Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2014-02-03 Thread Karsten Bruun
Hi

I have found out that the colon actually is done by making two small lines 
under each other on the screen.
I am not perfect in english, but if you make the two lines straight 
vertically under each other you never know if it will be a colon og a 
semi-colon.
But if you make them go a little to the left it will always be a semicolon, 
logical for me because the comma in the button of the semi-colon is usually 
handwritten as at line that goes a little down to the left. If toy make the 
two lines under each other go a little to the right it will always be a 
colon.

Karsten


Den tirsdag den 24. september 2013 17.21.53 UTC+2 skrev Thom3of5:

 Hey Cara,

 I found the colon for you.

 Like Ron said, you have to do this quickly. Make the two dots, but make 
 sure that one of them is on the top half and one is on the bottom half.

 *It does not work all of the time, but about a third of the time.*

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 *Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 3:27 PM
 *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

  

 Hi Ron,

  

 yep, tried that already. Actually that was the first thing I tried.

  

 It makes the double-tap sound and a period is printed.

  

 Thanks so much though for the suggestion.

  

 Smiles,

  

 Cara :)

 On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Ron Pelletier 
 ron.pe...@sympatico.cajavascript: 
 wrote:

  

 Hi Cara,

  

 Well, the colen works the same way.  Just put 2 periods one above the 
 other but you have to do it very quickly otherwise, only one will appear.

  

 Ron  Danvers

  

  

 *Falling down is part of LIFE...*

 *Getting back up is LIVING...*

  

 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com javascript:[mailto:vip...@javascript:
 googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cara Quinn
 *Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 3:40 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

  

 Hi Ron,

  

 I think you're thinking of a semicolon.

  

 I was looking for a colon which is two dots on top of each other as you 
 know. :)

  

 I did figure out how to get this consistently now so thanks to you all for 
 help!

  

 You rock!

  

 Smiles,

  

 Cara :)

 On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Ron Pelletier 
 ron.pellet...@sympatico.cajavascript: 
 wrote:

  

 Hi Cara,

  

 If you tap the screen quickly and follow it quickly with a comma under it, 
 it works every time.  That’s why I don’t understand why the comma doesn’t 
 work.

  

 Ron  Danvers

  

 *Falling down is part of LIFE...*

 *Getting back up is LIVING...*

  

 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com javascript:[mailto:vip...@javascript:
 googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cara Quinn
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:32 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

  

 Okay Sieghard, do tell!

  

 How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period 
 right after I touch the screen the second time.

  

 thanks,

  

 Cara :)

 On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.cajavascript: 
 wrote:

  

 Hello,

  

 I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been 
 practicing a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write 
 which I do since I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become 
 a rather efficient method of text input. I actually don’t understand why 
 Apple does not make this available to all iPhone users instead of 
 restricting it to Voiceover users.

 They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way 
 if you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one 
 could have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to 
 it, but maybe they have their reasons.

  

 Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best 
 insert a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area 
 and I have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like 
 a period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ 
 symbol, underscore etc.

  

 I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal 
 line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

  

 I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no 
 idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this 
 as a “vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually 
 inserts a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

  

 Best regards,

 Sieghard

  

  

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RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

2013-09-25 Thread Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
What's the trrick for writing a comma that doesn't turn into a
parenthesis?

 

  _  

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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

 

I manage the colon by drawing a quick short vertical lines one under
another. Frankly. drawing actualy 2 dots don'd seem to work for me at all.

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 23.09.2013 um 09:00 schrieb Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com:

Hi Sieghard,

 

when I swipe down from a period, I get the number series:

 

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510

 

Oh, sorry that was after I drew a circle! lol! Oops. :)

 

Anyway, I just figured out that I can get a colon consistently by doing the
following:

 

. Do a very small swipe (I did left to right)

 

. Do a single tap some distance above it

 

YOu can also alternate the very small swipe and tap as to which one you do
first.

 

I do mean very small. For some reason this seems to really make a difference
and to me at least, is very helpful in consistently getting the colon.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Smiles,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 

Hi Cara,

 

OK, here is the trick:

 

Make sure you hold the phone behind your back, face in a northwesterly
direction and then lift up one leg. Now tap the screen simultaneously with
both pinky fingers 1 and a quarter inches apart and at the same time spin
around in a circle on the one leg you are standing on. It doesn't even
matter if you stand on your left or right leg, it just works *smile*.

 

OK, joking aside, following Barbara's instructions regarding the comma that
is pretty easy now, do a period, a quick swipe down with 2 fingers to select
the comma which is next in the list and then a 2-finger swipe right for a
space.

 

Now, one would think a colon is easy and when I practiced in the email body
field and tried various symbols, I was able to do a colon a few times
successfully just by very quickly tapping the screen once, one tap towards
the top and a second tap towards the bottom. I experimented more with this
now and it seems that it is slightly more successful when the two taps are
farther apart, but then again other times I tapped fairly far apart and got
a period every time.

 

A Quotation mark seems to be somewhat more consistent, just draw a vertical
line and then once again very quickly draw a second one a bit further to one
side, I don't think it matters if you draw one and then move right for the
next or vice versa.

 

I thought also one should be able to pick the colon from a list just like
the comma. The comma is consistently there if I do a period and then swipe
down once with 2 fingers. However, there are only 5 symbols in this list if
I do a single tap for a period:

 

Period

Comma

Semicolon

Apostrophe

Quotation Mark

 

I thought Apple did what Fleksy did and grouped similar symbols into groups
so basically you draw one symbol and depending on what you draw you get a
group of 5 or 6 other symbols, for example, draw a Question Mark and get an
exclamation mark, a hyphen, underscore etc. Draw a Dollar sign and get other
currency signs and so on.

 

At first it does appear it is like this, but if I repeat something like
writing a word and then drawing a question mark which I can do pretty
consistently, I can swipe down and each time it seems I do this or erase and
type another word followed by a question mark I swipe down to find different
symbols. Only one where there is consistency is with the period, comma,
semicolon, apostrophe and quotation marks.

 

Another interesting observation is that if you go to numbers and write a
number, for example a 1, if you then do a 2-finger swipe down you get
seemingly random but repeating numbers and it appears there are always 8
numbers. For example, I wrote a 1, then I swipe down with 2 fingers
repeatedly and I get this:

 

19587630

 

If I keep on swiping it repeats over and over. Now type a 2 and you get
another 8 digit number, but if you do this on different occasions it appears
you get a different number, e.g. type a 1 and you may not get 19587630 next
time but another 8 digits.

 

I wonder if they do offer selections with a 2-finger swipe down, then why
not make it consistent, e.g. you type a 1 and then you swipe down and get 2,
3, 4,5 etc.

 

I think this handwriting feature has great potential and I will inform Rob
from the Today in iOS Podcast about this feature since it does not appear to
be available for sighted users. I think this could and should become
mainstream and Apple needs to develop this into the best and most efficient
handwriting recognition application out there. I bet there might be
jailbreak apps which allow people to use handwriting.

 

I am normally fairly good at recognizing patterns and methods behind

Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

2013-09-25 Thread Gadget Girl
Hello.  From the punctuation mode, put one finger on the screen to make a 
period.  Then swipe up or down with two fingers to toggle through this 
selections. If you swipe down, the next selection should be a comma.  

Regards,
Anita 
also known as Gadget Girl.  Sent via my Apple gadget.  Apple, Take a bite, 
Express yourself!

On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
d...@lifedesigns-inc.com wrote:

 What’s the trrick for writing a comma that doesn’t turn into a 
 parenthesis?
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Dionesque
 Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations
  
 I manage the colon by drawing a quick short vertical lines one under another. 
 Frankly. drawing actualy 2 dots don'd seem to work for me at all.
 
 Von meinem iPhone gesendet
 
 Am 23.09.2013 um 09:00 schrieb Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Sieghard,
  
 when I swipe down from a period, I get the number series:
  
 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510
  
 Oh, sorry that was after I drew a circle! lol! Oops… :)
  
 Anyway, I just figured out that I can get a colon consistently by doing the 
 following:
  
 • Do a very small swipe (I did left to right)
  
 • Do a single tap some distance above it
  
 YOu can also alternate the very small swipe and tap as to which one you do 
 first.
  
 I do mean very small. For some reason this seems to really make a difference 
 and to me at least, is very helpful in consistently getting the colon.
  
 Hope this helps!
  
 Smiles,
  
 Cara :)
 On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
  
 Hi Cara,
  
 OK, here is the trick:
  
 Make sure you hold the phone behind your back, face in a northwesterly 
 direction and then lift up one leg. Now tap the screen simultaneously with 
 both pinky fingers 1 and a quarter inches apart and at the same time spin 
 around in a circle on the one leg you are standing on. It doesn’t even 
 matter if you stand on your left or right leg, “it just works” *smile*.
  
 OK, joking aside, following Barbara’s instructions regarding the comma that 
 is pretty easy now, do a period, a quick swipe down with 2 fingers to select 
 the comma which is next in the list and then a 2-finger swipe right for a 
 space.
  
 Now, one would think a colon is easy and when I practiced in the email body 
 field and tried various symbols, I was able to do a colon a few times 
 successfully just by very quickly tapping the screen once, one tap towards 
 the top and a second tap towards the bottom. I experimented more with this 
 now and it seems that it is slightly more successful when the two taps are 
 farther apart, but then again other times I tapped fairly far apart and got 
 a period every time.
  
 A Quotation mark seems to be somewhat more consistent, just draw a vertical 
 line and then once again very quickly draw a second one a bit further to one 
 side, I don’t think it matters if you draw one and then move right for the 
 next or vice versa.
  
 I thought also one should be able to pick the colon from a list just like 
 the comma. The comma is consistently there if I do a period and then swipe 
 down once with 2 fingers. However, there are only 5 symbols in this list if 
 I do a single tap for a period:
  
 Period
 Comma
 Semicolon
 Apostrophe
 Quotation Mark
  
 I thought Apple did what Fleksy did and grouped similar symbols into groups 
 so basically you draw one symbol and depending on what you draw you get a 
 group of 5 or 6 other symbols, for example, draw a Question Mark and get an 
 exclamation mark, a hyphen, underscore etc. Draw a Dollar sign and get other 
 currency signs and so on.
  
 At first it does appear it is like this, but if I repeat something like 
 writing a word and then drawing a question mark which I can do pretty 
 consistently, I can swipe down and each time it seems I do this or erase and 
 type another word followed by a question mark I swipe down to find different 
 symbols. Only one where there is consistency is with the period, comma, 
 semicolon, apostrophe and quotation marks.
  
 Another interesting observation is that if you go to numbers and write a 
 number, for example a 1, if you then do a 2-finger swipe down you get 
 seemingly random but repeating numbers and it appears there are always 8 
 numbers. For example, I wrote a 1, then I swipe down with 2 fingers 
 repeatedly and I get this:
  
 19587630
  
 If I keep on swiping it repeats over and over. Now type a 2 and you get 
 another 8 digit number, but if you do this on different occasions it appears 
 you get a different number, e.g. type a 1 and you may not get 19587630 next 
 time but another 8 digits.
  
 I wonder if they do offer selections with a 2-finger swipe down, then why 
 not make it consistent, e.g. you type a 1 and then you swipe down and get 2, 
 3, 4,5 etc

RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-24 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Cara,

 

Try doing your 2 dots a bit farther apart and possibly a little slower than
you are doing.  I don't understand why it works for me.  Maybe because I
still have my IP 4 which is slower?  Could that be the reason? You know
these technical things better than I do.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Hi Ron,

 

yep, tried that already. Actually that was the first thing I tried.

 

It makes the double-tap sound and a period is printed.

 

Thanks so much though for the suggestion.

 

Smiles,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
wrote:

 

Hi Cara,

 

Well, the colen works the same way.  Just put 2 periods one above the other
but you have to do it very quickly otherwise, only one will appear.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@ http://googlegroups.com/
googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:40 AM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Hi Ron,

 

I think you're thinking of a semicolon.

 

I was looking for a colon which is two dots on top of each other as you
know. :)

 

I did figure out how to get this consistently now so thanks to you all for
help!

 

You rock!

 

Smiles,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Ron Pelletier 
mailto:ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 

Hi Cara,

 

If you tap the screen quickly and follow it quickly with a comma under it,
it works every time.  That's why I don't understand why the comma doesn't
work.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@ http://googlegroups.com/
googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:32 AM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Okay Sieghard, do tell!

 

How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period
right after I touch the screen the second time.

 

thanks,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  mailto:siegh...@live.ca
siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 

Hello,

 

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

 

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

 

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

 

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-24 Thread Thom Spittle
Hey Cara,

I found the colon for you.

Like Ron said, you have to do this quickly. Make the two dots, but make sure
that one of them is on the top half and one is on the bottom half.

It does not work all of the time, but about a third of the time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Hi Ron,

 

yep, tried that already. Actually that was the first thing I tried.

 

It makes the double-tap sound and a period is printed.

 

Thanks so much though for the suggestion.

 

Smiles,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
wrote:

 

Hi Cara,

 

Well, the colen works the same way.  Just put 2 periods one above the other
but you have to do it very quickly otherwise, only one will appear.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@ http://googlegroups.com/
googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:40 AM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Hi Ron,

 

I think you're thinking of a semicolon.

 

I was looking for a colon which is two dots on top of each other as you
know. :)

 

I did figure out how to get this consistently now so thanks to you all for
help!

 

You rock!

 

Smiles,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Ron Pelletier 
mailto:ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 

Hi Cara,

 

If you tap the screen quickly and follow it quickly with a comma under it,
it works every time.  That's why I don't understand why the comma doesn't
work.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@ http://googlegroups.com/
googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:32 AM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Okay Sieghard, do tell!

 

How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period
right after I touch the screen the second time.

 

thanks,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  mailto:siegh...@live.ca
siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 

Hello,

 

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

 

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

 

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

 

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

2013-09-24 Thread Gabriele Battaglia

Hi all.
Is there anyway to type a return character?
Gabriel.

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

2013-09-24 Thread Gadget Girl
A three finger swipe to the right inserts a new line.
.

Regards,
Anita 
also known as Gadget Girl.  Sent via my Apple gadget.  Apple, Take a bite, 
Express yourself!

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 Is there anyway to type a return character?
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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

2013-09-24 Thread Dionesque
I manage the colon by drawing a quick short vertical lines one under another. 
Frankly. drawing actualy 2 dots don'd seem to work for me at all.

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

 Am 23.09.2013 um 09:00 schrieb Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Sieghard,
 
 when I swipe down from a period, I get the number series:
 
 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510
 
 Oh, sorry that was after I drew a circle! lol! Oops… :)
 
 Anyway, I just figured out that I can get a colon consistently by doing the 
 following:
 
 • Do a very small swipe (I did left to right)
 
 • Do a single tap some distance above it
 
 YOu can also alternate the very small swipe and tap as to which one you do 
 first.
 
 I do mean very small. For some reason this seems to really make a difference 
 and to me at least, is very helpful in consistently getting the colon.
 
 Hope this helps!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Cara,
  
 OK, here is the trick:
  
 Make sure you hold the phone behind your back, face in a northwesterly 
 direction and then lift up one leg. Now tap the screen simultaneously with 
 both pinky fingers 1 and a quarter inches apart and at the same time spin 
 around in a circle on the one leg you are standing on. It doesn’t even matter 
 if you stand on your left or right leg, “it just works” *smile*.
  
 OK, joking aside, following Barbara’s instructions regarding the comma that 
 is pretty easy now, do a period, a quick swipe down with 2 fingers to select 
 the comma which is next in the list and then a 2-finger swipe right for a 
 space.
  
 Now, one would think a colon is easy and when I practiced in the email body 
 field and tried various symbols, I was able to do a colon a few times 
 successfully just by very quickly tapping the screen once, one tap towards 
 the top and a second tap towards the bottom. I experimented more with this 
 now and it seems that it is slightly more successful when the two taps are 
 farther apart, but then again other times I tapped fairly far apart and got a 
 period every time.
  
 A Quotation mark seems to be somewhat more consistent, just draw a vertical 
 line and then once again very quickly draw a second one a bit further to one 
 side, I don’t think it matters if you draw one and then move right for the 
 next or vice versa.
  
 I thought also one should be able to pick the colon from a list just like the 
 comma. The comma is consistently there if I do a period and then swipe down 
 once with 2 fingers. However, there are only 5 symbols in this list if I do a 
 single tap for a period:
  
 Period
 Comma
 Semicolon
 Apostrophe
 Quotation Mark
  
 I thought Apple did what Fleksy did and grouped similar symbols into groups 
 so basically you draw one symbol and depending on what you draw you get a 
 group of 5 or 6 other symbols, for example, draw a Question Mark and get an 
 exclamation mark, a hyphen, underscore etc. Draw a Dollar sign and get other 
 currency signs and so on.
  
 At first it does appear it is like this, but if I repeat something like 
 writing a word and then drawing a question mark which I can do pretty 
 consistently, I can swipe down and each time it seems I do this or erase and 
 type another word followed by a question mark I swipe down to find different 
 symbols. Only one where there is consistency is with the period, comma, 
 semicolon, apostrophe and quotation marks.
  
 Another interesting observation is that if you go to numbers and write a 
 number, for example a 1, if you then do a 2-finger swipe down you get 
 seemingly random but repeating numbers and it appears there are always 8 
 numbers. For example, I wrote a 1, then I swipe down with 2 fingers 
 repeatedly and I get this:
  
 19587630
  
 If I keep on swiping it repeats over and over. Now type a 2 and you get 
 another 8 digit number, but if you do this on different occasions it appears 
 you get a different number, e.g. type a 1 and you may not get 19587630 next 
 time but another 8 digits.
  
 I wonder if they do offer selections with a 2-finger swipe down, then why not 
 make it consistent, e.g. you type a 1 and then you swipe down and get 2, 3, 
 4,5 etc.
  
 I think this handwriting feature has great potential and I will inform Rob 
 from the Today in iOS Podcast about this feature since it does not appear to 
 be available for sighted users. I think this could and should become 
 mainstream and Apple needs to develop this into the best and most efficient 
 handwriting recognition application out there. I bet there might be jailbreak 
 apps which allow people to use handwriting.
  
 I am normally fairly good at recognizing patterns and methods behind the 
 application of stuff, but this does leave me a bit baffled and wondering if 
 this is something that was implemented but is just not fully thought through 
 or if I am totally missing something. If Apple can do this, I wonder how long 
 it will be before 

Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

2013-09-23 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Sieghard,

when I swipe down from a period, I get the number series:

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510

Oh, sorry that was after I drew a circle! lol! Oops… :)

Anyway, I just figured out that I can get a colon consistently by doing the 
following:

• Do a very small swipe (I did left to right)

• Do a single tap some distance above it

YOu can also alternate the very small swipe and tap as to which one you do 
first.

I do mean very small. For some reason this seems to really make a difference 
and to me at least, is very helpful in consistently getting the colon.

Hope this helps!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Cara,
 
OK, here is the trick:
 
Make sure you hold the phone behind your back, face in a northwesterly 
direction and then lift up one leg. Now tap the screen simultaneously with both 
pinky fingers 1 and a quarter inches apart and at the same time spin around in 
a circle on the one leg you are standing on. It doesn’t even matter if you 
stand on your left or right leg, “it just works” *smile*.
 
OK, joking aside, following Barbara’s instructions regarding the comma that is 
pretty easy now, do a period, a quick swipe down with 2 fingers to select the 
comma which is next in the list and then a 2-finger swipe right for a space.
 
Now, one would think a colon is easy and when I practiced in the email body 
field and tried various symbols, I was able to do a colon a few times 
successfully just by very quickly tapping the screen once, one tap towards the 
top and a second tap towards the bottom. I experimented more with this now and 
it seems that it is slightly more successful when the two taps are farther 
apart, but then again other times I tapped fairly far apart and got a period 
every time.
 
A Quotation mark seems to be somewhat more consistent, just draw a vertical 
line and then once again very quickly draw a second one a bit further to one 
side, I don’t think it matters if you draw one and then move right for the next 
or vice versa.
 
I thought also one should be able to pick the colon from a list just like the 
comma. The comma is consistently there if I do a period and then swipe down 
once with 2 fingers. However, there are only 5 symbols in this list if I do a 
single tap for a period:
 
Period
Comma
Semicolon
Apostrophe
Quotation Mark
 
I thought Apple did what Fleksy did and grouped similar symbols into groups so 
basically you draw one symbol and depending on what you draw you get a group of 
5 or 6 other symbols, for example, draw a Question Mark and get an exclamation 
mark, a hyphen, underscore etc. Draw a Dollar sign and get other currency signs 
and so on.
 
At first it does appear it is like this, but if I repeat something like writing 
a word and then drawing a question mark which I can do pretty consistently, I 
can swipe down and each time it seems I do this or erase and type another word 
followed by a question mark I swipe down to find different symbols. Only one 
where there is consistency is with the period, comma, semicolon, apostrophe and 
quotation marks.
 
Another interesting observation is that if you go to numbers and write a 
number, for example a 1, if you then do a 2-finger swipe down you get seemingly 
random but repeating numbers and it appears there are always 8 numbers. For 
example, I wrote a 1, then I swipe down with 2 fingers repeatedly and I get 
this:
 
19587630
 
If I keep on swiping it repeats over and over. Now type a 2 and you get another 
8 digit number, but if you do this on different occasions it appears you get a 
different number, e.g. type a 1 and you may not get 19587630 next time but 
another 8 digits.
 
I wonder if they do offer selections with a 2-finger swipe down, then why not 
make it consistent, e.g. you type a 1 and then you swipe down and get 2, 3, 4,5 
etc.
 
I think this handwriting feature has great potential and I will inform Rob from 
the Today in iOS Podcast about this feature since it does not appear to be 
available for sighted users. I think this could and should become mainstream 
and Apple needs to develop this into the best and most efficient handwriting 
recognition application out there. I bet there might be jailbreak apps which 
allow people to use handwriting.
 
I am normally fairly good at recognizing patterns and methods behind the 
application of stuff, but this does leave me a bit baffled and wondering if 
this is something that was implemented but is just not fully thought through or 
if I am totally missing something. If Apple can do this, I wonder how long it 
will be before braille input on the touch screen is something they adopt as 
well, hopefully they approach developers of some of the apps people use now and 
like instead of doing it themselves, taking it away from these people and 
possibly do it not as good. Same goes for something like Fleksy.
 
When you look at all of these apps and technologies like SIRI/voice 

Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

2013-09-23 Thread RobH.
That's Pi,  interesting, but not what you wanted.
- Original Message - 
From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations


Hi Sieghard,

when I swipe down from a period, I get the number series:

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510

Oh, sorry that was after I drew a circle! lol! Oops… :)

Anyway, I just figured out that I can get a colon consistently by doing the 
following:

• Do a very small swipe (I did left to right)

• Do a single tap some distance above it

YOu can also alternate the very small swipe and tap as to which one you do 
first.

I do mean very small. For some reason this seems to really make a difference 
and to me at least, is very helpful in consistently getting the colon.

Hope this helps!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Cara,

OK, here is the trick:

Make sure you hold the phone behind your back, face in a northwesterly 
direction and then lift up one leg. Now tap the screen simultaneously with 
both pinky fingers 1 and a quarter inches apart and at the same time spin 
around in a circle on the one leg you are standing on. It doesn’t even 
matter if you stand on your left or right leg, “it just works” *smile*.

OK, joking aside, following Barbara’s instructions regarding the comma that 
is pretty easy now, do a period, a quick swipe down with 2 fingers to select 
the comma which is next in the list and then a 2-finger swipe right for a 
space.

Now, one would think a colon is easy and when I practiced in the email body 
field and tried various symbols, I was able to do a colon a few times 
successfully just by very quickly tapping the screen once, one tap towards 
the top and a second tap towards the bottom. I experimented more with this 
now and it seems that it is slightly more successful when the two taps are 
farther apart, but then again other times I tapped fairly far apart and got 
a period every time.

A Quotation mark seems to be somewhat more consistent, just draw a vertical 
line and then once again very quickly draw a second one a bit further to one 
side, I don’t think it matters if you draw one and then move right for the 
next or vice versa.

I thought also one should be able to pick the colon from a list just like 
the comma. The comma is consistently there if I do a period and then swipe 
down once with 2 fingers. However, there are only 5 symbols in this list if 
I do a single tap for a period:

Period
Comma
Semicolon
Apostrophe
Quotation Mark

I thought Apple did what Fleksy did and grouped similar symbols into groups 
so basically you draw one symbol and depending on what you draw you get a 
group of 5 or 6 other symbols, for example, draw a Question Mark and get an 
exclamation mark, a hyphen, underscore etc. Draw a Dollar sign and get other 
currency signs and so on.

At first it does appear it is like this, but if I repeat something like 
writing a word and then drawing a question mark which I can do pretty 
consistently, I can swipe down and each time it seems I do this or erase and 
type another word followed by a question mark I swipe down to find different 
symbols. Only one where there is consistency is with the period, comma, 
semicolon, apostrophe and quotation marks.

Another interesting observation is that if you go to numbers and write a 
number, for example a 1, if you then do a 2-finger swipe down you get 
seemingly random but repeating numbers and it appears there are always 8 
numbers. For example, I wrote a 1, then I swipe down with 2 fingers 
repeatedly and I get this:

19587630

If I keep on swiping it repeats over and over. Now type a 2 and you get 
another 8 digit number, but if you do this on different occasions it appears 
you get a different number, e.g. type a 1 and you may not get 19587630 next 
time but another 8 digits.

I wonder if they do offer selections with a 2-finger swipe down, then why 
not make it consistent, e.g. you type a 1 and then you swipe down and get 2, 
3, 4,5 etc.

I think this handwriting feature has great potential and I will inform Rob 
from the Today in iOS Podcast about this feature since it does not appear to 
be available for sighted users. I think this could and should become 
mainstream and Apple needs to develop this into the best and most efficient 
handwriting recognition application out there. I bet there might be 
jailbreak apps which allow people to use handwriting.

I am normally fairly good at recognizing patterns and methods behind the 
application of stuff, but this does leave me a bit baffled and wondering if 
this is something that was implemented but is just not fully thought through 
or if I am totally missing something. If Apple can do this, I wonder how 
long it will be before braille input on the touch screen is something they 
adopt as well, hopefully they approach developers

Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-23 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Ron,

I think you're thinking of a semicolon.

I was looking for a colon which is two dots on top of each other as you know. :)

I did figure out how to get this consistently now so thanks to you all for help!

You rock!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:

Hi Cara,
 
If you tap the screen quickly and follow it quickly with a comma under it, it 
works every time.  That’s why I don’t understand why the comma doesn’t work.
 
Ron  Danvers
 
Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 
Okay Sieghard, do tell!
 
How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period right 
after I touch the screen the second time.
 
thanks,
 
Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
Hello,
 
I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing a 
bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since I 
lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make this 
available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover users.
They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if you 
added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could have 
simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but maybe 
they have their reasons.
 
Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
underscore etc.
 
I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
across it always interprets it as an underscore.
 
I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
“vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a right 
parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
 
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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

2013-09-23 Thread Cara Quinn
HI Rob, yes, this was of course, a joke! :)

Glad you caught it.

However my ability to consistently get the colon to print is not. :)

Glad this works now!…

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 23, 2013, at 12:10 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

That's Pi,  interesting, but not what you wanted.
- Original Message - 
From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations


Hi Sieghard,

when I swipe down from a period, I get the number series:

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510

Oh, sorry that was after I drew a circle! lol! Oops… :)

Anyway, I just figured out that I can get a colon consistently by doing the 
following:

• Do a very small swipe (I did left to right)

• Do a single tap some distance above it

YOu can also alternate the very small swipe and tap as to which one you do 
first.

I do mean very small. For some reason this seems to really make a difference 
and to me at least, is very helpful in consistently getting the colon.

Hope this helps!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Cara,

OK, here is the trick:

Make sure you hold the phone behind your back, face in a northwesterly 
direction and then lift up one leg. Now tap the screen simultaneously with 
both pinky fingers 1 and a quarter inches apart and at the same time spin 
around in a circle on the one leg you are standing on. It doesn’t even 
matter if you stand on your left or right leg, “it just works” *smile*.

OK, joking aside, following Barbara’s instructions regarding the comma that 
is pretty easy now, do a period, a quick swipe down with 2 fingers to select 
the comma which is next in the list and then a 2-finger swipe right for a 
space.

Now, one would think a colon is easy and when I practiced in the email body 
field and tried various symbols, I was able to do a colon a few times 
successfully just by very quickly tapping the screen once, one tap towards 
the top and a second tap towards the bottom. I experimented more with this 
now and it seems that it is slightly more successful when the two taps are 
farther apart, but then again other times I tapped fairly far apart and got 
a period every time.

A Quotation mark seems to be somewhat more consistent, just draw a vertical 
line and then once again very quickly draw a second one a bit further to one 
side, I don’t think it matters if you draw one and then move right for the 
next or vice versa.

I thought also one should be able to pick the colon from a list just like 
the comma. The comma is consistently there if I do a period and then swipe 
down once with 2 fingers. However, there are only 5 symbols in this list if 
I do a single tap for a period:

Period
Comma
Semicolon
Apostrophe
Quotation Mark

I thought Apple did what Fleksy did and grouped similar symbols into groups 
so basically you draw one symbol and depending on what you draw you get a 
group of 5 or 6 other symbols, for example, draw a Question Mark and get an 
exclamation mark, a hyphen, underscore etc. Draw a Dollar sign and get other 
currency signs and so on.

At first it does appear it is like this, but if I repeat something like 
writing a word and then drawing a question mark which I can do pretty 
consistently, I can swipe down and each time it seems I do this or erase and 
type another word followed by a question mark I swipe down to find different 
symbols. Only one where there is consistency is with the period, comma, 
semicolon, apostrophe and quotation marks.

Another interesting observation is that if you go to numbers and write a 
number, for example a 1, if you then do a 2-finger swipe down you get 
seemingly random but repeating numbers and it appears there are always 8 
numbers. For example, I wrote a 1, then I swipe down with 2 fingers 
repeatedly and I get this:

19587630

If I keep on swiping it repeats over and over. Now type a 2 and you get 
another 8 digit number, but if you do this on different occasions it appears 
you get a different number, e.g. type a 1 and you may not get 19587630 next 
time but another 8 digits.

I wonder if they do offer selections with a 2-finger swipe down, then why 
not make it consistent, e.g. you type a 1 and then you swipe down and get 2, 
3, 4,5 etc.

I think this handwriting feature has great potential and I will inform Rob 
from the Today in iOS Podcast about this feature since it does not appear to 
be available for sighted users. I think this could and should become 
mainstream and Apple needs to develop this into the best and most efficient 
handwriting recognition application out there. I bet there might be 
jailbreak apps which allow people to use handwriting.

I am normally fairly good at recognizing patterns and methods behind the 
application of stuff, but this does leave me a bit baffled and wondering if 
this is something

RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

2013-09-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Cara,

 

OK, seriously, these numbers you get if you draw one number and then swipe
down must totally have a secret meaning, right? This screams conspiracy
*smile*. I think they are, hmm. maybe nuclear launch codes?

 

 

Happy Monday,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma, colon and other observations

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

when I swipe down from a period, I get the number series:

 

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510

 

Oh, sorry that was after I drew a circle! lol! Oops. :)

 

Anyway, I just figured out that I can get a colon consistently by doing the
following:

 

. Do a very small swipe (I did left to right)

 

. Do a single tap some distance above it

 

YOu can also alternate the very small swipe and tap as to which one you do
first.

 

I do mean very small. For some reason this seems to really make a difference
and to me at least, is very helpful in consistently getting the colon.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Smiles,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 

Hi Cara,

 

OK, here is the trick:

 

Make sure you hold the phone behind your back, face in a northwesterly
direction and then lift up one leg. Now tap the screen simultaneously with
both pinky fingers 1 and a quarter inches apart and at the same time spin
around in a circle on the one leg you are standing on. It doesn't even
matter if you stand on your left or right leg, it just works *smile*.

 

OK, joking aside, following Barbara's instructions regarding the comma that
is pretty easy now, do a period, a quick swipe down with 2 fingers to select
the comma which is next in the list and then a 2-finger swipe right for a
space.

 

Now, one would think a colon is easy and when I practiced in the email body
field and tried various symbols, I was able to do a colon a few times
successfully just by very quickly tapping the screen once, one tap towards
the top and a second tap towards the bottom. I experimented more with this
now and it seems that it is slightly more successful when the two taps are
farther apart, but then again other times I tapped fairly far apart and got
a period every time.

 

A Quotation mark seems to be somewhat more consistent, just draw a vertical
line and then once again very quickly draw a second one a bit further to one
side, I don't think it matters if you draw one and then move right for the
next or vice versa.

 

I thought also one should be able to pick the colon from a list just like
the comma. The comma is consistently there if I do a period and then swipe
down once with 2 fingers. However, there are only 5 symbols in this list if
I do a single tap for a period:

 

Period

Comma

Semicolon

Apostrophe

Quotation Mark

 

I thought Apple did what Fleksy did and grouped similar symbols into groups
so basically you draw one symbol and depending on what you draw you get a
group of 5 or 6 other symbols, for example, draw a Question Mark and get an
exclamation mark, a hyphen, underscore etc. Draw a Dollar sign and get other
currency signs and so on.

 

At first it does appear it is like this, but if I repeat something like
writing a word and then drawing a question mark which I can do pretty
consistently, I can swipe down and each time it seems I do this or erase and
type another word followed by a question mark I swipe down to find different
symbols. Only one where there is consistency is with the period, comma,
semicolon, apostrophe and quotation marks.

 

Another interesting observation is that if you go to numbers and write a
number, for example a 1, if you then do a 2-finger swipe down you get
seemingly random but repeating numbers and it appears there are always 8
numbers. For example, I wrote a 1, then I swipe down with 2 fingers
repeatedly and I get this:

 

19587630

 

If I keep on swiping it repeats over and over. Now type a 2 and you get
another 8 digit number, but if you do this on different occasions it appears
you get a different number, e.g. type a 1 and you may not get 19587630 next
time but another 8 digits.

 

I wonder if they do offer selections with a 2-finger swipe down, then why
not make it consistent, e.g. you type a 1 and then you swipe down and get 2,
3, 4,5 etc.

 

I think this handwriting feature has great potential and I will inform Rob
from the Today in iOS Podcast about this feature since it does not appear to
be available for sighted users. I think this could and should become
mainstream and Apple needs to develop this into the best and most efficient
handwriting recognition application out there. I bet there might be
jailbreak apps which allow people to use handwriting.

 

I am normally fairly good at recognizing patterns and methods behind the
application of stuff, but this does leave me a bit baffled and wondering

RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-23 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Cara,

 

Well, the colen works the same way.  Just put 2 periods one above the other
but you have to do it very quickly otherwise, only one will appear.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Hi Ron,

 

I think you're thinking of a semicolon.

 

I was looking for a colon which is two dots on top of each other as you
know. :)

 

I did figure out how to get this consistently now so thanks to you all for
help!

 

You rock!

 

Smiles,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
wrote:

 

Hi Cara,

 

If you tap the screen quickly and follow it quickly with a comma under it,
it works every time.  That's why I don't understand why the comma doesn't
work.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@ http://googlegroups.com/
googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:32 AM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Okay Sieghard, do tell!

 

How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period
right after I touch the screen the second time.

 

thanks,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  mailto:siegh...@live.ca
siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 

Hello,

 

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

 

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

 

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

 

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-23 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Ron,

yep, tried that already. Actually that was the first thing I tried.

It makes the double-tap sound and a period is printed.

Thanks so much though for the suggestion.

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 23, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:

Hi Cara,
 
Well, the colen works the same way.  Just put 2 periods one above the other but 
you have to do it very quickly otherwise, only one will appear.
 
Ron  Danvers
 
 
Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma
 
Hi Ron,
 
I think you're thinking of a semicolon.
 
I was looking for a colon which is two dots on top of each other as you know. :)
 
I did figure out how to get this consistently now so thanks to you all for help!
 
You rock!
 
Smiles,
 
Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 
Hi Cara,
 
If you tap the screen quickly and follow it quickly with a comma under it, it 
works every time.  That’s why I don’t understand why the comma doesn’t work.
 
Ron  Danvers
 
Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma
 
Okay Sieghard, do tell!
 
How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period right 
after I touch the screen the second time.
 
thanks,
 
Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
Hello,
 
I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing a 
bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since I 
lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make this 
available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover users.
They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if you 
added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could have 
simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but maybe 
they have their reasons.
 
Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
underscore etc.
 
I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
across it always interprets it as an underscore.
 
I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
“vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a right 
parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
 
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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Margaret
I have worked out how to do a question mark but I would like to know how to do 
a full stop. I also had sight until I was in my teens. 

Margaret 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 22 Sep 2013, at 8:47 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing 
 a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since 
 I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
 method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make 
 this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover 
 users.
 They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if 
 you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could 
 have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but 
 maybe they have their reasons.
  
 Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
 comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
 managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
 semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
 underscore etc.
  
 I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
 across it always interprets it as an underscore.
  
 I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
 how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
 “vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a 
 right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.
  
 Best regards,
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RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Margaret Booth
I sent you a email previously saying that I can't do a full stop in the hand
writing mode but I have now worked out how to do it. I'm the same I can't
work out how to do a coma. I can do a lot of the other symbols. I have
worked out how to do a dash. What I do is to draw a very small line across
the screen and this seems to work. 

 

I am enjoying playing around with the hand writing mode.

 

 

Margaret

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Hello,

 

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

 

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

 

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

 

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Betty Emmons
Isn't a full stop an exclaimation ?
Betty Emmons
  - Original Message - 
  From: Margaret 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:09 AM
  Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma


  I have worked out how to do a question mark but I would like to know how to 
do a full stop. I also had sight until I was in my teens. 


  Margaret 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On 22 Sep 2013, at 8:47 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Hello,



I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been 
practicing a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I 
do since I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather 
efficient method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not 
make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover 
users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if 
you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could have 
simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but maybe 
they have their reasons.



Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert 
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
underscore etc.



I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal 
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.



I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no 
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
“vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a right 
parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.



Best regards,

Sieghard




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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Lisa Soulor
Sieghard, I am stumped with commas and apostrophes! I found with the
dash you just need to do a very short line. I had a small amount of
vision as a child and learned how to print. My sighted husband was
helping me to do som punctuation marks the other day and we just
couldn't get the commas and apostrophes to identify.
In Christ, Lisa

On 9/22/13, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I sent you a email previously saying that I can't do a full stop in the
 hand
 writing mode but I have now worked out how to do it. I'm the same I can't
 work out how to do a coma. I can do a lot of the other symbols. I have
 worked out how to do a dash. What I do is to draw a very small line across
 the screen and this seems to work.



 I am enjoying playing around with the hand writing mode.





 Margaret





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 8:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Handwriting - how to get a comma



 Hello,



 I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been
 practicing
 a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do
 since
 I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
 efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
 not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
 Voiceover users.

 They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
 you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
 have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it,
 but
 maybe they have their reasons.



 Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
 a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
 have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
 period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
 symbol, underscore etc.



 I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
 line across it always interprets it as an underscore.



 I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
 idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
 as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually
 inserts
 a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.



 Best regards,

 Sieghard



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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Dionesque
An easy way to write a comma is to write a dot and than swipe down with 2 
fingers until VO says comme. Same way you can reach the dash by drawing an 
underscore and swiping down with 2 fingers. This is the easiest way to achieve 
the letters or punctuation marks one is experiencing difficulties with.
Greetings, 
Barbara

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

 Am 22.09.2013 um 12:47 schrieb Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca:
 
 Hello,
  
 I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing 
 a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since 
 I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
 method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make 
 this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover 
 users.
 They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if 
 you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could 
 have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but 
 maybe they have their reasons.
  
 Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
 comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
 managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
 semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
 underscore etc.
  
 I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
 across it always interprets it as an underscore.
  
 I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
 how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
 “vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a 
 right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.
  
 Best regards,
 Sieghard
  
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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Kellie and my lab pack
Thanks for letting me know about how to get a comma. I had vision for a long 
time and have been able to get every single symbol written with the exception 
of a comm and apostrophe. lol I got quoteation marks a few times but am not 
sure what I did for that. lol 
I can draw all the other symbols, even an  sign with little difficulty. 
I am enjoying this feature. It is nice being able to write again and knowing 
that I remember even if it is with my fingers. lol 
Kellie, guide Loki and retired July

From: Dionesque 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

An easy way to write a comma is to write a dot and than swipe down with 2 
fingers until VO says comme. Same way you can reach the dash by drawing an 
underscore and swiping down with 2 fingers. This is the easiest way to achieve 
the letters or punctuation marks one is experiencing difficulties with.
Greetings, 
Barbara

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 22.09.2013 um 12:47 schrieb Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca:


  Hello,

   

  I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing 
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since I 
lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make this 
available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover users.

  They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if 
you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could have 
simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but maybe 
they have their reasons.

   

  Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
underscore etc.

   

  I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
across it always interprets it as an underscore.

   

  I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
“vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a right 
parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

   

  Best regards,

  Sieghard

   

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RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
A full stop  is what the Limies call a period *smile*!

Being a little Kraut a long time ago back in Germany when I started learn
English in school we were also taught full stop instead of period, but later
when I had English teachers who spent time in the States that changed.

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Betty Emmons
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Isn't a full stop an exclaimation ?

Betty Emmons

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From: Margaret mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Cc:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%3e viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:09 AM

Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

I have worked out how to do a question mark but I would like to know how to
do a full stop. I also had sight until I was in my teens. 

 

Margaret 

Sent from my iPhone


On 22 Sep 2013, at 8:47 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hello,

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

Best regards,

Sieghard

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Okay Sieghard, do tell!

How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period right 
after I touch the screen the second time.

thanks,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hello,
 
I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing a 
bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since I 
lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make this 
available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover users.
They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if you 
added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could have 
simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but maybe 
they have their reasons.
 
Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
underscore etc.
 
I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
across it always interprets it as an underscore.
 
I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
“vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a right 
parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Carol Pearson
Seagood,
Technically a dash is written with a space either side. Does this help you to 
achieve it? Smiley


Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 22 Sep 2013, at 04:31 pm, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:

Okay Sieghard, do tell!

How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period right 
after I touch the screen the second time.

thanks,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hello,
 
I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing a 
bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since I 
lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make this 
available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover users.
They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if you 
added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could have 
simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but maybe 
they have their reasons.
 
Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
underscore etc.
 
I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
across it always interprets it as an underscore.
 
I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
“vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a right 
parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 

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RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Sieghard

 

I know print letters in both upper and lower case and I have to say I'm
doing quite well with the whole thing.  I have exactly the same problem you
have.  I can't enter a comma or an apostrophe.  Like you, I can do even the
complicated ones like the ampersand or the asterisk but no go on comma and
apostrophe.  I smiled when you described getting a vertical line and such
because I had the very same frustration.  As for the dash, I managed to do
it several times by doing the horizontal line backwards.  Left to right gave
me the underscore and right to left the dash.  Having said that, it worked
several times but is far from being consistent.

 

Maybe it just can't be done yet.

 

Let's see if someone else figured it out

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Hello,

 

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

 

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

 

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

 

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

 

A full stop is a period.  An exclamation is simply a vertical bar with a dot
under it and that works very well.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Betty Emmons
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Isn't a full stop an exclaimation ?

Betty Emmons

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From: Margaret mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Cc:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%3e viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:09 AM

Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

I have worked out how to do a question mark but I would like to know how to
do a full stop. I also had sight until I was in my teens. 

 

Margaret 

Sent from my iPhone


On 22 Sep 2013, at 8:47 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hello,

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Kelly,

 

You can get the quotation marks by doing two commas side by side quickly and
it works.  The and sign can be done easily by doing something that looks
like the key of G in music and it thinks it's the ampersand.  The asterisk
works well if you do it the same way as if you were doing it on paper, sort
of a cross mixed in with an X.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kellie and my lab pack
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Thanks for letting me know about how to get a comma. I had vision for a long
time and have been able to get every single symbol written with the
exception of a comm and apostrophe. lol I got quoteation marks a few times
but am not sure what I did for that. lol 

I can draw all the other symbols, even an  sign with little difficulty. 

I am enjoying this feature. It is nice being able to write again and knowing
that I remember even if it is with my fingers. lol 

Kellie, guide Loki and retired July

 

From: Dionesque mailto:diones...@interia.pl  

Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

An easy way to write a comma is to write a dot and than swipe down with 2
fingers until VO says comme. Same way you can reach the dash by drawing an
underscore and swiping down with 2 fingers. This is the easiest way to
achieve the letters or punctuation marks one is experiencing difficulties
with.

Greetings, 

Barbara

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 22.09.2013 um 12:47 schrieb Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca:

Hello,

 

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

 

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

 

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

 

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Cara,

 

If you tap the screen quickly and follow it quickly with a comma under it,
it works every time.  That's why I don't understand why the comma doesn't
work.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Okay Sieghard, do tell!

 

How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period
right after I touch the screen the second time.

 

thanks,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 

Hello,

 

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

 

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

 

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

 

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Once you've entered a punctuation mark, use a two finger flick to choose 
a different punctuation mark. For example, to get a comma, tap the 
screen once, and you'll hear period. Now do a two finger flick down, and 
you'll hear comma. Now you can just move on to entering your next character.


On 09/22/2013 06:43 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

Hi Sieghard

I know print letters in both upper and lower case and I have to say I’m
doing quite well with the whole thing.  I have exactly the same problem
you have.  I can’t enter a comma or an apostrophe.  Like you, I can do
even the complicated ones like the ampersand or the asterisk but no go
on comma and apostrophe.  I smiled when you described getting a vertical
line and such because I had the very same frustration.  As for the dash,
I managed to do it several times by doing the horizontal line
backwards.  Left to right gave me the underscore and right to left the
dash.  Having said that, it worked several times but is far from being
consistent.

Maybe it just can’t be done yet.

Let’s see if someone else figured it out

Ron  Danvers

*Falling down is part of LIFE...*

*Getting back up is LIVING...*

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:47 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Handwriting - how to get a comma

Hello,

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been
practicing a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write
which I do since I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could
become a rather efficient method of text input. I actually don’t
understand why Apple does not make this available to all iPhone users
instead of restricting it to Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way
if you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one
could have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch
to it, but maybe they have their reasons.

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best
insert a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation
area and I have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used
symbols like a period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation
mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, underscore etc.

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts
this as a “vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it
usually inserts a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

Best regards,

Sieghard

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
One thing which I found helpful is that I purchased a stylus which
works with the phone. It makes it easier if your hands are sweaty.
It's lots of fun to play with.

On 9/22/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Once you've entered a punctuation mark, use a two finger flick to choose
 a different punctuation mark. For example, to get a comma, tap the
 screen once, and you'll hear period. Now do a two finger flick down, and
 you'll hear comma. Now you can just move on to entering your next
 character.

 On 09/22/2013 06:43 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:
 Hi Sieghard

 I know print letters in both upper and lower case and I have to say I’m
 doing quite well with the whole thing.  I have exactly the same problem
 you have.  I can’t enter a comma or an apostrophe.  Like you, I can do
 even the complicated ones like the ampersand or the asterisk but no go
 on comma and apostrophe.  I smiled when you described getting a vertical
 line and such because I had the very same frustration.  As for the dash,
 I managed to do it several times by doing the horizontal line
 backwards.  Left to right gave me the underscore and right to left the
 dash.  Having said that, it worked several times but is far from being
 consistent.

 Maybe it just can’t be done yet.

 Let’s see if someone else figured it out

 Ron  Danvers

 *Falling down is part of LIFE...*

 *Getting back up is LIVING...*

 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:47 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Handwriting - how to get a comma

 Hello,

 I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been
 practicing a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write
 which I do since I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could
 become a rather efficient method of text input. I actually don’t
 understand why Apple does not make this available to all iPhone users
 instead of restricting it to Voiceover users.

 They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way
 if you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one
 could have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch
 to it, but maybe they have their reasons.

 Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best
 insert a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation
 area and I have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used
 symbols like a period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation
 mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, underscore etc.

 I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
 line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

 I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
 idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts
 this as a “vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it
 usually inserts a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

 Best regards,

 Sieghard

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