report problems, Apple will gradually fix most of the issues.  But, by 
the time that happens, IOS 18 will be out and we get to start all over again.

James B

James B

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Since I wrote that last message, I discovered yet another problem:

I hear absolutely nothing when I hold in the Side button. Not a very quiet 
tone, nothing at all. I turned the phone up and held it up to my ear when I 
held in the Side button and it doesn't play anything. I still hear the 
traditional tone when I let go of the Side button, but nothing when I press and 
hold it.

Evan


On 9/20/2023 12:58 PM, James Bentley wrote:
> There seem to be many problems with IOS 17.  I bet Apple comes out with 
> several quick updates pretty soon to start ironing out the bugs.
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Evan Reese
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>
> James, I know what you mean. I now think I should have waited. It's
> not just the bug in the BARD app. I cannot get any of those per voice
> changes to work in my iPhone 12 either. At least I still have all the
> functionality of the Eloquence I had in ioS 16, but I don't get any of
> the new functionality I'm supposed to get with iOS 17.
>
> I will not be so quick to update next time. I will wait for a bit
> until things are ironed out more.
>
> Evan
>
>
> On 9/20/2023 12:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>> Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
>> come out?
>>
>> Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for 
>> now.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
>> To: V I Phone 
>> Cc: iDevices 
>> Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>>
>> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to
>> iOS
>> 17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
>> Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone
>> menu and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing
>> this on three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on
>> the speed button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.
>>
>>
>> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the
>> settings tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>>
>>
>> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
>> and reinstall the BARD app.
>>
>>
>> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>>
>>
>>

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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Guess I'm one of the few lucky ones? No problems at my end on iOS17, but I too 
have the BARD Mobile bug you guys are talking about (even though I never change 
the speed or tone), that I double-tap Speed but nothing happens. So I 
definitely think it's a minor incompatibility issue between BARD and iOS17. 
Other than that, BARD is working just fine with iOS17!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 20 sep 2023, a la(s) 12:18 p.m., James Bentley  
> escribió:
> 
> I'm on quite a few list that deal with I Phones
> 
> My in box is over flowing with people who are having problems with IOS 17.  
> It looks like Apple has just decided to deal with accessibility problems as 
> an after thought.
> 
> Spend enough R and D to Take care of the main stream consumers and let the 
> visually impaired discover and report the problems related to blind users.  
> This method saves R and D money.
> 
> As we report problems, Apple will gradually fix most of the issues.  But, by 
> the time that happens, IOS 18 will be out and we get to start all over again.
> 
> James B  
> 
> James B  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
> Reese
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
> 
> Since I wrote that last message, I discovered yet another problem:
> 
> I hear absolutely nothing when I hold in the Side button. Not a very
> quiet tone, nothing at all. I turned the phone up and held it up to my
> ear when I held in the Side button and it doesn't play anything. I still
> hear the traditional tone when I let go of the Side button, but nothing
> when I press and hold it.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
>> On 9/20/2023 12:58 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>> There seem to be many problems with IOS 17.  I bet Apple comes out with 
>> several quick updates pretty soon to start ironing out the bugs.
>> 
>> James B
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
>> Reese
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:55 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>> 
>> James, I know what you mean. I now think I should have waited. It's not
>> just the bug in the BARD app. I cannot get any of those per voice
>> changes to work in my iPhone 12 either. At least I still have all the
>> functionality of the Eloquence I had in ioS 16, but I don't get any of
>> the new functionality I'm supposed to get with iOS 17.
>> 
>> I will not be so quick to update next time. I will wait for a bit until
>> things are ironed out more.
>> 
>> Evan
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/20/2023 12:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>>> Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
>>> come out?
>>> 
>>> Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for 
>>> now.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> 
>>> James B
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
>>> Belville
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
>>> To: V I Phone 
>>> Cc: iDevices 
>>> Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>>> 
>>> Hi, all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
>>> 17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
>>> Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
>>> and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
>>> three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
>>> button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
>>> tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
>>> and reinstall the BARD app.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread James Bentley
I'm on quite a few list that deal with I Phones

My in box is over flowing with people who are having problems with IOS 17.  It 
looks like Apple has just decided to deal with accessibility problems as an 
after thought.

Spend enough R and D to Take care of the main stream consumers and let the 
visually impaired discover and report the problems related to blind users.  
This method saves R and D money.

As we report problems, Apple will gradually fix most of the issues.  But, by 
the time that happens, IOS 18 will be out and we get to start all over again.

James B  

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Since I wrote that last message, I discovered yet another problem:

I hear absolutely nothing when I hold in the Side button. Not a very 
quiet tone, nothing at all. I turned the phone up and held it up to my 
ear when I held in the Side button and it doesn't play anything. I still 
hear the traditional tone when I let go of the Side button, but nothing 
when I press and hold it.

Evan


On 9/20/2023 12:58 PM, James Bentley wrote:
> There seem to be many problems with IOS 17.  I bet Apple comes out with 
> several quick updates pretty soon to start ironing out the bugs.
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
> Reese
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>
> James, I know what you mean. I now think I should have waited. It's not
> just the bug in the BARD app. I cannot get any of those per voice
> changes to work in my iPhone 12 either. At least I still have all the
> functionality of the Eloquence I had in ioS 16, but I don't get any of
> the new functionality I'm supposed to get with iOS 17.
>
> I will not be so quick to update next time. I will wait for a bit until
> things are ironed out more.
>
> Evan
>
>
> On 9/20/2023 12:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>> Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
>> come out?
>>
>> Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for 
>> now.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
>> Belville
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
>> To: V I Phone 
>> Cc: iDevices 
>> Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>>
>> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
>> 17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
>> Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
>> and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
>> three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
>> button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.
>>
>>
>> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
>> tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>>
>>
>> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
>> and reinstall the BARD app.
>>
>>
>> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>>
>>
>>

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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Evan Reese

Since I wrote that last message, I discovered yet another problem:

I hear absolutely nothing when I hold in the Side button. Not a very 
quiet tone, nothing at all. I turned the phone up and held it up to my 
ear when I held in the Side button and it doesn't play anything. I still 
hear the traditional tone when I let go of the Side button, but nothing 
when I press and hold it.


Evan


On 9/20/2023 12:58 PM, James Bentley wrote:

There seem to be many problems with IOS 17.  I bet Apple comes out with several 
quick updates pretty soon to start ironing out the bugs.

James B

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

James, I know what you mean. I now think I should have waited. It's not
just the bug in the BARD app. I cannot get any of those per voice
changes to work in my iPhone 12 either. At least I still have all the
functionality of the Eloquence I had in ioS 16, but I don't get any of
the new functionality I'm supposed to get with iOS 17.

I will not be so quick to update next time. I will wait for a bit until
things are ironed out more.

Evan


On 9/20/2023 12:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:

Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
come out?

Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for now.

Good luck,

James B

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
To: V I Phone 
Cc: iDevices 
Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.


Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.


I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
and reinstall the BARD app.


Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?





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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread James Bentley
Did you or any one try deleting the Bard app and then installing it again?

Good luck,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Well, normally, I don't upgrade so soon, but I read over the list of 
bugs and none of them seem to be ones that would impact me. The tone 
adjustment issue isn't a deal breaker, but I just so happened to start 
an older book that was digitized from a worn out analog copy and really 
needed to clarify the narration as much as possible.  Apparently no one 
needed to do this during the beta process, or there just aren't that 
many VO users testing iOS software.  I know I won't do it because I only 
have one iPhone and no other Apple products.


Looks like an upgrade to the BARD app is in order.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/20/2023 11:48 AM, James Bentley wrote:
> Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
> come out?
>
> Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for now.
>
> Good luck,
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
> Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
> To: V I Phone 
> Cc: iDevices 
> Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
> 17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
> Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
> and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
> three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
> button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.
>
>
> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
> tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>
>
> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
> and reinstall the BARD app.
>
>
> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>
>
>

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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Lisa Belville
Well, normally, I don't upgrade so soon, but I read over the list of 
bugs and none of them seem to be ones that would impact me. The tone 
adjustment issue isn't a deal breaker, but I just so happened to start 
an older book that was digitized from a worn out analog copy and really 
needed to clarify the narration as much as possible.  Apparently no one 
needed to do this during the beta process, or there just aren't that 
many VO users testing iOS software.  I know I won't do it because I only 
have one iPhone and no other Apple products.



Looks like an upgrade to the BARD app is in order.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/20/2023 11:48 AM, James Bentley wrote:

Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
come out?

Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for now.

Good luck,

James B

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
To: V I Phone 
Cc: iDevices 
Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.


Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.


I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
and reinstall the BARD app.


Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?





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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Lisa Belville

What's the best way to contact BARD?



Lisa Belville
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On 9/20/2023 11:19 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I can confirm your experience on my 13 pro. I do not know if that is an iOS 17 
issue with the double tap gesture or something with the BARD app. I suspect 
deleting and reinstalling won't solve it. I will write BARD and suggest you do 
as well.


Richard, USA
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(Sent from my iPhone)


On Sep 20, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, double 
tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow the tone to 
be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate books and 
nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm able to 
adjust the speed in the usual way.


Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.


I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
reinstall the BARD app.


Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?



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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread James Bentley
There seem to be many problems with IOS 17.  I bet Apple comes out with several 
quick updates pretty soon to start ironing out the bugs.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

James, I know what you mean. I now think I should have waited. It's not 
just the bug in the BARD app. I cannot get any of those per voice 
changes to work in my iPhone 12 either. At least I still have all the 
functionality of the Eloquence I had in ioS 16, but I don't get any of 
the new functionality I'm supposed to get with iOS 17.

I will not be so quick to update next time. I will wait for a bit until 
things are ironed out more.

Evan


On 9/20/2023 12:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
> Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
> come out?
>
> Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for now.
>
> Good luck,
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
> Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
> To: V I Phone 
> Cc: iDevices 
> Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
> 17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
> Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
> and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
> three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
> button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.
>
>
> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
> tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>
>
> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
> and reinstall the BARD app.
>
>
> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>
>
>

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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Evan Reese
James, I know what you mean. I now think I should have waited. It's not 
just the bug in the BARD app. I cannot get any of those per voice 
changes to work in my iPhone 12 either. At least I still have all the 
functionality of the Eloquence I had in ioS 16, but I don't get any of 
the new functionality I'm supposed to get with iOS 17.


I will not be so quick to update next time. I will wait for a bit until 
things are ironed out more.


Evan


On 9/20/2023 12:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:

Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
come out?

Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for now.

Good luck,

James B

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
To: V I Phone 
Cc: iDevices 
Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.


Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.


I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
and reinstall the BARD app.


Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?





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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Evan Reese

I can confirm this as well on my iPhone 12.

I double tap on the Speed button within a book, and while it clicks, I 
do not hear the tone. Nothing actually happens. It does not change from 
Speed to Tone.


Evan



On 9/20/2023 12:19 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I can confirm your experience on my 13 pro. I do not know if that is an iOS 17 
issue with the double tap gesture or something with the BARD app. I suspect 
deleting and reinstalling won't solve it. I will write BARD and suggest you do 
as well.


Richard, USA
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(Sent from my iPhone)


On Sep 20, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, double 
tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow the tone to 
be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate books and 
nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm able to 
adjust the speed in the usual way.


Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.


I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
reinstall the BARD app.


Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?



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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread James Bentley
Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
come out?

Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for now.

Good luck,

James B  

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Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
To: V I Phone 
Cc: iDevices 
Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 
17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  
Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu 
and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on 
three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed 
button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.


Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings 
tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.


I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete 
and reinstall the BARD app.


Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?



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Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
I can confirm your experience on my 13 pro. I do not know if that is an iOS 17 
issue with the double tap gesture or something with the BARD app. I suspect 
deleting and reinstalling won't solve it. I will write BARD and suggest you do 
as well. 


Richard, USA 
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(Sent from my iPhone)

> On Sep 20, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> 
> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 17 I 
> cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  Normally, 
> double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu and allow the 
> tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on three separate books 
> and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed button, though I'm able to 
> adjust the speed in the usual way.
> 
> 
> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings tab, 
> then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
> 
> 
> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete and 
> reinstall the BARD app.
> 
> 
> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
> 
> 
> 
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Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

2023-09-20 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 
17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  
Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu 
and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on 
three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed 
button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.



Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings 
tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.



I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete 
and reinstall the BARD app.



Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?



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