RE: Specialty talking devices, was: Color identifiers.
I hate to say this, but none of the iPhone apps work well for color identification. I use my stand-alone daily, sometimes it gets a bit confused, calling a gray top purple but it is fairly consistent about that and once in a while it actually says gray, but it works reliably enough and no one has ever told me I mismatch my colors, especially important since I currently am alone most of the time. BTW I got my talking Time Christmas of 1980 and it is still working, keeping time, alarm working. Also have a Sharp calculator that still works well. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Frank Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Specialty talking devices, was: Color identifiers. I agree with Sieghard. I bought a color identifier from Maxiaids a couple of years ago at an ACB convention and it is still working well. The cost was around $125. All of the color identifier apps I have on my IPhone are iffy at best. I've given up on color apps and use my stand alone daily. Tom Frank vermont...@gmail.com On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Specialty talking devices, was: Color identifiers.
Oh, your clock had my age. Fine coming to the point, is the stand alone colour identifier still available to buy? If you can help me out with that I am really interested to buy one. Sent from my iPhone On 24-Mar-2013, at 6:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Annie, I also have purchased various colour identifier apps over the years and found that none of them work very good. Maybe somebody could try something like ColorVisor with the Standscan to see if the good lighting will help, but if I want really good results I still take the stand alone colour identifier I bought from Maxiaids in New York many years ago. I can't remember what it was called, but I think it was around $150, not cheap but it has given me lots of trusty colour advice over the years and most likely will still do so 10 years from now. I think it identifies 150 colours and will say stuff like very light blue, light blue, dark blue, intensive red, pale pink etc. Some of these specialty devices aren't cheap, but they work very reliably and in my opinion are worth the money in th elong run. One other example is my first Sharp Talking clock. I lost my sight in 1984 and I believe this was the first talking product my parents gave me as a present and I think it was over 200 Marks at the time, but it is just about 30 years old and still works fine, it has alarm, count down timer and stop watch and all it does is run a bit fast so that I usually set it when I change it to summer and winter time and maybe once in between. I can't even remember how many years ago I put in 2 new Double A batteries and it hangs on my bedpost by it's wrist loop and just works. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Color identifiers. Hi all. Which color identifier works at the moment. I have tried colorvisor, but it will not work. I have tried colorassist not very good too. Can anyone recommend a color identifier that works. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Specialty talking devices, was: Color identifiers.
I agree with Sieghard. I bought a color identifier from Maxiaids a couple of years ago at an ACB convention and it is still working well. The cost was around $125. All of the color identifier apps I have on my IPhone are iffy at best. I've given up on color apps and use my stand alone daily. Tom Frank vermont...@gmail.com On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Specialty talking devices, was: Color identifiers.
Hi, I bought mine several years ago but I do know they still have them. I got mine from Frontier Computing in Toronto. I think they come from England so, they probably can still be purchased just about anywhere in the world. Not absolutely sure of the spelling but it is called Cobolt. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Srikanth Kanuri Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Specialty talking devices, was: Color identifiers. Oh, your clock had my age. Fine coming to the point, is the stand alone colour identifier still available to buy? If you can help me out with that I am really interested to buy one. Sent from my iPhone On 24-Mar-2013, at 6:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Annie, I also have purchased various colour identifier apps over the years and found that none of them work very good. Maybe somebody could try something like ColorVisor with the Standscan to see if the good lighting will help, but if I want really good results I still take the stand alone colour identifier I bought from Maxiaids in New York many years ago. I can't remember what it was called, but I think it was around $150, not cheap but it has given me lots of trusty colour advice over the years and most likely will still do so 10 years from now. I think it identifies 150 colours and will say stuff like very light blue, light blue, dark blue, intensive red, pale pink etc. Some of these specialty devices aren't cheap, but they work very reliably and in my opinion are worth the money in th elong run. One other example is my first Sharp Talking clock. I lost my sight in 1984 and I believe this was the first talking product my parents gave me as a present and I think it was over 200 Marks at the time, but it is just about 30 years old and still works fine, it has alarm, count down timer and stop watch and all it does is run a bit fast so that I usually set it when I change it to summer and winter time and maybe once in between. I can't even remember how many years ago I put in 2 new Double A batteries and it hangs on my bedpost by it's wrist loop and just works. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Color identifiers. Hi all. Which color identifier works at the moment. I have tried colorvisor, but it will not work. I have tried colorassist not very good too. Can anyone recommend a color identifier that works. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http
Re: Specialty talking devices, was: Color identifiers.
The reason colour identifier apps on the iPhone is that colour is not a solid concept. Colour identifiers measure frequency wavelengths. The problem is, these wavelengths change depending on the amount of light which is reflecting off the item. The stronger (brighter) the light, the lighter the colour. Weaker (dimmer) light equates to darker colour. That said, too much light washes out colour. It is similar to the problems many blind people have when using the iPhone as an OCR device. As shading goes away, text, and colour, become easier to recognise; until the light gets too bright. At that point, text and colour become quite difficult to recognise. The stand-alone colour identifiers are designed to be pressed to an object. They have a uniform light level so that they are always able to give consistent results. The spacing between the outer edge of the detector and the lens is controlled so that the proper amount of light and colour frequency gets to the lens. Just like with text, one can learn to get consistent, accurate results using the iPhone. Also like OCR, It is very difficult to do so. The light level (brightness) must be uniform every time the colour identifier app is used. The distance the camera is from the object must also be uniform every time. Change either factor and the readings start changing. Again, this is not because colour identifiers are broken / do not work on the iPhone. Appearance of colour changes based on light and shading. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 25/03/2013, at 4:34, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi Sieghard, Your colour identifier sounds a lot like mine. I think mine is called a Cobolt made in England. It has a really good British accent. It was $150 in Canadian dollars and is worth every cent I paid for it. I have not found anything for the IPhone that works reliably enough to count on. I grinned when you mentioned your Sharp clock. I got one of those in 1981 or 82. It was hanging on my headboard like yours until about 2 years ago when it died. Changed the two AA batteries every 2 or 3 years and that was it. It also travelled all over the world with me. Sometimes its worth biting the bullet and paying for the stand alone device. If anyone thinks the IPhone is the be all and end all to blindness, they are in for a disappointment If I put together the money I spent on the many apps to identify colours on the IPhone, it would have been a great discount on my Cobolt, and ,it, works! Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Specialty talking devices, was: Color identifiers. Hi Annie, I also have purchased various colour identifier apps over the years and found that none of them work very good. Maybe somebody could try something like ColorVisor with the Standscan to see if the good lighting will help, but if I want really good results I still take the stand alone colour identifier I bought from Maxiaids in New York many years ago. I can't remember what it was called, but I think it was around $150, not cheap but it has given me lots of trusty colour advice over the years and most likely will still do so 10 years from now. I think it identifies 150 colours and will say stuff like very light blue, light blue, dark blue, intensive red, pale pink etc. Some of these specialty devices aren't cheap, but they work very reliably and in my opinion are worth the money in th elong run. One other example is my first Sharp Talking clock. I lost my sight in 1984 and I believe this was the first talking product my parents gave me as a present and I think it was over 200 Marks at the time, but it is just about 30 years old and still works fine, it has alarm, count down timer and stop watch and all it does is run a bit fast so that I usually set it when I change it to summer and winter time and maybe once in between. I can't even remember how many years ago I put in 2 new Double A batteries and it hangs on my bedpost by it's wrist loop and just works. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Color identifiers. Hi all. Which color identifier works at the moment. I have tried colorvisor, but it will not work. I have tried colorassist not very good too. Can anyone recommend a color identifier that works. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group,
