Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-20 Thread Robert Doc Wright 

here are those steps:

1. go to the memo you wish to copy
2. change rotor to edit
3. swipe down or up with 1 finger to select all then double tap.
4. Swipe down to copy and double tap
5. go to where you want the message to be pasted.
6. change rotor to edit
7. swipe down to paste and double tap.
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From: "Paul Richard McGann" <rkmcg...@comcast.net>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10



sieghard,

yes, sometimes some issues can work, and if double-tap, then use rotor bar 
and to chek again until see some actions. then double-tap. that is it.


sometimes they don't always work.

for example apple staff claimed thatif I want copy memo for email to 
message, I did follow what staff said: use rotor bar, find edit, then 
double-tap, then go for slelect all, or slelecft left, or lect right, I 
did try select all, and double-tap, thennothing happens as I can't find 
"py7" as I look around and can't find. then when I went to message and got 
into bodily box, and tried paste, as I hit lect all and nohting happens. 
looks like apple is missing something. hope this heps.


sincerely,
rich


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 3:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

Hi Eden,

What do you mean by "I swear it worked correctly"? As far as I am 
concerned it does work correctly and it definitely always has worked this 
way, they just have to fix the labelling. I definitely hope they don't 
make it so a double tap immediately after the initial double tap to start 
arranging apps will go straight to delete. I think most of use the Move 
function a lot more than the delete function so being able to swipe 
up/down to Arrange Apps and do quickly do a double tap followed by another 
double tap without having to swipe is definitely very nice and it gets you 
to where you can move an app very quickly and efficiently.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Eden

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to 
Todd. Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now 
does not. Wonder if it was an update that broke it.


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From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10




Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that 
there is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are 
labelled.


What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double 
tap on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:


Activate, default
Move Facebook

However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on 
Arrange Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without 
swiping up or down you end up activating the Move function and not the 
delete function, so "Move" is actually the default.
. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context 
it would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" 
and it should further say "Move Facebook, default".


In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that 
doesn't mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the 
labelling/instructions by making it so the "Activate" option says 
"Delete" or "Remove0..



Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread Todd Patkus 
Richard,

 

Nope.  I am unable to delete such!

 

I can delete while in texting mode.  I chord d to delete letters.  But cannot 
delete apps.  That one sucks.  That is all.

 

Todd

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

 

 

Todd,

You have been able to delete apps since the first iPhone came out.

The only issue now is the spoken label is not exact, but the delete function 
still works.

I Hope That Helps,

Richard

 

“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."

- Satsuki Shibuya

 

 

(Sent from my iPod 6)


On Nov 19, 2016, at 1:55 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com 
<mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

hi, I noticed it, but thought you couldn't delete apps that way, and left it at 
that.

On 19/11/2016 08:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

 

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the “Activate” and “Move” options are labelled.

 

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on “Arrange Apps” is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

 

Activate, default

Move Facebook

 

However, in this case “Activate” which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so “Move” is actually 
the default.

. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply “Activate” or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said “Delete” or “Remove” and it 
should further say “Move Facebook, default”.

 

In order to save myself some time I am CC’ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it’s not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I’m the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn’t mean they 
can’t fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
“Activate” option says “Delete” or “Remove”.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread Pablo C. Morales 
I haven’t taken any problem deleting apps. More over I  was able to delete apps 
that I never needed, and I really like this flexibility to let me choose what I 
want and what no.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

 

hi, I noticed it, but thought you couldn't delete apps that way, and left it at 
that.

On 19/11/2016 08:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

 

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the “Activate” and “Move” options are labelled.

 

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on “Arrange Apps” is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

 

Activate, default

Move Facebook

 

However, in this case “Activate” which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so “Move” is actually 
the default.

. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply “Activate” or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said “Delete” or “Remove” and it 
should further say “Move Facebook, default”.

 

In order to save myself some time I am CC’ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it’s not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I’m the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn’t mean they 
can’t fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
“Activate” option says “Delete” or “Remove”.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread Paul Richard McGann 

sieghard,

yes, sometimes some issues can work, and if double-tap, then use rotor bar 
and to chek again until see some actions. then double-tap. that is it.


sometimes they don't always work.

for example apple staff claimed thatif I want copy memo for email to 
message, I did follow what staff said: use rotor bar, find edit, then 
double-tap, then go for slelect all, or slelecft left, or lect right, I did 
try select all, and double-tap, thennothing happens as I can't find "py7" as 
I look around and can't find. then when I went to message and got into 
bodily box, and tried paste, as I hit lect all and nohting happens. looks 
like apple is missing something. hope this heps.


sincerely,
rich


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 3:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

Hi Eden,

What do you mean by "I swear it worked correctly"? As far as I am concerned 
it does work correctly and it definitely always has worked this way, they 
just have to fix the labelling. I definitely hope they don't make it so a 
double tap immediately after the initial double tap to start arranging apps 
will go straight to delete. I think most of use the Move function a lot more 
than the delete function so being able to swipe up/down to Arrange Apps and 
do quickly do a double tap followed by another double tap without having to 
swipe is definitely very nice and it gets you to where you can move an app 
very quickly and efficiently.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Eden

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to 
Todd. Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now does 
not. Wonder if it was an update that broke it.


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From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10




Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that 
there is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are 
labelled.


What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double 
tap on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:


Activate, default
Move Facebook

However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on 
Arrange Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without swiping 
up or down you end up activating the Move function and not the delete 
function, so "Move" is actually the default.
. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and 
it should further say "Move Facebook, default".


In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that 
doesn't mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the 
labelling/instructions by making it so the "Activate" option says "Delete" 
or "Remove0..



Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread Richard Turner 

Todd,
You have been able to delete apps since the first iPhone came out.
The only issue now is the spoken label is not exact, but the delete function 
still works.
I Hope That Helps,
Richard


"By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya


(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Nov 19, 2016, at 1:55 AM, rajmund 
> wrote:

hi, I noticed it, but thought you couldn't delete apps that way, and left it at 
that.
On 19/11/2016 08:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are labelled.

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

Activate, default
Move Facebook

However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so "Move" is actually 
the default.
. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and it 
should further say "Move Facebook, default".

In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't mean they 
can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
"Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove".


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread rajmund 
hi, I noticed it, but thought you couldn't delete apps that way, and 
left it at that.

On 19/11/2016 08:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps 
that there is a small mistake in how the “Activate” and “Move” options 
are labelled.


What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and 
double tap on “Arrange Apps” is this (I am using the Facebook app as 
an example:


Activate, default

Move Facebook

However, in this case “Activate” which would prompt you to delete the 
Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on 
Arrange Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without 
swiping up or down you end up activating the Move function and not the 
delete function, so “Move” is actually the default.


. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply “Activate” or, in this 
context it would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said “Delete” 
or “Remove” and it should further say “Move Facebook, default”.


In order to save myself some time I am CC’ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it’s not a big deal and since nobody has brought this 
up before I assume I’m the first one to actually notice this, but that 
doesn’t mean they can’t fix it and in fact improve the 
labelling/instructions by making it so the “Activate” option says 
“Delete” or “Remove”.


Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread Todd Patkus 
Sieghard,

Yes, the delete feature for iOS should have been enhanced long ago!  But now, 
that it has been brought up to the attention to the staff at Apple 
Accessibility.

Do not forget Microsoft has always had delete.  The, Apple should have done so.

In Windows of any version has delete for years.  Therefore, it should have 
already been enhanced.

We will see what they do.

Todd

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

Hi Eden,

What do you mean by "I swear it worked correctly"? As far as I am concerned it 
does work correctly and it definitely always has worked this way, they just 
have to fix the labelling. I definitely hope they don't make it so a double tap 
immediately after the initial double tap to start arranging apps will go 
straight to delete. I think most of use the Move function a lot more than the 
delete function so being able to swipe up/down to Arrange Apps and do quickly 
do a double tap followed by another double tap without having to swipe is 
definitely very nice and it gets you to where you can move an app very quickly 
and efficiently.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Eden
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to Todd. 
Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now does not. 
Wonder if it was an update that broke it. 

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From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

>
>
> Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,
>  
> I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
> is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are labelled.
>  
> What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
> on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:
>  
> Activate, default
> Move Facebook
>  
> However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
> Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange 
> Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down 
> you end up activating the Move function and not the delete function, so 
> "Move" is actually the default.
> . Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
> would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and it 
> should further say "Move Facebook, default".
>  
> In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
> Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
> before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't 
> mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by 
> making it so the "Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove0..
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Todd,

I still think once you know the correct braille commands this will work 
perfectly well, what I described in my email is not at all taking away from the 
functionality of moving or deleting apps, it is simply a small labelling issue.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: accessibil...@apple.com
Subject: RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

To all:

Now, you Apple staff, see where you are missing out.

You should have done this long before but never have you done so.  Now, you 
should do something about the issue here.

You cannot exclude deafblind like this.  You have many customers who are 
deafblind who are strong Braille users.  Look at me a strong Braille user.  
Rich McGann as a strong Braille user.  Therefore, for all, you need to do more 
than that!

Based on ADA Title III Public Accommodations, we deafblind have every right as 
the “normal” folks do.  That means we deafblind have the same rights as the 
majority does!

Please, Apple staff, take this into consideration to do something about this 
type of issue.

Thank y’all.

Todd

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Cc: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
<accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>>
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the “Activate” and “Move” options are labelled.

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on “Arrange Apps” is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

Activate, default
Move Facebook

However, in this case “Activate” which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so “Move” is actually 
the default.
. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply “Activate” or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said “Delete” or “Remove” and it 
should further say “Move Facebook, default”.

In order to save myself some time I am CC’ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it’s not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I’m the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn’t mean they 
can’t fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
“Activate” option says “Delete” or “Remove”.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread Eden 
I just meant it used to say delete is all. In other words it was labelled 
correctly. I used wrong wording. Apologies. Yes it works fine. Once you know 
what it now says, what you described works beautifully. 
Eden

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:33 am
Subject: RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

>
>
> Hi Eden,
> 
> What do you mean by "I swear it worked correctly"? As far as I am concerned 
> it does work correctly and it definitely always has worked this way, they 
> just have to fix the labelling. I definitely hope they don't make it so a 
> double tap immediately after the initial double tap to start arranging apps 
> will go straight to delete. I think most of use the Move function a lot more 
> than the delete function so being able to swipe up/down to Arrange Apps and 
> do quickly do a double tap followed by another double tap without having to 
> swipe is definitely very nice and it gets you to where you can move an app 
> very quickly and efficiently.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eden
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10
> 
> This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to Todd. 
> Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now does not. 
> Wonder if it was an update that broke it. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
> Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,
> >  
> > I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that 
> > there is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are 
> > labelled.
> >  
> > What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double 
> > tap on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:
> >  
> > Activate, default
> > Move Facebook
> >  
> > However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
> > Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on 
> > Arrange Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without swiping 
> > up or down you end up activating the Move function and not the delete 
> > function, so "Move" is actually the default.
> > . Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
> > would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and 
> > it should further say "Move Facebook, default".
> >  
> > In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
> > Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
> > before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't 
> > mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by 
> > making it so the "Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove0..
> >  
> >  
> > Best regards,
> > Sieghard
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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread Todd Patkus 
To all:

 

Now, you Apple staff, see where you are missing out.

 

You should have done this long before but never have you done so.  Now, you 
should do something about the issue here.

 

You cannot exclude deafblind like this.  You have many customers who are 
deafblind who are strong Braille users.  Look at me a strong Braille user.  
Rich McGann as a strong Braille user.  Therefore, for all, you need to do more 
than that!

 

Based on ADA Title III Public Accommodations, we deafblind have every right as 
the “normal” folks do.  That means we deafblind have the same rights as the 
majority does!

 

Please, Apple staff, take this into consideration to do something about this 
type of issue.

 

Thank y’all.

 

Todd

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'accessibil...@apple.com' 
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

 

Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,

 

I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
is a small mistake in how the “Activate” and “Move” options are labelled.

 

What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
on “Arrange Apps” is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:

 

Activate, default

Move Facebook

 

However, in this case “Activate” which would prompt you to delete the Facebook 
app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange Apps and 
then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down you end up 
activating the Move function and not the delete function, so “Move” is actually 
the default.

. Therefore, Voiceover should say simply “Activate” or, in this context it 
would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said “Delete” or “Remove” and it 
should further say “Move Facebook, default”.

 

In order to save myself some time I am CC’ing this email also to Apple 
Accessibility, it’s not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up before 
I assume I’m the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn’t mean they 
can’t fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by making it so the 
“Activate” option says “Delete” or “Remove”.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Eden,

What do you mean by "I swear it worked correctly"? As far as I am concerned it 
does work correctly and it definitely always has worked this way, they just 
have to fix the labelling. I definitely hope they don't make it so a double tap 
immediately after the initial double tap to start arranging apps will go 
straight to delete. I think most of use the Move function a lot more than the 
delete function so being able to swipe up/down to Arrange Apps and do quickly 
do a double tap followed by another double tap without having to swipe is 
definitely very nice and it gets you to where you can move an app very quickly 
and efficiently.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eden
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to Todd. 
Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now does not. 
Wonder if it was an update that broke it. 

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From: Sieghard Weitzel  <siegh...@live.ca>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

>
>
> Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,
>  
> I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
> is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are labelled.
>  
> What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
> on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:
>  
> Activate, default
> Move Facebook
>  
> However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
> Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange 
> Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down 
> you end up activating the Move function and not the delete function, so 
> "Move" is actually the default.
> . Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
> would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and it 
> should further say "Move Facebook, default".
>  
> In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
> Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
> before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't 
> mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by 
> making it so the "Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove0..
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

2016-11-19 Thread Eden 
This is interesting. I just noticed this too after trying to explain to Todd. 
Interestingly enough, I swear it worked correctly before but now does not. 
Wonder if it was an update that broke it. 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Saturday, November 19, 2016 12:20 am
Subject: Small bug with labelling when moving apps in iOS 10

>
>
> Hi List and Apple Accessibility Team,
>  
> I just realized when I tried to explain to Todd how to delete apps that there 
> is a small mistake in how the "Activate" and "Move" options are labelled.
>  
> What Voiceover actually says if you swipe up or down on an app and double tap 
> on "Arrange Apps" is this (I am using the Facebook app as an example:
>  
> Activate, default
> Move Facebook
>  
> However, in this case "Activate" which would prompt you to delete the 
> Facebook app is actually not the default because if you double tap on Arrange 
> Apps and then double tap a second time immediately without swiping up or down 
> you end up activating the Move function and not the delete function, so 
> "Move" is actually the default.
> . Therefore, Voiceover should say simply "Activate" or, in this context it 
> would actually be more accurate if Voiceover said "Delete" or "Remove" and it 
> should further say "Move Facebook, default".
>  
> In order to save myself some time I am CC'ing this email also to Apple 
> Accessibility, it's not a big deal and since nobody has brought this up 
> before I assume I'm the first one to actually notice this, but that doesn't 
> mean they can't fix it and in fact improve the labelling/instructions by 
> making it so the "Activate" option says "Delete" or "Remove0..
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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