Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-26 Thread Lois Butterfield
We have a storm off the coast today, so when I got up a while ago, I asked 
Siri, what is the wind speed.  She said, the wind speed is 20 miles per hour 
NE and named my town.  I thought that was pretty neat.  I'll be checking on 
it through the day.


Lois

-Original Message- 
From: James Mannion

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

That is the big disadvantage in my opinion of using the weather app
that comes in IOS or SIRI getting data from it. Yahoo weather just
doesn't seem to be all that accurate, especially in microclimates. I'm
sure people's experiences probably differ though.

On 10/25/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

Hi, it gets it from the local weather app which comes on the iPhone. I
think the app gets it from Yahoo weather if I remember right. Although
you can ask Siri about the weather in different cities all over the
world, I think it still uses the same weather source and I don't think
you can change it.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. - Mark Twain
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On 10/25/2012 1:10 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Does Siri pull the weather data from the native weather app? Is there a
way to get Siri to read weather from other apps, such as MenuWeather?
MenuWeather seems to more accurately reflect the weather condisions in my
micro-climate.

Thanks. Keith

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Behalf

Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Just say, what's the weather today and she will tell you. If Voice
Over is off she'll just tell you the temp, but if Voice Over is on, you
will get the temp, plus whatever shows up on the screen. Like the high
and low for the day.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. - Mark Twain
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On 10/25/2012 12:55 PM, Chris wrote:

It would appear the weather is also displayed rather than spoken
according to yesterday's mess about. So how do you get Siri to speak the
weather then?


Christopher Hallsworth

On 25/10/2012 02:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of
interaction,
I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more
information
displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population
of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she
displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls,
or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying
otherwise.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. -
E. Joseph Cossman
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:

Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Chris,

I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time
both
for
asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
works
fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
Hallsworth
and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
to say,
SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
the
home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can
simply
speak
your message and SIRI will hear it.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
least
I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello Chris.

Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

Kawal.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is
the

fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
hello,
it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I

Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello Wayne, one thing which I want to mention is that I believe if Siri 
doesn't understand something you say, you can double-tap the edit field 
and correct it and it should learn from that and so as time goes on, it 
will eventually learn your speech patterns. I know that Dragon Dictation 
does this, and assume Siri does as well.


--
Raul A. Gallegos
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes 
on. - Robert Frost

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On 10/24/2012 11:06 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

I was skeptical of Siri when I heard of it last year with the 4S. I
stuck with my iPhone 4 and wondered what all the fuss was about. It
sounded interesting, but nothing I would really use. Since I have
gotten an iPhone 5 2 weeks ago, I have started using Siri and the
dictation feature on the virtual keyboard a lot more. I still have
times when the dictation or Siri will misunderstand me. Sometimes it
has happened 3 or 4 times in a row with Siri and I gave up. With
dictation, it happens the first time but the second time it gets what
I'm saying correct. I use it most often when filling out the mobile
web form to schedule taxi service with my local cab company. I used to
use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard for this task, but now I can just
speak my phrases for what I want to fill in the various fields, or use
the virtual keyboard to type in corrections or short items in the
fields. Last night was the crowning moment for me and when I knew that
Siri was going to be very helpful. I was riding with my fiance and we
were trying to make our way back from going out to eat. She's someone
who relies heavily on GPS. She pulled over and when she was typing in
the GPS our destination, i asked Siri to direct us to my home address.
I recall hearing on a podcast recently that you need to turn VoiceOver
off when in the maps app and when getting spoken directions. I did
this, and soon afterward, we started getting exact directions. We even
went off route since we were not able to make a certain turn, and the
voice caught it and redirected us back to the original route. Both my
fiance and I were very impressed with the task and Siri's performance
in maps. It's a nice feeling to be able to ask Siri how to get to a
certain address and be told exactly where to go. Siri and I are not
communicating perfectly all of the time yet, but we're getting there,
and possibilities are starting to form for me for things I can use
Siri and dictation for.

when I heard of people last year that used dictation, I found myself
asking, Why not just type in the item you lazy person? Now though,
it is so much easier to say what you want typed in and then do short
corrections, rather than messing with typing things in. I am not to
the point of dictating medium to long text messages correctly every
time, but slowly getting there.

Regards,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/24/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of interaction,
I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more information
displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population
of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she
displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls,
or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying
otherwise.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. -
E. Joseph Cossman
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:

Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Chris,

I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both
for
asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
works
fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
Hallsworth
and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
to say,
SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
the
home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply
speak
your message and SIRI will hear it.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
least
I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing

Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Debbie G
It works really nicely for me on my iPhone 5.

Debbie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:26 PM
  Subject: RE: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5


  Hi Chris,

  I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both for
  asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It works
  fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
  automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher Hallsworth
  and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message to say,
  SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
  Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press the
  home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply speak
  your message and SIRI will hear it. 


  Regards,
  Sieghard
   

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Chris
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

  Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at least
  I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


  Christopher Hallsworth

  On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
   Hello Chris.
  
   Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.
  
   Kawal.
  
   On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the
  fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said hello,
  it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I then
  asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
  carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she told me
  about the Weather app opening.
   I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice
  Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
  unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!
   Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
   I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no
  problem.
  
   --
  
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RE: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Brian Miller
Thanks Wayne for this summary report... A quick question for someone who is
still waiting for his iPhone V and hasn't played with Siri yet...  What is
the difference between dictation and Siri?  Is dictation a separate,
pre-installed app?  How do you know which one to use?  

Thanks,

Brian Miller
 

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:07 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5
 
 I was skeptical of Siri when I heard of it last year with the 
 4S. I stuck with my iPhone 4 and wondered what all the fuss 
 was about. It sounded interesting, but nothing I would really 
 use. Since I have gotten an iPhone 5 2 weeks ago, I have 
 started using Siri and the dictation feature on the virtual 
 keyboard a lot more. I still have times when the dictation or 
 Siri will misunderstand me. Sometimes it has happened 3 or 4 
 times in a row with Siri and I gave up. With dictation, it 
 happens the first time but the second time it gets what I'm 
 saying correct. I use it most often when filling out the 
 mobile web form to schedule taxi service with my local cab 
 company. I used to use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard for this 
 task, but now I can just speak my phrases for what I want to 
 fill in the various fields, or use the virtual keyboard to 
 type in corrections or short items in the fields. Last night 
 was the crowning moment for me and when I knew that Siri was 
 going to be very helpful. I was riding with my fiance and we 
 were trying to make our way back from going out to eat. She's 
 someone who relies heavily on GPS. She pulled over and when 
 she was typing in the GPS our destination, i asked Siri to 
 direct us to my home address.
 I recall hearing on a podcast recently that you need to turn 
 VoiceOver off when in the maps app and when getting spoken 
 directions. I did this, and soon afterward, we started 
 getting exact directions. We even went off route since we 
 were not able to make a certain turn, and the voice caught it 
 and redirected us back to the original route. Both my fiance 
 and I were very impressed with the task and Siri's 
 performance in maps. It's a nice feeling to be able to ask 
 Siri how to get to a certain address and be told exactly 
 where to go. Siri and I are not communicating perfectly all 
 of the time yet, but we're getting there, and possibilities 
 are starting to form for me for things I can use Siri and 
 dictation for.
 
 when I heard of people last year that used dictation, I found 
 myself asking, Why not just type in the item you lazy 
 person? Now though, it is so much easier to say what you 
 want typed in and then do short corrections, rather than 
 messing with typing things in. I am not to the point of 
 dictating medium to long text messages correctly every time, 
 but slowly getting there.
 
 Regards,
 Wayne Merritt
 
 On 10/24/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
  Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of 
  interaction, I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases 
 where you get 
  more information displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri 
  what the population of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by 
  speaking it, instead, she displays the information. So, in 
 this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
  However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, 
 making calls, 
  or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it 
 gets annoying 
  otherwise.
 
  --
  Raul A. Gallegos
  The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget 
 is once. 
  - E. Joseph Cossman Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
  Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
  Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
 
  On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:
  Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It 
  seems more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.
 
 
  Christopher Hallsworth
 
  On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
  Hi Chris,
 
  I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time 
  both for asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for 
  dictation. It works fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not 
  turned on SIRI will automatically listen if, for example, you say 
  Text Christopher Hallsworth
  and if you not follow right away with what you want the 
 text message 
  to say, SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to 
  Christopher Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you 
 have to double 
  tap or press the home key again to make SIRI listen, if 
 Voiceover is 
  off you can simply speak your message and SIRI will hear it.
 
 
  Regards,
  Sieghard
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
  Behalf Of Chris
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: My thoughts

Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, the dictation is a microphone button which is available any time 
that the keyboard is up. It's not technically Siri. Now, Siri is the 
virtual assistant which can send text messages as well, but it's an 
interactive thing. I hope that clears it up.


--
Raul A. Gallegos
A diplomat is someone who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that 
you will look forward to the trip.

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On 10/25/2012 7:24 AM, Brian Miller wrote:

Thanks Wayne for this summary report... A quick question for someone who is
still waiting for his iPhone V and hasn't played with Siri yet...  What is
the difference between dictation and Siri?  Is dictation a separate,
pre-installed app?  How do you know which one to use?

Thanks,

Brian Miller



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

I was skeptical of Siri when I heard of it last year with the
4S. I stuck with my iPhone 4 and wondered what all the fuss
was about. It sounded interesting, but nothing I would really
use. Since I have gotten an iPhone 5 2 weeks ago, I have
started using Siri and the dictation feature on the virtual
keyboard a lot more. I still have times when the dictation or
Siri will misunderstand me. Sometimes it has happened 3 or 4
times in a row with Siri and I gave up. With dictation, it
happens the first time but the second time it gets what I'm
saying correct. I use it most often when filling out the
mobile web form to schedule taxi service with my local cab
company. I used to use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard for this
task, but now I can just speak my phrases for what I want to
fill in the various fields, or use the virtual keyboard to
type in corrections or short items in the fields. Last night
was the crowning moment for me and when I knew that Siri was
going to be very helpful. I was riding with my fiance and we
were trying to make our way back from going out to eat. She's
someone who relies heavily on GPS. She pulled over and when
she was typing in the GPS our destination, i asked Siri to
direct us to my home address.
I recall hearing on a podcast recently that you need to turn
VoiceOver off when in the maps app and when getting spoken
directions. I did this, and soon afterward, we started
getting exact directions. We even went off route since we
were not able to make a certain turn, and the voice caught it
and redirected us back to the original route. Both my fiance
and I were very impressed with the task and Siri's
performance in maps. It's a nice feeling to be able to ask
Siri how to get to a certain address and be told exactly
where to go. Siri and I are not communicating perfectly all
of the time yet, but we're getting there, and possibilities
are starting to form for me for things I can use Siri and
dictation for.

when I heard of people last year that used dictation, I found
myself asking, Why not just type in the item you lazy
person? Now though, it is so much easier to say what you
want typed in and then do short corrections, rather than
messing with typing things in. I am not to the point of
dictating medium to long text messages correctly every time,
but slowly getting there.

Regards,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/24/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of
interaction, I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases

where you get

more information displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri
what the population of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by
speaking it, instead, she displays the information. So, in

this case y ou have to use Voice Over.

However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings,

making calls,

or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it

gets annoying

otherwise.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget

is once.

- E. Joseph Cossman Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:

Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It
seems more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Chris,

I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time
both for asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for
dictation. It works fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not
turned on SIRI will automatically listen if, for example, you say
Text Christopher Hallsworth
and if you not follow right away with what you want the

text message

to say, SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to
Christopher Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you

have to double

tap or press the home key

Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi,

For those of you using Siri with VoiceOver I just wanted to remind anyone 
interested that it is not necessary to double tap the listen button precisely. 
You can just to figure double tap anywhere on the screen and Siri will listen.

Hope this helps some people,

Ioana

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 24, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Chris,
 
 I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both for
 asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It works
 fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
 automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher Hallsworth
 and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message to say,
 SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
 Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press the
 home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply speak
 your message and SIRI will hear it. 
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Chris
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5
 
 Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at least
 I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
 On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hello Chris.
 
 Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the
 fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said hello,
 it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I then
 asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
 carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she told me
 about the Weather app opening.
 I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice
 Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
 unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!
 Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
 I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no
 problem.
 
 --
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Maria Joe Chapman
@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chris
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5
 
 Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
 least
 I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
 On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hello Chris.
 
 Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the
 fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
 hello,
 it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
 then
 asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
 carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she
 told me
 about the Weather app opening.
 I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice
 Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
 unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!
 Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
 I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no
 problem.
 
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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
 is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
Hallsworth
and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
to say,
SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
the
home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply
speak
your message and SIRI will hear it.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
least
I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello Chris.

Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

Kawal.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the

fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
hello,
it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
then
asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she
told me
about the Weather app opening.

I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice

Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!

Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no

problem.


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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Chris
It would appear the weather is also displayed rather than spoken 
according to yesterday's mess about. So how do you get Siri to speak the 
weather then?



Christopher Hallsworth

On 25/10/2012 02:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of interaction,
I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more information
displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population
of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she
displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls,
or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying
otherwise.

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The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. -
E. Joseph Cossman
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On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:

Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Chris,

I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both
for
asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
works
fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
Hallsworth
and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
to say,
SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
the
home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply
speak
your message and SIRI will hear it.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
least
I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello Chris.

Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

Kawal.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the

fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
hello,
it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
then
asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she
told me
about the Weather app opening.

I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice

Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!

Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no

problem.


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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Just say, what's the weather today and she will tell you. If Voice 
Over is off she'll just tell you the temp, but if Voice Over is on, you 
will get the temp, plus whatever shows up on the screen. Like the high 
and low for the day.


--
Raul A. Gallegos
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink 
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. - Mark Twain

Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
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On 10/25/2012 12:55 PM, Chris wrote:

It would appear the weather is also displayed rather than spoken
according to yesterday's mess about. So how do you get Siri to speak the
weather then?


Christopher Hallsworth

On 25/10/2012 02:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of interaction,
I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more information
displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population
of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she
displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls,
or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying
otherwise.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. -
E. Joseph Cossman
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:

Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Chris,

I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both
for
asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
works
fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
Hallsworth
and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
to say,
SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
the
home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply
speak
your message and SIRI will hear it.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
least
I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello Chris.

Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

Kawal.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is
the

fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
hello,
it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
then
asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she
told me
about the Weather app opening.

I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice

Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!

Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no

problem.


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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Bill Gallik
Hi, I'm a very new iPhone user and I have to admit that this iPhone 5 with 
Siri is terrific.


Only thing, I'm being told Siri isn't available.  I have several questions:

1)  What did I do to disable Siri?

2)  How do I enable Siri again?

Thanks!

Holland's Boy, Bill
Pray For Wisdom:
O Lord, I beseech Thee,
Keep Thine arm about my shoulder and Thine hand upon my mouth . . . . . . . 
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RE: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Does Siri pull the weather data from the native weather app? Is there a way to 
get Siri to read weather from other apps, such as MenuWeather? MenuWeather 
seems to more accurately reflect the weather condisions in my micro-climate.

Thanks. Keith 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Just say, what's the weather today and she will tell you. If Voice 
Over is off she'll just tell you the temp, but if Voice Over is on, you 
will get the temp, plus whatever shows up on the screen. Like the high 
and low for the day.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink 
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. - Mark Twain
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 10/25/2012 12:55 PM, Chris wrote:
 It would appear the weather is also displayed rather than spoken
 according to yesterday's mess about. So how do you get Siri to speak the
 weather then?


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 25/10/2012 02:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of interaction,
 I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more information
 displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population
 of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she
 displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
 However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls,
 or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying
 otherwise.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. -
 E. Joseph Cossman
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

 On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:
 Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
 more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hi Chris,

 I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both
 for
 asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
 works
 fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
 automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
 Hallsworth
 and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
 to say,
 SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
 Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
 the
 home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply
 speak
 your message and SIRI will hear it.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chris
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

 Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
 least
 I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hello Chris.

 Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

 Kawal.

 On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is
 the
 fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
 hello,
 it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
 then
 asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
 carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she
 told me
 about the Weather app opening.
 I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice
 Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
 unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!
 Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
 I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no
 problem.

 --

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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Wayne Merritt
To enable Siri, go to settings, general, Siri, and double tap the Siri
on/off button toward the top to toggle it on or off. It should be on
by default, but who knows what might have happened.

Hth,
Wayne

On 10/25/12, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 Does Siri pull the weather data from the native weather app? Is there a way
 to get Siri to read weather from other apps, such as MenuWeather?
 MenuWeather seems to more accurately reflect the weather condisions in my
 micro-climate.

 Thanks. Keith

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:07 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

 Just say, what's the weather today and she will tell you. If Voice
 Over is off she'll just tell you the temp, but if Voice Over is on, you
 will get the temp, plus whatever shows up on the screen. Like the high
 and low for the day.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
 what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. - Mark Twain
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

 On 10/25/2012 12:55 PM, Chris wrote:
 It would appear the weather is also displayed rather than spoken
 according to yesterday's mess about. So how do you get Siri to speak the
 weather then?


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 25/10/2012 02:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of interaction,
 I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more information
 displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population
 of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she
 displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
 However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls,
 or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying
 otherwise.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. -
 E. Joseph Cossman
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

 On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:
 Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
 more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hi Chris,

 I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both
 for
 asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
 works
 fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
 automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
 Hallsworth
 and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
 to say,
 SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
 Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
 the
 home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply
 speak
 your message and SIRI will hear it.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chris
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

 Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
 least
 I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hello Chris.

 Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

 Kawal.

 On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is
 the
 fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
 hello,
 it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
 then
 asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app.
 The
 carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she
 told me
 about the Weather app opening.
 I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice
 Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
 unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!
 Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
 I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no
 problem.

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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Chris
Yes it appears to pull the data from the native app. I know you can ask 
Siri to launch apps but do not know about third party ones.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 25/10/2012 18:10, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Does Siri pull the weather data from the native weather app? Is there a way to 
get Siri to read weather from other apps, such as MenuWeather? MenuWeather 
seems to more accurately reflect the weather condisions in my micro-climate.

Thanks. Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Just say, what's the weather today and she will tell you. If Voice
Over is off she'll just tell you the temp, but if Voice Over is on, you
will get the temp, plus whatever shows up on the screen. Like the high
and low for the day.

--
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The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. - Mark Twain
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
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On 10/25/2012 12:55 PM, Chris wrote:

It would appear the weather is also displayed rather than spoken
according to yesterday's mess about. So how do you get Siri to speak the
weather then?


Christopher Hallsworth

On 25/10/2012 02:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of interaction,
I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more information
displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population
of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she
displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls,
or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying
otherwise.

--
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The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. -
E. Joseph Cossman
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
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On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:

Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Chris,

I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both
for
asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
works
fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
Hallsworth
and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
to say,
SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
the
home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply
speak
your message and SIRI will hear it.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
least
I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello Chris.

Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

Kawal.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is
the

fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
hello,
it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
then
asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she
told me
about the Weather app opening.

I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice

Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!

Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no

problem.


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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Bill Gallik

In the Settings dialog for Siri, what in heck does Raise to Speak mean?

Holland's Boy, Bill
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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
My Siri isn't available either and I set it up in settings.  Raise to speak 
still doesn't work like it should.
On 25 Oct 2012, at 22:29, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:

 In the Settings dialog for Siri, what in heck does Raise to Speak mean?
 
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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Lois Butterfield

Hi Bill,

If you have that on, you can just bring the phone up to your face, and you 
should hear the tone for Siri.  when you finish, just take it away from your 
face.  You have to have it close in order for it to work.


Take care,
Lois

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Gallik

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

In the Settings dialog for Siri, what in heck does Raise to Speak mean?

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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, it gets it from the local weather app which comes on the iPhone. I 
think the app gets it from Yahoo weather if I remember right. Although 
you can ask Siri about the weather in different cities all over the 
world, I think it still uses the same weather source and I don't think 
you can change it.


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On 10/25/2012 1:10 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Does Siri pull the weather data from the native weather app? Is there a way to 
get Siri to read weather from other apps, such as MenuWeather? MenuWeather 
seems to more accurately reflect the weather condisions in my micro-climate.

Thanks. Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Just say, what's the weather today and she will tell you. If Voice
Over is off she'll just tell you the temp, but if Voice Over is on, you
will get the temp, plus whatever shows up on the screen. Like the high
and low for the day.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. - Mark Twain
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 10/25/2012 12:55 PM, Chris wrote:

It would appear the weather is also displayed rather than spoken
according to yesterday's mess about. So how do you get Siri to speak the
weather then?


Christopher Hallsworth

On 25/10/2012 02:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of interaction,
I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more information
displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population
of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she
displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls,
or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying
otherwise.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. -
E. Joseph Cossman
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:

Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Chris,

I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both
for
asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
works
fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
Hallsworth
and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
to say,
SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
the
home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply
speak
your message and SIRI will hear it.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
least
I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello Chris.

Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

Kawal.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is
the

fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
hello,
it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
then
asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she
told me
about the Weather app opening.

I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice

Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!

Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no

problem.


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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-25 Thread James Mannion
That is the big disadvantage in my opinion of using the weather app
that comes in IOS or SIRI getting data from it. Yahoo weather just
doesn't seem to be all that accurate, especially in microclimates. I'm
sure people's experiences probably differ though.

On 10/25/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Hi, it gets it from the local weather app which comes on the iPhone. I
 think the app gets it from Yahoo weather if I remember right. Although
 you can ask Siri about the weather in different cities all over the
 world, I think it still uses the same weather source and I don't think
 you can change it.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. - Mark Twain
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

 On 10/25/2012 1:10 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
 Does Siri pull the weather data from the native weather app? Is there a
 way to get Siri to read weather from other apps, such as MenuWeather?
 MenuWeather seems to more accurately reflect the weather condisions in my
 micro-climate.

 Thanks. Keith

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:07 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

 Just say, what's the weather today and she will tell you. If Voice
 Over is off she'll just tell you the temp, but if Voice Over is on, you
 will get the temp, plus whatever shows up on the screen. Like the high
 and low for the day.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
 what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. - Mark Twain
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

 On 10/25/2012 12:55 PM, Chris wrote:
 It would appear the weather is also displayed rather than spoken
 according to yesterday's mess about. So how do you get Siri to speak the
 weather then?


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 25/10/2012 02:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of
 interaction,
 I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more
 information
 displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population
 of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she
 displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
 However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls,
 or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying
 otherwise.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. -
 E. Joseph Cossman
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

 On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:
 Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
 more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hi Chris,

 I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time
 both
 for
 asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
 works
 fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
 automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
 Hallsworth
 and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
 to say,
 SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
 Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
 the
 home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can
 simply
 speak
 your message and SIRI will hear it.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chris
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

 Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
 least
 I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hello Chris.

 Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

 Kawal.

 On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is
 the
 fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
 hello,
 it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
 then
 asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app.
 The
 carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she
 told me
 about the Weather app opening.
 I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice
 Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
 unusually

Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-24 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello Chris.

Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over. 

Kawal.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the fact 
 it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said hello, it said 
 hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I then asked what 
 the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The carer is fully 
 sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she told me about the 
 Weather app opening.
 I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice Dictation 
 apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my unusually high 
 voice at all. Yet Siri does!
 Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
 I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no problem.
 
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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-24 Thread Chris
Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at 
least I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello Chris.

Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

Kawal.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the fact it 
just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said hello, it said 
hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I then asked what 
the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The carer is fully 
sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she told me about the Weather 
app opening.
I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice Dictation 
apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my unusually high 
voice at all. Yet Siri does!
Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no problem.

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RE: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Chris,

I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both for
asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It works
fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher Hallsworth
and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message to say,
SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press the
home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply speak
your message and SIRI will hear it. 


Regards,
Sieghard
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at least
I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hello Chris.

 Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

 Kawal.

 On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the
fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said hello,
it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I then
asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she told me
about the Weather app opening.
 I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice
Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!
 Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
 I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no
problem.

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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-24 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of interaction, 
I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more information 
displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population 
of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she 
displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over. 
However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls, 
or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying 
otherwise.


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On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:

Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Chris,

I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both
for
asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
works
fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
Hallsworth
and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
to say,
SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press the
home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply
speak
your message and SIRI will hear it.


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
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Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
least
I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Hello Chris.

Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

Kawal.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:


I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the

fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
hello,
it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
then
asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
carer is fully sighted so of course does not need VoiceOver. But she
told me
about the Weather app opening.

I just find this amazing because I tried a few third party Voice

Dictation apps, namely Vokul, on my iPhone 4, and they do not like my
unusually high voice at all. Yet Siri does!

Just some thought from a prospective Siri user.
I also felt her iPhone 5. It's really nice and feel I can use it no

problem.


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Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-24 Thread Wayne Merritt
I was skeptical of Siri when I heard of it last year with the 4S. I
stuck with my iPhone 4 and wondered what all the fuss was about. It
sounded interesting, but nothing I would really use. Since I have
gotten an iPhone 5 2 weeks ago, I have started using Siri and the
dictation feature on the virtual keyboard a lot more. I still have
times when the dictation or Siri will misunderstand me. Sometimes it
has happened 3 or 4 times in a row with Siri and I gave up. With
dictation, it happens the first time but the second time it gets what
I'm saying correct. I use it most often when filling out the mobile
web form to schedule taxi service with my local cab company. I used to
use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard for this task, but now I can just
speak my phrases for what I want to fill in the various fields, or use
the virtual keyboard to type in corrections or short items in the
fields. Last night was the crowning moment for me and when I knew that
Siri was going to be very helpful. I was riding with my fiance and we
were trying to make our way back from going out to eat. She's someone
who relies heavily on GPS. She pulled over and when she was typing in
the GPS our destination, i asked Siri to direct us to my home address.
I recall hearing on a podcast recently that you need to turn VoiceOver
off when in the maps app and when getting spoken directions. I did
this, and soon afterward, we started getting exact directions. We even
went off route since we were not able to make a certain turn, and the
voice caught it and redirected us back to the original route. Both my
fiance and I were very impressed with the task and Siri's performance
in maps. It's a nice feeling to be able to ask Siri how to get to a
certain address and be told exactly where to go. Siri and I are not
communicating perfectly all of the time yet, but we're getting there,
and possibilities are starting to form for me for things I can use
Siri and dictation for.

when I heard of people last year that used dictation, I found myself
asking, Why not just type in the item you lazy person? Now though,
it is so much easier to say what you want typed in and then do short
corrections, rather than messing with typing things in. I am not to
the point of dictating medium to long text messages correctly every
time, but slowly getting there.

Regards,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/24/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of interaction,
 I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get more information
 displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri what the population
 of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by speaking it, instead, she
 displays the information. So, in this case y ou have to use Voice Over.
 However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls,
 or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying
 otherwise.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. -
 E. Joseph Cossman
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

 On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:
 Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It seems
 more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hi Chris,

 I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time both
 for
 asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for dictation. It
 works
 fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not turned on SIRI will
 automatically listen if, for example, you say Text Christopher
 Hallsworth
 and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message
 to say,
 SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to Christopher
 Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double tap or press
 the
 home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is off you can simply
 speak
 your message and SIRI will hear it.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Chris
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

 Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as at
 least
 I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an iPhone 4s or 5.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hello Chris.

 Before you buy your  phone 5, you should try Siri with Voice Over.

 Kawal.

 On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried Siri on a carer's iPhone 5 today. What I can't get over is the
 fact it just recognized my voice instantly without training. I said
 hello,
 it said hello back. Then I said how are you? It said I'm very well. I
 then
 asked what the weather is like. It then brought up the Weather app. The
 carer

RE: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

2012-10-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Wayne,

That sounds good, however, if you get to a point where you feel SIRI
understands you better than your fiance you better seek professional help
*smile*.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

I was skeptical of Siri when I heard of it last year with the 4S. I stuck
with my iPhone 4 and wondered what all the fuss was about. It sounded
interesting, but nothing I would really use. Since I have gotten an iPhone 5
2 weeks ago, I have started using Siri and the dictation feature on the
virtual keyboard a lot more. I still have times when the dictation or Siri
will misunderstand me. Sometimes it has happened 3 or 4 times in a row with
Siri and I gave up. With dictation, it happens the first time but the second
time it gets what I'm saying correct. I use it most often when filling out
the mobile web form to schedule taxi service with my local cab company. I
used to use the Apple Bluetooth keyboard for this task, but now I can just
speak my phrases for what I want to fill in the various fields, or use the
virtual keyboard to type in corrections or short items in the fields. Last
night was the crowning moment for me and when I knew that Siri was going to
be very helpful. I was riding with my fiance and we were trying to make our
way back from going out to eat. She's someone who relies heavily on GPS. She
pulled over and when she was typing in the GPS our destination, i asked Siri
to direct us to my home address.
I recall hearing on a podcast recently that you need to turn VoiceOver off
when in the maps app and when getting spoken directions. I did this, and
soon afterward, we started getting exact directions. We even went off route
since we were not able to make a certain turn, and the voice caught it and
redirected us back to the original route. Both my fiance and I were very
impressed with the task and Siri's performance in maps. It's a nice feeling
to be able to ask Siri how to get to a certain address and be told exactly
where to go. Siri and I are not communicating perfectly all of the time yet,
but we're getting there, and possibilities are starting to form for me for
things I can use Siri and dictation for.

when I heard of people last year that used dictation, I found myself asking,
Why not just type in the item you lazy person? Now though, it is so much
easier to say what you want typed in and then do short corrections, rather
than messing with typing things in. I am not to the point of dictating
medium to long text messages correctly every time, but slowly getting there.

Regards,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/24/12, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Yes I agree. In fact if I am going to use Siri for a lot of 
 interaction, I disable Voice Over. Now there are cases where you get 
 more information displayed on the screen. For example if I ask Siri 
 what the population of Chicago is, she will tell me, but not by 
 speaking it, instead, she displays the information. So, in this case y ou
have to use Voice Over.
 However for the weather, scheduling reminders, meetings, making calls, 
 or sending texts, I definitely turn off Voice Over as it gets annoying 
 otherwise.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 The best way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget is once. 
 - E. Joseph Cossman Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

 On 10/24/2012 2:23 PM, Chris wrote:
 Oh ok I like the idea of having no VoiceOver when I use Siri. It 
 seems more logical and more like a natural conversation this way.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 24/10/2012 17:26, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hi Chris,

 I use SIRI with my iPhone 4S and Voiceover turned on all the time 
 both for asking it to dial numbers, for asking questions and for 
 dictation. It works fine, only thing is that if Voiceover is not 
 turned on SIRI will automatically listen if, for example, you say 
 Text Christopher Hallsworth
 and if you not follow right away with what you want the text message 
 to say, SIRI will say something ike What do you want to say to 
 Christopher Hallsworth. If you have Voiceover on you have to double 
 tap or press the home key again to make SIRI listen, if Voiceover is 
 off you can simply speak your message and SIRI will hear it.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Chris
 Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: My thoughts on Siri and the iPhone 5

 Ok, this is where the iPod Touch or iPad or iPad Mini comes in, as 
 at least I can try Siri with VoiceOver before committing to an 
 iPhone 4s or 5.


 Christopher Hallsworth

 On 24/10/2012 16:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 Hello Chris.

 Before you buy your  phone 5, you should