subject:"RE\: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover\?"

RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-26 Thread Nicki keck

I am having trouble conceptualizing this too.  I have my mail app set the exact 
same way, so I don’t get it.  I listened to the applevis podcast about it 
today, and I sort of understand how you are supposed to use it, but it didn’t 
seem like something to get excited about, unless I’m really missing something 
big.  True, you could sned a new tweet in tweetings without having to go into 
the app, but usually, when I tweet, it’s when I’m thinking of checking my 
twitter anyway so I would go into the app anyway.

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:08 PM
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Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to work 
even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen colbert 
the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as if he was 
looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down slightly on the 
one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that message. If he was 
interested in reading the whole thing, he could press down further to pop the 
entire message open. 

I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective brains 
to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm not getting 
how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail app set up to 
read me five lines of each message so that gives me an audible peek at each 
one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in order to read the whole 
thing really doesn't take a lot of additional time. 

As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and 
hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

>From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
>hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
>the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>process.

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Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou

On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou

On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
<mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jared.stoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-26 Thread Nicki keck

Now that messages thing would be pretty cool I agree.

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Jonathan Mosen
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…Hi Mary, I've not been able to open the App Switcher using 3D Touch as I've 
seen described in some mainstream publications. I'm wondering if this has 
deliberately been disabled, or whether I've yet to master the knack for this 
one.

I agree with others in this thread re peak and pop in Mail. I don't find that 
very beneficial. However I do very much enjoy all the extra shortcuts on the 
home screen. Now that I've been texting on the phone for 24 hours, I get a cool 
list of contacts when I firmly press on the Messages icon. When I choose from 
the list, focus is placed right in the edit field, ready for me to type or 
dictate. It's pretty slick.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

On 26/09/2015, at 1:36 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
<mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
tapping of home button?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel < <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> 
siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

>From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
>hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
>the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>process.

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John Diakogeorgiou
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To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou

On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel < <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> 
siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

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To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou

On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall < <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> 
mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared < <mailto:jared.stoff...@gmail.com> 
jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-26 Thread John Diakogeorgiou

I just tried the message one. It is cool. So is the camera one. I am
really looking forward to what this will do over time. I don't know
what I was doing wrong yesterday but it works for me today.

On 9/26/15, Nicki keck <jesusgir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now that messages thing would be pretty cool I agree.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>
>
>
> …Hi Mary, I've not been able to open the App Switcher using 3D Touch as I've
> seen described in some mainstream publications. I'm wondering if this has
> deliberately been disabled, or whether I've yet to master the knack for this
> one.
>
> I agree with others in this thread re peak and pop in Mail. I don't find
> that very beneficial. However I do very much enjoy all the extra shortcuts
> on the home screen. Now that I've been texting on the phone for 24 hours, I
> get a cool list of contacts when I firmly press on the Messages icon. When I
> choose from the list, focus is placed right in the edit field, ready for me
> to type or dictate. It's pretty slick.
>
> Jonathan Mosen
>
> Mosen Consulting
>
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>
> http://Mosen.org
>
>
>
> On 26/09/2015, at 1:36 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com
> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take
> practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're
> supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double
> tapping of home button?
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel < <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
> siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap
> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger
> on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the
> process.
>
>
>
>
>
> From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
> To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>
>
>
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the
> icon.
>
> John Diakogeorgiou
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel < <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
> siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>
>
>
> From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
> To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>
>
>
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>
> John Diakogeorgiou
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall < <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
> mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared < <mailto:jared.stoff...@gmail.com>
> jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping
> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>
>
>
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Gmail

Hey, that's pretty neat. I'll probably find that useful, as I do quite a big of 
texting.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
> 
> …Hi Mary, I've not been able to open the App Switcher using 3D Touch as I've 
> seen described in some mainstream publications. I'm wondering if this has 
> deliberately been disabled, or whether I've yet to master the knack for this 
> one.
> I agree with others in this thread re peak and pop in Mail. I don't find that 
> very beneficial. However I do very much enjoy all the extra shortcuts on the 
> home screen. Now that I've been texting on the phone for 24 hours, I get a 
> cool list of contacts when I firmly press on the Messages icon. When I choose 
> from the list, focus is placed right in the edit field, ready for me to type 
> or dictate. It's pretty slick.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 26/09/2015, at 1:36 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
>> practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
>> supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
>> tapping of home button?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your 
>>> finger on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger 
>>> in the process.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold 
>>> for feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move 
>>> the icon.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point 
>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of 
>>> in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for 
>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick 
>>> bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>>>  
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Alex Hall

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
> 
> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
> 
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread John Diakogeorgiou

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>  
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Mary Otten

I just got my 6S this afternoon. I have briefly tried force touch. And I am not 
having very much luck either. I did not try it within the email app, as I 
frankly don't see where it's a big advantage for us. But I haven't been able to 
get it to do anything useful on screen either. The registers but then it seems 
like apps just open. And that's not what I want. At least I don't think so. A 
little bit frustrating. Takes me back to my first iPod touch when I was ready 
to throw it through the window for the first few weeks. I'm sure this is going 
to take a lot of practice.
Mary

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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:10 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread cd

Is this 3d thing really worth having the 6S for?

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:33 PM
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>From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
>hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
>the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>process.

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John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
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Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou

On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

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John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
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Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou

On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Mary Otten

Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
tapping of home button?
Mary

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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
> hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
> the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
> process.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
> icon.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Gmail

I got the impression that you could do it that way, but didn't have to.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:31 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
> icon.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
>> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
>> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
>> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>>  
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Mary Otten

Well, it is very early days for 3-D touch. I have the idea that it is going to 
be more useful for sided folks then it will be for us. But I think it will be 
useful for us. What phone do you have now? I upgraded from a 5S. And for me, I 
think it is definitely worth having upgrade. If I had a six, I don't know that 
I would've upgraded. Probably not.
Mary

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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:35 PM, cd <cd5...@q.com> wrote:
> 
> Is this 3d thing really worth having the 6S for?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
> hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
> the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
> process.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
> icon.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>  
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread John Diakogeorgiou

I forgot about that. Refresh my short memory.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:36 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
> practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
> supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
> tapping of home button?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger 
>> on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>> process.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
>> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
>> icon.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
>> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
>> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
>> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread John Diakogeorgiou

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
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>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

 

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That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
<mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jared.stoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

 

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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

>From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
>hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
>the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>process.

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I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou

On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

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That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou

On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
<mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com 
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How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread John Diakogeorgiou

I've been able to get the shortcuts for apps up. It will take practice.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I just got my 6S this afternoon. I have briefly tried force touch. And I am 
> not having very much luck either. I did not try it within the email app, as I 
> frankly don't see where it's a big advantage for us. But I haven't been able 
> to get it to do anything useful on screen either. The registers but then it 
> seems like apps just open. And that's not what I want. At least I don't think 
> so. A little bit frustrating. Takes me back to my first iPod touch when I was 
> ready to throw it through the window for the first few weeks. I'm sure this 
> is going to take a lot of practice.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:10 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick 
>>> bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
 On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
 
 How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
 harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
 
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread John Diakogeorgiou

If their is a better way I'd like to know about it..

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:34 PM, Gmail <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I got the impression that you could do it that way, but didn't have to.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:31 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
>> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
>> icon.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point 
>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of 
>>> in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for 
>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick 
>>> bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread John Diakogeorgiou

I haven't decided yet. I think it will be over time.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:35 PM, cd <cd5...@q.com> wrote:
> 
> Is this 3d thing really worth having the 6S for?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
> hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
> the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
> process.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
> icon.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread cd

I have the 6 plus.  I just got it a few months ago so won’t be able to upgrade 
for some time and I think that’s OK.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

Well, it is very early days for 3-D touch. I have the idea that it is going to 
be more useful for sided folks then it will be for us. But I think it will be 
useful for us. What phone do you have now? I upgraded from a 5S. And for me, I 
think it is definitely worth having upgrade. If I had a six, I don't know that 
I would've upgraded. Probably not.
Mary

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On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:35 PM, cd <cd5...@q.com> wrote:

Is this 3d thing really worth having the 6S for?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

>From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
>hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
>the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>process.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou

On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou

On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Alan Lemly

I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to work 
even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen colbert 
the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as if he was 
looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down slightly on the 
one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that message. If he was 
interested in reading the whole thing, he could press down further to pop the 
entire message open. 

I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective brains 
to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm not getting 
how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail app set up to 
read me five lines of each message so that gives me an audible peek at each 
one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in order to read the whole 
thing really doesn't take a lot of additional time. 

As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and 
hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
> hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
> the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
> process.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
> icon.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Alan,
I agree with you about the email app. I don't see where the Pek and pop thing 
is going to do us a lot of good as voiceover users. But I think there maybe 
some useful things in other apps. For instance, with the notes app, where you 
can immediately open a new note easily. Or the maps app, if you travel and use 
cabs, and need to go home. Those were two things in Jonathan's demo. And I'm 
sure third-party app developers will come up with things. Dropbox already 
supports it for instance.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to work 
> even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen colbert 
> the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as if he was 
> looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down slightly on 
> the one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that message. If he was 
> interested in reading the whole thing, he could press down further to pop the 
> entire message open. 
> 
> I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective 
> brains to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm not 
> getting how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail app 
> set up to read me five lines of each message so that gives me an audible peek 
> at each one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in order to read 
> the whole thing really doesn't take a lot of additional time. 
> 
> As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and 
> hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger 
>> on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>> process.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
>> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
>> icon.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
>> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
>> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
>> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>>  
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread John Diakogeorgiou

I haven't found it to be useful in mail. The main reason is that if I
preview a message, it can be hard to get out of that mode. However,
when using it on the camera, I was able to choose whether to take a
selfie, back picture, and several types of videos.
I noticed when listening to Jonathans podcast on the Live picture,
that I heard him double tap and hold to invoke the 3d touch feature.
It will be interesting to see what developers do with this feature. I
imagine that it could be fun when playing games for example.

On 9/25/15, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> I agree with you about the email app. I don't see where the Pek and pop
> thing is going to do us a lot of good as voiceover users. But I think there
> maybe some useful things in other apps. For instance, with the notes app,
> where you can immediately open a new note easily. Or the maps app, if you
> travel and use cabs, and need to go home. Those were two things in
> Jonathan's demo. And I'm sure third-party app developers will come up with
> things. Dropbox already supports it for instance.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to
>> work even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen
>> colbert the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as
>> if he was looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down
>> slightly on the one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that
>> message. If he was interested in reading the whole thing, he could press
>> down further to pop the entire message open.
>>
>> I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective
>> brains to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm
>> not getting how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail
>> app set up to read me five lines of each message so that gives me an
>> audible peek at each one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in
>> order to read the whole thing really doesn't take a lot of additional
>> time.
>>
>> As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and
>> hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap
>>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your
>>> finger on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your
>>> finger in the process.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>
>>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold
>>> for feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move
>>> the icon.
>>>
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point
>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort
>>> of in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for
>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>
>>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>>>
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to
>>> peek at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a
>>> quick bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want
>>> to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping
>>> harder or softer in email d

Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Gmail

What kinds of things can you do with 3d touch and Dropbox?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> I agree with you about the email app. I don't see where the Pek and pop thing 
> is going to do us a lot of good as voiceover users. But I think there maybe 
> some useful things in other apps. For instance, with the notes app, where you 
> can immediately open a new note easily. Or the maps app, if you travel and 
> use cabs, and need to go home. Those were two things in Jonathan's demo. And 
> I'm sure third-party app developers will come up with things. Dropbox already 
> supports it for instance.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to 
>> work even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen 
>> colbert the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as if 
>> he was looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down 
>> slightly on the one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that message. 
>> If he was interested in reading the whole thing, he could press down further 
>> to pop the entire message open. 
>> 
>> I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective 
>> brains to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm not 
>> getting how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail app 
>> set up to read me five lines of each message so that gives me an audible 
>> peek at each one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in order to 
>> read the whole thing really doesn't take a lot of additional time. 
>> 
>> As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and 
>> hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your 
>>> finger on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger 
>>> in the process.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold 
>>> for feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move 
>>> the icon.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point 
>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of 
>>> in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for 
>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick 
>>> bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Jonathan Mosen

Hi John, in the Live Photos demo, I'm not double tapping and holding, just 
locating the icon with a flick or tap, then lifting my finger, then placing it 
on the screen being sure not to move it at all and pressing firmly. Writing it 
down or explaining it makes it sound more complicated than it really is, and I 
think everyone will get the hang of it pretty quickly.
Just lift your finger, then press down again with some firmness. The phone will 
give you haptic feedback to let you know it's understood your firm press.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 26/09/2015, at 2:33 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I haven't found it to be useful in mail. The main reason is that if I
> preview a message, it can be hard to get out of that mode. However,
> when using it on the camera, I was able to choose whether to take a
> selfie, back picture, and several types of videos.
> I noticed when listening to Jonathans podcast on the Live picture,
> that I heard him double tap and hold to invoke the 3d touch feature.
> It will be interesting to see what developers do with this feature. I
> imagine that it could be fun when playing games for example.
> 
> On 9/25/15, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>> I agree with you about the email app. I don't see where the Pek and pop
>> thing is going to do us a lot of good as voiceover users. But I think there
>> maybe some useful things in other apps. For instance, with the notes app,
>> where you can immediately open a new note easily. Or the maps app, if you
>> travel and use cabs, and need to go home. Those were two things in
>> Jonathan's demo. And I'm sure third-party app developers will come up with
>> things. Dropbox already supports it for instance.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to
>>> work even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen
>>> colbert the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as
>>> if he was looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down
>>> slightly on the one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that
>>> message. If he was interested in reading the whole thing, he could press
>>> down further to pop the entire message open.
>>> 
>>> I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective
>>> brains to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm
>>> not getting how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail
>>> app set up to read me five lines of each message so that gives me an
>>> audible peek at each one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in
>>> order to read the whole thing really doesn't take a lot of additional
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and
>>> hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap
>>>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your
>>>> finger on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your
>>>> finger in the process.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>> 
>>>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold
>>>> for feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move
>>>> the icon.
>>>> 
>>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point
>>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort
>>>> of in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for
>>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have

Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Jonathan Mosen

…Hi Mary, I've not been able to open the App Switcher using 3D Touch as I've 
seen described in some mainstream publications. I'm wondering if this has 
deliberately been disabled, or whether I've yet to master the knack for this 
one.
I agree with others in this thread re peak and pop in Mail. I don't find that 
very beneficial. However I do very much enjoy all the extra shortcuts on the 
home screen. Now that I've been texting on the phone for 24 hours, I get a cool 
list of contacts when I firmly press on the Messages icon. When I choose from 
the list, focus is placed right in the edit field, ready for me to type or 
dictate. It's pretty slick.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 26/09/2015, at 1:36 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
> practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
> supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
> tapping of home button?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger 
>> on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>> process.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
>> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
>> icon.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
>> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
>> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
>> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
>> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jared.stoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>>  
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

2015-09-25 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Jonathan,
I don't text that much, but if I did, I could see how that could be useful. 
There is a new Twitter update that implements 3-D touch. I don't think my 
Twitter client of choice has done that yet. It will be interesting to see what 
you can get from the home screen.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
> 
> …Hi Mary, I've not been able to open the App Switcher using 3D Touch as I've 
> seen described in some mainstream publications. I'm wondering if this has 
> deliberately been disabled, or whether I've yet to master the knack for this 
> one.
> I agree with others in this thread re peak and pop in Mail. I don't find that 
> very beneficial. However I do very much enjoy all the extra shortcuts on the 
> home screen. Now that I've been texting on the phone for 24 hours, I get a 
> cool list of contacts when I firmly press on the Messages icon. When I choose 
> from the list, focus is placed right in the edit field, ready for me to type 
> or dictate. It's pretty slick.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 26/09/2015, at 1:36 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
>> practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
>> supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
>> tapping of home button?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your 
>>> finger on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger 
>>> in the process.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold 
>>> for feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move 
>>> the icon.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point 
>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of 
>>> in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for 
>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick 
>>> bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared <jared.stoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>>>  
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