Re: Voiceover draining battery since 10.1 update

[Sherrie]

I have had some occasional battery issues with my 6S in the last month or so 
but have not gone to 10.1.1 yet.

I would wake up with a 100% charge and then get the low battery before noon 
even when I was not using the phone at all. Then I would use the battery case 
to recharge and that got used up and I had to actually plug the phone in. It 
did this for two days this weekend before I thought to reboot. Fixed the 
problem for now. I imagine that is what probably fixed it a month ago but I 
wasn’t paying attention to why it started working normally.
I really need to remember that rebooting can fix many problems!
Sherrie Gosling


From: Chip Orange 
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

It sounded like a battery issue to me (their performance is degraded at colder 
temperatures, but it sounds like you had a defective one).

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

Hello Chip,

 

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

  On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

   

  Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

   

  Chip

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
  Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

   

  There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

   

  Chip

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
  Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

   

  I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

  The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

   

  Cheers,

   

  Anne

   

   

   

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

 

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This 
type of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. Ho

RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, if you want to power down your iPhone or other iOS device press and hold 
the power button, after about 2 or 3 seconds a message comes up on the screen 
and there is a “Power Off” and “Cancel” button, double tap on “Power Off” and 
the phone will shut down.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 5:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

And how do you turn off the phone completely without a hard reboot?  I am 
unsure, do you just hold down the power button for some number of seconds 
without holding down the home button?

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

This would mean just to do a power cycle, turn off the phone completely, wait 
about 30 seconds and then turn it on again.
I rarely find a reason to use the power button + home key combination to to a 
hard reboot.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hi Sieghard,

just to clarify, when you say reboot, do you mean, turning your handset off and 
back on again, or a hard reboot, with the power and home key?

Dave.

From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Chip,

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

Cheers,

Anne



On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange 
<lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: vi

RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Chip Orange]

My mistake, correctly in next message to 10.1.1.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

The 10.2 update doesn’t show on my phone yet.  Is this still in beta? 

God bless!

Paula and Boston

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards, 

Feliciano 

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Feliciano,

 

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

Regards, 

Feliciano 

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Chip Orange]

And how do you turn off the phone completely without a hard reboot?  I am 
unsure, do you just hold down the power button for some number of seconds 
without holding down the home button?

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

This would mean just to do a power cycle, turn off the phone completely, wait 
about 30 seconds and then turn it on again.

I rarely find a reason to use the power button + home key combination to to a 
hard reboot.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

just to clarify, when you say reboot, do you mean, turning your handset off and 
back on again, or a hard reboot, with the power and home key?

 

Dave.

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:02 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

Hello Chip,

 

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

 

Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

 

Chip

 

 

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

 

Chip

 

 

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

 

Che

RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Chip Orange]

It sounded like a battery issue to me (their performance is degraded at colder 
temperatures, but it sounds like you had a defective one).

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

Hello Chip,

 

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

 

Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

 

Chip

 

 

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

 

Chip

 

 

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy < <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards, 

Feliciano

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson < <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com> 
annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Feliciano,

 

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Yes it is.

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> On Nov 4, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan <pau...@roadrunner.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> The 10.2 update doesn’t show on my phone yet.  Is this still in beta? 
> God bless!
> Paula and Boston
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
> see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
>> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
>> about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and 
>> see the battery life difference.
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Feliciano
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>> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
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>> 
>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>>  
>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>>  
>>> Anne
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
>>>> having.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> Feliciano
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>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello fellow listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
>>>>> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>>>>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
>>>>> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>>>>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
>>>>> between 4 and 5% per hour.
>>>>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
>>>>> was no noticeable battery drain.
>>>>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Rajmund]

Hi,
Yes, it is.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Paul and Paula Jordan  <pau...@roadrunner.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 4, 2016 6:38 pm
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

>
>
> The 10.2 update doesn't show on my phone yet.  Is this still in beta? 
> God bless!
> Paula and Boston
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you'd like to try this to 
> see if it's a bug they've already fixed?
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I'm currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I'll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn't be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about 
> if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
> battery life difference.
> 
> Regards, 
> Feliciano 
> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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> 
> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Feliciano,
>  
> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>  
> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.
> 
> Regards, 
> Feliciano 
> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
> 
> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello fellow listers,
> 
> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps 
> in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
> and 5% per hour.
> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was 
> no noticeable battery drain.
> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
> 
> I've reported this to Apple Accessibility.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

The 10.2 update doesn’t show on my phone yet.  Is this still in beta? 

God bless!

Paula and Boston

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards, 

Feliciano 

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Feliciano,

 

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

Regards, 

Feliciano 

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This would mean just to do a power cycle, turn off the phone completely, wait 
about 30 seconds and then turn it on again.
I rarely find a reason to use the power button + home key combination to to a 
hard reboot.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 1:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hi Sieghard,

just to clarify, when you say reboot, do you mean, turning your handset off and 
back on again, or a hard reboot, with the power and home key?

Dave.

From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Chip,

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

Cheers,

Anne



On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange 
<lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards,
Feliciano
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Dave]

Hi Sieghard,

just to clarify, when you say reboot, do you mean, turning your handset off and 
back on again, or a hard reboot, with the power and home key?

Dave.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

Hello Chip,

 

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

  On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

   

  Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

   

  Chip

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
  Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

   

  There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

   

  Chip

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
  Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

   

  I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

  The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

   

  Cheers,

   

  Anne

   

   

   

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

 

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This 
type of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see 
the battery life difference.

Regards, 

Feliciano

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hello Feliciano,

   

  I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

   

  Cheers,

   

  Anne

   

   

   

On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

 

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
having.

Regards, 

Feliciano

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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sieghard,

I, too, have had iPhones since June 2009 and this is the first one to crash on 
me. It isn’t as though I don’t use it for much either. I do a lot of reading on 
my iPhone, as well as using OCR, GPS, barcode recognition, Talking Goggles, 
Light Detector, news apps, and so on.
I shut down my iPhone every night, too.
Restoring to factory settings isn’t too bad for me as I back up my iPhone to my 
Mac, so no apps to download.

Cheers,

Anne




> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:26, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Lucky for you, you must be the one in a million.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 7:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I have owned an iPhone since the 3GS in 2009, and have never had a crash. 
> Can’t say the same for computers. LOL!
> Andy
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
> There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
> because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about 
> and when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so 
> even when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see 
> it shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period 
> of time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
> degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
> phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
> iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
> it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store 
> ran the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested 
> that it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this 
> helps to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been 
> rebooted for a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the 
> problem of my phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple 
> Store, explained the issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that 
> this sounded strange and since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. 
> Since this was a warranty replacement and not an accidental damage 
> replacement this didn’t cost me a dime except of course the time it took to 
> get my new phone going again. Since it’s been some time when I set up as a 
> new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is not home so I had brought my 
> laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice guy at the “setup table” 
> helped me throughout the process since I had all my apps on my laptop with 
> the latest updates and thought it would be faster to sync them than to 
> redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not currently possible 
> with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all the apps I 
> wanted and then got the sync going.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> Hello Chip,
>  
> I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the 
> crash log to Apple.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net 
> <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>  
> Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
> see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Feliciano,

After a restore to factory settings, my phone is behaving perfectly again. So, 
for the time being, I’ll leave it up to Apple to try to figure out what’s going 
on.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:08, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> At this point, you can delete all the third-party applications and see if the 
> problem still persists. It would be a big sacrifice, but if you want to 
> continue troubleshooting...
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
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> 
> On Nov 3, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>> There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
>> because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about 
>> and when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so 
>> even when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could 
>> see it shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer 
>> period of time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was 
>> a few degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I 
>> restarted the phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. 
>> Anyhow, I had iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done 
>> this so I assumed it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at 
>> the Apple Store ran the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple 
>> crashes and suggested that it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general 
>> maybe once a week as this helps to avoid certain issues which may arise when 
>> a phone has not been rebooted for a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded 
>> to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my phone shutting down persisted so I went 
>> back to the Apple Store, explained the issue to a different Apple Genious 
>> and he agreed that this sounded strange and since I have Apple Care Plus he 
>> replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty replacement and not an 
>> accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime except of course 
>> the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s been some time 
>> when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is not home so I 
>> had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice guy at the 
>> “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my apps on my 
>> laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to sync them 
>> than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not currently 
>> possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all the 
>> apps I wanted and then got the sync going.
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>>  
>> Hello Chip,
>>  
>> I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the 
>> crash log to Apple.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 
>> 10.1.1
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>>  
>> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
>> see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.c

RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Lucky for you, you must be the one in a million.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I have owned an iPhone since the 3GS in 2009, and have never had a crash. Can’t 
say the same for computers. LOL!
Andy

From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Chip,

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

Cheers,

Anne



On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange 
<lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards,
Feliciano
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson 
<annefromo...@g

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Andy Baracco]

I have owned an iPhone since the 3GS in 2009, and have never had a crash. Can’t 
say the same for computers. LOL!
Andy

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

Hello Chip,

 

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

  On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

   

  Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

   

  Chip

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
  Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

   

  There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

   

  Chip

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
  Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

   

  I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

  The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

   

  Cheers,

   

  Anne

   

   

   

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

 

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This 
type of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see 
the battery life difference.

Regards, 

Feliciano

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hello Feliciano,

   

  I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

   

  Cheers,

   

  Anne

   

   

   

On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

 

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
having.

Regards, 

Feliciano

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, A

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Feliciano Godoy]

At this point, you can delete all the third-party applications and see if the 
problem still persists. It would be a big sacrifice, but if you want to 
continue troubleshooting...


Regards,
Feliciano
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On Nov 3, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Chip,

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

Cheers,

Anne



On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange 
<lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards,
Feliciano
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson 
<annefromo...@gmail.com<mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i 

RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about and 
when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so even 
when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see it 
shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period of 
time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store ran 
the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested that 
it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this helps 
to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been rebooted for 
a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my 
phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple Store, explained the 
issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that this sounded strange and 
since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty 
replacement and not an accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime 
except of course the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s 
been some time when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is 
not home so I had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice 
guy at the “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my 
apps on my laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to 
sync them than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not 
currently possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all 
the apps I wanted and then got the sync going.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Chip,

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

Cheers,

Anne



On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange 
<lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards,
Feliciano
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson 
<annefromo...@gmail.com<mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

Regards,
Feliciano
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson 
<annefromo...@gmail.com<mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello f

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Chip,

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
> see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
>> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
>> about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and 
>> see the battery life difference.
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
>> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
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>> 
>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>>  
>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>>  
>>> Anne
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
>>>> having.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> Feliciano
>>>> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello fellow listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
>>>>> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>>>>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
>>>>> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>>>>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
>>>>> between 4 and 5% per hour.
>>>>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
>>>>> was no noticeable battery drain.
>>>>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
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RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Chip Orange]

Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1

 

Chip

 

 

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Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards, 

Feliciano 

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Feliciano,

 

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

Regards, 

Feliciano 

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Chip Orange]

There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to see 
if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

 

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.

The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards, 

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Feliciano,

 

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

I’ve been in correspondence with Apple Accessibility about this problem which 
occurred again on updating to iOS 10.1.1. However, this time, turning VoiceOver 
off didn’t fix the problem.
They asked me to send them the crash logs which I did, and they saw that 
VoiceOver had been crashing multiple times and suggested a clean install. I 
had, of course, already done this.
I wonder what it is about my particular phone or setup that is causing this 
problem.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 1 Nov 2016, at 08:52, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello Anne
> Thanks for letting me know. I was hoping not to have to do this. I hear there 
> is a further update IOS10.1.1. I think I’ll install that and see if it maybe 
> fixes the problem.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Anne Robertson <>
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> Hello Fanus,
>  
> I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to 
> fix the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>> On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com <>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello Anne
>> I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
>> problem is also VO related.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>>  
>>  
>> From: Anne Robertson <>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>>  
>> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have 
>> to download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
>> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
>> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
>> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com <>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This 
>>> type of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How 
>>> how about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two 
>>> and see the battery life difference.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
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>>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com <>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>>>  
>>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>>>  
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>  
>>>> Anne
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com <>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
>>>>> having.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Feliciano
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>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
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>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com <>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello fellow listers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a 
>>>>>> sudden excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>>>>>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
>>>>>> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>>>>>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
>>>>>> between 4 and 5% per hour.
>>>>>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
>>>>>> was no noticeable battery drain.
>>>>>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is dr

RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fanus,

I doubt it would and so far Anne’s post is the only one I saw on this list that 
there is a battery drain issue. I didn’t ask if she just updated or if she 
followed the few precautions I usually like to follow, primarily to close all 
apps from the app switcher and to at least reboot the device or, even better, 
do a Reset Network Settings. I know she feels Voiceover was to blame and maybe 
this is so, but often a Reset Network Settings may fix battery drain issues and 
it’s something to try before going through the trouble to reset your device and 
start from scratch. I usually only do this every couple of years when I get a 
new phone and I find it is at least 2-3 hours of work depending on how many 
apps you have which you need to open separately and sign in. These would be for 
email/online file storage accounts such as OneDrive and Dropbox, apps like 
Expedia, Hotels.com, financial/banking apps, home automation apps such as 
thermostats, video cameras, weather station and on and on. It is tedious 
especially if like me you use different and complicated passwords as well as 
two-factor authentication where possible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Anne
Thanks for letting me know. I was hoping not to have to do this. I hear there 
is a further update IOS10.1.1. I think I’ll install that and see if it maybe 
fixes the problem.
Regards
Fanus


From: Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Fanus,

I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to fix 
the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.

Cheers,

Anne



On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus 
<buys.fa...@gmail.com<mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Anne
I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
problem is also VO related.
Regards
Fanus


From: Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards,
Feliciano
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson 
<annefromo...@gmail.com<mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

Regards,
Feliciano
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson 
<annefromo...@gmail.com<mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sieghard,

No, I didn’t try that, but I turned VoiceOver off and the battery drain 
stopped. I turned it back on again and the battery drain started again, so it 
was VoiceOver causing the problem.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 31 Oct 2016, at 19:22, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Did you try a Reset Network Settings first, this often will fix battery 
> issues and it leaves all your apps and settings alone, all you have to do is 
> sign back in to your WiFi.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> Hello Fanus,
>  
> I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to 
> fix the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hello Anne
> I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
> problem is also VO related.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about 
> if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
> battery life difference.
> 
> Regards, 
> Feliciano
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> 
> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello Feliciano,
>  
> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.
> 
> Regards, 
> Feliciano
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> 
> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello fellow listers,
> 
> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps 
> in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
> and 5% per hour.
> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was 
> no noticeable battery drain.
> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
> 
> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Fanus]

Hello Anne
Thanks for letting me know. I was hoping not to have to do this. I hear there 
is a further update IOS10.1.1. I think I’ll install that and see if it maybe 
fixes the problem.
Regards
Fanus


From: Anne Robertson 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Fanus,

I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to fix 
the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.

Cheers,

Anne



  On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hello Anne
  I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
problem is also VO related.
  Regards
  Fanus


  From: Anne Robertson 
  Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

  I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
  The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

  Cheers,

  Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This 
type of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see 
the battery life difference.

Regards, 
Feliciano 
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Hello Feliciano,

  I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

  Cheers,

  Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
having.

Regards, 
Feliciano 
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


  Hello fellow listers,

  After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a 
sudden excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
  I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left 
two apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
  With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
between 4 and 5% per hour.
  I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, 
there was no noticeable battery drain.
  I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

  I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
  Cheers,

  Anne




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RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you try a Reset Network Settings first, this often will fix battery issues 
and it leaves all your apps and settings alone, all you have to do is sign back 
in to your WiFi.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

Hello Fanus,

I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to fix 
the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.

Cheers,

Anne



On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus 
<buys.fa...@gmail.com<mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Anne
I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
problem is also VO related.
Regards
Fanus


From: Anne Robertson
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards,
Feliciano
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson 
<annefromo...@gmail.com<mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

Regards,
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson 
<annefromo...@gmail.com<mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Fanus,

I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to fix 
the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Anne
> I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
> problem is also VO related.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Anne Robertson <>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com <>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
>> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
>> about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and 
>> see the battery life difference.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
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>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com <>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>>  
>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>>  
>>> Anne
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com <>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
>>>> having.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
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>>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com <>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello fellow listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
>>>>> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>>>>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
>>>>> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>>>>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
>>>>> between 4 and 5% per hour.
>>>>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
>>>>> was no noticeable battery drain.
>>>>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Fanus]

Hello Anne
I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
problem is also VO related.
Regards
Fanus


From: Anne Robertson 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



  On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

  Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about 
if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

  Regards, 
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  On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



  On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

  I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
having.

  Regards, 
  Feliciano 
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  On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a 
sudden excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
between 4 and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
was no noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

I did the Restore phone to factory settings and retrieved all my apps. My phone 
only dropped 5% of battery power in 8 hours.
Problem solved!

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:51, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy > > wrote:
>> 
>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
>> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
>> about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and 
>> see the battery life difference.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
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>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>> 
>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy > wrote:
 
 I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
 having.
 
 Regards,
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> Hello fellow listers,
> 
> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
> between 4 and 5% per hour.
> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
> was no noticeable battery drain.
> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
> 
> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> 
> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about 
> if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
> battery life difference.
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
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> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello Feliciano,
>> 
>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
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>>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hello fellow listers,
 
 After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
 excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
 I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
 apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
 With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 
 4 and 5% per hour.
 I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
 was no noticeable battery drain.
 I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
 
 I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Feliciano Godoy]

Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type of 
behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about if 
you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
battery life difference.

Regards,
Feliciano
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On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson 
> wrote:

Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy 
> wrote:

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

Regards,
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> wrote:

Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
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> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.
> 
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> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson  > wrote:
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>> Hello fellow listers,
>> 
>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
>> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps 
>> in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
>> and 5% per hour.
>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was 
>> no noticeable battery drain.
>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
>> 
>> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Feliciano Godoy]

I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.

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On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson 
> wrote:

Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I've reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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